Thread 512823416

I grew up catholic but the trinity was always such a stupid concept to me.

cheeseburger has cheese, burger, pickles inside but is still 1 cheeseburger

>>512823416 (OP)
i think some book aggress with you here

sorry bro, takes over 70iq to understand

>>512823416 (OP)
Trinity is saying the holy spirit that appears in the bible is jesus, is the god. The whole father, son, and spirit is just a gay thing.

>>512823416 (OP)
faith comes by hearing
and hearing by the Word of God
humble yourself before God and chose to hear and obey His Word, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, His life, death, burial and ressurection, and you will be saved, and you will receive the Holy Spirit, He will lead you and guide you in all truth, and He will reveal the Father and the Son.
So, first, believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, put God first, commit to wholeheartedly obey Him, and follow Him, and trust Him with all you are and He will delight in revealing Himself, His nature, the mystery of the Godhead: Father, Son, Spirit: One God.
Faith in Christ is 1st, then comes the knowledge of the Holy One.

>>512823416 (OP)
The trinity is just the monad. It has nothing to do with Christianity. God is a physical being and man is made in his image.

>>512823416 (OP)
>trinity
if you are god and you have to rape a 12 year old virgin to give birth to your son you need to make up some good shit

>>512823869
>>512823546
>>512823588

There is literally 0 proof that Jesus is God or claimed to be, you will never find a verse in the bible that will be explicit, only theories and teaching from the bad churches.

While All is see is Jesus saying
>its the Father's will not mine
>he is greater than I
>no one knows the hour but the father
>the only true god is the father
Actual verses you can find.

>>512823416 (OP)
No foreskin lel.

The first Christians were unitarians. The trinity or god-head was a belief that didn't show up for around 500 years after Christ. His apostles never taught this. If this trinity were true to the teachings of Jesus, the Christ would have spoke of this, as would have the apostles. There is one God. He is the father and creator of all things. His son is Jesus, the messiah. The holy spirit is the power that god gives to those who believe in the Christ.

>>512824164
Go back to Red dit you fucking faggot

>>512824108
Ok its pretty clear there was no rape.
But this whole idea of omnipotent God needing to come out of a woman's vagina and kill himself 3 decades later just doesnt make much sense.

All that just for christians to say "oh well i cant follow his example, he was God". The prophesized messiah was meant to be a mortal man. Not God.

It really feels like christianity just combined dionysus myth with judaism. I just don't get how it survived and now is having a revival.

>>512824901
>His son is Jesus
Aren't we all God's children?
I always thought when Jesus says My Father it's just how rabbis talked back in the day. In the old testament angels are known as Sons of God as well

>>512823416 (OP)
The trinity was a Druid concept (Maiden, Mother and Crone) that was co-opted by cathokikes so that they could replace it with a jewish male version and jam the Johanine Comma into an obscure part of John's epistle.

They also stole the concept of purgatory.

>>512826895
goyim are sons of saytan

>>512827031
Messiah is a Jewish word and concept

goyim don't believe in messiah

hence Jews get to define what messiah is

/thread

>>512826895
No, the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus because he told them he is God's Son.

>>512827282
Correct, this is why the christcuck can never defeat the jew. The game was rigged from the start.

>>512823416 (OP)
there's three gods
>father universe
>son galaxy
>holy spirit earth

gave up the ghost, even earth will too

>>512827545
The "Nation of Gods and Earths", also known as the Five-Percent Nation, is a cultural and social movement founded in Harlem, New York City, in 1964 by Clarence 13X (also known as Allah the Father). It's characterized by the belief that Black people are the original people of the Earth and that Black men are Gods and Black women are Earths. They emphasize self-knowledge, education, and empowerment through understanding the "Supreme Mathematics" and "Supreme Alphabet

Unironically how do people believe in anything? I don't know why anyone believes in any religion, aliens, mothman, Atlantis, any of that shit with as much conviction as their belief in the air.

>>512823416 (OP)
It's part of the intentional cognitive dissonance that Christianity seeks to instill in its followers to further their brainwashing, similar to a gang requiring you to commit a crime or get jumped by other members to become one, or a cult leader demanding you give half your paycheck and your wife to the cult.

Once you've committed to "believing" in some silly ass shit like a 3-in-1 trinity god, you're ready to get dragged into the next level of irrational bullshit.

>>512827725
all of that is trivial, like never knowing what earth is the first

>>512827545
The Nation of Gods and Earths teaches the belief that Black people are the original people of the planet Earth and are therefore the fathers ("Gods") and mothers ("Earths") of civilization.[2] The Nation teaches that Supreme Mathematics and Supreme Alphabet, a set of principles created by Allah the Father, is the key to understanding humankind's relationship to the universe. The Nation teaches that the black man, insofar as the Nation defines this race, is himself God, with the black race being a race of actual gods.[2]

>>512827833
insanity is a package deal

>>512823416 (OP)
I think the human mind just has trouble comprehending it. I like to use DnD as a metaphor to help bridge the gap.
>DM = God
>Yeshua (jesus) = DM PC
>Holy spirit = DM guiding you via.. are you sure you wanna do that?

>>512827885
After leaving the NOI, he renamed himself "Allah the Father". He was joined by Abu Shahid, formerly John 37X, who agreed with Allah's questioning of Wallace Fard Muhammad. Allah the Father and Shahid were nicknamed "High Scientists" due to their intense study of lessons.[5] Allah was joined by Justice, formerly James 109X, a

>>512823416 (OP)
The trinity appears nowhere in the bible. It's an assumption some sects of Christianity make. It's all one God doing different things. Jesus is almost like a video game avatar played by God, limiting himself to the same rules humans have to play under.

>>512824164
Catholics are stupid but when you show them from the Bible how they're wrong they always just say they believe better than you, or its a mystery and God only let's the pope know it.

>>512824901
only true post in this thread

>>512823416 (OP)
trinity is a humiliation ritual
there's no way to explain or understand the trinity without committing le heresy, the point is to force you to believe in something that doesn't make sense

If there is a god then it is a stupid fucking retarded one that you shouldn't bother wasting the breath of prayers on

>>512828468
>goys believe in trinitardation because goys are naturally retarded cattle

>>512823416 (OP)
Yeah God and Jesus are 2 people but I guess you can say God sent an avatar of himself.
>Father
>Son
>Holy Ghost
but yeah they probably could have just said it was 3 because if Jesus is just an avatar of God then The Holy Ghost should just be god so it would be a duo?
idfk man I just know God/Jesus is king and if I believe he died for my sins then I can not go to hell and I get the gift of eternal life.
Not sure what Catholics believe. I only really know about Catholicism from The Sopranos.

