Thread 512822151

Is there any form of media, be it movies, games or music, that you can appreciate despite its creators being diametrically opposed to your deep-seated beliefs? Do the creators' contrary beliefs filter into their work? Do you feel dissonance or are you able to compartmentalize your own rejection of their work just to appreciate its merits?

Me: Maggie Rogers. On the surface, she embodies everything I loathe about modern female Pop. She's a progressive poster child who stumps for the Democratic Party, cites feminist theory like scripture and serenades a liberal middle class audience hellbent on transforming America into a political monoculture. My inner Carl Schmitt demands the friend/enemy distinction, but I sheath my sword for her. Beneath the activism lies something rarer than ideological alignment: raw humanity.

Surrender sounds like a private journal blasted through stadium-sized hooks. Energetic and upbeat songs like "Shatter", "Want Want" and "Overdrive" hit with fuzzed adrenaline while "Be Cool" exhales into groove-cooled calm. Other songs like "Anywhere With You" and "Begging for Rain" drip with melancholy without being maudlin. Nothing stagnates; even the quiet tracks stay in motion.

Maggie's resonant purity inspires building futures or collapsing into into the arms of someone who loves you after a brutal day. All told, it may be the most unapologetically human album ever to breach the radio.

>>512822151 (OP)
Lots of different artists. I like Genesis under Peter Gabriel even though he's a borderline Communist.

>>512822151 (OP)
There are many entertainers that are extremely talented. Doesn't change the fact that most of them are moral shitstains, that should be beaten to within an inch of their miserable lives.

>>512824157
It depends. If they merely have opinions that are contrary to yours, there's room for debate. If they actively support various causes you are opposed to, then enjoying their music becomes much more difficult.

>>512822151 (OP)
yeah, i can, i wouldnt like anything if i focused on their lives

>>512824983
Obviously. The vast majority of any creative type follow either social liberalism or radical leftism. Their art is frequently good in spite of their politics, not because of them.

>>512823592
> Peter Gabriel even though he's a borderline Communist

Gabriel is a genuinely weird human being.
At the peak of psychedelic and art rock era of which he was at the forefront, he was putting out trespass, nursery cryme, and the like stone cold sober, running only on his own natural weirdness.

So it’s not shocking when you hear that he holds some delusional ideas.

>>512822151 (OP)
neither I, nor anybody who is not successfully scamming the US tax officials with "art" for tax breaks, has any fucking idea of what art is

>>512827041
And his music is twice as soulful as Phil Collins-era Genesis ever was.

>>512827250
I don't think OP is referring necessarily to fine art alone. He's including TV, music and whatnot.