Thread 512857636

It's china really a huge deal armamentistically to america in the zone (Asia) or it's just a papper tiger? could it takes taiwan easly or it's going to be a shitshow?

>>512857636 (OP)
Why does the front of the face look like a face in pain.

>>512857636 (OP)
There was a guy up on the bow with a fender, I dont think it helped.

>>512857636 (OP)
Correct me if im wrong, but, isnt it easy to beat China? Like, easier than any other country? Just because of their three gorges dam. Bust that dam and China is done. Am I wrong?

>>512857997
have you calculated how much is needed to blow up the dam
>just blow up the dam
pretty lazy lol

>>512858247
i think beat like destroy the CCP but maybe, contain it? india have been doind that for years on their frontiers and a whole naval operation against, say, Japan, Taiwan nor pinas would be something really easy to screw up in the zone.

>>512858247
1 jdam...

>>512857997
yes and chinese know this for thousand of years.
they flooded each other for centuries

>>512858369
i don't think*

>>512857636 (OP)

china could, within reason, take taiwan. but a war with the west would completely destroy it without the war even being fought. reason being that china's economy relies almost entirely on the purchasing power of the western import economy. if china is at war with the west then there is no one to buy their goods and the chinese export economy collapses overnight resulting in mass unemployment/starvation/civil unrest and possible internal wars. did i mention that china is actually not self sufficient on food and relies on western imports to feed it's people? about 30% of chinese food consumption relies in imports - that's 450 million people.

the CCP came to power on the promise of lifting as many of the chinese people out of poverty as possible and providing a stable future for the chinese nation. if the chinese went to war with the west they would regress back to a place such as they were a few decades after the chinese communist revolution and break the promise that they made to the chinese people.

>>512857636 (OP)
Are we forgetting things from like last month?

>>512858369
indian's not doing too much of a good job containing china since a chunk of territory was just taken and now china's trying to build a dam controls all the water that goes into india

>>512857636 (OP)
>>512858769
Reminder that 7 Sailors died.

>>512858247
Right, I was under the impression its already weakened - lets say "at the tipping point" from the pressure behind it. A well placed ordinance might not need to be so large? I dont know

>>512857636 (OP)
Trump taco to this? Lmao

>>512858975
that would put the dam out of working order if you want a breach and a flood to kill half the chinks you need way more
you're nuking a mountain

>>512858929
Yea that one is way worse.
Comparing to China American naval plunders are systematic.

>>512857636 (OP)
i used to take them more seriously
but after how every major multi polar army shat the bed i believe they'll also shit the bed

>>512857997
And how is that different from simply bombarding them with nuclear bombs? The reaction will be the same.

>>512858247
>have you calculated how much is needed to blow up the dam

>>512857636 (OP)
If you put both navies in the middle of the Pacific and had them duke it out, America would stomp China.
The problem is that it wouldn't really happen in the middle of the Pacific, it'd happen in the east China sea where China has an unbelievably massive advantage logistically and vast amounts of strategically and economically important trade pass through it. The battle isn't the problem. The problem is getting there in the first place, winning the first fight and then having to fight the second one without supplies.

>>512858385
Just fuck my dam up

>>512858769
Say that again.

>>512859212
you got your ass kicked by one of them
if anything, the past 4 years have proven that the West is the one that is a paper tiger
death of USD (and with it the whole globohomo) is inevitable

>>512859552
kek

>>512858642
you need to update your scrypt, it's about 30 years out of date

>>512857636 (OP)
>could it takes taiwan easly
it could overpower the TW military and force the roc government to concede once the US shows it isn't going to bomb chinese pla naval ships. but the tw population would guerilla fight in the cities and no mainland chinese would be safe on tw island so it would be very messy.
for this reason an invasion won't happen. they don't need one when they can make economic ties and once the DPP fall out of favour for ruining the tw economy and all the old taiwanese americans die, the KMT will do a 1 country 2 systems deal with beijing and the Taiwan SAR will become a part of Greater China. this way everyone stays happy for 10 or so years until beijing forces law changes. but that is still better than blowing up taiwan and killing a million of them.

>>512859192
>naval plunders

>>512859670
your losses were bigger
and above all, A LOT costlier
that's why Trump needed to desperately end that conflict
you lost that war, despite owning almost all media space worldwide

driver of Chinese ships

>>512859670
All these portraits and yet you have chickened out on all strategic goals regarding iran.

>>512859472
This, China is about deterrence.
That is you until you wait another decade or two, where the table might even flip

>>512859552
Only if you csn have the US public on their side.
Get the US public to want something to die and it will.

>>512859824
>>512859843
lol
lmao even

>>512859859
Gee I wonder how military convinces congress to give them more money
>Make China big and strong or tell the truth about PLA.