>>512824164
Nicean Heretics believe in the trinity

>>512827773
My Heathen beliefs are nothing so metaphysical. From my perspective, there are at least two main parts: connecting with your ancestors (researching how they lived, what they valued, what symbols and myths they used) and nature spirits. Most modern people don't experience or appreciate nature nearly enough, but once your open up your soul to it, you'll notice just how divine nature truly is.

It's connecting the microcosm to the macrocosm, understanding your higher self and the higher collective of the vegetable Earth matrix and how it all connects together.

Hope that helped give some perspective.

>>512828497
>>512828497
back in da day you would pray to any retard who could save you from becoming the next meal on chinks plate

>>512828735
All those who call to me but by any other name are mine and dear to me

>>512823416 (OP)
Well, shit. Why didn't you say something sooner anon? I would have certainly given up my lifelong devotion to Christ Jesus had I known you thought it was stupid

>>512823416 (OP)
Tri harder

>>512828735
>but once your open up your soul to it, you'll notice just how divine nature truly is.
what does that mean though? I have been to nature and appreciated it but I don't feel anything "divine"

>>512829081
It means whatever you will it to mean. If you go in with a cynical mentality of "this sucks, nature is just stupid trees n stuff", then you won't connect to the divine aspect of nature. If you climb a mountain during a full moon and then burn some incense at the peak while doing a Mongolian throat chant, you're more likely to feel something significant.

I know it sounds silly, but if you verbally thank the land spirits when your in the wilderness, they'll open up to you and start to show themselves. Humans are very often rude and destructive towards them, so they prefer to hide most of the time, hence why people mostly stopped believing in them. It takes a bit of extra effort to get on their good side again.

>>512823416 (OP)
The Trinity is kooky shit. It’s where Christianity originally went full retard. The mess we have today is a result of it. It was a Medieval purity spiral that couldn’t hold up against The Enlightenment.

It’s sufficient to say Jesus is the favored son. That is objectively true by so many worshipping him.

>trinity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0
>lol

>>512823416 (OP)
Why change a running system?
The holy ghost is strong these days.

>>512823416 (OP)
It's sort of like arguing whether or not an apple, an orange and a pear are all the same thing. They're all fruits. They all fit in the palm of my hand. They all turn into poop in my bowels. I could argue for an eternity that they are all the same thing, and you could argue for an eternity that they are all different. It's just time wasting sophistry to keep busybodies busy. I'd rather they were off in a convent or monastary arguing about The Holy Trinity than making laws about how long pencils are legally allowed to be.

>>512829374
will they like it if I play twinkle twinkle little star on my electric guitar?

>>512829374
If you do that a tree will call you a nigger and start to shake profusely and laugh at you.

>>512829710
They would probably prefer acoustic, but give it a shot and see what happens :)

>>512829757
That's just my cousin fucking with me

>>512823416 (OP)
If anything Jesus of Nazareth was a man, born from a women, and died a man.
And was made holy and godly upon his death.
It doesn’t mean he was evil or a god, but I believe the message of the New Testament against the jewry is quite prolific for its time.

>>512828652
If it's an avatar, even the best there is, above everything else, then salvation is not possible as the Divine/contingent creation was never gaped.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PhTRWW2pYG8?feature=share

>>512829919
this so much

Aryan woman: "Jesus, please help!! My daughter has a demon!! Please cast it out of her!!"

*The woman proceeds to worship Jesus.*

Jesus: "Oy vey, another goyim shiksa. Ok disciples, let me handle this."

*Jesus clears his throat*

Jesus: "Ok so my blessings are like bread, right?"

Aryan woman: "Yes Lord, that's right!"

Jesus: "Ok yeah, and you wouldn't give your kid's bread to a dog, right?"

Aryan woman: "Uhh, L-Lord, what are you trying to say?"

Jesus: "Hold on lemme finish! So basically you wouldn't give bread to a dog right?"

Aryan woman: "I...no Lord. I wouldn't."

Jesus: "Ok so there you go."

Aryan woman: "B-but....But Jesus....Even dogs...*sniff* Even dogs eat the children's crumbs from under the table when they lick the floor like dumb animals."

Jesus: "Woah...wtf...lol."

*Disciples start snickering and laughing.*

Jesus: "Ok ok because you said this, I'll heal your daughter. But first you gotta bark like a dog!!"

Aryan woman: *sob* "b-bark bark..."

Jesus: "lol fucking goyim. Ok now go away, your daughter is all better lol."

Mark 7:24-29

>>512829919
You can think of Christ’s time on Earth kind of like Robert E. Lee’s time at West Point. No demerits.

Hope that helps.

>>512823416 (OP)
A person is defined purely in relation to other persons
A being is a contained existence with a number of qualities.
God is a being with three persons.
The father, Son and Holy spirit each each relate interpersonally to each other, while being part of the same being (God).
God is an infinite being, so wrapping your head around that being is not possible realistically as a human outside of a theoretical basis.

>>512823416 (OP)
Its bullshit that isnt even in the septuagint. Jews just added that shit so that other jews would stop joining. They completely controlled Constantine and the Nicean council.

>>512830423
it's also to certify goys are retards

>>512823416 (OP)
It was a polytheistic population being forced into monotheism, some concessions had to be made.

>>512830625
Yeah, it seems like some ancient technique to create cognitive dissonance. Get someone to admit 1+1+1=1
If you can believe that, you can believe anything.
Seemed like it was used for the nimrod trinity and the set trinity at least

>>512823416 (OP)
den you just ain't a Christian. It's straight like that! If it makes you feel better, Protestants are cancelled to us Christians also.

>>512823416 (OP)
How do billions of people believe in gay Jewish fairytales that were started by schizo Abraham?

>>512823416 (OP)
It's 1 being and 3 persons.

It's not hard, unless you're too retarded to distinguish the difference between what something is and who something is. There's 1 answer to what God is, and 3 answers to who God is. Simple.

>>512824164
John 10:30 I and my Father are one.

