Thread 512855511

We wuz.

Phew...

>>512855511 (OP)
Monkey only need sharp stick and fire
Monkey strong

>>512855511 (OP)
being a nigger must really suck

>>512855511 (OP)
at least the goat fuckers gave us numbers, as silly as they look if you think about it abcde : 12345

>>512855511 (OP)
mudhuts are good, actually. I think this kind of overt racism that's not even accurate isn't helpful to the cause.
t. ultra mega super ÜBER fascist/national socialist/racist xenophobic chud.

>>512855511 (OP)
Some say steel was invented there. Its a theory among antropologists. They have been producing iron for at least 3000 years, not preceded by a bronze age. Whether they learned this from the middle east or developed it on their own they are still able to master the production cycle and preserve the knowledge, which is something that africans get accused of not doing (i.e you give them a well and it soon breaks down and gets abandoned). For some reason this habit of forgetting doesnt happen with steel making. Might be more important than making wells

>>512856356
i already know, i see your flag

and the endless whining the afroniggers do about fins. and its glorious

>>512856356
Stop being a cuck. Literally everyone had mudhuts.

>>512855511 (OP)
Most of that dark green contains most of the world's christians btw

>>512856471
>Some say steel was invented there.

Literally no one without an agenda says that because there is zero evidence. I stopped reading there because you're clearly a fool or a shill. Probably both given the flag.

>>512855595
you jews really love showing off your one hit wonder vpn flags for dumb shit like this
eat shit and die unit 8200 you diaper wearing faggot cunts

>>512856561
Seething jew. What you said is a lie too.

>>512856058
they're too stupid to be sad. I'm not even kidding

>>512810946 this, but also this

>>512856471
Without water you die in 3 days.

>>512856514
>proud turbo chud that popularized mud huts meme on /pol/ over a few years

this shit irl is making me laugh hard. technically there are a lot of adobe houses in the southwest so we still live in mud huts here

They dat kang tho

>>512856579
>Literally no one without an agenda says that because there is zero evidence.
The one with an agenda is you projecting turbofaggot. They have been producing steel for 3000 years.

>>512856246
They stole them from Jeets no less..

>>512856677
Water literally falls from the sky. Look up and open your mouth, you dont need wells

that's not at all true; plenty of good things were invented in Africa, like the Marimba

the bad things in the world were mostly invented by whites, and they are being destroyed by their inventions

>>512855511 (OP)
Wasn't Ethiopia relatively normal? I think they have their own writing system as well, but they were historically connected with Christians and Muslims through the red sea, unlike the rest of Africa. Also, genetically i think they're dark skinned caucasoids, not negroids, as they resulted from a reverse migration back into Africa by caucasoid people.

>>512856680
Fuck your shirt

>>512855511 (OP)
Why is sudan light green? What did they invent?

There's something you're forgetting

>>512855511 (OP)
Thats not true. Nelson Mandela and his band of freedom fighters invented necklacing.
Racist

Traditional African societies pass down wisdom about how previous advanced civilizations came to ruin by the irresponsible development of technology, btw

>>512856471
no, arabs brought the method of iron smelting to africa

They made the greatest inventions in history.

Physics? Chemistry? Architecture? Culture? No, it's humanity.

>>512857033
>Arabs
Nobody knows. Could have been from ancient egypt or carthage, or independent. The knowledge still took root unlike the typical idea that africans just waste any aid or technology given to them and revert to savagery. They can make steel independently or external supplies and pass the knowledge generation to generation.