>>512857771
Waves fucked it up while chasing Taiwan boat out of disputed waters

>>512859364
Nukes don’t exist. Large bodies of water do

>>512860025
Lies, we live in a Dune like desert world where fentanyl give people blue eyes and psychic space magic powers.

>>512859917
us public has absolutely nothing to do with anything
nobody gives a shit what americans think. you will march into any war your owners have started
the problem is your military equipement. your stockpiles are empty. Russia depleted everything from the whole West and western military industrial output is laughable. despite being in the most intensive war since ww2, the whole west still hasn't increased weapons production by much.

>tl;dr: you cannot fight a real war because you simply have no guns
conflict with Iran proved it. 10 or 12 days and your generals were already sweating in despair

>>512859364
Its in a MAD scenario ofc but I was just thinking that in a MAD scenario China gets snuffed faster than anyone, so maybe that is part of what makes them such a paper tiger? They have to be more careful than other nations to never let things escalate that far. I see Russia and the US throw their nuke dick talk around and thinking perhaps it makes more sense for them to do that. China not as much (does China even have nukes?)

>>512857636 (OP)
I think if the CCP thought they could take Taiwan and the repercussions they already would have invaded. Either they're not confident they can naval invade outside Taipei and hold air superiority that long or are confident we're going to get involved. The only thing is China's demographics at absolutely way worse than ours and thus they won't be able to in the future if they don't soon

>>512857636 (OP)
No one is afraid of Chinks lmao

>>512859859
Industries win wars. And capital decides who the next empire will be. There's no way around china. America is only chimping out because you don't let jews in. If you gave jews power, as the last empires Holland, UK and USA have done, they would immediately abandon the american empire. But please don't do that.

>>512859957
>Gee I wonder how military convinces congress to give them more money
lies are not required to give money, because you americans are docile and wont do shit, you know this

>>512857636 (OP)
No it could not take Taiwan easily, there would be huge international ramifications for it if they do it militarily but it is definetly the case that China is going to be the main concern for the US in the coming decades, US doesn't want to allow any regional powers anywhere because they can potentially remove american influence in the region and be a threat to their global project

>>512857636 (OP)
It's a paper tiger with their shitty copied temu weapon systems

>>512857636 (OP)
>Filipino matador bamboozled two Chinese bulls
Chinks are so embarrassing.

>>512857997
>>512859364
even if you drop nuclear bomb the three gorges dam will stay。It was designed specifically to withstand nuclear explosion

>>512857997
That would be a MAD situation and they'd just try to nuke everyone. But china is severely cucked by its geography. They're a massive net food importer and surrounded by US bases in the Island chains. So unless they can break up the Island chains quickly it would be very simple to just starve the chinks through a naval blockade. Not to mention they are surrounded by enemies and not even Russia trusts them.

>>512860433
I think you didn't understand my post.

>>512860433
What?
That's purely insane.

>>512860433
it isnt designed for the normal ass chinese weather that shit is fucking crumbling delusional chang lmao

>>512860433
>It was designed specifically to withstand nuclear explosion
Lol no it wasn't. China no longer builds inland nuclear power plants specifically for this reason. Chinkoid officials are always misrepresenting the stability of their infrastructure.

>>512860799
>China no longer builds inland nuclear power plants specifically for this reason.
?

>>512860533
>massive net food importer
For luxury and storage, they are self-sufficient in at least grain.

>>512860799
Literally building another 3GD except its 3 times larger. You chuds never cease to amuse me with your copes

>>512860739
you wish it was shit built like american dams but this is different

www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/1928774/chinas-three-gorges-dam-can-survive-nuclear-attack-says-nations

https://nuclear-or-non-nuclear-are-needed-to-blow-up-the-worlds-biggest-dam

it is simply too difficult to destroy it you better choose different target

>>512857636 (OP)
China relying so heavily on economic warfare and propaganda should tell you all you need to know about the PLA. We utilize both too, we can also bitch slap any other country in the world into submission within minutes.

>>512857636 (OP)
China don't want to kill their own kind and destroy an ecomically florid island. Taking Taiwan by force is bad from many point of view.

>>512861136
>we can also bitch slap any other country in the world into submission within minutes.
not so fast jose

Friendly reminder that the Chinese haven't been a serious military power in eons and have spent the last however long recent memory getting their asses handed to them by everyone internationally. Why mess up a good thing?

>>512861266
Are you actually naive enough to believe that's a real issue they're having?
>flag
Of course you are, you can't afford not to be.

>>512857997
I'm a 61 year old Boomer. This is what I was taught from childhood on - that China was incompetent, rural, ignorant and not something to fear. I now believe all of that was completely wrong. They are quite competent and can out manufacture us by hundreds of times. They don't have the weapons systems we have, so I'm not sure how a war would go, but they can saturate us will bullets and drones. It's a new warfare. But it's a mistake to think that the Chinese would be an easy fight. They have numbers and resources. I hope that we can diplomatically avoid war. Shit, together the chinks and the yanks could rule the world for sure.

