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Pushing up to Novoyavlenka puts the Russians within normal radio control FPV range of the second highway to Kramatorsk.

Pussy status?

T*lmud denounced
TND
TKD
THD
TMD
TTD
TGD
TJD

gentlemen
do we have a breakthrough?

>If the Ukr army does not finally and immediately send a *real* battalion (not a platoon-size “brigade”) to cut off and neutralize every Russian north of Nykanorivka, it can also give Putin Donetsk oblast for free.

>Seriously, how long can you close your eyes to not see this?!

Julianbros... I don't feel so good...

Z
THD
Talmud? Denounced
Thanks for the bread!

>>512789332
Cute, but very destructive.

And that's where they're going, to cut it off and flank the whole fuckin' rest of the Donbas.

>>512789400
So it seems.

>>512789407
My honest reaction to this map update.

>>512787843
Do ziggers really? Imagine posting an image that's over 2 years old that says "soon" and thinking you can call things correctly. Absolute clowns.

did you guys see it.

TRUMP just said ALASKA IS PART OF RUSSIA

he thinks he is going to russia on friday. putin should negotiate deal involving return of alaska

What actually happened here?

>>512789134 (OP)
Z
Talmud denounced
Blood and Soil

Everyone else feeling like things just accelerate?
Guys we live through history

>>512789493
A lot of lines aren't actually manned.

>>512789493
Maneuver warfare > attrition warframe
took russian gener--butchers 3 years to understand it

>>512789465
Best girl

*tips Fedorovka*

>>512789285
>>512789407
>>512789493
>snaking to cap victory points
Dishonorable.

>>512789285
Yes that's how distances work. When Russian army is 30km from Kiev they will be within range of radio controlled drones from Kiev. That's what happens when you get closer.
>Russia is just half a kilometer from Lvov, they're within small arms range! Total Ukrainian victory, they fell into our trap!

>>512789493
occam's razor suggests that RuZZians simply kept walking forward until they get shot at, which means that the porkssturm are slacking off

>>512789493
impondo zenkomo, The pig catcher.

>>512789589
it's easier to do big arrow maneuvers once most of the enemies are dead

>>512789589
>Maneuver warfare > attrition warframe
Are you retarded?

The obese cope master is coping dot dot dot ... .. . .... ... coping hard...... still coping..

>>512789411
>Cute, but very destructive.
Do you mean the beaver or human pussy?

>>512789456
this nigga thinks time is finite

>>512789493
THD is starting to payoff.

>>512789465
baza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrLvlS67CbQ
>>512789589
manuever warfare is hard when there's 24/7 instant drone reconnaisance of the entire front and backline. hyhyls ran out of reserves for counterattacks it seems

>>512789493

>>512789134 (OP)
>New hohol defensive line collapsed in less then a week
Zelensky is going to ask about the issue of frontlines and manpower

>>512789589
>Maneuver warfare > attrition warframe
Is there someone who honestly believe this in our current year?

>>512789628
what he means is that soon there will be fresh gore videos of your zigtard buddies comrade as they hurl men trying to take the city.

>>512789589
>faggot sees one side collapsing from attritional warfare
"IT IT HECKING MANEUVER WARFARE??? IS MUH MANEVER WARFARE FINNALY HAPPENING?? IS RUSSIA FINNALY IMPLETEMENTING SEEADDEADDMUEUEEADEEEEDDD???"

>>512789589
>just outmaneuver your opponent when you have parity in numbers and drones everywhere, bro
You dropped this, king.

>>512789493
Hohols have zero manpower and by extension are screwed if the Russians get a breakthrough

How can this breakthrough be developed? Not a big strategy guy so I don't know.

Zrada status?
https://x.com/ukraine_map/status/1954951198752039190

>>512789865
>How can this breakthrough be developed?
THD

>>512789865
>>512789877
WHERE ARE THE UKRAINIAN RESERVES
WHERE ARE THE 100K TERRITORIAL DEFENSE
WHERE ARE THE TRAINED CONSCRIPTED SOLDIERS

>>512789865
>How can this breakthrough be developed?
It depends on if it's a normal breakthrough or if the AFU just ran out of forces.

>>512789508
N

Russia lost btw

>>512789589
Worked out real swell for the piggies during Zaporozhye counter oink right…

>>512789508
>>512789989
I

>>512789865
You wait for them to redirect resources from porkroast to this thing then you take porkroast

Z

>>512789865
Were reaching kotel formations not seen before. The Ruzzians are... evolving

>>512789865
Logistics there are likely 100% shit, could be that now that the xyxyls have sent reserves to plug the gap there that it won't move anymore for a while
Just keep probing for more weakpoints AND MAKE THE FRONT CONTINUOUS FROM BELARUS TO THE DNIEPR ALREADY FOR FUCKS SAKE AAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>512789407
>Why wont hitler send in schweiners army already?
>>512789465
>2 demented presidents in a row
mutts got it rough
>>512789589
clown

>>512789407
>>512789493
Deepcope and petrencope paint this all when they normally refuse to paint any russian advance.
Meanwhile,pro russian mappers dont even paint it and have it all under hohol control.
The fuck is even going on? Hohols lying to create media hype for more aid or faking it so the amazing hohol counterhruk that killed 100000 russians can be posted later

>>512790031
G

>>512789493
There is literally a big underground water pipe from Donetsk airport to the Russian advance to Izyum.

>>512790031
G

>>512789865
If they can hold it, I think it just becomes part of the pokrovsk kotel lid. Holding a highway is always nice.

