“88% of the people in Ukraine want to have a deal done” - /pol/ (#512781967) [Archived: 1 hour ago]

Anonymous ID: TgZ6ueDRAustria
8/11/2025, 5:58:30 PM No.512781967
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Trump is cool. He also said Zelensky shouldn’t say they need a constitutional change for the landswap.

Love it, Zelensky completely BTFO.

Trump said he will just need 2 min about whether a deal can be made.
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Anonymous ID: H53asE5rCanada
8/11/2025, 6:01:18 PM No.512782168
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>>512781967 (OP)
Akshually it's 69% (heh) but the orange nigger has correctly assessed the mood within the Ukraine
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Anonymous ID: G8NAtJMPUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:01:25 PM No.512782179
They're going to resettle all Ukrainians in Alaska.
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Anonymous ID: G8NAtJMPUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:03:09 PM No.512782290
>>512782168
But what does it mean to negotiate? Fight until we win means push the invaders out of the country by force. If that's not possible you turn to negotiation, but that doesn't mean your demands have changed.
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Anonymous ID: rr8gurEFUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:04:23 PM No.512782377
If there was any chance at a deal, it would have been leaked to the press already. A meeting between Trump and Putin should be ceremonial and held in a warm, comfy environment where lots of photographers are waiting for the handshake and signing event.
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Anonymous ID: XliA4vkjUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:06:47 PM No.512782554
>>512781967 (OP)
>Putin will totally end the war the minute you surrender. Why aren't you surrendering, Ukraine?
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Anonymous ID: TgZ6ueDRAustria
8/11/2025, 6:07:11 PM No.512782579
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>>512782377
The deal is the land swap and an ultimatum to Zelensky to agree, otherwise no more weapons and Trump ends all sanctions on Russia and starts donating weapons to Russia.

Trump is fed up with Zelensky, just watch his speech just 20min ago.
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Anonymous ID: TgZ6ueDRAustria
8/11/2025, 6:09:28 PM No.512782747
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>>512782554
Surrender means all of Ukraine is Russian. Deal means pic related and peace.

Trump will put tremendous pressure on Zelensky to accept this deal. Europe has no chance at replacing the US as supporter of Ukraine.
Anonymous ID: G8NAtJMPUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:13:13 PM No.512783000
>>512782579
And I'm fed up with Trump, but he is here to stay.
Anonymous ID: I9zC25XOUkraine
8/11/2025, 6:15:53 PM No.512783201
>>512781967 (OP)
It's true. Polls in Ukraine are completely fake, and there are a lot of paid bots on the internet. Just overall complete censorship and repression against anyone speaking out. But Gallup actually came out recently and smashed ze clown's propaganda. Absolute majority want war to stop and are in favour of peaceful settlement.
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Anonymous ID: rr8gurEFUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:17:26 PM No.512783297
>>512782579
>Trump is fed up with Zelensky, just watch his speech just 20min ago
Trump and Zelensky are both actors representing people who want Ukraine's resources. There won't be any deal.
Anonymous ID: H53asE5rCanada
8/11/2025, 6:25:32 PM No.512783843
>>512782290
>Fight until we win means push the invaders out of the country by force. If that's not possible you turn to negotiation
Yes, if you are looking at things logically and actually have your country's national interests in mind, you would opt to negotiate, especially at this point in the war. Zelensky is no Mannerheim, however. His priorities appear to be his own survival, both political and physical, and both of these things depend on his ability to keep the money from his foreign backers flowing, which means he needs to keep the manpower flowing regardless of how catastrophic that is for Ukraine's demographic future, because the Europeans do not want the war to end. Furthermore, a large part of Ukraine's political institutions are held hostage by ideologically-motivated men who are well armed, trained, great in number, diametrically opposed to a negotiated settlement, and have a history of threatening presidents who don't do as they wish.
Then you have the Americans, who wish to extricate themselves from a war they've invested heavily into but are currently losing, telling you to negotiate a settlement or else.
It's not an enviable position. What do you do if you are Volodymyr Zelensky?
Anonymous ID: Vi82p2KIUnited States
8/11/2025, 6:26:22 PM No.512783899
>>512782179
Could be worse, could be jeets
Anonymous ID: b6CgFb2KRussian Federation
8/11/2025, 6:31:07 PM No.512784226
>>512783201
The majority of Russia wants the complete destruction of Ukraine and its population. Do us a favor, jump into the noose.
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Anonymous ID: 3j+a8FU2Russian Federation
8/11/2025, 7:02:41 PM No.512786570
>>512784226
There are no "people" on the ukraine, just dysgenic mognoloid mutts, subhuman orcs who need to be impaled by a virtuous white man for the greater good.
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Anonymous ID: aHtCjMIRUnited States
8/11/2025, 7:05:36 PM No.512786802
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>>512784226
>>512786570
stage 5
Anonymous ID: H53asE5rCanada
8/11/2025, 7:25:06 PM No.512788294
This thread has potential for discussion and it's unfair that it should die just so retards can make yet another racebait or demoralization thread