>>512858247
just fuck the turbine hall up
and transmisison lines
and their energy grid goes bokners

>>512859934
He's not wrong, stay delusional

>>512861136
This and /thread

>>512857997
Sun tzu:
If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will be weak everywhere. Numerical weakness comes from having to prepare against possible attacks; numerical strength, from compelling the enemy to prepare against you.

>>512861378
>together the chinks and the yanks could rule the world
Lmao. It's rare for competing oligarch groups to merge, especially for such large ones.

>>512860433
It can barely withstand its own shoddy workmanship kek. Show flag ching chong

>>512861651
Holy shit I love how people quote that yellow monkey like he had something new or impressive to say.

>>512861463
ok retard
iran lost its military leadership and air defenses on the first day
planes flew uncontested for two weeks over iran
irans nuclear program at worst pushed several years back
at best destroyed completely
and of course their missile stockpiles are heavily depleted with many TELs destroyed
oh and over a thousand dead and even according to iran vast majority of which were adult males - thus military

but iran managed to cause less damage than iraq in the 90s in return
while israel killed dozens of generals the only servicemen iran killed was a private first class

pathetic really

>>512861767
Its more of a organized split than a union. Think of the race for africa, or the partition of china oddly enough. Cut the world into bits that are under your domain.

>>512861378
Their resources were (still are) lacking, but it's their numbers that should be feared. Modern rule of thumb is 3:1 military size is needed to attack or invade. China has 4:1, American population, and my guess is most Americans would not volunteer to fight with the deeply engrained demoralization of the past 15 years, while Chinese would have no choice nor means to resist.

>>512858769
>hahaha some chink boats collided!!!!!
Nigga you just lost a war to fucking Yemen...

>>512859212
Yeah

>>512857636 (OP)
pic rel

>>512861804
> something new
It's 2,625 years old.

Sun tzu was 600 years BEFORE jesus, moron. People quote him for being one of the earliest and most comprehensive military manuals to still exist, nothing to do with new. Much of his manual is timeless.

>>512862228
the poor 120 employees

>>512857636 (OP)
China has had no succes with naval warfare in the last two centuries. It won't move on Taiwan until it has a capable navy.

>>512862307
Wow, before jebus.
What an achievement.

>>512862038
You practically ruled the entire world in the 90s and didn't give anything up voluntarily. Why would the chinks, now that you show weakness, allow themselves to do something like that? You would have to convincingly convey to them that you are prepared to destroy the world. Then a division similar to that of the cold war would be possible. However, even today, 80% of the world would join china for economic reasons. So you would have to rule your vassals by force.

>>512862344
>we didn't want those ports or maritime shipping anyway
Are you a Slav? You cope like a Ukrainian, it's uncanny

>>512857636 (OP)
>could it takes taiwan easy or it's going to be a shitshow?
i dont see how china gets there when its navy is such a huge shitshow. if they tried for it, taiwan ends up sinking a huge amount of landing craft before they ever make it to a beachhead. but its still important for china to keep up appearances so they need to drill as if it could happen any day now, helps pressure taiwanese into unification over conflict.

>>512857636 (OP)
China's not going to "take" Taiwan, they've openly said forever that their plan was incrementalism and economic dependency. What is the position of the US government pre-Trump on Chinese economic dependency? America defends Taiwan like it defended the Ukraine.

>>512857636 (OP)
Paper tiger
Tofu navy

>>512857997
yeah, and all the water will flow uphill just like in that retarded /pol/turd video and drown all the chinx

>>512862556
A lot of poorer countries in the belt and road initiative are learning what its like to do business with the chinks and they dont like it.

>>512857939
What good does playing guitar do during a maritime incident?

>>512862697
Here i thought euro knew about geography. Many large chinese cities are downstream from the 3 gorges.
Educate yourself eurotrash.

>>512858929
So Israel has still killed more Americans, kek

>>512862615
>it matters because it does okay
if only israel had access to seas other than the red one

>>512858642
Guns and butter

Open economies and trade make you rich but a country can survive without it during war time. Look at Ukraine and Russia.

>>512862797
>many
sure thing nigger, just watch the video and weep you fucking imbecile

>>512862713
It boosts your party's battle stats and morale. Haven't you ever played a video game?

>>512862844
What video?
Now you're just making shit up?

The Chinese military are a bit of a mystery, but keep in mind that one of theirs like a thousand years ago wrote a book that said "appear strong when you are weak" and they're currently flexing all over the world in all aspects, not just militarily, literally constantly.
But who knows? I personally think that apparent Chinese upward trajectory is less due to Chinese talent and more to continued Western complacency.