>>512789865
4-6 months rest and recovery, let the hohols build new trenches so any further maneuvers reverts to attrition grinding. In 6-9 months an new breakthrough will take place at a different part of the front and the cycle repeats

>>512788669
>India tends to tie trade to laxer immigration policies,
do you have any source for this? keep in mind that what India gains through remittances is nothing compared to what is lost by the reduction of the educated (and educatable) tax base. Not to mention that education is heavily subsidised in our government universities (annual fee for our top medical univ is <$100, for example) while many graduates from those univs are attracted overseas by lucrative job offers. So as a taxpayer I'd protest any move we're making to increase outmigration.

Reminder that BRICS just keeps on losing. Aren't you guys embarrassed to be associated with this group of losers? I know I would be.

>>512789589
>this fucking retard again

>>512789877
I think this advance is far wider than the mappers are giving it, there just aren't any live piggers around to tell anyone.

>>512789407
I think ultimately they'll contain it but it's another proof that Ukrainian "firebrigades" are stretched out too much which is only going to get worse.

Flesh is weakness

>>512790120
>>512790107
E

>>512789339
>Oh yeah memba how weeb union had marked Russian DRGs operating in center of Pokrovsk as Russian gains once. Not even mentioning absolute fuckup him and Suriyak had with Berdin that one time during Kursk offensyiv.
I think the worst example was Rybar cumming all over the Internet announcing the capture of Berdychi in like late 2023 when Avdeevka hadn't even been properly approached yet.

I don’t think I’ve seen this level of panic and despair on twitter before

>>512790095
>xyxyls have sent reserves
To sumy, so pigga could come here and post
>sumy status zisters?
For a few weeks. As always, they paid dearly for this.

>>512789929
Someone should inform him that Russia has a much larger population

>>512789201
Slovakia border not russian

>>512790269
post some xweets, please

>>512789493
Hopefully not a retarded move to make gainz at all costs to have something scary on the map to show the trusted partners or even worse, take Kramatorsk give half Zapo back

Alaska is a strategic place, considering the history behind it. During the American civil war, Russia supported the Union, and took the entire Atlantic fleet on a power tour all the way to New York to make the Brits seethe. Actually, Russian warships docked in San Fran too, there was a whole parade that went on that day. Lincoln and Alexander were bros, which is why the czar offered to sell Alaska for so cheap, so the American partners could invade the Brits from the north into Canada if they ever got uppity. Of course, the (((writers))) of history have slandered the deal into oblivion and called it a mistake, desperation, etc. The fact is however that Alaska is a monument to Russo-American collaboration and friendship.

>>512790269
>xitter squealing
Who cares. As always, wait ~14 days and then look for actual results on the map

By the way, where is that nato memeflag that was posting countdown until russia is finished?

>>512790451
War ends in 4 days though

>>512789134 (OP)
>>Kalergi cultists of West Europe in full melt down, century of European humiliation - https://archive.today/sq10a
Euros act like trained dogs, slavishly obeying America's every command then complain when they don't get a seat at the adults table? Lmao, trying having an independent thought if you want to be treated as an adult.

>>512790222
>I think ultimately they'll contain it
oh yeah but every containment will be even more and more of a fallback and this pattern will gradually keep increasing. Picrel, RF started to take more territory outside Sumy lol, the same place Ukrainians were crowing about retaking land in Andreevka.

Eglin trannies are coping hard in this thread and its very obvious even they don't believe their own words kek.

>>512790346
Will be fixed in the next one.
Thanks for pointing it out.

>>512790105
It' real, it's reported by civilians on the ground, and some informed russian accounts did mention it, it's just 1) one massive grey zone 2) poorly geolocalised due to good opsec on both side

>>512789989
Literally this is all you fucking do!?

ZELENSKY:
> "There is no sign that the Russians have received signals to prepare for a post-war situation. So far, there is none. On the contrary, they are moving their troops and forces in such a way as to start new offensive operations"

>>512789819
>IS RUSSIA FINNALY IMPLETEMENTING SEEADDEADDMUEUEEADEEEEDDD???"

>>512789589
>Maneuver warfare
is what Ukraine tried to do back in 2023

What's with BRICSniggers and not being capable of having a good navy kek?

>>512790444
Wait, are you saying the Tsar just gave Alaska away because he liked foreigners?

>>512789493

>>512789589
you will never be MW

>>512790246
R

>>512790690
The main rival of the Russians were the British, and Russian Alaska was barely settled and undefended. It was inevitable that the British would seize it and add it to Canada and the Russians would then have to respond militarily in Europe and causes a shitshow so they gave it to the US

>>512790594
Meanwhile it's very possible that morale collapse brought on by the news of the Trump-Putin meeting contributed to this breakthrough.

>>512789729
kek she looks so uncomfy

Big arrow time?

bestopever-qt is addicted to /chug/...why cant we stop winning, bros?
Z

>>512790528
yeah it's going to look like that for some time

I've estimated the war will end next year and what I'm seeing seems to line up with what we're seeing.

>>512790690
Trump should give Alaska to me personally so I can give it to Brittany

>>512790257
Weebunion and suriyak are extremely pro hohol.
Hohols claim X better instantly paint, russians geolocated better wait.
Suriyak making up hohol attacks and when nobody ever mentioned them or any proof was given he created a russian counterattack that totally undid it all.
Weebunionwar is even worse, his main sources are suriyak (mapper citing mapper), deepcope and radov who is extremely pro hohol with his opinions, snatching is all fake and made up need piss now hohols too strong.
Rybar is general is absolute shit, either goes full cope in terms of we totally did X but mostly goes full despair and overhypes any hohol advance, like back in kursk where rybar, romanov and yura sumy were pretendimg the whole oblast fell and kursk city was under siege.

This is what makes this supposed massive gain so surprising, since deepcope and petrencope refuse to paint any russian gain, it never happened and yet they both are now paining heavily for the russians on that breakthrough whilst the pro russian mappers like divgen and lostarmour havent even touched it

>>512790796
I really don't think giving away parts of the country away for free is something any ruler should do, what a cuck.