>>512856972
oh yeah i guess sub saharan africa invented electric cars, self-landing rockets, and globe spanning satelite networks. sorry racists

>>512857170
As in homo erectus? Maybe
Empathy and compassion? I don't know

>>512857349
they maybe did it for a while, but the knowledge was lost. When did bantu decimate most of central africa? I wouldn't be surprised if that's when the knowledge of that got lost
even if subsaharan africa had some capable tribes, bantus ruined that
>inb4 bantu is a language family
don't even

>>512857349
i actually dont know because i'm not an antropologist so how tf would i know, however its a fun stick to bash whote supremacists with. Its a theory for which theres as much support as the idea that iron came from assyria. Or not? Nobody can prove it

Developing efficient but cruel snares for animals, for example, may set a traditional society down a wicked and ultimately self-destructive path, hence the elders punish any cold-hearted "innovators"; what we call progress is restrained by wisdom

>>512857492
>When did bantu decimate most of central africa? I wouldn't be surprised if that's when the knowledge of that got lost
Nothing got lost, bantus know how to make steel and helped propagate it

>>512855511 (OP)
Not true, necklacing.

>>512857493
you're retarded if you think that some steel smelting is comparable to mechanical inventions or even algebera and physics. The only place you're sticking that stick is your own ass

>>512856471
Fucking jew…
You just love lying and fellating niggers.

>>512857562
maybe, idk. theyr'e still primitive af till this day

>>512857493
I'm pretty sure iron was known of even fairly early in the bronze age, it was just hard to work with due to a lack of good smelting technology. I heard it used to be gathered from meteorites.

>>512855511 (OP)
>not even writing
>EVEN
bro writing was an elite invention, most of the world imported it rather than independently invent it

>>512855511 (OP)
Cain is not a role-model, hylic.

>>512856895
Genocide

>>512857637
European researchers agree with him
>In the first decades of the twenty-first century, radiocarbon and thermoluminescence dating of artifacts associated with iron metallurgy in Nigeria and the Central African Republic have yielded dates as early as the third millennium BC.[1][7][8]

>>512856865
What bad things were invented by whites?
Also what useful things were invented in sub Saharan africa?

I would unironically prefer being an African tribesman to a modern Westerner

>>512857607
>at some steel smelting is comparable to mechanical inventions
Now you are coping and changing the goalposts eh.
>>512857655
>, it was just hard to work with due to a lack of good smelting technology
The iron age means knowing how to produce it and keep producing it not simply that someone found some iron once

>>512857776
e.g. firearms, nuclear weapons, ICBMs, and so on

>>512855511 (OP)
But what about Wakanda?

>>512857776
sub-Saharan Africans managed to create stable traditional societies that will outlast the West

>>512857825
Most of those are also useful or use useful applications.
Such as,hunting , nuclear power, and satellite launching.
Where's that list of inventions from sub Saharan africa?

>>512855511 (OP)
AIDS

>>512857740
Spot on. I was stationed in Abyei around 2011-2012 (can't recall now), fuck Darfur and their apes

>>512857818
not really, you're just retarded
I haven't started with the claim that they're completely incapable of anything. That was OP.

also question for you - if whites aren't superior, why did that ashkenazi jews project of stealing euro genes went forward?
why didn't you go with your precious subsaharan blacks?

and heck, I'm not even arguing that whites are suprerior. Because we're all different and better at some things and worse at others.
But all shitskins seem to believe deep down that whites are superior, even if they outright deny it when asked

>>512857728
They had writing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ge%CA%BDez
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Nubian
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meroitic_language
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adinkra_symbols
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nsibidi

>>512857914
Point them out, name the nation.

>>512857916
firearms and nuclear weapons and ICBMs are purely destructive, these are bad inventions

The Marimba, on the other hand, is an excellent invention

>>512857952
Why did they abandon them?

>>512858007
Only someone living in a mud hut would have such a simplistic view of technology.

>>512858012
Modern languages have strong lexical homology to them or were infused with foreign ones

>>512857980
I don't have a list of African inventions by nation on my phone ready to go to satisfy angry white pendants in internet arguments, because I don't consider it important

>>512857942
Darfur is going to consume the entire region BTW. UAE know this so by pouring gasoline they can destabilize and capture most of the Sahel. The Sudanese rapebabbies in the North are toast.

>>512856246
What? Those inbreds stole it from us.