>>512831908
One in mission

just like
Galatians 3:28 “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all ONE in Christ Jesus.

John 17:21 — Jesus prays, “that they may all be ONE, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in US...”

its about mission, and it doesn't explain the verses here >>512824164

its not your fault, it the churches who added this concept, and I will stay convinced that No one who reads the raw bible without outside interference will come to the conclusion that Jesus is God.

>>512823546
but they are still consideted seperate entities

>>512832662
Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

>>512832937
That doesn't say they're all the same thing at once

>>512833919
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

So many other things in Christianity that you could ponder and criticize, and the trinity is not one of them. It’s perfectly understandable and not a problem at all. So bizarre

>>512824164
>Before Abraham was, I am
Lying kike (sorry for repeating myself)

>>512834172
That's the Logos, at what point is the father and bird brought up?

>>512828253
You’re a literal retard seeing as Catholics and Protestants don’t disagree on the issue you responded to. Never post again

>>512828661
There are no Arians anymore so we can safely assume you’re a kike

>>512827031
This is a kike

>>512834272
You're really bad at pilpul

>>512827498
This is a kike
>>512827833
This is a kike

>>512823416 (OP)
>retards who've been fed the sloppy toppy dogmas can't process esotericism
Nothing new

>>512831069
Maybe you’re just retarded? It’s really not that complicated

>>512823416 (OP)
God is the god.
Jesus is god on earth because humans are dumb and they need a human to represent god to learn from and still have free will. God tried to go himself but it was a disaster.
The holy Spirit is the mark of God which imbues those who are marked with powers given to them by god. It's all god retard it's not even hard to understand and I'm not even a christfag

>>512831188
This is a kike

>>512834396
>>512834421
>>512834434
chriggers only have cope and seethe when even slightly pressed

>>512834702
This is a kike

>>512823416 (OP)
Come on its just a triple god, we've had those since the Bronze Age at least.
It's not a difficult concept.

>>512834774
Don't you worship a kike? I can't understand christcucks

>>512834816
You have to go back

>>512823416 (OP)
They killed a bunch of guys to push this concept through. The strange thing is that it's never been brought up for discussion since then. However, all theological discussion seems to be dead. Even for most church ministers, faith seems to be a kind of hobby that they don't take particularly seriously. Recorded public theological debates between monks, when this was still practiced, make fascinating reading.

>>512823706
I am that I am
Which is..to say..
I am Negan
Simple as

>>512834774
this is?

>>512834937
No they didn’t. Every bishop except two agreed. They exiled Arias because he wouldn’t sign off. Stop lying

>>512827833
/thread

>>512834988
This is a kike

>>512828238
Christians really be saying shit like this & calling US 70iq foh

>>512823546
so according to this if I go to McDonald’s and say I want a cheeseburger and they give me a pickle it would be blasphemy to reject the pickle and demand my cheeseburger because the pickle is equivalent to the cheeseburger.

>>512835035
Thanks for affirming that, maybe there is hope for you after all

>>512834636
If it was simple, there wouldn't be so much discussion and disagreement amongst theologians about it. If it was biblical, there wouldn't need to be. I can understand it though, it's just silly and doesn't really serve any purpose

>>512835343
There’s not disagreement among theologians lmao. There are no Arians and haven’t been for like 1400 years

>>512828017
Correct Anon, we aren’t really capable of understanding the trinity. I would only add in your example that each entity is fully God and the DMPC has a separate trait that is fully human (or fully vulnerable).

>>512823416 (OP)
>I grew up catholic but the trinity was always such a stupid concept to me
sure thing, kike bro.
Three persons, one God.
You're supposed to just accept it and not be a fucking sparg saying you're smarter than God.
God the Father, creator of Heaven and Earth.
God the Son, the Word of God and Our Lord.
God the Holy Ghost. The spirit of God.

>>512835014
They poisoned arius and persecuted his followers. Stop lying.

>>512835410
>we aren’t really capable of understanding
SLAAAAVE MORAAAALITYYYYYY

>>512835410
I feel like I’m capable of understanding the trinity. I get that there are mysteries of the faith and all that but I just don’t see how the trinity is hard to understand

Matter has 3 forms. Space has 3 dimensions. Time consists of past, present, and future. The universe is made of matter time and space. If you see the pattern in nature then God created it in his image.

>>512835470
Lying mountain kike

>>512823416 (OP)
Genuinely made me laugh

>>512835532
This is a kike

>>512835642
This is a schizophrenic retard

>>512835566
And if mankind made it all up, and it wasn’t witnessed and extremely well documented, it would have been much simpler. I doubt even the most autistic of authors could conceive such a concept.

>>512823416 (OP)
Because it IS a stupid concept. The idea of the trinity is not religious in nature. During the reign of Emperor Constantine there were a number of Christian denominations and many great philosophers pondering over the nature of the Divinity. Amongst them were two locked in a power struggle for currying favor from Constantine: Archbishop Alexander and Arius.

Considering Archbishop Alexander eventually became "Pope Alexander I", you can guess who won that political struggle. But a consequence of their political squabble was the establishing of the Trinity so they could achieve political control over the other denominations. Now there was an official answer to the Divinity, not granted by heaven, but by exiling and poisoning Christians who refused to go along with it.

>>512835377
I dont think jehovahs witnesses believe in the trinity. And yes, the exact nature of the trinity is still discussed and has been a topic of debate since forever. The least complicated answer, whixh you may ascribe to, is that they are all God, and none of them are the other. And it doesn't need to make sense because it's an all powerful God. So 1 infinity + 1 infinity + 1 infinity = 1 infinity because it's all infinity.
But really, it just seems like an excuse to turn jews away from christianity by claiming Jesus is God. Its never made explicitly clear that they are one. I know he says they are one, but that could mean they are similar or they agree, or they are both part of something larger together. He never explains the trinity

>>512835826
This

>>512834172
>>512834421
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The Logos/The Word is a very basic Hermetic concept that is far older than Christianity, and it has nothing to do with Jesus. I can map out a side-by-side timeline showing how the idea of the Logos evolved from Hermes Trismegistus > Greek Philosophers > Kaballah > John

This is NOT pilpul.

>>512823416 (OP)
They grow up being told it. If you get told something enough times, you believe it. Also they're also taught that their god is a mystery, that they can't understand. It's built in for Christians to accept retarded shit.
You can show them the Neoplatism origins, and how Paul just lifted the concept, and they just don't care. It's official doctrine, so they just ignore anything that shows otherwise.