>>512790524
Sure, I'd be down. No gain in this war for me. Doubt it though, I think there's years more in this one.

In early June the Russians were already able to strike at these warehouses then deep behind the line near Ocheretyne west of Kramatorsk. June 6 and 8 compared
48.73670755695976, 37.12266809319133

>>512789929
did Russia really erase an entire generation of hohols

>>512790813
Too soon, executus.

>>512790813
It's big arrow time.

>>512791063
Who knew mobilizing everyone could lead to consequences

>>512790813
its a prong

>>512791063
Most likely Liru fren but this collapse is probably the worst one yet to be seen
It means manpower is not just dried up, but not even reliable
Pokrovsk’s southern flank flat lined because all the infantry were dead, now we see a sharp stab north which means there is no infantry to man those lines

>>512791063
Servant of the People ruined a whole generation of hohols

>>512790685
The Chinese are about to finish the 25y (5x5) naval plan. While the US were spending time in the middle east China went pretty much full navy. Next year sea trials and training will be done. US really needs to fix their naval strategy.

>>512791063
I think Millennials, Gen X'ers and Boomers are 3 generations, actually.

>>512791003
big mistake but at the time still had to fight tons of roaches who Brits supported. At the time a wasted frozen land so far away was an impossible task to mantain. But yes, never give up clay - this is how ukraine was created.

>>512791002
Thorkill65 (polish realistic-pro-ua OSINTer)was first to report on it on friday by carefuly looking at some civilian telegram chats in neighbouring towns. A day before Deepstate

>>512791251
>ruined
He just gave them what they wanted. With no refunds.

>New blow to the Ukraine! While former President Volodymyr Selenskyyyyi does everything possible to cede the East Ukrainian region of Donetsk to the Russians without a fight, the Russian army has come a brutal advance.
>North of the embattled city of Pokerovsk, Russian troops once again broken through the Ukraine's front over the weekend and 13 kilometres moved away within just two days, confirming both western military observers and Russian war bloggers. The renowned Ukraine activists from “DeepStateMap” reported on it.
>Russia's ground troops used the fact that the Ukraine simply leaves many kilometres of newly lifted barriers and widely ramified bunker networks due to the acute shortage of personnel at the front.

>Not because there are no Ukrainian soldiers – the country makes monthly about 20,000 men mobile. But because the Ukrainian army does not want to use the men on the front line to spare their lives.

>Instead, almost all new soldiers are placed in other units – for example, who are attacking the enemy with drones and artillery or are responsible for the elaborate logistics behind the front.
>As a result, Russian troops have been conquering (almost) empty bunkers and positions in the region for weeks, cross deserted trenches and climb unmanned anti-tank barriers. In addition, they are moving deeper and deeper into Ukrainian territory.

because the Ukrainian army does not want to use the men on the front line to spare their lives
>because the Ukrainian army does not want to use the men on the front line to spare their lives
because the Ukrainian army does not want to use the men on the front line to spare their lives
>because the Ukrainian army does not want to use the men on the front line to spare their lives

>>512790690
The Russian royals were odd in their ways, but commendable in their actions. Alexander was the czar that emancipated the serfs in Russia, while Lincoln was considered the president to do away with slavery in America, so the friendship was built on their shared thinking. Add to that the fact that the British were the mortal enemy of all continental Europeans, and the fact that the British empire supported the south in the American civil war, and you can understand why Russia would not want to just leave an undefended Alaska up for grabs.
>>512790796
Precisely so, but it wasn't exactly "given away", rather offered to America for a favourable price.
Interestingly, both Alexander the 2nd and Lincoln were assassinated...

next poster sucks greta tits till they become flat again

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>>512790172
Ceca is one in Singapore. same with H1-B to America, i am not saying i wouldn't do the same as India, but ya know again this isn't to say the Indian nationals are bad i am not here to offend you, Nor am i solely laying the blame at India's feet we have a terminal case.... of Liberals who are just retards and follow a non-functional religion.

When you are behind technologically, you tend to send Graduates abroad, Everyone has done it at some point, when someone is ahead doesn't matter in what having nationals sent off to study there/work there and then come home you are instantly ahead again. you gain expertise that would take way longer to cultivate on your own.

and i concur myself with.

>I'd protest any move we're making to increase Outmigration.

Lord knows Western Europe is completely draining of skilled labour and millionaires. it's abit of a hidden secret but as one of the few people that actually took a look at it, Germany for example is having emigration -Outmigration- numbers of 200k a year between 20-40 with a university degree -the hard degrees too like engineering etc- to be replaced with...... a guy on welfare who spent his adult life doing odd jobs -not saying odd jobs are bad but again-. It doesn't take a genius to figure out which one you would prefer for an economy.

Western countries are at the point where they can't do war anymore.

>>512791315
Just imagine if Putin gave Kursk, Belgorod and other oblasts around Ukraine to a third party, instead of fighting this war.

>>512791399
>so the friendship was built on their shared thinking.
So you're telling me the Tsar was a heart bleeding liberal like the Americans and that's why he gave away Russian lands to them?

>>512791002
>pretending the whole oblast fell
and others pretended nothing happened like in krinky + islands and thousands of lives were lost to keep everything in control because slow reaction. Better overreact and hit first than underreact and got your ass kicked by surprise.

>>512791316
Supposedly civilian telegram chats mentioned it, yeah could be true, but you know in this war there is so much BS going on regarding those chats that one never knows for sure.
Maybe its DRGs, maybe it isnt, still its odd that russians dont have any intel about it or they are keeping silent, nor has there been any geolocated reference from it

>>512791003
Where the fuck did you even got "for free" part from? Afaik pretty much the most of the railroad sthat we were building back in XIX century was funded by the money we got from Alaska.