>>512855511 (OP)
I think they invented AIDS.

>>512856795
Iron working... not steel anon. Yes there's evidence that iron ore was being smelted and worked in sub Sahara, but they weren't making steel. You need smiting equipment or huge amounts of heat to make steel, although if they could melt down iron ore they may have had the heat to make steel, but not the materials.

>>512856849
tuckers nun says you steal all the water

>>512856631
I'm pressing S to spit on you nong. You're not a bong anymore, but a Nong.

S

>>512858057
mud-huts are practical and environmentally sound, and they don't charge $2000 a month rent or have issues with homelessness

>>512858106
That's because there isnt a list.
Blacks are failures as humans.
A failed early experiment.

>>512857392
lol you have to go back tibla

>>512858278
African societies will outlast America

>>512857952
why are you even answering me with that? all of those are either derivative or just proto-writing
my argument is about the likelihood of developing writing, not whether sub-saharan nogs did, so either show me that most cultures worldwide independently developed writing or go tell that shit to op

>>512857818
No, the knowledge of hiw to produce iron came in the bronze age, bronze was used because it is better, but with the collapse of trade routes and inability to get tin, people switched to iron.

Why couldn't they ever figure out the wheel?

>>512858318
Lol, oh boy.
Cultures that still have rampant parasitic disease and intertribal warfare.
It's like Eden, lol.

>>512856795
Steel or iron

>>512857740
Nigger lovers agree with him.
You’re a jew larping as a nigger. Fuck off.

>>512858238
Kek, the closest in the region to make steel around then MAY have been the proto-Spaniards favored by Julius Caesar for his legion recruitment.
It's mostly rumor and conjecture, but it does look like they were adding carbon with charcoal to their gladii during forging.

>>512857942
Must be fucking pure adventure being a Wager-tier merc out in Africa. Heard the RSF(?) are actually movie-tier crazies who don't give annnyyyyyy fucks.

The whole conflict seems like Arab imperialism, trying to eradicate the nignogs from the region, with various powers backing random sides for resource gibs.

Going to be insane when this all flares up and joins with the Congo front. Hope we get some amusing teams like the Nigerian Civil War.

>>512858347
They did
>While the wheel and animal-drawn wheeled transports were usable in the arid environment of the ancient Sahara,[4] and usable in the sparsely wooded, level, arid environment of the ancient Sahel,[5] the environment of the ancient Sudan may have made it rather impractical due to there being a lack of paved roads and seasonal rains.[4]

>>512858414
intertribal warfare is quaint compared to what white people will do to each other with firearms and nuclear weapons

>>512857980
Nations are not real. They will however survive as tribes and biological entities, long after the fiction of "peoples" bigger than an extended family ends

>>512858440
European authorities on the matter do, while a bunch of whiny /pol/cels don't. A tragedy.

>>512858520
Only if things dont change.
They cant handle change.

>>512858501
Just so you know, the wheel was invented for mines, to cart out materials. It originated in the carpathians.

>>512856665
every nigger and jeet has a smart phone that is 10,000 times more powerful than that

>>512858501
Wiki…

>>512855511 (OP)
this cracka forgot about wakanda and the vibranium

>>512858449
>Niggers want into metallurgy
>Choose to steel
Pottery.

>>512857777
checked

>>512858547
European authorities = liberal nigger lovers
The same trash importing European destruction

>>512858671
The Citation in question
https://books.google.com/books?id=mXa4AQAAQBAJ&dq=%22wheel%22+%22history%22+%22Africa%22+desert&pg=PP1

>>512857392
I went to school with a kid from Chad and he was pretty fresh off the boat. Was really smart. Lil hood niggas walked up to him in the hall one day and were like "sup nigga". He acted super uncomfortable and later asked me why they called him a nigger.

>>512858449
It took the celts until the "iron age" to produce steel, and they were masters of metal, and there's no evidence that steel was a thing in Egypt either, so it's safe to say that sub Saharans were not making steel.

