Thread 512824328

It was celebrated by Nato sphere as a genius military move but it got memory holed after the ukraininas got defeated and lost their best mechanized units.
If they would still have those units they could easily counterattack the Russian breakthrough which is threatening to FLANK THEIR MAIN DEFENSIVE LINES LMAO.

>>512824328 (OP)
Good serb, you have earned my cum today

>>512824752
fuck off libtard

>>512824328 (OP)
Ukranians are already saying this is a win for them.

Remember when you decided to kill yourself

>>512825132
Take off your meme flag homo.

>>512825132
BAHAHAHA get a load of this butthurt faggot hiding behind a nazi flag

>>512824328 (OP)
If only they didn't fall for the Parthian shot

>>512825472
>>512825477
>t. Shitskins

>>512824328 (OP)
Z.

>spends like half a month making "shh" posts and memes.
>Shitpost about how we got the Leopold 2 now.
>Throw like, 8 tanks and APCs Into a suicide charge.
>Gets destroyed.


Kek.

Holding the main eastern defense line was never our objective. Pokrovsk was not important, we only defended it with everything we had to troll Russia lmao.
We didn't want Eastern Ukraine anyway. 1 in 20 Ukrainian soldiers have successfully evacuated Pokrovsk. Putler failed in his objective to genocide every Ukrainian. Mission Successful: the defense of Pokrovks is complete. Glory to the Ukrainian heroes!

>>512824328 (OP)
remember when the Ukrainians made a cinematic trailer for the spring offensive?

>>512826081
>>512826337
Kursk was a much bigger disaster for Ukraine.
They lost a lot of men and equipment with the spring (delayed to summer) offensive, but at that point they could afford the loss. With Kursk they had to pull off squads from the eastern front and went all in. Not only they failed there, they weakened every other front and that's when Russia started gaining ground quickly. They didn't expect the Koreans, and with their help Russia could take back Kursk without having to pause its offense in Ukraine.

>>512824328 (OP)
the plan was to swap ukraines wins up north for some land down south. They never got enough to make it possible

>>512825793
Is this you, Mykola?

>>512824328 (OP)
Why doesn't Ukraine just do another counteroffensive?

>>512824328 (OP)
Lol I remember the nafo troons were so smug about that little kursk invasion
>Never interrupt your enemy while they're making a mistake
That's the reason why those faggots lose They fight for optics rather than anything pragmatic

>>512824328 (OP)
I knew sooner or later they'd break through. Meatwave tactics are literally about throwing a lot of shit at the wall until something sticks.

>>512826910
I'm still baffled by why the Ukrainians - who were originally trained in Soviet tactics - thought that occupying territory in Russia would have any kind of psychological effect when the fundamental military strategy of that nation since 1812 and even more emphatically in 1941 is to give up as much ground as necessary to allow attackers to overstretch themselves.

>>512826936
That's also NAFO fake propaganda. Russia doesn't do meat waves.
They send small 2-4 men squads to scout ahead, then call in artillery spam and glide bombs until there's nothing left.

Ukrainesisters, it might be ovyir.

>>512826936
with all the drone footage the Ukrainians release how come there isn't a single one of a massed infantry charge? seems like it'd be easy if the Russians do them all the time

>>512826936
>>512827126

Like the anon said ''meatwave'' is a made up propaganda term from Nato.What Russia is doing is using heavy firepower to attrit a position then small squads of 2-5 stormtroopers infiltrate the position.
So its a tactic of overwhelming firepower+small infiltrator squads.

>>512827234
It’s not a lie if you believe it

As in, if Ukraine glazers spout “meat waves and fighting with shovels” long enough then it’s real in their realities

>>512824328 (OP)
14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1

>>512826635
>the plan was to swap ukraines wins up north for some land down south.

Nah that was just the copesplanation after their real objectives failed which was to take over the Kursk nuclear power plant.Notice that after their offensive got completely defeated they switched narrative again and said that they had to attack the Russians in Kursk to prevent them attacking into ukraine but that was memoryholed too after Russia crossed into Sumy.

>>512826081
I got told I was an ignorant third world nigger here because I was not able to see how could 10 oe 20 MBTs change the entire shape of the frontline....
That was 2 years ago.

>>512826936
We don't have enough manpower for meatwaves lmao.

>>512827898
>We don't have enough manpower for meatwaves lmao.