Seems wagner is laying ambushes in central africa. webm related.

>Lots of pro-Russian comments claiming the Ukraine's army does not have enough manpower.
>And we know, this is nonsense. The Ukraine mathematically mobilizes 5 brigades per month. It is a purely political decision to not send them to the front line to avoid Russian-like casualties.

XAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXAXA

>>512791374
Kek so Ukraine DOESNT have a manpower shortage, they just don't want to defend the lines? Lol. I guess the Ukrainian rear must have like 3 million dudes hanging around playing cards.

>>512790796
>>512791399
Here we go again...

>>512789493
sabotage/recon (DRG) raid
relatively deep DRG raids have happened a handful of times this year (one to the northwest of toretsk, one deep in the center of pokrovsk, and now this one) and each time, pro-russian mappers ignore it while pro-ukraine mappers document it.

>>512791680
For the little I searched, it was sold for so little it may very well be give away for free. And I don't know what would have been worse, giving away Russia for free, or selling it away cheap.

>>512791618
AMK mapping gave an elaborate explanation of the breakthrough. He also claimed that the Russians were rumored to have captured the villages of Nove Shakhove, Novyi Donbas and Vilne, and entered the villages of Ivanivka, Zolotyi Kolodyaz, Rubizhne, Dorozhnje and Kucheriv Yar.

for all muttburgers again. just explode you fatniggerjewpedos. noone cares wtf is going on in your cunt...gtfo /lolitics/

>>512791756
one day nazuna will be mine

>>512791003
They didn't give it away though. It was a good will gesture, yes, but they did not do it for free.
>>512791315
>never give up clay - this is how ukraine was created.
Ukraine was created after the monarchy fell, that would be unfair towards them as they didn't really have a say in it's creation. Secondly, I don't think the monarchy would have seen Ukraine as a bad thing, in fact the czar only supported the growth of regional culture and identity. One of Ukraine's dearest poets was actually brought into the palace by the czar himself to read some poetry, which apparently he enjoyed. The poet's biggest mistake of course was offending the czar's wife, which is why he was put in a uniform and conscripted into the military. But I digress, it was the forced change in attitude towards Russia that killed Ukraine, not the creation of the physical country. I believe the two powers can still coexist, as soon as the people stop tolerating traitors and subversives.

>>512791756
so the ukraine has less soldier at the frontline and is enacting 14:1 ratio on the russians
man russians are shit at war

>>512791756
Ok so let's be clear. In Ropke's world, there's 500k Ukrainians mobilised in the last 2 years. Somehow 95% go to be PoGs even though one would expect PoGs survive longer so the ones taken in throughout the first year are still alive while frontline troops aren't.

There's no need to comment on this, just try to visualise this situation.

>>512791891
>They didn't give it away though.
>It was a good will gesture,
Calling it a "good will gesture" only makes him more a cuck, imagine giving away Russia to foreigners so they like you more.

>>512791756
kek

>>512791756
>we have so much manpower, there is a bajilion brigades simply lying around
>we just don't want to use them

>>512791756
Oh boy we're getting close to Baghdad Bob levels of delusion. Where are all these Ukrainian soldiers? It truely is a mystery.

>>512791002
weeb union is (openly?) an aggregator. He does zero geolocation of his own.

>>512791811
>it was sold for so little it may very well be give away for free
Again, don't exactly know where the fuck you were researching from but from what I found a few years back that pretty much most of the railroad that's not that one Moscow-St. Petersburg line, was built using the money from Alaska deal.

>>512791680
>>512791891
You think that selling Florida, Oregon and New France wasn't cheap too? Genuinely curious.

>>512791489
>So you're telling me the Tsar was a heart bleeding liberal
He was one of the more liberal czars, yes. Bleeding heart, not really, I mean not until he was assassinated that is :) But even then, it was more like entrusting a colony to a worthy power rather than giving it to the highest bidder. I'm sure the Brits would've killed for Alaska.

>>512791756
Ukraine is a humanitarian country!
They value human life the most!

SEND MORE HOHOLS!!!

>>512791002
also suriyak is not really pro-russian but he certainly isn’t pro-ukraine
he’s literally an assadist

>>512791063
has he released the dlc / addon yet?

>>512791511
Krynky was a massive hohol failure, anyone saying that russia took large casualties there is basically copying hohol propaganda.
There wasnt really much said about krynky because the town often got retaken and then russians fell back since staying in arty and drone range was stupid and then hohols sending in the next wave in via botes to land again until they decided to just quit and claim mission success after their botes filled with troops kept sinking.
Pretty sure even now russians arent physically staying there even now.

>>512792082
My hyhyls are too strong for you, traveller.

>>512792034
It was sold for $7.2 million USD in 1867, to begin with one should not put a price in Russian lands, but if you're going to sell away, at least he could have asked for more.

>>512792045
>But even then, it was more like entrusting a colony to a worthy power
So the cuck is based because he help the good guys, the US, raise in power? really?

>>512791756
They can hardly equip the volksturms they have now. But none of this fucking matters because if Russians needed more men to face ropke's epic 10 million man army, they would acquire them. He will never admit that this war was a suicide mission from the start

>>512791180
the wunderwaffe 2 days training stormtrooper in action

>>512791249
im shocked. i don't even know how else to put it.

>>512791251
>>512791292
THD is fucking real.

MOVE Z

>>512791756
>complains about empty trenches
>then says ukranny has enough manpower actually
uhhhh?
so wheres manpower?
can we see it?

>>512791811
Russia had no way of holding onto Alaska in case of war. Selling it was a way to secure good relations with the United States, who Alexander II viewed as an useful counterbalance against the British at the time. The money was used to pay for the emancipation of serfdom and the construction of railroads. The alternative was for the British to eventually invade and seize it with no monetary compensation at all, retard

>>512789493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ycJbhMdQE

I have to say that I'm really impressed how Ukraine managed to hold on Russian army for so long. War will go on.