>>512862707
Of course, they want to take from all the pots now. But if they had to choose, they'd choose china. Especially after you weakened your industrial vassal Germany so much in the hope of saving your empire.

>>512862833
If only

China's population statistics are absurdly inflated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftcLM3502_8
tl;dr is that given a starting point of china's population in the 1990's with the 1 child policy and it's reported tfr at that time (1.7 over the 35 year period when it is more likely closer to 1.2) there is no way there are 1.4B chinese and the number is much closer to 800M if not 650M.

>>512863202
Maybe if you euros could go 50 years without a war the rest of us wouldn't have to get involved?
Have you ever even considered that?

>>512863169
>I personally think that apparent Chinese upward trajectory is less due to Chinese talent and more to continued Western complacency.

You are correct. China only has what it has because the west was incentivized by the CIA to send jobs to China to build a middle class which would be the spring board to a revolution. It failed and backfired miserably and the west never got the memo to return the jobs, instead sending them to India and other turd world areas.

>>512863169
I can't imagine anyone in china giving a shit about sun tzu. That was more of an 80s wall street jew thing.

>>512863434
Another euro war dragging the world into it.
Thanks for proving my point.

>>512863240
and goalpost moved
>credit score
now you definitely won
it's devastating and both the famine in yemen and the water crisis in iran are peanuts compared to it
KEK

>>512863529
How do you expect to divide the world with china if you even now deny responsibility for your vassals?

>>512857636 (OP)

In unrestrained war, the Chinese surface fleet is gone in 15 minutes. That won't be the case in 10 years. The challenge is that America has retards and China is growing at a massive pace. China also has retards but they control much more manufacturing now. White countries are becoming third world now and the people with the capacity to build back are disappearing. AI can make you think you know everything, but actual experience in industry and the equipment is needed to do stuff like make good missiles and ships.

>>512863635
>reee vassals
You're like a shitty retarded broken record.

They'll get bombed like never before. Keep in mind Taiwan can touch inland China as much as China lob all the same bullshit that failed to make an impact on Israel. At this point; it's jover.

>>512863555
>and goalpost moved
Is this the high verbal IQ you guys brag about all the time? May it serve you well in your efforts to avoid a civil war

>>512863742
If you have no influence anyway, then you should stop whining, bring all your spic and nigger soldiers and glowniggers home and become an agrarian nation.

>>512863718
in ten years they'll be dealing with India. screen cap it.

>>512863925
>you're dumb for acknowledging my deflection
kek mr zhang

>>512857636 (OP)
The flip crew who pulled off the one-in-a-million chance collision
Say something nice about them

>>512863987
No, dont tell us what to do.
It's amazing how arrogant you ignorant euros are.
I lived in Germany so i know what assholes you people are.

>>512857636 (OP)
No (((China))) is a paper Tiger and exists just for Americans to export our pollution
Taiwan is the True China anyways

>>512861029
If you want to defend china you should stop trying to educate mutts and keep them ignorant.

>>512859674
Sorry chang but it’s not

>>512864142
Oh yeah since aussies are well known intellectuals and not drunken beach trash.

>>512864114
>a zogbot
That explains it. You can't occupy nations and simultaneously claim you have no influence. No one believes you, especially not china.

>>512863376
>incentivized by the CIA to send jobs to China to build a middle class which would be the spring board to a revolution
That makes sense out of what seems like a nonsensical move given current circumstances. I've never heard that perspective before, did you read that somewhere?
>>512863398
I would imagine that they'd Sun Tzu as just a foundation of competitive strategy rather than gospel. Even like how people elsewhere will be quoting or operating on ideas put forward by philosophers of ages past without really knowing they're doing so because it's ingrained in the culture's intellectual tradition.

>>512857636 (OP)
china plays the bad cop in the jew world order

>>512864282
>germany = soldier
The world is a bigger place than that you feckless simpleton.
But there's more of that legendary euro arrogance.

>>512858769
You can't really compare due to so many reasons. One of them being that the Chinese were trying to corner and bully the Filipino ship but failed miserably at doing so. The Chinese crashed into each other while trying so hard. The second is that the Chinese never went back to check up on them, the bigger Chinese ship just went back for a last push on the Filipino boat and failed again. The third being is that their could have been some deaths on the Chinese side during this whole thing, there was a man over board call.

American Navy accidents are actual accidents that can happen, like the one you just posted there.

>>512864000
India will submit. They have no other choice, especially when the american empire withdraws. A look at india's air force and its jet development program is enough to know that they can never pose a threat to anyone on their own.

>>512861029
That's actually Keno, but doesn't change the fact "we'll" bomb the fuck out of you if get all uppity,

>>512864354
There was a series of semi ars last year I attended with a retired CIA employee. Basically tiananmen was seen as an opening to exploit and they thought if people had more money and prosperity they would not like the CCP having a say about it and would revolt. It failed but companies made a shit load of profit with less wages to pay and could sell dirt cheap so they kept the system instead of bringing the jobs back.

