Thread 512823822

There was a guy here posting about how popular films and media are thematically an inversion of the Biblical narrative, namely with God and/ or Christ as the villain and Lucifer/ Satan/ Azazel as the hero. For example, Khan in Star Trek has 12 apostles and 72 disciples, just like Jesus.
Where can I find more about this online for many other media and also specifically for the Truman Show?

>media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0
>lol

>shilling jew cults
Shalom rabbi

You should ask Chat GPT or Claude or Grok. they'd have as good a database as anyone

>>512823822 (OP)
KJOsborn on Rumble makes videos about that on the regular.

>>512823822 (OP)
>For example, Khan in Star Trek has 12 apostles and 72 disciples, just like Jesus.
Khan is not a Jesus figure at all. He's explicitly compared to Satan and to figures like Ahab.

>>512823980
That’s why there’s an inversion.

>>512824247
What makes Khan similar to Jesus, aside from having followers?

>>512823822 (OP)

EPSTEIN

>>512824354
You could say God genetically engineered Jesus in Mary's womb.

>>512824354
It’s the specific number of those followers that stands out.

>>512824431
The fact that he's a product of eugenics and he has followers is enough to make him a Jesus figure? Seems like a reach to me. Khan is sort of an unsympathetic parody of Nietzsche's Ubermensch with (in the movie) some Ahab sprinkled in. He's an aristocrat who worships ambition and who uses force to dominate the weak. He's totally unlike Jesus aside from the superficial features that have been pointed out. Khan is a latter-day Romantic figure.

>>512824619
This is only partially true. There were 72 other eugenics supermen alive in the "Space Seed" episode, which coincides with the total number of Jesus's disciples according to some traditions. However, at least according to the Star Trek Wiki, there were 52 of Khan's followers alive when the Reliant showed up on Ceti Alpha V. I don't see any basis for claiming that Khan had "12 apostles."

>>512823822 (OP)
God

>>512823980
Ahab was Based and written as an intentional antichrist figure.

Some antichristian characters aren't created by jews, sometimes they're written by Whites who want to take a crack at the big J in earnest.

>>512823822 (OP)
It's a mystery what he looks like behind the mask.

He doesn't get reincarnated, he passes down his genes.

He doesn't create humanity, he domesticates humans.

There is no heaven but the the altai mountains were the inspiration for heaven.

>>512825387
Serpent = DNA (unbroken lineage) symbolism, that's why it's the bad guy in the Bible. Only jews are allowed to find holiness in their ancestry, goy. You're just the soulless shells that get grafted in.

>>512825639
The bronze serpent, also known as Nehushtan, is a biblical symbol found in Numbers 21:4-9. It refers to a bronze serpent on a pole that Moses erected at God's command to heal Israelites bitten by fiery serpents as punishment for their complaints. This story is significant in both Jewish and Christian traditions.

>>512825174
Then I was mistaken on the 12 apostles part, but what else would the 72 symbolise? I doubt 72 virgins.

>>512825971
Meh, that one is more symbolic of the tradition of metallurgy that the hebrews had to re-learn in order to survive in the wilderness. They would build large fires without forges and it would burn them, hence the "burning bite" of the snakes, which could only be cured by constructing a forge, which would "cure" them since it would stop the sparks from flying up and nipping them. The reason that a serpent was chosen as a symbol is because it represents an unbroken lineage of blacksmithing knowledge that would be passed down from generation to generation. The Nehushtan was eventually destroyed at a much later date in the Bible, which represents the jew king having to put down some uppity blacksmith unions demanding better working conditions.

There is a similar Norse myth where Loki takes the form of a fly and burns the hands of dwarven blacksmiths, Loki being heavily associated with fire and the forge.

>>512825598
Stop talking in riddles.

>>512825499
Biblical Ahab, not the Pequod's captain (although the latter is inspired by the former)

>>512825971
>God's people wpuld need to put faith in something raised up on a pole in order to be saved from the consequences of their sin
>"I wonder what this could be referencing"

Al-Fātiḥah, is not only the centerpiece of daily prayer but also carries a mathematically verifiable 19-based structure — a seal embedded in verse counts, letter counts, and gematrical values. That structure is not decorative; it signals authorship beyond human capacity and serves as the “key” to the Qur’an’s integrity.

Surah An-Naml 27:82 points to a specific moment: when disbelief in God’s signs has become entrenched, a “creature from the earth” (dābbah) will emerge to speak to humanity. In the context of the 19-based system, this verse reads less like metaphor and more like a prophetic marker: the numerical seal provides the credentials, the dābbah delivers the message.

The shorter surahs — Al-Asr, Al-Humazah, and Al-Fil — act as thematic reinforcement. Al-Asr warns that time is running out, salvation tied to truth and perseverance. Al-Humazah condemns slander and material arrogance, the same traits that blind people to divine signs. Al-Fil recalls God’s direct intervention against an overwhelming threat, underscoring that divine will overrides worldly power.

>>512828807
DID YOU HEAR HOW HIS MOTHER BIRTHED HIM, TURNED FROM HIM, GAVE HIM HIS EVIL NAME AND THEN DIED IN THE SAME HOUR? DID YOU HEAR HOW HE SPAT IN THE HOLY GOBLET OF BALPORISO? DID YOU HEAR HOW GOD'S LIGHTNING STRUCK DOWN UPON HIM, MARKING HIM ON THE INSIDE AS WELL AS OUT?

WHO KNOWS ABOUT IT, NOT MANY I GUESS, HOW COULD THEY!?!?!?