Thread 512793454

>these 2 amino acids will spontaneously combine and then turn into humans
This is what atheist cucks actually believe. It’s the most retarded thing ever thought of.
Christ is King

>>512793454 (OP)
God created life.

>spontaneous
>posts the 200 million year cycle

>>512793721
More like 4 billion years ago.

>>512793454 (OP)
It's possible life was designed

It's also possible it wasn't

There's no proof of an intelligent designer so the most logical assumption is it arose randomly

>>512793806
thats when the earth fell into orbit retard

gravity is non neutral and sustained by the will of god so i wouldnt call any of this spontaneous, not anymore than the formation of elemetary particles

>>512793861
>no proof life isn’t an intelligent desig…
ACK!

>>512794284
Viruses evolve new structures all the time and we can see as much in the lab

>>512793454 (OP)
Crust is not kang of anything that's a completely meaningless statement.

Darwinists are wrong. Evolution happens extremely fast (proven by rapid speciation after every single mass extinction event) and is biased by mental/emotional states of creatures. Genetic damage from radiation always results in fuck ups and the body trying to repair the damaged dna and keep itself going. Mutation is largely driven not by random chance but by the desires and fears of the organism. Neolamarckian evolution like described by William Walker Atkinson is absolutely true, go read The Arcane Teachings it explains how it works. Foreskin cultists from the desert can fuck off.

>>512793685
God is nature, a system, a set of laws, and a cosmic mind that allowed for the creation of life through inevitable mental processes.

>>512793861
That is not logical at all.

It's neither designed nor random.

It's instead a self-organizing principle that refines itself just like AI does.

>>512794029
Particles are not really particles they are fields. Everything is made up of fields of consciousness.

>>512793454 (OP)
How old is this image? Over ten years ago we determined that the Archaea were younger than bacteria. I know this is only tangential to the topic. Christ is indeed King, I hate the anti-Christ and denounce the Talmud.
>>512793861

There is nothing logical or rational about this. It’s just another form of religion with a little cope on top of it. At the end of the day, you’ve gotta take it on faith that macro evolution is real despite never having been observed. You’ve also got to deny thermodynamics and systems reaching their minimum energy state.

Attributing creation to a creator is actually more rational than what you’re proposing. Based on what we do actually know.

>>512793721
>>512794934
Only basedjak Jew loving faggots believe in abiogenesis

>>512795401
Evolution is real
Abiogenesis is not real

I believe in evolution for example since I believe race is real as a catholic. I also believe in many other attributes that get passed down genetically that matter.

However I don’t believe retarded random chemicals somehow created life that would be just muh random chemicals that have certain whatever muh properties that’s low iq

it's not that we "believe" in it the same way you believe old jewish superstitions, we believe it's the most likely origin story given that we don't believe in the supernatural

>>512795851
Reddít is the other way buddy

>>512795550
SNEED

>>512795916
t.

>>512794284
1. Bacteriophages aren't 'alive'
2. Wow thing that makes copies of itself gets good at its job over 3 billion years. Must've been his noodly appendage.

>>512796210
>.t

>>512796288
Pretty sure it’s more like we’re not aware if Bacteriophages qualify as life or not since they don’t meet the 7 requirements. However they may be an exception to the rule

>>512793454 (OP)
How do random chemicals magically become alive?

>>512793454 (OP)
>I don't understand it therefor magical jews

>>512796695
I'm more of a demon haunted world fan myself. But you do christkang.

>>512797485
What a faggot. Bro said “demon haunted world fan” LMFAO

>>512797369
So true fedora tipper random chemicals gave life to the first living cell in some sea so that means we’re random chemicals too bro. Brooooo we’re just random chemicals that come from other chemicals broooooo the ancient soup broooo

>>512793454 (OP)
>This is what atheist cucks actually believe.
This has nothing to do with atheism

>>512793861
>the most logical assumption is it arose randomly
No it isn't. It's actually the least logical. Just raking human beings in the equation, the most logical assumption with scant proof one way or the other would be that there was a god or we were intelligently designed. Why else would people be but none other? Why is our recorded history so short? Why do we seem like we are the only creatures who don't fill a niche in nature? Why can we create our realities from consciousness to metropolises to advanced technology but (as far as we can see in the entire universe) nothing else seems to be like us? The most logical conclusion is that we are different from the rest of everything else. We are imbued with complex thought and abstract reasoning. We record our history and build upon it. Of course we would be made purposely. Everything else may have sprung from nothing or are lesser beings and forms, but we certainly are not that.