>>512836179
The Word is god because the Word is the "I am" self realization and pure consciousness that God is. And it is through this that creation happens, and through this divine reasoning that the universe has order.

>>512823416 (OP)
The trinity was invented to wave away plot holes. Same with angels.
>No one has seen God's face
What about when God visits Jacob and Jacob says he recognized God's face?
>Uh, that was an angel disguised as God
Where in the Bible does it say that?
>You must read between the lines. The Bible contains no errors.

>>512823416 (OP)
Even though we aren’t able to fully comprehend it, it makes perfect sense to me. Water’s subliminal states are a good analogy for how God can exist in three persons, but be the one God. Also the “Trinity” is necessary because God is logical and perfect within Himself, He is actually in perfect communion within the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Without that arrangement God would “need” something. It’s perfection. Impossible to completely pinpoint but very easy to actually grasp.

>>512836298
>I am
Am I, though?

>>512836372
Foolish man. “Jacob” died that day and in his place was created Israel. Literally.

>>512835826
Christians will reject this truth.

>>512836676
Was this before of after God wrestled with him for hours and grabbed his balls to end the match?

>>512835262
>it would be blasphemy to reject the pickle and demand my cheeseburger because the pickle is equivalent to the cheeseburger.
Yes, because in this case we're talking about the absolute doctrine of God, your creator, and not a fast food order that can be customized. Big difference. You can't just have spiritual reality customized your way like a McDonald's burger.
Yes, the holy trinity is like a cheeseburger, in that all the ingredients of the burger make up the burger itself, but it's unlike a burger in that you can't customize this truth to your liking.

>>512836372
>No one has seen God's face
This isn't mutually exclusive with recognizing it.

>>512823567
i mean at least the muslims think jesus was a good dude. they probably wouldnt have killed him unlike you kike. also. if god created everything he can make himself a person.

>>512836830
>you can recognize something without seeing it
Got to love Christian mental gymnastics.

Prove that they *really* believe this. Religion makes more sense when you realize nobody actually has positive knowledge of "truly believing" in Christ.

>>512823416 (OP)
>watch science fiction movie
>aliens have hive mind
>"oh, ok, I get it"
>learn about religion
>3 gods have the same mind
>"WHAAAAAAAAT THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE AAAAAAA HOW COULD SOMEONE BELIIIIEEEVE THIS???"

>2+ billion people
>i grew up catholic
>but now i spam anti-christianity on /pol/
learn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to OPs like this. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same globohomo agenda that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them

>>512837152
I would say all those abrahamic religions are very vengeful.

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less qualified than the others

pajeets have been transplanted all over the world in unbelievable numbers. the plan is to homogenize all countries into a single mass of interchangeable, predictable, suggestible consumers whose only loyalty is to the elite and their system of puppetry. motivated not by heritage or ideology (despite all portrayals to the contrary), but by paltry shares of wealth and status in a materialistic world order in which everyone belongs equally everywhere and nowhere

>>512837207
Your only recourse to any slight criticism is to assume that the opposition is brown for no reason, while at the same time openly admitting that you worship a jew.

There is only one God. The whole Jesus thing is a rehash of older stories like Hercules and Gilgamesh. A familiar character to appeal to the Roman.

pajeets should be posting on bharatchan and living on the subcontinent

>>512837284
i don't worship anything, pajeet. do you think you're doing something original? search 4plebs for my filenames and pastas. you're one cheap outsourced minion in an endless line

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

all pajeets are working for jews, including the ones who perform antisemitism and say all the things they learned to say on /pol/. they are also serving the jew agenda. how? by speaking english and living in everyone else's countries. spectre, multiculturalism, mass migration, kalergi plan. don't even bother acting like pajeets oppose jews in any way. they support jews simply by their nature, by crowding into every opening gatekeepers offer them to enter the west and degrade it

>>512823416 (OP)
Christian thought is badly mistranslated truth that the beings that took over dumped on us.

Closest truth to reality is the trinity exists as

>>512837491
you're one step away from being called a pajeet and you know it lol

512837409

>>512826817
>The prophesized messiah was meant to be a mortal man. Not God.
Is that true?
>For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
https://biblehub.com/isaiah/9-6.htm

if you don't want to be identified as a pajeet, which i know you don't, then don't pollute the board with pajeet noises and pajeet smells. can you manage that?

>>512837152
>>3 gods have the same mind
That's not what the trinity means. That goes against the Hypostatic Union nonsense of Jesus being 100% divine(YHWH) and 100% man.

>>512828238
>The trinity appears nowhere in the bible
Did you read Genisis 1:1 and thought you'd read enough to make that opinion?
>And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
https://biblehub.com/genesis/1-2.htm

>>512824901
>this trinity were true to the teachings of Jesus, the Christ would have spoke of this
Am I the only one who's read the Bible? Even as an intellectual study?
>Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
https://biblehub.com/matthew/28-19.htm

>>512827485
They sought to stone him because he called himself Gods name.
I AM.

>>512837516
Hey ya know what a hippie says when you ask him to leave

i don't need to worry about chipping away at the foundational culture of the new world because i am a product of that culture, whether i continue ancestral religious practices or not, i already belong here.
pajeets on the other hand, they have the same problem as jews when they want to infiltrate amalek. too much homogeneous christendom makes it hard to poo and jew everything up.
solution: multiculturalism, globalism, post-nationalism. make every place the same standard issue assortment of diversity. that way, who can argue what belongs or not? clearly everything belongs, and nothing is sacred

>>512823416 (OP)
you can tell OP is a jew because the concept of three points being an immutable, undestroyable shape confuses him, so his ancestors had to double it up, even though the hexagon is one of the least stable shapes out there. That's also why the Star of Remphan is the stacked triangles and not just a regular-ass hexagon.

Christianity came first. Talmudic Rabbis stole the holy number 3 like they stole all of Babylon's polytheism.

do you qualify for the 8/8 gr8 club?
>you are 8/8 gr8 if all eight of your great-grandparents were born in the country indicated by your flag.
join today and receive your free decoder ring!

even more anons can be in the 4/4 b4 club:
>you are 4/4 b4 if all four of your grandparents were born in the country indicated by your flag.
still pretty good. that's a start. your kids might be 8/8 if you play your genes right.

