Thread 512808597

>re-embracing Hellenic philosophy and turning away from messianic judaism ("christ-ianity", lit. Messiah follower) was LE BAD
>t.nigger
I think the greater irony here is that the Vatican is thoroughly infiltrated by masons

political implications of schizophrenic niggers representing the "rightwing"?

>>512808597 (OP)
>enlightenment
>Hellenic philosophy
Pick one.

>re-embracing Hellenic philosophy
bend over white boi, time for your initiation ritual

Nigger did you really just mix up the Renaissance and the enlightenment?

niggers have zero business talking about european history and they have only really marginal business talking about american history stay in your lane. go put a damn bone in your nose and be a nigger you don't get to just jump on board the SS william luther pierce and grift all this 20 plus years of social enertia in the white american middle class and act like its a big bandwagon. if you want to clean the house and suck some white dick and be bwc only thats okay but we don't need a nigger to tell us what we are

>>512808695
Yea the shills we get are so fucking bad they misrepresent basic facts constantly

>>512808597 (OP)
>masons produced the enlightenment
wew lad

>>512808695
youre right to a degree. it wasn't just being exposed to Hellenic texts, but it was a catalyst for all that came after

candice should just say fuck kikes and clap her ass and be a nigger whore for bwc we don't need the gas station crackhead nigger conspiracy shit

Christianity is basically greek philosophy couched in jewish paint, and the renaissance was the strongest attempt to turn away from the jewish aspects basically ever. obviously it was followed by retarded christcuck warz for 200 years but still

>>512809276
Indeed. You can see it within Ficino. He is outwardly Christian, but inside he's a Plato fanboy studying obscure hermetic texts.

>>512808597 (OP)
>our history
Bitch you're african, western countries history is our history not yours

the entire issue is that isabella expelled jewry and they fled to the netherlands and then when cromwell decided to leroy jenkins the stewart crown the jews came back into england and the rest is history. really the fact that henry the 8th was a retard who made his own religion has nothing to do with the masons. catholicism has always had its issues with Mediterraneans using it as a vehicle to control the british islands which had its own ancient druidic priest caste. there is absolutely nothing wrong with kants method of experiencing reality the entire issue is related to franz boas and the other subhuman jews who completely perverted the entire european mentality

that being said big booty black bitches should stay in their lane and go ass up like master said those lips are not for telling master what to do

>>512808597 (OP)
>the past was LE GOOD
What good is your past if it led us to this?

>>512808597 (OP)
The Enlightenment is the reason we are living in the modern world, that means flight, computers and life-saving medicine. Niggers can go live in the pre-Enlightenment world with like-minded jehavas golems. Bye.

>>512808850

Europes development was guided by a foreign occupation hence the curious transition from mudhuts to providence

because Niggers are the Godfathers of European identity; a feigned sense of pride reflecting a majesty which the white "man" is simply allowed to be a purveyor of

lest it remain as beast as per its natural assigned lot, now they reflect the image of their masters

>>512808597 (OP)
Candace Owens is a retarded woman. She's worthless, except she made herself a problem we all have to deal with. One day we will deal with it.

>>512809952
People are resisting against this political conception of "enlightenment" which you are doing here, it's a sleight of hand trying to smuggle in liberal humanist philosophy in the backdoor by associating it with technology and science. Don't think people can't see it.

>>512809518
I’m zero percent Greek but I consider the Greeks part of my “cultural history” because their philosophy greatly influenced the way I think.

I also think ones “cultural history” is more important than their genetic history.
Examples:
>white feminists
>wiggers
>white zionists
One of these could be my brother by blood and I would not consider them kin.
Rare though they might be, I would experience more kinship with a brown libertarian student of philosophy than a White tranny.

And isn’t that the story of this board, anyways? We all know most of the users here are not white.

>>512810395
You cant rewrite history. Dont think people cant see it.

>>512810391
>t. freemason buttfucker

>>512808813
To be fair Humanism was the base of both

>>512809518
>Fingolia
>Western

>>512808597 (OP)
>masons
Catholicism was infiltrated before the Gregorian reforms. There's nothing left of christianity prior to that.

>>512808597 (OP)
>Hellenic philosophy
the root of convergenism?

>>512810735
looks russian

>>512810391
wtf are you talking about schizo!?

>>512810391
Nobody refuted that btw. Macron actually cried to Trump to call Candace about his tranny wife...
How embarrassing...

>>512808597 (OP)
Did Freemasons frame Harvey Weinstein too?

>>512811249
frankists*

Yeah, bullshit. Shame on all of you. This administration is actively trying to pull us all back to the dark ages with its regressive scientific policies, and neutering people’s critical thinking skills in favor of what the orange has to say.