>>512857636 (OP)
China is a joke and only gets hyped up by American military as an excuse to waste more money
They can’t even take Taiwan

>>512864393
So you're claiming you weren't there on behalf of the MIC or a glownigger NGO?

>>512862489
Please post older with equal or greater verbosity.

>>512857636 (OP)
China is trying to project naval strength but their organization and technology lags behind the US. If they believed they had a real chance to take Taiwan they would have already tried it.

>>512864036
Concession: accepted. How are the protests going btw? The crowds the other night looked pretty big.

>>512865275
you didn't make an argument retard
you just called me dumb
mr. zhang you are a fucking imbecile
>another deflection

>>512860923
New developments are coastal retard

>>512864786
The one thing I'll give the CCP real credit for is keeping their corporations in line.
I can't remember where, but I was listening to a video with some economist on the topic of BRICS becoming a bloc with its own reserve currency. He said that it would probably be the ruble because the CCP would never allow the yuan to be used to trade outside of China because then they'd lose first control of their massive companies, then control of China itself.

>>512865934
London was supposed to become the hub for yuan trading outside of china. That was in 2016. Coincidentally, it coincided with brexit. But after brexit, the americans seem to have banned london from pursuing that path. Bad luck for the bongs.

>>512859970
>>512860025
glad you were here to humiliate china further!

>>512865934
Yeah they deeply took the lessons on the history of various collapsed empires to heart. They will be a very difficult adversary to crush and even if we do win, there will be concequenses for generations if not centuries.

>>512866349
I wonder how that would have worked out for the Brits. Obviously Brexit ended up with the literal opposite of what they wanted.

>>512866628
Why would we want to crush them in the first place? I'm not a faggot zogbot.

>>512857636 (OP)
Juat send filipino fishermen up the Yangtze.

>>512866714
Communism for one but for me personally, they have killed an entire sea through over fishing, destructive trawling, rampant island building. That entire eco system has been irrevocably destroyed. It's gone. Where the fuck was green peace and other environmentalist protests the last 20 years?

They deserve to be nuked off the face of the earth for that alone. Don't even get me started on pollution they generate.

>>512859674
>lol
Fucking idiot. China wasn't making shit for the whole world 30 years ago. Dumbass 13 year old.

>>512866628
>>512866714
Yeah I wouldn't say that crushing them is the right move per se.
The worst thing that westerners, Canadians especially, do is keep thinking we're doing everything right while our material and social circumstances deteriorate around us. I'd say that what we should be doing is figuring out what China is doing right and implementing what we can from them to our own benefit, but I think also that would require abundant youthful vigor, flexibility and creativity. Unfortunately we don't have that in very large quantities and the youth we do have is forced down by bad ideology and old people gibs.

>>512866628
>the concequencses:
>3.
>2.
>1.
BEGIN!

>>512866714
>insects must be crushed.

>>512866653
My assumption at the time was that they only left because of the yuan hub offer. The yuan would have become a reserve currency, and london would have gotten a share of everything. However, that would have destroyed the dollar, and that's why the americans wouldn't allow it. Thus, the brexit was a catastrophe for the bongs. Not only did they not get the yuan deal, they also lost the eu business to frankfurt.

>>512861029
I'm retarded, which way is the water flowing.

>>512866890
They aren't any more communist than you + I don't give a shit about any of that.
>we gotta crush them for over fishing!
You go die over there for that, retard. I'm not dying for day marriage and tree huggers. I don't want to bankrupt my country for trannies and immigrants. The chinks actually buy our minerals and make our goods so fuck off.

>>512866990
I'm not dying for Israel and fag marriage, kike

>>512867032
It's very interesting to hear this because I never heard anything of the sort back when it was happening, but of course something like that would be buried under the fervor of things like national sovereignty and whatnot. Personally I'm not a fan of the EU but I'm also not a fan of American backed regime change purely to bulwark their decaying hegemony while sacrificing the livelihoods of the British.

>>512867191
Oh I'm not dying for that. I said nuke them. Not invade them.

Should nuke you too since you don't think ecological collapse near your waters won't affect you.

>>512866988
If you can't understand what theyre doing right despite all the European successes of the last 500 years you weren't meant to survive past this century.
Hint: backstabbing, subversive jews don't own a single business or plot of land in china.

>>512867306
And I don't want to get nuked back, nigger.
I also don't want to mass murder people because I'm not a psychopathic heathen like the average american.

>>512866990
>>512867191
>hasn't pounded face yet.
NANCY PELOSI DEMANDS YOU BEAT YOURSELF IN THE FACE CHINK.