>>512791901
27:1, 60+ tranny

>>512789900
get on it lads

>>512792204
>$7.2 million USD in 1867
Hy @gruk how much 7.2M in 1867 USD would be to 2025 dollars?

>>512792324
>Selling it was a way to secure good relations with the United States
I don't get why you keep saying that making Americans like you more is somehow a justification, if anything it makes the Tsar even more of a cuck.

>The alternative was for the British to eventually invade and seize it with no monetary compensation at all, retard
This sounds like a cope, the Russia military was more than capable of holding against some British colonial forces.

>>512792048
just not the hyhyl live

d-dddid anything happen today?

>>512789877
>>512789865
low manpower
>>512791756
geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg this is the exact kind of cope /uhg/ would make a year ago, things must be getting really bad.

>512792355
I never thought I'd witness
>w-we didn't want to win anyway
in person.

>>512792324
Yeah, I guess that the liberal retard should have sold the Far East to Japan because they would have taken it anyway, right? The coping mechanisms to defend a bad leader, dear Lord.

>>512790444
What the fuck did I read?
Alaska in those days was a desolate Arctic wasteland.
It is difficult for an ordinary person to survive there, and keeping an army capable of advancing through thousands of kilometers of deserted forests is generally suicide.
For Nikolai, it was just another useless piece of land.
During the reign of Alexander 2, it was necessary to find money for the modernization of Russia and the construction of railways, so when we were offered 7 million dollars for the icy desert, the government immediately agreed, and the railway was built with this money.
It was only later that huge deposits of gold and oil were discovered in Alaska.

>>512792355
nah they dont have more human waves to throw against arty and drones
sneedsky done goofed

>>512792495
I got diarrhea from Italian food

THIS IS BAD

>>512792409
>7.2M in 1867 USD would be to 2025 dollars
158 bi USD, what a tiny amount for Russian lands. If Putin was as much of a cuck as the Tsar, he could sell all of Siberia for a similar price and not even reach 1 tri USD.

>>512792519
I guess it stop being a cuck selling away the country for pocket money because the cuck is the "trad and based Tsar" and because he sold Russia to the good guys in the US.

>>512792541
oh god. not the best day to like women or quit alcohol

>>512792551
>This is bad
Hahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahaha

>>512792154
gefestwar and osetin20 said it, and Belly from Wagner who was there on islands to help mod SF thrown without much support. All of them, hohol propaganda I guess. And about Kursk, I do not follow Yuri whatever and barely rybar but a number of channels said Sudja is taken and it was true while the regulars were coping of legendary battles on non-existent structures. This is why the people responsible for them structures are in jail now. Killing truth to your own is the first step to losing wars hohols were stopped 40km from Kurchatov.

Same with this breakthrough news which seems to stem from hohol side (that bild fag and his network) without much info from Russian TG.

>>512792551
why its bad?

>>512791756
>No food?
>Just go to the store and buy more!
>No industry?
>Just make more stuff!
>No personnel?
>Just grab them off the street!
The human mind on GDP.

>>512790734
-ETTE

>>512792472
ah yes, the russian empire in the mid 19th century, the great naval power able to stand up against the royal navy
alaska was useless to the empire. the furs, the very reason the russians came there in the first place had dried up and gold hadn't been discovered yet.
the tsar had just lost the crimean war, of course he'd value counterbalancing the british you monkey retard

>>512792355
>War will go on
I suport this jewish secondary flag in his opinion.

>Transatlantic unity, support to Ukraine and pressure on Russia is how we will end this war and prevent future Russian aggression in Europe - Kallas
Based eurorats enacting thd on their own.

>>512792631
No one gets a more devout army of copelords than Niki. Hello!

>>512792721
yep...potential chad

>>512792683
uhhhm you are saying you are starving? here I have a piece of paper which says we produced billion burgers and shelves are full. thought lack!

>>512792700
Ah, so the parts of Russia the Tsar sold to foreigners were "useless", now it all become based. And somehow there are people how dare to call Putin a cuck.

>>512792555
You seem to imagine those particular Russian lands to be inhabited like a modem day Kuban or Urals of even Far East are. And no, you can't, in fact, defend a region populated 1500 against the British Empire in mid XIX century.

>>512792700
Yes, nigger, I'm sure that the British would have absolutely committed a force to seize Alaska. In reality, they spent the next 50 years concentrated on containing Germany's ambition to project colonial power. But whatever helps you sleep at night, retard.

>Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi @CinC_AFU listed mobilization measures as among the key objectives to defend the country against russia, especially as Moscow accumulates more force.

>Syrskyi said on Aug. 5 that russia is mobilizing more troops than it is losing, growing its forces by 9,000 a month despite losing over 33,000 troops in July alone.

>While Ukraine has not released its casualty rate, military experts say the current mobilization pace is not filling the gaps left behind by battlefield losses — leading to situations where soldiers have to be sometimes deployed a month or two to the "zero" line without the possibility of rotation.

isch over

>>512792815
when you are at the head you have to make though decisions
who were really unparalleled cucks and outright enemies of russian people were comies

>>512792830
>a region populated 1500
Okay make that 2000, I guess. Wasn't reading to careful.

>>512792880
whos left?

>>512792723
I read it as "Transatanic" at first

>>512792815
what would russia continue to gain from holding alaska, genuinely? continue to save the souls of some poor natives? how does holding alaska benefit russia?
>>512792872
if only alexander had the benefit of hindsight you do

>>512792723
>future Russian aggression in Europe
Uhh. Does our government have war goals in europe? I once saw some foreign map claiming ireland is under threat of russian invasion or something.
What even is the narrative these days?