>a-ok! so then what about the 2/2 too club? what do we get if both parents were born here?
you get to keep earning your citizenship. one or more of your grandparents were immigrants. that might have been novel and cool in moderation in the 20th century, but now it just means kalergi replacement. your family should be audited for merit and kept on homeland security probation until the immigrant generation passes.

>why are grandparents the cutoff?
because most people grow up with their grandparents as elder archetypes, the living representation of their ancestry and belonging in a territory. if your grandparents came from somewhere else, you share a definitive disconnect with them as your living roots trail far away with divided memories, sensibilities and loyalties.
if you're only concerned with relatives born in your present country, then you stand to gain nothing by dismantling its foundational culture, and there's no question as to where you belong. only immigrants and their orchestrators might benefit from new societal compromises in the name of multiculturalism and DEI.

>>512830194
>Aryan woman
In Palestine?

>>512837626
>>512837714
>>512837778
None of those say that they're the exact same person at the same time. That's just your interpretation.

>>512837549
NAMASTE

>>512823416 (OP)
You’ll have all of eternity to wrap your mind around it

>>51283807
Who do the titles "The mighty God, The everlasting Father" belong to.

Take your time.
Tell me it's Hezekiah, I know you want to.

>>512826405
Go back to Israel

>>512837626
>Is that true?
Yes. He's supposed to be the Kike King on the throne of David, bring eternal world peace, reunite all the exiled Jews, make all the other nations around Israel super jealous that they have the real god, continuing doing Levitican sacrifices, the messiah would sin, the Laws of Moses would be written on everyone's hearts. There's some more, but I forget.
There's a bunch of prophecies in the Old Testament that are very clear about what the messiah is supposed to do. Jesus did none of them, and when the Christians are confronted with this, they just say "Jesus will complete them, when he gets back".
The Kikes were right, when they said that Jesus isn't the messiah, but Christians don't actually the OT, and the few that do just follow what the apologetics say to cope with the fact that Jesus was a failure, and is worm food.
Don't think that I'm a Jew, their religion is full of failed prophecies that will never come true. Religions are all fake shit used to cope with life sucking and to make people feel good about death.

>>512838061
namaste, fren
om kreem kalike svaha

>>512837293
John 1:1-4 NIV
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] He was with God in the beginning. [3] Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. [4] In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.

>>512838162
so the pajeets are done hiding now? cool
let's do this thread like it should be done

>>512838139
Jesus did fulfil the prophets.

Those promises were either fulfilled for Christian Europe, or not at all. Without the New Testament, the Old Testament is just a book of broken promises. That's why jews hate European Christians so much, because what Jesus said would happen would happen.

Their inheritance was taken from them and given to us.

>>512838191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XGicWgZro

Motherfuck the big three, nigga it's just big me

>>512823416 (OP)
There is a being beyond time and space, the prime mover, who started time and created matter from nothing. He seeded all things into the womb of the void This is God.
This God permeates every iota of creation and exists within every moment, this is The Holy Spirit.
This God manifested and evoked himself onto the physical plane in the form of an Avatar to offer Himself up for the forgiveness of our wickedness, and as bridge between the material and immaterial modes of existence, showing us a path to rejoin with God.

It's really not that difficult of a concept to grasp and is an effective cosmological theology.

>>512837714
>https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=gen%201%3A2&version=NRSVUE
>2 the earth was complete chaos, and darkness covered the face of the deep, while a wind from God[a] swept over the face of the waters.
>Footnotes
>[a] 1.2 Or while the spirit of God or while a mighty wind
Doesn't seem to say what you think it does. Good translations show the semantic range of key words being translated.

>>512838139
>>512838241
>Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/21-43.htm

Promises made.
Promises kept.

>>512838211
I'm a white goy

>>512838369
no white people are derived from the south asian subcontinent. white people are of the western world, of european tradition and ancestry (aka christendom). white people explored, colonized and uplifted the world's straggling diversity into a modern age. meanwhile pajeets waited centuries for the next superior outsiders to give them purpose and identity.

"aryans" were an ancient example of white people, and they no longer exist in that form. there is no "indo-european" anything worth mentioning. the modern pajeet is a degraded copy of a copy of an ancient aryan's slave, long abandoned to his own primitive devices. a more recent example of abandoned pajeet slaves, this time far from home, are the gypsies in europe.

it would seem that the distasteful business of slavery may have evolved to meet the needs of the slaves themselves. what if specific cultures of humanity are natural and organic slaves, and to deprive them of their god-given role in life can only result in corruptions? what if freedom is only a mind-bending poison to these poor souls, and separates them from instinctive happiness? then what has been done to so many? what cruelty has this been, raising them up to stand as peers and rivals to anyone?

>>512838315
The word used is
וְר֣וּחַ
(wə·rū·aḥ)

My fellow Bible scholar.
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/strongs_7307.htm

>>512838241
>WE

>>512837278
argentina https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZo0tBBwxdk
bulgaria https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTLYBY1kd20
chile https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ug9SEBpCDA
croatia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84AA99ZMSgs
finland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBZrlFh-s2M
greece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6La80gdmG4w
guatemala https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIgeTowc-U
honduras https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-XZRVyL1WM
hungary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeR_FLtAls0
ireland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMFLt_kwa7U
japan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3RQ1ykyLzs
korea (worst) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3ucPOUgqcA
latvia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWc_3tPrKfI
lebanon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEQEXbU9S4I
macedonia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZiPqZ9QQ_I
moldova https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj0BnP-y9rA
montenegro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY5QYq-QTwA
peru https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqA-ICZamvQ
poland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dYWkJzo25s
slovakia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XGicWgZro
slovenia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjwdCFv2ktI
switzerland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_7hrsNVYuU
vietnam https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F13b0iE6b0
>try it yourself: youtube search "indian immigration to [name any country]"

>>512838451
Can you read?

>Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/21-43.htm

What does "The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof" mean?
It's pretty clear right?

>>512838241
>Jesus did fulfil the prophets
He didn't.
>Those promises were either fulfilled for Christian Europe, or not at all.
They were prophecies, from YHWH, through the prophets. Exactly how the OT says that prophecies are to be given. Not in types and shadows.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=deu%2018&version=NRSVUE
>Christian Europe
That's some nonsense that your denomination twisted Daniel to mean. The final empire in Daniel, is Greece. You don't know your history very well. Whatever your understanding of Daniel is, it's completely made-up coping nonsense.