There’s a reason scientists hate trump, and it’s because trump is anti-science.

You’re fighting on the side of anti-vaxxers and flat earthers right now. Shame.


Also yeah Candace is an empty shell of a human that should go away forever.

>>512810547
candace has no connection with europe, except christcuckery and this is what she clings to. shes black african

>>512813305
What did you have for breakfast

>>512813528

Toast and sausage. Does it matter, though.

>>512813665
Just seeing if there's a human in there

>>512813738

Okay?? You know that I’m right, though. As a scientist myself, it’s dire. America is no longer the intellectual leader of the world, and it’s all because of that orange man’s policies. Candace Owens is a wannabe orange man, but she’s also a failure and people mostly laugh at her. It’s much more prudent to focus on the fucking climate denier in charge of the fucking White House, yeah?

>>512813930
No, I'm completely and totally ideologically opposed to everything you say. Your science is all fake political stuff that covers for power. It's not real. All government scientists are whores and prostitutes and flatterers and bureaucrats. Modern day court astrologers.
>climate denier
Denier is a word reserved for heretics. You're doing religion, not science.

>>512808597 (OP)
She's a dumb nigger bimbo. I bet she has never read Kant, she wouldn't understand shit anyway.

>>512814140

No, really. Science is the process of asking questions and preforming experiments to ascertain things that are true, or false. Religion is the process of saying that something is true, then never asking questions or preforming experiments. They are diametrically opposed.

While you’re at it, could you try listing the particular fields you think are “””religion””” and exactly why In detail? I wanna know why you think like you do.

>>512814397
In theory, yes. In reality, it's being a money grubbing whore for political power and having no principles.
>could you try listing the particular fields you think are “””religion””” and exactly why In detail
Anything which is useful to power will be corrupted by power. Are you a scientist who happens to disagree with a political agenda? Guess what, you aren't a scientist anymore!
>asking questions and preforming experiments to ascertain things that are true
Guess what happened to all the scientists who asked questions about anthropogenic climate change and wanted to do research to test its validity? They all lost their funding! Congrats, you aren't a scientist anymore.

>>512814715
Same was also true of covid too. Doctors who didn't want to get behind Big Pharma's money making operation started discovering their licenses being revoked.

>>512810395
good post

>>512814715

Okay, so, having a political ideology is not incompatible with being a scientist. By that logic, scientists have never existed on this earth.

Second- it’s not like that. Not how funding works. If you have a credible enough lead, you can get funded for basically anything. Also, those guys don’t get funding because they specifically are not trying to do science. To do a study with the goal of proving or disproving a thing is not science. Doing a study on a thing is science.

So, if someone wanted to study anthropogenic climate change, then they DO get funding, whether the conclusion is supportive or not. Get it?

>>512813449
I did not say anything about Candace.

Would you rather spend an hour with a black man equal to you in intelligence with your same hobbies and interests, or with a wigger zoomer feminist Zionist who is white?

>>512814397
> Science is the process of asking questions and preforming experiments to ascertain things that are true, or false.

>>512815179

Meme is not an argument. Try again.

We did it,, Twitter!

>>512815086
>if someone wanted to study anthropogenic climate change, then they DO get funding
But they don't lol. William Gray was a hurricane scientist and he lost all his grant money after he started becoming critical of global warming. You do not get grant money if it goes against what the people giving the grants want you to find. It isn't science. This is also why there's no research into race/IQ stuff either. Your image of what science is, and what it actually is are completely different.

>>512815086
>those guys don’t get funding because they specifically are not trying to do science
"Doing science" here is providing justification and rationalizations for what Power wants to believe. If you challenge any of Power's narratives, then it is suddenly "not science". Exactly as you describe here. Going against the political grain "not science". Supporting all the regime's narratives = "science".

>>512815373

Because he was going into it with the GOAL of disproving it, rather than preforming experiments before making up his mind. Like, exactly what I said? Also, global warming is real. Look up the Maldives, they’re literally sinking into the ocean from sea level rise.

Also, peer review is a thing? Scientists don’t do things alone, and other scientists verify their work thouroughly to make sure that they did science the right way.

>>512815558
>he was going into it with the GOAL of disproving it
That's what you *just* said the goal of science was, lol. Here >>512814397
>Science is the process of asking questions and preforming experiments to ascertain things that are true, or false
How can you do science if you aren't trying to disprove the null hypothesis? Why can you not grasp what it is I'm saying? I'm saying that all Science is completely subordinate and totally dominated by political Power. And that everything you think you know that comes from Science, actually comes from Power, and is laundered through Science to provide a justification for it. There is nothing that Power wants you to believe, that you don't uncritically accept.
>peer review is a thing
We asked the Mafia to investigate the Mafia and the Mafia found that it was completely innocent of all charges.