>>512792880
also its okay julian said >>512791756 they are mobilizing enough, sneedsky knows better

>>512792666
Logistics.

>>512792830


>>512792885
>who were really unparalleled cucks and outright enemies of russian people were comies
Maybe if they had sold off all Siberia to the US they'd not be cucks like the Tsar, right? Imagine all the palaces they could built with the cash from selling Russia away?

>>512792948
Henlo Katyushafren!

>>512791374
>While former President Volodymyr Selenskyyyyi does everything possible to cede the East Ukrainian region of Donetsk to the Russians without a fight
Did he have a anurysm? Ukranda has been fighting in Donetsk since 2014, how is Zelaboba trying to give it away?
Also since when did Jihadi Julian start typing "former pressident"?

>>512792880
>Of the roughly 30,000 that Kyiv says it is mobilizing, about half of them are the soldiers who are returning from AWOL, or absent without leave, according to a Ukrainian official familiar with the matter.

>The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the topic's sensitivity, said that the remaining 40 percent are from the enlistment offices, while the remaining 10 percent came from foreign volunteer recruitment and the new one-year voluntary military contract for 18-24-year-olds.

>Zelensky's last major announcement regarding mobilization was the introduction of the "special contracts" for young draft-exempt Ukrainians, trying to lure them with high financial and social benefits.

>>512792970
we obviously need to strike hard with nukes against britain at least
however state are cucks

>>512792880
They need to think about evacuation of Slavyansk. Just look at the defenses they built this year. They knew this was a possibility.

>>512792723
they'll be ignored they're vassals, and completely bough into the propaganda. vassals don't act they just wag their tails for their masters.

>>512792963
>what would russia continue to gain from holding alaska, genuinely? continue to save the souls of some poor natives? how does holding alaska benefit russia?
The same can be extended for Siberia, what Russia has to gain from holding Eastern Siberia today, instead of selling it to the US? There are not many Russians living there anyway

>>512792986
for whom?

>>512792993
they gave entire eastern europe away in exchange for verbal promises, I think it has more values than siberia

>>512793104
Ukraine.

>>512793014
>start typing "former pressident"
That's done by me.

>>512793064
evacuation? what that word means?

>>512792998
EbningZ Nazunafren!!!

maps make me feel comfy..wartrucks..cunny...dead hohols

>>512791756
What is this nigger on about?
Could he repeat the nickname, among AFU soldiers, of the general in charge of the Ukrandan army?

>>512793140
everything is bad for ukranny

>>512793139
I guess if we pretend the collapse of the USSR is the same of selling Russia away for some quick cash is the same thing, then we can pretend the Tsar was not the greatest cuck.

But why would we play games of pretend?

>>512792963
I guess you need a 20/20 hinsight to calculate that the British would never commit a force to seize a frozen wasteland standing the farthest away from their ports. Truly amazing the lengths that people can go in order to defend Enlightened monarchs.

Okay, I thought that macaco is one of them hyper-cheerleaders, trying to be more Russian than actual Russians but it seems it's just another well poisoner. Move along, I guess.

>>512793014
>Ukranda
More like Ukradena, lmao gottem

>>512792941
>whos left?
the women and children

>>512793062
>nukes against britain
What did they do? Aren't they just depressed on their island, stuck with muslims, indians and their own evil government?

>>512793092
What point are you even trying to make
You've already got your conclusion and are just making shit up to fit your narrative

>>512793244
If he also sold Eastern Siberia away for even more pocket money, then we'd be seeing people explaining how Russia would have lost it anyway.

>>512793233
theres no need to pretend they gave that shit away for free
they also created ukranny and belarus balkanizing russia itself
putin called it greatest tragedy of russian people because they were divided and left in foreign states which hate them such as finland and baltics and even east germany
shut the fuck up you know nothing

>>512789407
Blocked, terror fiend

>>512793299
I'm just a bit shocked about how much a cuck Alexander was, and how people can still try to suck his cock.

>>512793295
all terror operations of this war, including bucha

>>512791756
So you have reinforcements but don't send them and allow your army to constantly lose and retreat?

What level of copium is this?

a fake brazilian flag? no man talks that much. somethings wrong

>>512793330
True. Why would Russia need to expand East and project power? If it's so bad, why did they fund Vitus Bering?

>>512793292
how's not jumping it's katzaphi generation, now 100 kilos more

>>512793336
It's ok, if you really want I can pretend the guy who sold Russian land for pennies, during peacetime, to earn goodwill with the US is not a cuck, then I can play pretend with you.

But I'll never understand how can someone have some respect for such a cuck.,

>>512793064
stop doomering! trust the plan

>>512793450
Maybe the real problem was that the Tsar didn't sell enough of Russia away, imagine trading all that useless land beyond the Urals and getting a couple more railroads.

>>512793330
Eastern Siberia was strategically important to get to the Asian sphere and could be protected.
Alaska would only require the British to blockade it and it would be lost, at least they got something out of it

>>512793180
I wonder if knows that he is the next fall guy.

>>512793441
They are just preparing for the new mega-angriff, that will obliterate puccians and push them back straight to vladivostok.

>>512793530
Oh thank God, I was worried that losing Pokrovsk might be bad!

>>512792880
Pretty accurate data on enemy loses when you're on the run for 2 years now except some botched invasion north. Nice to have Russian relatives in their MOD.

>>512793092
you're arguing in bad faith but i'll answer anyway
>makes russia a pacific and east asian power
>total control of northern eurasia
>total control of the okhotsk sea
>sakhalin oil
>kolyma gold mining
>naval bases and ports of petropavlovsk and vladivostok
>actually a fucking part of the eurasian landmass unlike alaska
>not dependent on naval logistics
>buffer for central siberia
now, can you answer for me now how alaska would be useful for the russian empire?