>>512823416 (OP)
>How do 2+ billion people believe that trinity is One God?

Because it all derives from the original idea of nature as a duality of force and counter-force that together yield a third resultant net force, and that is the third part of the "trinity"

Go back to ancient Egypt, where you had the three-part trinity of the father, Osiris, the mother, Isis, and the resultant son-child, Horus

Then fast-forward to Hegel, whose "dialectic" is really force, counter-force, and then resultant force. These are officially labeled as "thesis", "anti-thesis", and then the resultant "syn-thesis".

But it's really all just semantics, this difference between duality and trinity, as to whether or not we include the resultant net force as part of the system. If we don't, it's "duality"; if we do, it's "trinity".

In the Asian nations, for example, they do not include the net resultant force, and so they have their system of dualism which is the Yin and Yang tai chi system called "Taoism".

Do you get it now?

>>512838162
om mani padme hum

>>512838334
>Let's ignore all the prophecies from YHWH, that are supposed to tell you how to identify the messiah.
>Let's just presuppose that Jesus is the messiah, even though he did nothing.
>Let's write down after Jesus' death, that the Christians were right for no reason.
There's no promises made or kept, because Matthew was written after Jesus died. You can't use that as a prophecy to justify Jesus being the messiah.

>>512838508
You're right, that definitely proves that White people are the true Israel. We would be nothing but stupid monkey gentiles without the blessings of the seed of abram.

DAS RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE

>>512837888
you can start adjusting your life in the knowledge that your country (every country) will soon be immersed in the same crab bucket of stifling cheapness, dishonesty and low trust that all these immigrants left behind. start caring now and you may not be overwhelmed later.
remember their population is maliciously under-reported. sheer numbers are the entire foundation of their "strategy" and they have enough undocumented surplus bodies to match/neutralize the populations of all western countries (democracies) with globohomo agenda foot soldiers

>>512838211
>child of God
>sacrificial lamb
>commemorated by mock ritual cannibalism

Oh and blah blah saturn something something anointed one blah blah Kaneh bos something something man does not live by breath alone by by him in whom is the power of breath something something baby body parts turned into cosmetics for Oprah

>>512838513
At first you were like
>God promised his people would conquer the word.
Then I pointed out that it was Christian Europe that conquered the world.
Now you're like.
>That doesn't matter.

I'm not taking Daniel out of context, and I could if you like. Read again.

>Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/21-43.htm

Tell me what that means.

>>512838410
>european tradition and ancestry (aka christendom)

>>512823416 (OP)
Mom, Dad, and Me.

>>512838447
Strong's Concordance isn't a dictionary. It's how the word gets used elsewhere in the Bible. That's not how to tell what a word actually means.

>>512838638
>Let's ignore all the prophecies from YHWH, that are supposed to tell you how to identify the messiah.
No let's flesh them out, my fellow Bible scholar.

Isaiah 9:6-7.

Me, my wife, and my kid.

>>512838657
>I can't read.

k.

Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.
https://biblehub.com/matthew/21-43.htm

It means that the kingdom of God was taken from the jews and given to another nation that bears its fruits.

Objectively Europe.

>>512838556
https://youtu.be/8t-iFr9q1I8?

>>512823546
That's called modalism and it's a heresy.

>>512838761
Right, we have translations for that.
This is a silly hill to die on.

>>512838727
>>God promised his people would conquer the word.
No I wasn't. You must suck at reading what I said.
>Then I pointed out that it was Christian Europe that conquered the world.
That was never the prophecy for the messiah. I've seen Christians try to twist Daniel to say really stupid things, but this "European Empire" is one of the dumbest.
I never said it doesn't matter. I said that your understanding of Daniel is ahistoric and ignores the entire context. You're probably a Protestant, which is why you don't know that Daniel's prophecies are resolved in Maccabees.
>Tell me what that means.
It means that the author of Matthew was coping with the fact that Jesus didn't fulfil any of the prophecies about the messiah. So he wrote that it's no longer about the Jews, because otherwise he'd have to accept that he followed a false god, and get stoned to death.

>>512839021
Tell me Isaiah 9:6-7 is about Hezekiah.
Go on.

>>512838836
Sorry bud, I'm just an illiterate barbarian who chases pigs through the woods of Germany. I need a jewish man to teach me everything about reality and how to most effectively slurp on nigger toes, yummy yummy!
>>512838838
A man of culture in this land of Nod

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7W_XW7FQpEg

>>512838727
You’re arguing with a reprobate.

>>512838783
>Isaiah 9:6-7.
Jesus never sat on the Throne of David and there isn't endless peace. There wasn't even a little bit of peace.
Did you even read that prophecy? The Throne of David is a literal thing in Israel. Not the "spiritual throne" that you're going to say it means.

>>512823416 (OP)
the roman catholic heterodox trinity makes no sense because it contains filioque, goes against scripture, appeals to post schism philosophy that starts with relations of opposition rather than relations of orgin. the church always taught monarachal trinitarian doctrine as seen in the original nicene creed written by the cappadocian fathers. starting with god the father, "i believe in one god, father almighty, creator of heaven and earth". if you actually look this stuff up it's not that complicated from the orthodox christian paradigm, the only true and authentic christian paradigm (worldview, ethics, epistomology). also key evidence for what i'm saying is that that rome was out of communion during the second ecumenical council that finalized the nicene creed, only later submitting to it hundreds of years later. but papalism would have you believe a completely false alternate history about the church in the first 1,000 years. there were make pre schism heretical roman popes (there's 3 popes, petrine sees, they ignore the other 2). the cappadocians who talked about catholicity meant the greek sense of the word, that is, fullness of the faith/truth. roman pope agatho during the 6th council stated "whoever makes changes to the creed, let them be anathema" in relation to the frankish advent of the filioque. the orthodox church is the only church that still does the anathema service. since the great schism rome today now promotes "abrahamic faith centers" amongst a multitude of wacky post schism innovations that are departures from the faith. an orthodox christian would tell you that there's only one authentic abrahamic faith and it's them, the rest or heretical. inb4 rc chimp out trying to say matthew 16, read matthew 18:18. you guys are so blind to what scripture says but that checks out as it's a closed book to you.