>>512793454 (OP)
>life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0
>lol

>>512797485
Gnosticism is so gay

>>512800644
Total spaghetti. There is no argument here.

>>512797953
You’re conflating the message and the messenger.

>>512793454 (OP)
>2 amino acids will spontaneously combine and then turn into humans
20
20 amino acids

God isn't an answer to anything because then you have to answer where God came from.

Ok maybe an alien designed simple cells, how did that alien came to be? It's an empty masturbatory answer. Thus the only logical process is to find a mechanistic explanation

>>512793721
that number is a belief, you're a hypocrite

>>512797953
How about you put some chemicals into your body? What's the worst that could happen?

>>512801264
Belief has no evidence. There is evidence for that number in the fossil record and the geological record. Multiple independent sources collaborate that period.

>>512801041
Well it's not spaghetti, I wrote it in reply, and yes it is an argument. And you provided no counter-argument. I accept your concession and am glad you have decided to accept Jesus into your heart. Have a blessed day!

>>512801264
Pretty damn conservative belief - although I wouldn't even call it that; because the number actually does not have to be correct unlike OPs magic theory.
200 million? 500? 2 billion? It matters shit in that it wasn't spontaneous, nigger.

>>512793454 (OP)
>Seethes about atheists
>Topic isn't about atheism

>>512801409
you cant date age of rocks when there are cases of rapid fossilization over just a few weeks, picrel is a fossilized human foot in a cowboy boot
and a global flood would also explain the above and fossils existing in layers, you're biased because you cant take the possibility of your belief in the (((textbooks))), pretty sad if you ask me

>>512801605
if you were intellectually honest, you'd realize that you cant know for a fact if it was spontaneous or not, that's why it's a belief

>>512802087
You realize that same argument works on you, but why would there be something rather than nothing? Why is most of the observable universe seemingly nothing besides literally Earth? That doesn't seem spontaneous to me. Especially as organized as it is. Why would the earth be in just the right range to the sun at just the right orbit with just the right gravity and apparently every single element needed to apparently spontaneously arrange itself so specifically that, for example, beanie babies became a thing? Why are humans so different from every other spontaneous living animal on the planet? Why dinosaurs? Why no more dinosaurs? None of this seems spontaneous at all. That seems like the last conclusion you would draw with these basic observations alone.

>>512793454 (OP)
But a super intelligent hyperbeing who cares what you put in your ass starting spontaneously. Nothing wrong with that.

Also, atheism has nothing to do with science or the current theory of the origin of life. I stopped believing in Jewish fairy tales before I ever even heard of the concept of evolution.

>>512797853
Uhh seethe more?
>>512800783
Uh you got the books messed up.

>>512802470
https://youtu.be/eJQ54wKlD2Q?si=so6ImN4f1whjCxVq

>>512802470
im not arguing for life to be spontaneous, im saying that either way, it's a belief and you guys are biased
i have no problem with anyone saying it took 200 gorillion years, i just want them to admit it's a belief, just like i admit i believe in creationism

>>512802694
>half-hour video
>some atheist just saying nah, you're wrong lol
Fuck off, a video link isn't an answer. In your own words, Sartre.

>>512802698
Yeah, I guess just like someone believing the world is a simulation built just for them, right? After all, nobody can disprove that, either. You don't believe in anything. Turn 15, edge lord.

>>512802917
>watch 3 minutes
>"lol this is wrong, but I won't explain why"
Ok.

>>512803019
>After all, nobody can disprove that, either.
yes, just like nobody can disprove 200 gorillion years happening, you're a biased hypocrite

>>512793454 (OP)
It wasn't spontaneous you monumental fucktard, it took billions of years just to go from prokaryotic life to eukaryotic and took billions more again to get to humans.