>>512791063
>>512791251
>>512791320
>>512791756
I wonder if people living in USA and Europe will ever look at the prosecution numbers for desertion, body exchange ratios, soldiers reported as missing, countless busification videos and realize just how devastating this conflict was to the Ukrainian population

Why is a braxillian so obsessed with fucking alaska to make 30pbtid+ arguing about a centuries old historical event? Who cares? You aren't changing history.

>>512793636
makima comes to mind when i hear vladivostok...somehow i relate

CAULDRON

>>512793604
It seems whatever land the Tsar sold away was necessarily "useless and would be lost anyway" and whatever land he didn't sell away was "strategically important and defendable".

>>512793684
Here, I'll say Russian lands are useless and must be sold to Americans for cheap, are you happy now?

>>512792948
henlo fren!
hoholinas are the best for raping!
Katyusha is the best for loving and spoiling!

>>512791063
do you have liru with death to israel poster

>>512793640
you guys need to learn from history lesions.... you gotta loose the land to win it back agian later

>>512793735
benis....attack the benis. gg

>>512793530
There are no more defensive constructions north of the T0510 highway. The Ukrainians could try and make a stand at the Samara River but the Russians will likely go around to the East.

Time to fallback to Dnepr, only chance to hold

>>512792511
>would make a year ago
*would make fun of

There is allot of humour to be found looking at the EU tho, the Americans injected this retarded dead end ideology of Liberalism into the European Union and then turned around and said no longer interested. thanks for destabilizing yourselves it is easy to abuse you now.

>>512793782
no but I have this crimea-kuns gem

>>512793166
Oh I thought he was on the "repace zeleboba" bandvagon, but he's staying out of that then I assume.

>>512793735
roachtrap

>>512792391
kek youre a dumb mongo

>>512793796
VGH.. the inevitable hohol backhand blow... i kneel

>>512793796
>it would be mexico today
Well.......

>>512793796
>the land doesn't matter, it's attrition warfare
Can they make up their minds? The land was all that mattered until they started losing it faster

DOOM

>>512793882
elaborate. where is he wrong?

>>512793735
not so fast

>>512793604
Blockading wouldn't even require to blockade 'Alaska' as is, just blockading the city of Sitka would be enough to completely paralyze pretty much all of "Russian America".

>>512793855
this is quite horrbile dont post agauin

>>512793934
pussy status?

>>512793975
FVLL

>ukraine is winning the war
>14:1 is real
>if you disagree you're seething
>also israel is our greatest ally
Sensible chuckle

>>512793747
>One is defendable with land logistics
>One is undefendable against a maritime superpower
You really can't tell these two apart?

>>512793960
mobilize yourself, princess

>>512793774
Henlooo Kazakhbro!!!
Katyusha is made for headpats
While hoholinas are made for BBQ

>>512793944
M-masaka!..

>>512793016
Right, people whos families starve because they can't find work while AWOL and are forced to go back to the army to feed their children.
Makes sense desu.
I would assume at least 30% of the TCC recruitments also are AWOLs that are bussified a secound time.

>>512794070
and shaking! hoholinas are for shaking!

>>512793951
>>512794018
And if UK blockaded Russian lands, Russia would be forced by international law to not take any action against the UK.

Btw, do you know if the Tsar also sold away Russian people living there in the deal?

>>512793582
Alexander II and Nicholas II undid much of good moves done by each predecessor. Yet, they get away with their bad deeds because Niki has an army of fans, who will also defend "the liberator" and his terrible policies. Caving to liberals never works.

>>512793944
H- HE'S FAST!!

>>512793704
They really don't care. And also admitting that hohols got genocided would mean that everything that enlightened wect has done before and during this conflict was not only pointless, but also detrimental for ukranny's existence as a nation.

>>512794130
To be fair, I'm not even trying to argue, I'm just shocked a country leader sold away part of the country and people living there, and people still jump to say how based it was because he also got American goodwill in the package.

>>512790079
>Were reaching kotel formations not seen before.
next lid in Barvienkove

>>512793064
Slaviansk/Krematorsk both lie in valleys dominated by a ridge going north from Chasiv Yar if I remember correctly?
They were heavily fortified early on in the ATO, but would even so be hard to hold for a long period of time once Russia starts sieging them.

>>512794080
people need to resist more and hijack the van and espace

Seaking of Far East Russia, did you know that a large portion of it is known as Zelenyy Klyn and belongs to Ukraine? It was taken over during the Tsars and a Ukrainian independence movement there was viciously put down by the Tsar.
I think a result of this war and as reparation, Zelenyy Klyn should return to Ukraine.

>>512794118
>Btw, do you know if the Tsar also sold away Russian people living there in the deal?
No I don't know it because he didn't. There's pretty much no Russia population there now (unlike Eastern Orthodox Christians) exactly because of it. Which tells me you just inventing shit on the spot now.

>>512794130
>>512794213
It's like the Chines Empire being forced to sell Hong Kong after a military defeat, he just sold it, no war whatsoever.

>>512794051
i will kill all the ziggers
like eren yeager

>>512793530
>better lines
They began construction in August 2024 stretching the entire front, only some areas were focused on.They've already been breached and the Russians have gone 8-10km deeper northwards today alone. They're entering wide open operation space.

The first line that is now almost completely captured was built between 2014-2024 with NATO money. A few hastily built wooden emplacements are not going to stop the Russians now.

>it's a plan
Non stop retreating and endless daily defeats is a plan?
l o l

Di someone have blocked terror friend picture from jihadi Julian?

>Novovodyane
T-0514 highway is cut.

baking
>baking
baking
>baking

>>512794108
They are shaking pretty hard

>>512793704
That would require them to come to terms with the price of their war cheerleading. Probably not would be my guess.