Its because you lost it all in meatwaves.slava hoholistan
14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1 14:1

>>512824328 (OP)
I would hate to be Stinky about now

>>512824328 (OP)
It was a suicide mission to try to strike a deal but it failed miserably.

>>512824949
or more likely, more cope drone gores

>>512826876
Not enough manpower. Ukraine is literally out of troops.

>>512827439
Which is the whole point of the 14:1 lie.

Ukraine uses jew propaganda tactics because it is run by jews.
Putin = Hitler (greatest jewish propaganda victory ever) showed that long ago.

>>512827747
I told retards on /k/ when the first military aid package was announced that Abrams (and Leopard and any mbt) would not make any difference and would die like the rest. They argued endlessly about it too. I am smugly satisfied. When the war ends, I will return to make fun of them some more with pictures of cope caged Abrams.

Isn’t Oinkraine sending geriatric men to the front now? Talk about winning.
Slava Oinkraini!

EU is so irrelevant it's sad

>>512824328 (OP)
It seemed pretty obvious that they wanted Kursk nuclear power plant to trade for Zaporozhye. Why they doubled down and tried to hold some pissant villages after it became obvious they were bogged down, being slowly encircled and facing heavy attrition is quite the mystery.

>>512826527
>gaining ground quickly
still not controlling the 2 annexed oblasts more than 3 years later
kek

>>512826527
The offensive on the east was paused for a fucking year while monke and his norks chimped out over Kursk. That's a year to establish logistics, rearm units, build fallback positions and so on. Russia took that year bashing its head into a brick wall until it's elite naval infantry were wiped from the order of battle and replaced by koreans, then moved on to bashing its head into the east again.

Not sure when zigger shills are going to realize that hurling escooters and museum pieces into the meat grinder for incremental gains is not the picture of martial prowess you want it to be.

>>512824328 (OP)
This looks like a copefensive to me. Hungrily grabbing up ruined countryside a parcel at a time in order to reach an imaginary oblast line.

>>512826081
shh posting was peak though.

>>512830296
>The offensive on the east was paused for a fucking year
But that's completely false. The eastern offensive picked up speed exactly at the same time when Ukraine invaded Kursk last August.

>>512827562
what does that 14:1 refer to?

>>512830381
Big parcel. why can Ukraine not do that?

>>512830857
Ukrainians claim they are actually killing 14 Russians for every Ukrainian dead

For what I read russian force marched some saboteur units, main issue is, these guys have no real backup so there is a good chance they get pasted after ukrainians get their act together.

>>512830857
It was reported that for every Ukranian soldier who died, 14 Russians have died.

Ukraine puts out a lot of propaganda of Russians blowing up, and in war when that happens it's typically the side that's taking more casualties who does it.

So I reckon it's pretty close to 1:1.

>>512831067
I mean, what do you think it's going to happen to the ruskies in that outreach in the coming days.

>>512827126
>>512827234
>>512827398
>>512827898
Ukrainian positions can be known about for months and months while taking indirect fire and constant drone harassment. If Russians had superior firepower they could just destroy positions as they please and move on.

They literally just pour as many men and armaments as they possibly can into the frontline, use everything they can in the summer, reinforce and dig in for the winter and wait. It's literal WW1 tactics with drones.

>>512831159
It depends what mobile elements Ukraine has in the area or in reserve. I've seen a Ukrainian captain of Azov state Ukraine has no mobile elements in the area. I've also seen a report stating that Ukraine has considerable mobile elements in the area.

It's only a 20km breach.

Who knows is the only reasonable response.

>>512830857
According to Donald Trump, it's the official US intelligence assessment of the casualty ratio across the entire span of the war: 14 russian casualties for every ukrainian casualty.

>>512832527
>according to Donald Trump
Ah, so it's not true

>>512828122
NATO allied commanders have been idiots from the start and are still trying to safe face by sacrificing the lives of ordinary people.

Soon these NATO allied commanders will be exposed as foreign assets sacrificing national and european interest for their own careers.

If you look at the defensive lines there are two main problems. One, they mainly run east-west showing an anticipated Russian attack from the south. So the Russians have the advantage of enfilade pretty much making the fortifications useless. Two, the Ukrainians in haste or for other reasons, left off the little hooks from the ends of the fortification lines which are designed to protect against enfilade too.

Probably in light of all of this, a Ukrainian soldier would stand a better chance in open country than in their own trenches.