>>512867383
You don't have a choice. Thank you leftist China aligned government for that.

If you don't like it, you should have taken a stance against the bullshit happening in the South China sea over the last 20 years. Now you and your kids and grand kids get to watch as the great barrier reef withers and dies as China over fishes that.

>>512867383
>because I'm not a psychopathic heathen like the average american
Based. This is because of the pure bong blood, without the mixture of nigger and jewish blood.

>>512867383
>psychopathic heathens
>pissing on everything!
>everywhere they go!
>worse than jeets
who WOULDN'T want to stomp these insects back to yellow bugland??

>>512859192
that guy was found not guilty

>>512857997

When US bombed fordow, there were a lot of folks like this guy who claimed that the missiles and bombers involved have been specifically designed and evolved over the years to conduct specialized bombing on targets like Iran's nuclear site and 3 gorges dam.

US wants to bomb China using whatever pretexts to once again establish its and Israel's weapon supremacy. Taiwan, xinjiang, tibet , Philippines, etc are US stooges to allow for fake reasons to launch the war.

ALL SALUTE THE PLAN AND THEIR NAVIGATIONAL PROWESS!

>>512864079
patriots

>>512864079
>do nothing.
>win.

>>512870499
>patriots
You mean slaves. Duerte was the only independent period in the history of their country. But since you faggots love criminals and hate fascism, it's clear that you hate Duerte too.

>>512871325
wasnt he the guy hat won the elections saying that he would kill drug traffickers and now was arrested for killing drug traffickers?

>>512860433
Nigger it is stone and metal

>>512857636 (OP)
USA has no chance against China in Asia and Pacific
China can take over Taiwan at any time

>>512871564
He killed criminals and diminished american influence. That's why he had to go. Now the american-servile clan family is back in power, and the criminals are back on the streets.

>>512867910
>>512871955
>piss on shrine while rooking for problem in your country
>t. chang

>>512871946
Why take that risk? They just wait and get it without having to fire a shot.

>>512872414
Fuck off, usaid nigger.

>>512872508
abandon this thread like your PLAN comrades.

>>512862713
>not jamming sea chanties while chasing Filipino ships

NGMI

>>512857636 (OP)
it will be fixed in 2 months. Their shipyards are massive

>>512873114
the beautiful thing about humiliation.
it lasts for centuries.
even longer!

>>512860433
>It was designed specifically to withstand nuclear explosion
sure thing pingpong zhiabongding

>>512859859
The US only spends 3 percent of its GDP on defense, and even beyond that, its defense budget is bigger than the next ten countries combined. China ain’t doing shit.

>>512864544
The HAL Ajeet runs on poo. Chyna can never match India's poo output. Spr pwar!

>>512862081
You're assuming China didn't inflate numbers? They're weaker than how they look, and they already look weak from the beginning.

>>512857636 (OP)
Unless America has some force that can take on hypersonic missiles and drown swarms, in a few years, America will go down.

All it will take is the sinkging of carriers and that would be the end of the American empire. Consider that America withdrew from fighting yemanis after they had to use million dollar missiles to take on cheap drones. Now imagine 1000's of them.

I'm not so much pro China, and i hope that America has some nazi shit hidden away, and i bet it does. But America in its current state is just a mess, mixed race infantry and a military that is mixed race? Just a disaster in the making.

>>512862307
4000 years of comedy, no major naval achievements whatsoever. STFU about Zheng He, that castrated retard didn't win any wars.

>>512857636 (OP)
>It's china really a huge deal armamentistically to america in the zone (Asia) or it's just a papper tiger?
It's not a paper tiger since it has a huge military stationed in the region, regardless of the quality of said military. It also has a huge industry capable of pumping out massive quantities of military equipment as needed, which is a great feat in and of itself. Regardless of the gross exaggerations made about China's "military might" made through the years, they are still a big regional power.
>could it takes taiwan easly or it's going to be a shitshow?
China could not take Taiwan easily, no. They have certain security guaranties and they would never risk a most likely losing fight with the US, though both sides would most certainly end up very bruised in the process.

>>512860433
What an utterly ridiculous thing to say.

>>512862307
where in that timeless manual does it say to collide your own navy into each other?

>>512861273
keep coping ramirez

>>512859192
How many ameriniggers know the central place ships of that name play in the countries' fate? Since its inception, the first of her name being gifted by the king of France and named for the freemason, cryptojew and satanist Benjamin Franklin, it has always been the sacrificial victim of the USA's future and letting someone burn this one to the waterline and letting him go was more than a coincidence

>>512867910
Deflecting psychopath
Go die in Iran with your "brothers", faggot

>>512867594
Everyone has a choice because you have free will
Well, perhaps not amerigoyim. You're an unthinking violent drone.
I don't care about the south china sea. I want MY money to stop going to pissrael.