>>512839105
>Jesus never sat on the Throne of David
David reigned as King of Israel for 40 years.

Jesus has reigned for 2000 and counting. It's the fulfillment of the promise that a Son of David will always be King.

Isaiah 9:6 calls Jesus the prince of Peace, and The mighty God, The everlasting Father. You still have to tell me it's about Hezekiah. Go on then.

y'all like religious tunes?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tV0TbFbPqA&t=22

there's a jeet goin' round, fakin' names
and he sees every system as a game
everybody will be jeeted all the same
there'll be a ruined river runnin' down
when pajeet comes around

the hairs in your nose will burn up
at the terror in each sniff and in each snuff
will you partake from this street vendor's cup
then run away in search of shittin' ground?
when pajeet comes around

hear the car horns, hear the scammers
one thousand million aunties singin'
multitudes will migrate to the big jewish drum
voices callin', voices lyin'
birthin' faster than they're dyin'
it's elon and kalergi's kingdom come

and the girls in bbc porn see
the incels are all gripping their dicks
the girls in bbc porn see
it's hard to stand apart from most netflix

'til karma catches up, do not redeem
things may not be as hopeless as they seem
a dalit can achieve his every dream
the tunnel brahmins will be safe and sound
when pajeet comes around

whoever is pajeet, let him be something else
whoever can detect pajeet, remove his sense of smell
whoever shall redeem pajeet, let jannies ban him well
listen to me saar, the world is clown
when pajeet comes around

>>512823416 (OP)
Maybe they were trying to describe higher concepts like quantum mechanics - neutron, proton and electron?

>>512831188
The books of the Bible can be found throughout earlier groups including the Sumerians and Egyptians

>>512839053
"Hinduism" really shouldn't be considered one religion.

>>512839548
Monotheists have single digit IQs, give them time

>>512839627
You're not even trying to pretend you aren't Indian.

Who hired you?

>>512839062
You seem to already know what the scholars say, so why are you asking me to explain it to you?
>>512839275
>Jesus has reigned for 2000 and counting
As I said, the messiah was supposed to reign on the literal Throne of David, in literal Israel. Have you not read the other OT prophets? They're all saying the same thing. None say or imply "Spiritual King in Heaven". Jesus was never the King of Israel. He failed that prophecy. He never brought peace to Israel, let alone the entire world. Double failed.
>You still have to tell me it's about Hezekiah. Go on then.
You already know what the scholars say. You clearly disagree with them. So there's no point.

>>512839740
>the messiah was supposed to reign on the literal Throne of David, in literal Israel.
Forever?

What kind of a man can do that?

>>512839708
Your only cope is to pretend that I'm indian. You freely admit to worshiping a jew and obsessing over jewish words and books.

>>512839740
>>You still have to tell me it's about Hezekiah. Go on then.
>You already know what the scholars say
The Jewish Bible scholars say its about Hezekiah. Do you think Hezekiah is the God of the Jews?

>>512823416 (OP)
2+ billion people are retards.
/thread

>>512839815
I've actually been tearing apart your arguments with scripture.

You still won't sat that you think Isaiah 9:6 is about Hezekiah, you still won't say you believe Hezekiah is The mighty God, The everlasting Father.

Why not?
Why are you afraid to say it?

I almost died a month ago and now everything feels weird and nobody cares.

>>512823416 (OP)
I just amerisharted

>>512839879
You really showed me, by obsessing over jews and wanting to emulate them in every way, you're right. Keep quoting jews, kang.

>>512839972
figures as much

right in the street in front of everyone, right saar?

>>512839984
>I'm too afraid to say Hezekiah is The mighty God, The everlasting Father.

Don't be afraid to say what you believe anon.

>>512839794
>Forever?
No. That was never a prophecy. Are you confusing Throne of David, as meaning that it'd literally be King David? Because it's not. It's always meant that it's from the bloodline of King David.
Which is another good point. Both genealogies of Jesus go through Joseph. Which isn't his bloodline, and only his adopted father.
>What kind of a man can do that?
None, because the messiah was never supposed to live forever. Did you read the OT or just the NT?
>>512839827
>The Jewish Bible scholars say its about Hezekiah.
The Oxford Bible Commentary agrees with it being thought of as Hezekiah. Glad you think you know better than the people who dedicate their lives to understanding every detail of the book.
>Do you think Hezekiah is the God of the Jews?
No. It was never supposed to be a divine being as the messiah. You're forcing your NT understanding onto the OT. Stop reading it backwards. Read to forwards. The prophecies are supposed to show the evidence of the messiah. You already started with your conclusion that Jesus is the messiah.
I don't even think that Hezekiah fulfilled the prophecy, if that's what you're going to ask next.

>>512839879
bro, nobody cares about your scriptures
imagine how you would feel if some Guatemalan said the Bible wasn't true by citing the Popul Vuh

>>512840033
>Forever?
>No.

Are you quite sure you can read?
You're not just being dishonest are you anon?

>7Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

>>512840033
>>Do you think Hezekiah is the God of the Jews?
No.

So then Isaiah 9:6-7 can't possibly be about Hezekiah. As Hezekiah isn't The mighty God, The everlasting Father.

>>512840075
>Popul Vuh
Who?

>>512840024
Strawman, you so badly want me to be a jew, yet you're the one who is literally larping as the "true jew" all day.

At least you didn't call me indian.

>>512823416 (OP)
Be nice, don't blaspheme.

>>512840199
Yes, that was the point

>>512840208
Isaiah 9:6 is about the mighty God, The everlasting Father.

You can't have your cake and eat it too.

>>512840253
Everyone has heard of Jesus, from the least of us to the greatest of us.

Promises made, promises kept.

>>512840247
Don't speak to me of blapshemy, man. I would strike the sun if it insulted me!
>>512840277
k jew

>>512823416 (OP)
>>512823416 (OP)
For same reason said 2+ billion took the vax, they are not real people, they are real life npc

>>512840108
You can't understand. It's that there will always be someone from the bloodline of King David to sit on the Throne of David. Have you actually read the rest of the OT prophecies, because it really seems like you've been told which parts are supposed to be about Jesus, without understanding the other prophecies.
>>512840160
>So then Isaiah 9:6-7 can't possibly be about Hezekiah. As Hezekiah isn't The mighty God, The everlasting Father.
I did. Can you not read? I said I didn't think that it was fulfilled in Hezekiah. I also told you that you're reading the backwards. You're forcing your NT understanding onto the OT text. You gotta stop that.
>>512840277
It's saying that YHWH is going to do stuff, but it's not about YHWH/Jesus as the main character. The main character is the messiah. I really don't think you're ready for this conversation. You're trying to argue from dogma and doctrine, while I'm arguing from scholarship and history.
I know, I know. Christians believe that "words don't mean words", and you can just ignore all the context, make up new meanings for things, and pretend that it's what it always meant.