>>512856677
>what are 3 day dry fasts

>>512856677
I've personally lived for seven days without any food or water

>>512858807
How convenient. Anybody who says something you don't like is biased. Funnily enough, the Euros are claiming it existed since the 3rd millenium BC but was passed from the North.

>>512858644
>smart phone
>smart
there's the problem they be needin' a dumb phone

>>512858644
>has
were you even alive in 2007? I mean, physically existing in a human body, assuming you're not a botsnetwanafanta.

>>512858810
It says he made use of oral traditions.
That’s not scientific, he’s just a nigger lover trying to equate Africa and Europe as if they’re remotely comparable.

>>512858857
Steel dates back to before the iron age, it was just to expensive to produce to be a mass used material, but we have steel trinkets from like 4000 years ago.

>>512858821
How smart can you be if you dont know what a nigga is?

>Europeans judge all other people by European standards and then deem them inferior

idiotic

>>512856455
LMAO

>>512855511 (OP)
Language
Stone tools
Bone tools
Early mathematics (Lebombo bone)
Early geometrics

Only racists and neo-nazis, like those from the Kievan junta, believe that African people have no history, culture, and science.

Sub-Saharan Africa has a rich history of innovation and contributions, often underrecognized due to global narratives or limited documentation. Below is an overview of notable inventions, advancements, and progress from the region across various domains, focusing on historical, cultural, and modern contributions. I'll aim for a concise yet comprehensive summary, drawing on historical context and recent developments where relevant.
Historical and Cultural Contributions

Metallurgy and Ironworking:

Iron Smelting (circa 1000 BCE): The Nok culture in present-day Nigeria developed advanced iron-smelting techniques, some of the earliest in the world. The Haya people in Tanzania also used sophisticated furnaces capable of producing high-quality steel, predating similar European advancements by centuries.
Impact: These techniques enabled tool-making, agriculture, and warfare, shaping early African societies like the Kingdom of Aksum and Great Zimbabwe.

>>512859454
Weak.
Even if true, the Iron age wan an Euro-Asiatic affair.

Nigs did nothing remarkable with their iron skills.

>>512859142
Early Greek and Roman history was preserved via oral tradition. Or are Chinese right, Westerners fabricated and embellished a lot of their history?

>>512859288
There is no other standard though. Western Civilisation is founded on the virtues of logic and reason. No other standards exist.

>>512859288
this is the exact reason we send our kids to private school, this moronic shit right here

>you cant be held to European standards durrrr that's muh raysiss

aside from their terrible chimplet behavior of course

>>512859438
>Early mathematics (Lebombo bone)
C-counting?

>>512856246
it was indians, mudshits have never invented anything

Life in America was better before white people colonized it and utterly destroyed its ecosystems; Western superiority is illusory and will be a short-lived delusion

>>512856865
>they are being destroyed by their inventions
Like compassion for other groups?

>>512859578
Early Greek and Roman history is a good example of why you can't trust oral traditions. With better investigation methids and DNA analysis, we know the Romans didn't come from Troy, they were just native Italians.

>>512859748
>Lies white people tell themselves

>Neuralink

lol I can't wait to see what Elon has planned for paleface

>>512856665
What are you talking about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Laptop_per_Child
I look it up, its true.

>>512859775
And radio-carbondating and thermoluminescence proved Iron Metullargy in ancient africa, yet /pol/ refuses to accept that. So now what?

>>512859438
Based RusGOD

>>512859775
Eneas and his bros were never supposed to have genetically changed all of Italy.
Just the upper echelon of the Latins, and that is still indeed possible to have happened.

Although Livy never pretended his epic was more than fiction.
The tale of Eneas predates him though.