>>512793782
I've got this

>>512794286
>No I don't know it because he didn't. There's pretty much no Russia population there now (unlike Eastern Orthodox Christians) exactly because of it.
If there's not pretty much no Russian population it means there's some Russian population, I'm just curious of what happened to the Russians that Tsar sold away, did they become American citizens?

>>512793934
Will it fall before Pokrovsk?

uma delicia

>>512794213
You can always count on based and trad right-wingers to defend the actions of liberal rulers. Maybe they'll defend the policy of letting jews leave the Pale of Settlement when they got a school diploma too, as a gesture of goodwill, because the jews would wreak havoc anyway...

>>512794213
France sold the american colonies as did the spanish so i don't understand why you're so hyperfocused on what russia sold to america.

>>512794243
Izyum is the best road out but the gains at Lyman will threaten that road. Alternative is shitty country roads Lozova that will deteriorate in winter with all the traffic.

>>512794270
Only after Tokyo is returned to Serbia

>>512794270
yes, novorussians had an advantage in emigration to the far east since they could easily emigrate from the port of odessa, true.

>>512794290
>like eren yeager
Why did you have to remind me about this disaster.

>>512789707
>..
>.,...
>...
Can someone decipher his fucking morse already

>>512794262
Based. Free EU funded van and buddies to hang out with. These guys can go camping.

>>512794286
He did.

>>512793828
Indeed.

There were reports back in early June that Kiev is seriously considering a "doomsday scenario", that is a full scale retreat to the river cities and a 50km defensive perimeter around their eastern halves should the Russians do a full scale breakout into Dnipropetrovsk oblast as the terrain of Ukraine beyond Donbass heavily favours the attacker not the defender, this perimeter around the river cities would gradually withdraw to the west bank of the Dnieper essentially handing over the vast majority of east Ukraine to Russia without a fight while massively increasing their own troop and equipment density in each location, reducing supply line strain and keeping the frontline shorter while retaining full defensive positions inside major cities and the entrenchments that have been built around them since 2022.

The intent would be to do the opposite to the Russians, stretching them much further at a rapid pace, reducing troop density and stretching the Russian lines while rear guard teams do hit and runs on convoys,trains and logistics.

To me that sounds like the smartest thing they could do at this point.

I think the loss of Pokrovsk will be the trigger for this.

>>512794388
Sounds like it is already a ghost town with no government. Looting reported yesterday. Question is how many Russians will be moved in to hold it.

>>512794420
It's weird, leaders sometimes do mistakes and terrible actions, even good leaders. But this is a whole new level of cuckery.

>>512794487
France selling Louisiana was just as bad, the real difference is that I don't see a bunch of people coming out of the woods to preach me how France doing it was based and good.

>>512794382
>If there's not pretty much no Russian population it means there's some Russian population
Yeah 4000 people of Russian ancestry out of 700 000 population today could be explained by Tsar "selling out Russian population along with the land" rather than a number of people just refusing to leave their communities and go back on the Tsar's orders. Fucking head canon troonie.

FRESH BREAD

>>512794530

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>>512794632
Call me a tranny enough times, and you'll be spared of the "what happened to the people the Tsar sold away" question, it's a very powerful trick.

>>512792524
Exactly what I said. Do you see it as a mistake or as a necessity, though?
>>512793330
Alaska and Siberia are separated by a strait, one that would have been devastating in the case of a British attack. Just to remind you that tensions between the British empire and the Russian empire at that time were very high, considering Crimea and now the American civil war. Siberia is different in the fact that Russia, without it, would be surrounded by the eastern powers on one side, and the European powers on the other, with the Ottomans to the south. Holding on to Alaska was not advantageous at all, hence why it was sold. Speculating upon such ridiculous ideas is frankly stupid.

>>512794632
I can't believe that even you are going to cope about this terrible policy decision.

>>512794617
The level of arrogance is of the charts, do you really think he just gave it away because of some momentary feeling? These things get discusses with advisors and are not done willy nilly.
Please tell me what you would do to protect Alaska

>>512794765
I guess anyone not pretending that selling Russia away is the most based thing ever is arrogance, people are weird.

>>512794765
He and his aides were liberals. It was a badly calculated move. Alaska alone is nearly 30% of the total land area of the continental US. Nigga, please.

>>512794130
List some of those good moves that Nicholas or Alexander undid, please. Otherwise you're just fanning air. Emancipation and reform were the best things to happen to imperial Russia, considering the economic growth potential they unlocked.

>>512794183
Its borderline primal evil actually.
Sending millions to their deaths for muh 'rules based order' that none of them are old enough to remember or understand the post WW2 context of it.
Absolute fucking LARPers pretending to be rules and law givers but couldn't write rational rules for running a pub.

>>512794822
You're projecting nobody is saying that
It's a loss, most just view it as a loss were they at least got something in return for

>>512794927
>It's a loss, most just view it as a loss were they at least got something in return for
This is the first time in my life I ever see someone praising the decision of selling away a country. Maybe this being someone's else country makes the position more palatable for you.

>>512794890
>He and his aides were liberals
And?

>>512795030
>his is the first time in my life I ever see someone praising the decision of selling away a country
I literally didn't say that your delusional

>>512794915
Emancipation of the serfs does not cancel out the string of bad moves that excessive liberalization brought. Free movement to jews, excess of power ceded to the Duma. Both their predecessors were known for not being liberals and their policymaking were just fine in containing liberals.

>>512795122
Then at least have the decency of saying selling away Russia was not a good thing that Alexander did.

>>512795052
That really sums it up how you guys are basically fine being mindless drones of a whig ideology that brought terrible consequences to the world, especially to Russia.