Remember when Russia still haven't taken the Donbas region after several years of fighting against a literal who nextdoor neighbour? And all it took was about a million casualties.
>imagine if Saddam was still squatting in Baghdad and Americans were cheering on taking another field and village thinking this was a mighty victory

>>512828993
What's even funnier was that most of us who actually followed this from the start k ow that any numbers given by ukrainian sources must be inverted, to become true.
So thos is basically a. Mission of 14:1 KDR, but in Russias favor.

>>512824328 (OP)
>still coping about losing the cold war
>turn to bullying smaller countries neighboring you to cope
>lose 25% of your smartest brains to europe and chinks because nobody wants to die for a retarded manlet
lmao

>>512835459
this as well

>>512824328 (OP)
>GAWKGAWKGAWKGAWK
You will get your turn too, don't worry

>>512824328 (OP)

>it got memory holed after the ukraininas got defeated

No, it wasn't, at least not by Ukrainians themselves. They are very proud of it and see it as a major victory:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bEuO-A60_0

>57,963 views Aug 6, 2025
>Kursk Operation. Retrospective
>It has been more than a year since the Special Operations Forces first used their special forces, psychological operations units, the Resistance Movement, and drones in coordination with friendly units.
>This created multi-layered pressure on Russian troops and the conditions for the rapid advance of the main forces in the Kursk region.
>For the SSO soldiers, this operation began two months earlier.
>Careful reconnaissance, strikes on enemy rear structures, destruction of key elements of the Russian defense. This is far from the entire list of tasks successfully completed by the SSO soldiers.
>Careful planning, destruction of Russian air defense systems and ammunition depots by the SSO soldiers deprived the enemy of the opportunity to react quickly. Point strikes on strategic objects and logistics coordinated with friendly units made it impossible to quickly transfer enemy reinforcements
>Small groups entered the enemy’s rear long before August, where they destroyed his defenses before the main forces arrived.
>Thanks to the unique and comprehensive use of the SSO, the soldiers led the main forces of the Ukrainian troops into Russia. Russia found itself unable to resist the offensive on August 6.
>The Russian military-political leadership once again proved its inability to respond promptly to the situation and the asymmetric nature of the war.

>>512836884

>Meanwhile, in the enemy’s rear, special forces groups and the SSO Resistance Movement carried out ambushes, raids, sabotage, and blew up enemy bridges and crossings. >Drones destroyed logistical convoys, heavy equipment, and enemy personnel while the enemy frantically tried to contain the onslaught.
>The SSO used more than just kinetic actions. The SSO Psychological Operations units sowed chaos and panic, and the Russian military was disorganized through an operation codenamed “Seneca.”
>It took the enemy command several months to try to turn the tide of events. North Korean troops appeared, to whom the SSO special forces quickly inflicted perhaps the greatest losses since the end of the active phase of the Korean War more than 70 years ago.
>The SSO soldiers were the first to seize documents, weapons of the DPRK troops and take the first North Korean prisoner.

>>512826081
Ukraine never stops waging the informational/psychological war and I suppose that (with the help of western media and big tech) they've been winning on that front but this can only go so far when things just keep getting worse on the (physical) battlefield. At some point it just becomes sad to watch but you still gotta admire the dedication of the people working on that desu. Like Baghdad Bob still doing his job until the very end.

>>512824752
nafo isn't sending their best

>>512826081

TEMPO TEMPO TEMPO

>>512824752
Baste
>>512824328 (OP)
Slobodan to the suck

>>512827126
its jew projection

>>512830296
>The offensive on the east

Russia doesn't do "big arrow" offensive anymore, they put pressure on a half a dozen points across the entire front to stretch the ukies thin and then exploits the inevitable gaps that appears.

Obviously it looks like the frontline doesn't move, and to be fair it indeed barely does, but what we see now is the results of that entire strategy : the AFU barely has any reserves left to plug the hole.

Once they'll scrounge something to throw at the russians in that specific section of the front, the russian will just stop assaulting that section and focus somewhere else.

Repeat until THD is achived.

>>512824328 (OP)
I still think Russians should have used a nuclear weapon on the area Ukraine invaded. Who can really say anything about above ground testing on your own territory?

>>512839925

Yes, I too think that this is among the best, if not the best music track in the whole Ace Combat franchise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4Jx76vSTk