Whites apparently don't evaluate whether their new inventions will be negative for society or the planet in general, anything advantageous to the individual is permissible, even if that individual is a functional sociopath

>>512860331
read your own name you stupid motherfucking cunt

then fucking kill yourself

>>512860424
There's ancient prophecies in Africa about what happens to white people, and who is responsible... it's a long story

>>512858501
>usable
>usable
Theory and conjecture without any evidence of the actual fucking wheel.
>impractical due to there being a lack of paved roads
Meanwhile the White man....

>>512860522
Its called the tale as old as time

>>512860522
you're a jealous racist bigot
there's ancient prophecies about brown jews like you and it's pic rel

A nerve was struck, egos were threatened, again

>>512859954
>proved Iron Metullargy in ancient africa,
Is this like when the oldest stone structure in Africa turned out to be a Roman fort?

>>512860697
farts were brapped shills were siffin

>>512856471
>Some say steel was invented there
>there
Africa is gigantic, you need to be more specific

>>512859954
I haven't followed your conversation, are you arguing whether iron metallurgy in Central Africa evolved independently or was imported? Idk, from what i know there's not a lot to go, but it is Interesting in and of itself how little is preserved over there if they did have a long self developed civilization. In the Lavant you can just casually walk around stumbling over millenia old fortresses and ruins showcasing the evolution.

>>512860535
Chariot pole fittings and wheel remains in Meroe, thanks to British archaeologists.
https://collections.mfa.org/objects/365415/chariot-pole-fittings

>>512860707
Odd for the Romans to have been in the heart of West Africa

>>512860767
>observation over scientifically rigorous techniques
Are you German?

>>512856471
Most of Africa wasnt inhabited by niggers before the out of Congo basin invasion

>chukudu
They invented the wheel there not too long ago.

>>512855511 (OP)
Them niggas got 3 wives on he dick and 17 keeds tho while you white faggots jerk off to anime.

>>512860829
But that says theyre bronze.
This thread says Africa skipped bronze and went to iron.
So what's the deal?

Oh that's right, just like the ancient Roman fort where European pottery was found your link is European prosicts found in a grave with zero evidence of them being produced in africa....

>>512861024
>Odd for the Romans to have been in the heart of West Africa
Romans built forts way past their actual territorial borders, they even had one next to Yemen, so it wouldn't be weird to find stuff like that all around, but I don't know what structure that anon was referencing.
>observation over scientifically rigorous techniques
There isn't a "scientifically rigorous technique" available to determine whether it was imported or self developed. There aren't any findings documenting the gradual development, and inner Africa didn't even have a bronze age, it skipped to the iron age which started after the Mediterranean one.

>>512855511 (OP)
Parts of the Bible and the book of Enoch were written in Ethiopian script . Other areas of Africa also had writing.
Lying white retarded cunt.

>>512856895
Pyramids

>>512855511 (OP)
What did any areas outside of Western Europe invent??? Tell me about Asia retardo

>>512861331
It says it's from Nubia (slightly before Alexander the Great), Nubia was heavily involved with Egypt, and it would be very difficult to imagine bronze metallurgy not carrying over just down the river, especially that late in the iron age.

>>512856629
Well a bunch of em are in Latin America as well. Between the two continents, they make up the vast majority of christendom. Do you have a problem with this, O thou son of man?

>>512861857
... much of Atlantis ended up dispersed in Africa, the cool stuff is still hidden away

>>512861331
Meroe is in East Africa you dimwit. In Modern day Sudan. The metullargy stuff is in the west.

>>512861547
European researchers resolved the matter in favour of independent innovation.
>Judging from a number of recent publications, the long-running debate over the origins of iron smelting in sub-Saharan Africa has been resolved… in favor of those advocating independent invention. For Gérard Quéchon, the French archeologist to whom we owe very early dates for iron metallurgy from the Termit Massif in Niger, “indisputably, in the present state of knowledge, the hypothesis of an autochthonous invention is convincing.” According to Eric Huysecom, a Belgian-born archeologist, “[o]ur present knowledge allows us … to envisage one or several independent centres of metal innovation in sub-Saharan Africa.”
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/history-in-africa/article/abs/did-they-or-didnt-they-invent-it-iron-in-subsaharan-africa/DB40377A90535C7041DC10159B43C50F

Any more witless babble?