>>512808597 (OP)
anyone who takes candace seriously is beyond hope. she's retarded

>>512815825

Dude, seriously? The whole point of what I said is that he started with a GOAL. A conclusion to reach.

Science is not supposed to start with a GOAL. It is supposed to reach that conclusion after everything else is done!

Finally, please tell me how politics is supposed to be puppeteering science around to do its bidding. Last I checked, most scientists are working at both private and public universities, not fucking Lockheed Martin.

>>512816090
>please tell me how politics is supposed to be puppeteering science around to do its bidding
Okay. It controls all its funding. If you control the funding of anything, you can promote the things you want, and weed out the bad stuff.
>most scientists are working at both private and public universities
These places are also subordinate and willing collaborators with regime power. If you're familiar with Lysenkoism, you should be aware that most science that takes place in the Western world, if it has any political relevance whatsoever, is Lysenkoism.

>>512810391
Kek so its true after all

>>512816289

Well, that still doesn’t explain it. I asked how the politicians control the funding, and you said that they control the funding because they control the funding. More detail, please?????

And, real talk, how the fuck is quantum mechanics, biology, chemistry, astronomy, and mathematics agenda-driven. Think reallllly hard about that.

Where did you even hear this conspiracy from?

>>512816289

Not to mention the Lysenkoism thing. That’s the biggest turd I ever did hear, dude. I can assure you that exactly zero universities seriously consider it, unless you count creationist propaganda organizations.

>>512816850
Science is funded through federal grant money and most scientists spend their time writing grant applications where they need to prove their work will have proper impact and meet whatever specs they need.
>quantum mechanics, biology, chemistry, astronomy, and mathematics agenda-driven
Anything which is politically relevant will be subsumed and taken over. I trust you recently saw the story last week about Terrence Tao's funding being pulled due to his university not being pro-Zionist enough.
>Where did you even hear this conspiracy from?
Power existing is not a conspiracy. It's all around you!
>>512817086
>I can assure you that exactly zero universities seriously consider it,
I don't think you understand the point I'm making. Lysenkoism was fake science that was promoted in the USSR because it aligned with the goals of the political power of that regime. The exact same thing is true of all the "science" which is mainlined in the western empire that you and I both live in.

>>512808597 (OP)
>they have been lying about our history
... but enough about Chr*stians

>>512816850
Also, for the record, if you're not familiar with the extent to which biology has been extremely tightly controlled by politics, then you really don't know a lot about the field. Anything to do with group based selection is treated as heresy because of its political implications.

>>512817188

Glad we can agree on something, buddy! Now, go ahead and tell me who cut Tao’s funding. WAS IT TRUMP? WAS IT TRUMP, DUDE? YES IT WAS! TRUMP IS ANTI-SCIENCE!

Thank you for proving my original point for me lmao

I will say again- where. Did you hear. This from. Who told you this.

>>512809276
I think you mean christianity is a cult that worships a jew, which no one would convert to, so jews bolted Hellenic thought on top

>>512817432
>when Jews pull funding to universities its anti-science
>when progressives pull funding to their political enemies, it's Science™
I resent the fact that I share a planet with monkeys like you. I think you should do everyone a favour and return to plebbit so you can be with the rest of your kind.

>>512817659

Webpage shit itself, put me under different I’d. anyway, the actual fuck you talking about religion here for? This is a deflection. I did not bring up religion once in our entire conversation.

Also, it’s not treated as heresy, but group based selection hasn’t been refuted because politics, it’s been refuted because the underlying assumptions about the theory turned out to be incorrect. Please, look things up before you say them.

If you believe in prisca theologia then you won't hesitate to discover it in the thinking of Monotheists. Neoplatonism is essentially "perennial".

Kant's categorical imperative is all anybody interested in ethics needs. The problem is some people crazy stories about powers of gods or like pondering the meaning of meaningless strings of vague words more than ethics.

>>512808813
Nigger the enlightenment caused the rennaissance.

>>512817932
The formal meaning is "underlying assumptions were incorrect". The real meaning is "this is politically dangerous for us to allow it to exist, our political enemies must be destroyed". It's such an amazing coincidence that science always aligns with power, every single time.

>>512817659

So, I’ll ask a third time. Where. Did. You. Get. Your. Info. From.

If you name a person or organization that’s a right-wing political activist you can fuck right off.