>>512840300
Everyone's heard of Batman too. So what.

>>512840333
>I'm out of arguments.
OK, good talk.

>>512840433
>It's that there will always be someone from the bloodline of King David to sit on the Throne of David.
If it's not Jesus that promise was broken.
Objectively, there is no one else.

Isaiah 9:6 calls a human child that will be born "The mighty God, The everlasting Father." If it's not Jesus, then it's another broken promise.

There is no one else.

>>512840442
Not everyone.

>>512840443
>I quoted a jew enough times, therefore I WIN

>>512823416 (OP)
Nigger

>>512840567
At first you thought you're knowledge of the Bible was better than mine. Now you realise that it's not you've abandoned using scripture and instead say I've been quoting a jew when I quote the Bible, forgetting you started off quoting the Bible until I rebuked you.

>>512823416 (OP)
>Christianity is polytheistic and no cope can save you
Yup yup, religious nutcases are fucked

>>512823546
Patriiick, that's heresy!

>>512840622
I know a lot about the Bible, to the point where I realize that it's all bullshit and arguing about it is of no consequence. I just get a kick out of insulting christcuck retards who pretend to be kikes. It's an indulgent sin and a necessary service to the world.

>>512840565
Not everyone's heard of Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef either.

>>512840861
That's where you're wrong kiddo.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Allen_Chau

>>512835962
>So 1 infinity + 1 infinity + 1 infinity = 1 infinity because it's all infinity.
That isn't true in a metaphorical or mathematical sense.

>>512840858
>I know a lot about the Bible
You could have fooled me.

I first read the Bible to better argue with Christians. Maybe you should too.

>>512840533
>If it's not Jesus that promise was broken.
Correct. The OT, like the NT, are made up nonsense from people 2000-2500 years ago. It's not real, anon. Christianity and Judaism are false, like all religions.
>Objectively, there is no one else.
That's not true at all. It didn't have to be Jesus. There's actually no reason to think it was Jesus, unless you start with the assumption that Jesus is already the messiah.
You haven't actually read the other OT prophecies. You should really do that, and then be honest with the text/yourself. Accept that Jesus didn't actually fulfil the prophecies and can't be the messiah.
Jesus was never the King of Israel, he never created world peace, he never reunited the Jews, etc. Stop reading the NT, and start with the OT.
>There is no one else.
You've already decided that Jesus is the messiah, without looking at the OT prophecies that the messiah was supposed to fulfil. You started with the conclusion of "Jesus is the messiah", and then you're going "It has to be about him, so I'll ignore everything, and force my very narrow understanding of the OT prophecies onto selected lines of text, and ignore the context of the verses.
It's just a failed prophecy. At best, you could say that it's yet to be completed. But since Jesus was worm food 2000ish years ago, it's not going to be completed in him. At best, you could say that it's about a yet to exist messiah, but you can't do that as a Christian either.
You're stuck in this "cognitive dissonance". Where you can't accept the obvious reality of the situation, while forcing yourself to believe in Jesus being the messiah anyways.

It's just a failed prophecy, because the book isn't true, the religion is false, and no god exists.

>>512840920
>mathematical sense.
What is infinite divided by three?
Mathematically.

>>512840903
He didn't exactly get a lot of talking in

>>512840963
>At best, you could say that it's about a yet to exist messiah
Oh no no no no.
>The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.


You really don't have much knowledge of the Bible. That's fine, you don't have to.

>>512841021
>Actually I knew that the sentinelese have heard the name of Jesus but I was hoping you hadn't.
Here's to hoping.

>>512826895
Everyone has a favorite child

>>512835598
>Matter has 3 forms
no lmao
>Space has 3 dimensions
what even is spacetime
>Time consists of past, present, and future.
Time is an abstraction. It doesn't consist of anything except other abstractions.
>The universe is made of matter time and space
Matter is also an abstraction of energy and waves. Where do you uneducated pseuds come from?

>>512841074
Wait, so it's literally just hearing someone utter two syllables from another language that you don't understand? That's all it takes, without any context, and suddenly you're damned to hell forever?
What the fuck, YHWH

>>512840935
It's just more fun to fuck with them because you always just resort to "y-you're brown" or accusing me of being literally Satan, which I consider to be a compliment at this point.

>>512841219
No it's about how everyone, from the least of us to the greatest of us know the name of The Lord.

>>512841242
You think the pentagram belongs to Satan? Why is the satanic pentagram inverted?

>>512841251
There are other primitive tribes out there, anon.
Better get a canoe.

>>512823416 (OP)
How is it any more unbelievable than any of the rest of it?

>>512841290
All things belong to the Dark Lord

>>512823416 (OP)
https://warosu.org/lit/thread/24572322

>>512841396
what is this, a bird for ants

>>512841031
So you're just accepting that I'm right about everything that you don't reply to? Cool. I'm glad that I'm destroying you in this.
>Oh no no no no.
Yes, that's how you can deal with it.
I'm perfectly fine saying that it's all fake and made up, so none will come true.
>The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
First, there's no prophecies in Genesis. At all. So stop trying to twist Genesis into it.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%2018&version=NRSVUE
We've been over this already. There's no such thing as types and shadows. When YHWH is saying something prophetic, it's through a prophet.
Now, as for what the verse is about, it's not about the messiah(picrel). That's just some cope that you have to say, when you have nothing else.
Not that I ever said that goes against Genesis 49:10, as there's no reason to think that Jesus is the message. You're just trying to retcon everything in the OT to be a type or shadow about Jesus.
You've already decided that everything has to be about Jesus, rather than seeing that the evidence doesn't support it. So you're trying to force it to mean what you want it to, with no actual basis. Just dogma.

>>512841635
>as there's no reason to think that Jesus is the messiah.
Whoops. I should have reread that, before sending. Don't get hung up on me saying "message".

>>512841631
Tricksy birb >;D