Africans need to stay the fuck in Africa. Blacks need to be deported to Liberia.
Colonizers in Europe = instant remigration.

>>512862125
Whites don't appear to be native to Europe, lol, they stole that too (and ruined it)

the Caucasian is very confused about his own history and origins

>>512856677
This is a myth

>>512862064
The paper claiming for itself the issue is resolved is a big red flag (from experience, i can tell you this is usually just hot air to make your position sound better, the academic equivalent of drawing your opponent as the søyjack). You can fund similiar puffing around the out of africa and multi regional evolution discussion (where in reality the evidence points towards a merger of both hypotheses).
Digging a bit by myself, it seems the main argument lies in how early the metallurgy started over there. But this would imply metallurgy was independently developed in multiple places around Afro-Euro-Asia at basically the exact same time, which would be even more weird. Are they discounting how extensive trade networks would have been at the time, through which technology would propagate?

You guys do realise that bantu means farmer right?

>>512863356
Specialized terracotta figurine:
https://archive.archaeology.org/1107/features/nok_nigeria_africa_terracotta.html
https://oxfordre.com/africanhistory/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190277734.001.0001/acrefore-9780190277734-e-1380?d=%2F10.1093%2Facrefore%2F9780190277734.001.0001%2Facrefore-9780190277734-e-1380

Caruburized Iron (Steel) indicating independent development in East Africa
https://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archives/view/assemblage/html/4/4schmidt.html

UNESCO documents indicating independent development in CAR
https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark%3A/48223/pf0000133843

>>512856822
>>512858175
>>512859656
3 jeets
kek

>>512863911
Before reading any further
>Fagg, a man of boundless curiosity and energy
Heh

>>512856471
Of course this post is JEW.

>>512863356
Ideas often appear simultaneously in multiple independent individuals, who have no knowledge of each other, this is a known phenomenon. The history of the telephone is a good example of parallel invention

>>512864284
https://oxfordre.com/africanhistory/display/10.1093/acrefore/9780190277734.001.0001/acrefore-9780190277734-e-1380?d=%2F10.1093%2Facrefore%2F9780190277734.001.0001%2Facrefore-9780190277734-e-1380

You're just being obstinate for the sake of it

>metallurgy arguments

have you not seen the orichalcum from Atlantis?

>>512863911
Ok so the first article actually acknowledges that it is infact not clear whether it was independently developed or imported, but the second one makes it even more bizzare. A sporadic culture with no social or political complexity developing these methods around the same time in the rest of the old world, and having basically no continuity with later cultures of the area? Something is off. Mind you not even mesoamericans developed iron, only regions connected by land routes and around the same period.
The East Africa article is fine, they developed ot seemingly on their own at a vastly different date, though i wonder of idea contagion played a role (knowledge that metal can be worked already existed).
>>512864894
No, i just found his name funny.

>>512863911
Bodied these crackers violently but it doesn't matter. The actual truth is irrelevant to them. They only come here to reinforce what makes them feel good.

>>512865585
Also, it seems that there is a lot of dispute regarding the radio carbon dating before 900BCE

>>512858933
This. It's a myth that you can't live longer than 3 days without water.

>>512855511 (OP)
They invented necklacing.

Face check: untrue X

>>512855511 (OP)
I think that you forgot about Egypt sweetie

doesn't matter
once AI is implantable with ocular displays and iBliss/iPain modules, those 4-billion bantu-nigs will be nothing short of the Tyrannid Swarm devouring xenos and humanity alike.

>>512855511 (OP)
Whites in South Africa invented a whole bunch of things, so not really true.

>>512855511 (OP)
well this isn't true because it includes ethiopia, which invented multiple written languages

>>512855511 (OP)
>not even writting
more like not even the wheel