>Candace Owens being a stupid nigger again

Wow, shocking. It's a shame her nigger ancestors didn't build AI while da freemasuns tricked everyone in Europe into being less retarded and superstitious.

>>512818109
I'm not saying anything that you shouldn't already be familiar with if you know Orwell. If you can't understand that political power exists, ruthlessly eliminates rivals and wants to promote narratives that ensure its survival, then I can't help you. You either understand this or you don't. My guess is you don't.

>>512818174
>less superstitious
I think you mean less careful and less aware. So much less that they forfeited their own societies.

>>512808597 (OP)
is she a fucking monarchist now? how does anyone take this shit seriously lmao

>>512818427

I read the book lmao. But, you STILL haven’t named a source. A fictional story, however realistic, is not a source. Cmon dude, I’m really trying to help you here, but you just keep fighting.

Science isn’t dogma, scientists aren’t sheep. It’s probably the LEAST political thing on earth. Just use a fucking search engine, all of this information is RIGHT THERE! I beg of you, just google what you think to verify it! Do an experiment! Do any amount of thinking!

There’s a reason you keep dodging the question, and I want you to really look inside and ask yourself why. Why do you really believe what you believe?

>>512818692
Science isn't all dogma but there is a societal institution of science that is foundationally dogmatic. Fallibilism doesn't get you off the hook for being backward in your objective commitments.

>>512818692
>needing a source for the idea that political power exists
You must be some kind of turbo-redditor. Do you want a source for the sky being blue too? How about use your brain? Wait, you've never used that before in your life, you just outsource it to corporations who do all your thinking for you.

>>512818692
>Science isn’t dogma, scientists aren’t sheep
pfizer is the company that paid the biggest criminal fine in american history, and they paid that fine for falsifying the tests of their products required for public safety. despite this, when they rolled out a vaccine done much faster than ever before, basically 99% of "scientists" simply endorsed it without question

>>512818692
Do you think all the doctors who lost their licenses during covid for going against the government also think that medical science is "the least political thing on earth"?
Obviously you're glad those people were purged because they "weren't doing Real Science™!" because real science is doing whatever the government says in all cases.

>>512808597 (OP)
>our history

>>512818977

I’m so sorry for you. Please, I beg of you, seriously, use google to verify your claims. You have a library of everything humans have ever known, but you don’t use it. I tried to save you, but if you don’t want my help, so be it. It’s nobody’s fault but yours that you refuse to learn.

Also, you’re anti-vaccine? Are you fucking kidding me right now? If there’s one thing to take away from this conversation, it’s that you should not believe that. Anti-vaccine misinformation has led to so many deaths, and is extremely dangerous to public health.

For the record, the sky is in fact blue! Source:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/chemistry/rayleigh-scattering

I’m sorry you’re like this. Really, I am.
Have a good life, Anon, and please, try a little harder.

>>512819333
>all those words just to ignore everything we brought up
turn that lens on yourself and take your own advice brother

>>512819333
Holy shit you're such a pseud fucking twat it's unreal. What's your highest level of education?

>>512815271
> Meme is not an argument. Try again.

>>512808597 (OP)
So do something about it. All you pussies do is cry.

>>512808597 (OP)
The dark ages were actually where a lot was established.

>>512819439

Masters degree in quantum physics, five years in the field working on string theory. What’s yours, random internet troll?

Try a little harder to not be an asshole every time someone disagrees with you.

>>512819674
Post any evidence of thiswhatsoever, you sound like a high schooler.

>>512819333
When you ask for a source, you are telling me that there are certain authorities in the world that you trust. You trust what sciencedirect.com says. You probably trust anything you see in the first page of results on google. You think you trust "science" but you actually just trust government power and their narratives. You will not believe anything I say, unless you see it repeated by one of these trusted source of authority. Ironically, the claim you are asking me to verify is the actual existence of these trusted source of authority. Once again, please use your brain.

>>512819674
Hey there little Timmy, you must be 18 to post here.

>>512819674
>string theory
The fakest science of all.

>>512808597 (OP)
IT'S TURKEY AND PROVOLONE, CANDACE
NOT ROCKET SCIENCE

Shared understandings of the world create shared assumptions about reality. What objective truths are there beyond consensus reality, and not merely faith or worldview, then? Gravity? As opposed to what we mean when we use that word? The intuition a troon feels when he insists that he's not a biological male despite all appearance to the contrary? No, in spite of our scientific, biological understanding of what a male IS? Is that Real?

Seems like it's all just made up by the mind of someone or several "someones" regardless of the value we place on it in relation to other things.