>>512867415
>siding with a race and national traitor
Good one warhawks! Why don't you worship kikes next.

>>512857636 (OP)
The chinese are too jewish to lead full scale war. They still have the gold the romans traded them for silks before the years of Christ and im not exaggerating

Americans humiliated

>>512857636 (OP)
Chinks can't drive

>>512877407
>>512877557
make sure to reply to all of them before your daily face pounding.

>>512873804
Correct. The US military budget is 3 times bigger than Chinas and growing faster.
They also have support from japan, south korea, taiwan, the philippines and probably india who have a combined military budget that is much larger than chinas as well.

>>512878555
>Correct. The US military budget is 3 times bigger than Chinas and growing faster.

Budget doesn't mean shit. Too many sunk cost faggotry going on, too much overcharging for stupid shit. Pure fucking greed. CCP makes sure non of that shit happens.

>>512860433
built with chinesium and the best cement-sand mixture available

>>512878292
He should of watched Karate kid

same old tired clichés trotted out by the usual suspect flags in every china thread.

3 gorges dam, net food importer etc etc.

china will surely disintegrate in 2 weeks

>>512857997
If you do that China will drop sole 200 odd nuclear warheads on America and ruin the country’s economic potential flr several decades. Not worth it. Also most of China will still be left even if you blow up the three gorges dam, most of their landmass isn’t in affected downstream areas and even if the flood and subsequent crisis killed 400 million people there’d still be over a billion chinks left, well bigger than America’s. It would completely destroy Chinese agriculture and be one of the worst catastrophes in human history, but the destruction of the dam alone would not be enough to destroy China. The subsequent American nuclear barrage might tho (if the administration chooses to respond full-on, launch on warning hasn’t been American policy since 97, it’s supposed to be flexible.)

>>512879469
>MOGGED BY UNCLE SAM

>>512861029
>Muh fake statistics totally made up for propaganda purposes

>>512858247
You are completely fucking retarded if you think America could not destroy the dam with for example a nuke, or saturation strikes from dozens of bombers. If the dam burst it would be the end of not just CCP but China as a country, swear to fucking god the shills on this board are fucking unbearable.

>>512871946
Half of PLAN ships are part of the auxiliary forces aka fishing boats kek

>>512880333
>trips
>333
>3*3 = 9
checked....

>>512858247
You actually don't need to excavate the whole dam like a crater, compromising it's structure would require like 1 billionth the power and the water would do the rest of the work.

Also the upstream dams would be attacked in any serious attempt to flood China, the pressure spike on the 3gd from the upstream dams collapsing would be worse than a million artillery shells.

>>512857997
>me if im wrong, but, isnt it easy to beat the US? Like, easier than any other country? Just because of their yellowstone vulcano. Activate that with a bomb and the US is done. Am I wrong?

>>512859674
China's military is 130 years out of date.

>>512880939
Enough mass would be ejected into the atmosphere to find its way to you. You may as well just say "let's blow up the earth to own Americans"

>>512880939
Except the 3 gorges dam is an actual disaster waiting to happen not a fantasy, and the US has the actual capacity to destroy it, meanwhile China's last long range missile test couldn't even hit the ten square miles they were aiming at.

>>512857636 (OP)
China is a paper tiger. Their military would fall apart in a few weeks. Just like its products.

>>512875692
If your "huge military" can't do anything but die, you are definitionally a paper tiger.

>>512857771
>mfw jews still exist

>>512881482
These hypotheticals go both ways. Which is why blowing up dams is frowned upon. You could literally turn off water to the west coast and everything out there would die within 72 hours.

>>512857636 (OP)
its pretty crazy that a bunch of people died and we are not hearing about it in the news

>>512881310
At least than no one would be crying about global warming anymore.

>>512860433
They fucking believe this shit... lmfao

>>512882163
China can't hit shit, and if they could, it wouldn't even matter.

>>512861033
This is unironically what the gutter oil people believe by the way

>>512882869
VGH...

>>512861029
Wow! Well if Chinaman said it it MUST be true!

>>512857636 (OP)
They've never actually been involved in modern war, which means they aren't going to be very good at it. This is what happens when your primary military focus is managing your own citizens, instead of fighting foreign entities.

>>512857636 (OP)
if that was any other ship it wouldve already sank
flipnigs think this shit is tough but theyd be the ones sinking if the chinese navy didnt stop the chinese coast guard from ramming their rickety ass boat

>>512857771
Erite Chinese engineeling

>>512857636 (OP)
>when you are strong, appear weak

>>512882869
War will be more than bombs. You don't need to aim a cyber attack.

>>512857997
US couldn't even properly bomb that Iranian nuke base. How the fuck could they successfully bomb that dam? Even Russia is having trouble bombing Ukrainian bridges and dams. It would need to be a nuke and by the time the US throws a nuke it's game over because China would nuke you back

>>512883144
Never, usaid nigger.