>>512803191
>Waaah why didn't you watch a half-hour long video I posted to make my argument for me???
Suck it, loser. You couldn't even make your own argument. I graciously accept your concession and am glad you finally found your faith in Christ.

>>512793454 (OP)
If life was intelligently designed then I have a bone to pick with the designer. There's some pretty fucking glaring mistakes.

>>512793861
Evolution is real and can be a means to an end, it can still be God's design. That is what should be debated. To deny the existence of evolution at this point is pretty ignorant.

>>512803223
And you're a fence-sitting wimp. At least I have convictions and don't toss my hands up in the air going, "Duur, it's too hard to think, I guess it's all as stupid as I am!" I argue for intelligent design, but evidenced in our interaction it's starting to seem less likely...

>>512795133
>Mutation is largely driven not by random chance but by the desires and fears of the organism. Neolamarckian evolution like described by William Walker Atkinson is absolutely true, go read The Arcane Teachings it explains how it works.
They tried this in the USSR.
It resulted in everyone starving after they killed the crops by implementing it and intentionally stressing out their crops.
Even if there is some guiding force in mutation, selective breeding and natural selection are still firmly established as key with well understood processes.

>>512803596
how am i fence sitting when i admitted to believe in creatonism, see >>512802698
for a guy from bongland, you sure dont know how to comprehend english, how do you live life being so disingenuous?

>>512803418
I guess it's my fault for playing chess with a pidgeon.

>>512803788
Lol throwing a cold turd on the ground in lieu of a discussion isn't chess, Ranjeet.

>>512795133
I used to desire green eyes but they never turned green. Why didn't I evolve?

>>512800644
>the most logical assumption with scant proof one way or the other would be that there was a god or we were intelligently designed
Not really transpermia makes more sense

>>512793806
>muh 6 gorrillion years
yet never observed once in nature

>>512793454 (OP)
this could only happen if it was designed from the beginning to evolve in this direction.

>>512803567
I never believed in evolution, I used to believe in heliocentrism, but never evolution, I just couldn't accept that we were some kind of accident because there is no chance.

>>512803567
This. I've never understood why the theory of evolution and a belief in a higher power were at odds. Sciencefags are typically atheistic and religiousfags take the bible literally I guess. This isn't centrist fence-sitting either. I'm not trying to appease either groups, they're just both retarded.

>>512793861
>It's also possible it wasn't
it is more likely that every single fossil remnant was spontaneously created out of geological formations in the past 6000 years than it was that a single complex self-replicating lifeform was created out of geological formations in the past 6 billion. as a pure statistical measure, creationists are more likely to be correct abotu the origin of life than natural-evolutionists

>>512800644
Who made God?

>>512795189
>nazi flag posting jewish theology
is this bait?

>>512803934
>ur a jeet!
Lol, really showing off that big brain.

>>512794934
viruses have never been observed in laboratory conditions. we believe they happen because we observe their effects.

>>512803961
Being created in the image of God is far more believable than being the result of an accident

>>512803956
That's even more far-fetched. Must have had amazing aim for all of life to end up only on earth and nowhere else in the observable universe. Almost as if it was guided, or intelligently designed...

>>512793861
>life arose randomly
you have no proof of this at all. the chances of it happening "randomly" is zero. You dont "randomly" go from amino acids to life

>>512795252
>just like AI does
You clearly haven't noticed how AI gets dumber and less useful with every new iteration. Opinion discarded

>>512804253
Still haven't offered a counter-argument in your own words. Gonna post another youtube link to "make" your argument for you, you lazy cold turd?

>>512804295
>That's even more far-fetched.
Not really. For you maybe.
>>512804295
>for all of life to end up only on earth and nowhere else in the observable universe
You don't know that.
>>512804295
>Almost as if it was guided, or intelligently designed...
Almost as if you're making shit up becaue you really don't know

>>512804290
I 100% agree bongbro

>>512804290
Coincidences have been observed to exist. The supernatural has not.

>>512803939
Evolution is very easy to understand. You don't even know the first thing about it if you're going to ask stuff like this. You're asking me to get on my knees and speak to you like you are five years old just to get you started. You need to stop talking about it until you learn something.