>>512819762

And risk losing anonymity on here so all of you people can harass me? Fucking not. Anyway, gauge groups U(1)xSU(2)xSU(3) are responsible for the three fundamental forces of quantum field theory. The Higgs field, via the Yukawa coupling, provides particles with mass due to its non-zero VeV. Electrons and neutrinos are a weak doublet with a broken symmetry, with the properties Q=-1/0, Y=-1, T3=1/2/-1/2. That proof enough for you?

>lying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0
>lol

Belief is limiting.
>I went to college, therefore I have something more to offer society than a rape rate Indian h1b

>>512808597 (OP)
She’s right, the enlightenment was a mistake and NOT anything like “Hellenic” philosophy at all.

>>512820078
Lmfao delete your account you fucking dork.

>>512808597 (OP)
Holy based. She knows the jews are lying about everything. Dinosaurs are fake among many other things.

>>512820167
>Mathematical Physicists
This one's an easy one. It's what Bill Gaede bitched about constantly at his European conference of engineers.
>"The language of Physics isn't math, it's Mechanism"

Well, I was correct! Me knowing what the fuck I’m talking about did not convince you that I’m correct, ergo none of you are interested in actually learning anything, you just like your anti-establishment narrative. If quantum physicists aren’t the authorities on quantum physics, then who the fuck is, idiots.

>>512820303
If quantum physics ever becomes politically relevant it will become something completely different, just like what climate science is today.

>>512820170
>Dinosaurs are fake
bruh where do you think those fossils come from

>>512819333
>Anti-vaccine misinformation has led to so many deaths, and is extremely dangerous to public health.
Do you also think that gain of function research led to many deaths and is dangerous to public health?

>>512820303
Those who are part occultist and part human calculator. Alchemy is making a comeback in some circles.

The metaphysical assumption in quantum physics is that all is number, all is mind. It's a Pythagorean cult repackaged by the Oriental world for the present day.

How does the average academic scientist not see this?

>>512808597 (OP)
>I think the greater irony here is that the Vatican is thoroughly infiltrated by masons
which in turn were subverted by jesuits

And who are the experts in medicine, if not doctors? Who are the experts in climate, if not meteorologists? Who ar e the experts on biology, if not biologists? There’s one thing you need to remember. Politics can only sway how much of the funding goes to what, but it can never sway the conclusions of what does get funded. The data is absolute, the agenda is secondary. I hope you all one day can think a little about that.

>>512820531
Jesuits are Rosicrucians and Masons alike.

I’m gonna leave now. It’s pretty clear now that you guys aren’t here to talk about science.

Try harder, people. Have a good one.

>>512820568
All subordinate to political power. All bow before comrade Stalin. The separation of Science and State is a myth.
>it can never sway the conclusions of what does get funded
It just buries them, like what happened with race science. All the doors are welded shut now so nobody can get in.

>>512820568
Get a load of this bootlicker. He thinks the AMA determines expertise all by itself. Rockefeller cut-burn-douse emergency medicine is the only kind that ever existed throughout all of human history, eh?

Total undergrad brain where the promise of success matters very much more than getting mired in suspicious paradoxes.

>>512820646
Have an absolutely fantastic crimestop, anon.

>>512820696
If he accepts anything we say then he's devaluing his own status. What's that quote about getting people to believe something if their salary depends on not understanding it?

>>512820859
They run when surrounded. Every time.

>>512808597 (OP)
The worst part about the NuRight, aside from all the shitskins ofc, are the brainlet takes that derive from nothing other than head canon and memes. The stormfags of old/pol/ were cringe but at least they would read political and philosophical works and had a bit more than a high school level understanding of history and sociology.

>>512808759
>Guys Greeks weren't gay
>Xenophon writes about a Greek soldier willing to die to save the life of a boy he doesn't even know on the grounds that he's sexy
Greeks were gay and they were simps.

>>512818099
No you little kid

>>512808597 (OP)
Does "Real Candace Owens" have a technical degree or show any sign of knowing wtf she is talking about in science and technology? Or history for that matter. She's from Africa, I'm not.

>>512809984
Does this post make any sense?

>>512810391
And then Candace outs the call, assuming it happened, to boost her perceived importance.

What a bitch. Not stupid. Evil. Maybe CIA, like her friend Tucker who pretended he didn't know his father worked for the CIA even though Putin revealed that Tucker had applied to work at CIA.

>>512808597 (OP)
>christ-ianity
What?
Christianity is the anti thesis of rabbinicalism, shlomo.

>>512809276
What jewish aspects?
Kikery as a religion arose well after Christianity, the Talmud is much younger than the Bible.

>>512823209
Have you ever even read the bible? Do you know what the incident at Antioch is?