>>512878867
America has the three biggest air forces in the world and the best planes and pilots.
Cope.

>>512883420
I'm pretty sure that any destruction of the dam by america would lead to a nuclear response.

>>512883226
>**APPEARING WEAK INTENSIFIES**

>>512883541
Coast Guard is really holding back the pack desu

>>512857997
>break dam
>kill 300 million chinks
kinda based ngl

>>512857636 (OP)
It's a paper tiger. It has lots of infrastructure and industry, but it's still poor and weak.

>>512857636 (OP)
The US does this all the time. pic related as examples.

Difference is China can repair this within a few days once in drydock. The US it would take 18 weeks minimum.

>>512883886
Just embarassing yourself with that comment.

Especially when you look at the absolute state of ours.

>>512864000

They already are dealing with India. And Japan and Mongolia and Korea and the Philippines and Vietnam and Thailand and ... Almost the whole world. Even South American countries are tired of them fishing illegally in protected waters.

The military harassment, massive overfishing and damming of all rivers flowing to other countries has won them countless enemies, largely needlessly. They seem to be in a contest with the USA, Europe and Russia for who can kick their own ass the most. Europe is ahead, but don't underestimate China's ability to start wars and get it's ass handed to it. It has done so for 1000's of years. Imagine having a society that is 5000 years old and still being considered a "developing country".

>>512857636 (OP)
China is not and will never be a naval power. They are not genetically suited for the seas. Like Russias they are a landed people. The flip side is that you would never want to fight a land war in China.

>>512884155
Just two more mirrenia and the Chinese century will arrive

EGLIN?
HELLO???
MOTHER FUCKING
SIGN ME UP
>THE CHINKINATOR
>THE HUMILIATOR
>RUNNING THIS THREAD
>LIKE ITS MY COURT

>>512882869
Unironically This happened to Rome, but with disease instead of nuclear bombs.

Flips are a maritime peoples. Their fingers and toes are webbed and some of them have evolved larger spleens to deal with longer dives.

>>512859382
Tens of thousands of kilograms

China could end drug shipments and tens of millions would die, with no ability for the US to get alternative drugs or raw material sources elsewhere for ages.
It would devastate the entire healthcare sector and would reserve it only for the richest people, which would end up causing massive civil wars.
China is way more of a threat due to the centralized manufacturing they've been given, than what they could ever be militarily.
But of course no one talks about that, because people would realize how seriously fucked up of a situation the entire West is currently in, because of exporting the manufacturing.

>>512859824
Cope. Iran got btfo

>>512884186
I accept your concession on the first part, but refute the latter. all chinksects can and WILL be stomped.

why did chinks even build these if they are just going to collide and run aground?

>>512884927
Just like Kevin Costner in that movie Oceanorb

>>512885118
Look at Chinese history. They are masters at getting invaded, making the invaders feel welcome, and then lulling the invaders into degeneracy. China is not some place you want to occupy.

>>512884186
>never want to fight a land war in *Asia
based reference tho

>>512883674
lel

>>512884186
Based geopoliticist

>>512885677

These could be invaluable in humanitarian situations or when used hundreds of miles from a frontline. Militarily, they are fucking dumb as China intends to use them. You are never going to be able to use this in contested space like Taiwan. Big ass immobile targets full of oil and bombs with all eggs in three big lightly defended baskets. Hit the baskets and the battle is over. The same experts who shit on aircraft carriers will no doubt think this even dumber shit is genius.

>>512879092
>>512875856
>>512873778
you try to mock this magificent sctructure yet it still stand。
And it will stay because it was designed to last unlike western shit designed to wear fast
you can bark all you want but all of you just loose face dont know why I have to repeat myself but DAM WAS DESIGNED TO WITHSTAND NUCLEAR ATTACK the engineers had that in mind when designing it it is really marvelous construcion that maybe pyramids are similarly majestic

>>512858247
We learned during /TGDG/ that it isn't even anchored to the bedrock and is already structurally compromised due to corrosive water pollution. It could collapse on its own very easily within a decade.

>>512887678
turing TGDG we learned that you wasted huge amount of time watching dam that function normally even during heavy rain and also that ta*wan people cant draw at all

>>512888234
Yeah, it's totally normal when you publish nonsensical water level data, flood an entire province's rice harvest to control water levels, and then it still rises to within a ball hair of its rated failure point. That was just a handful of autists manifesting it after seeing a garbled satellite image of the dam. Just wait until things really get hot.

>>512858769
>not landing on full thrust
An arrester failure is easily survivable by going around, but you have to firewall the throttles before you hit the deck so the engines are spooled.

>>512857636 (OP)
>armamentistically
You made that up