Thread 512884490

Americans are achieving the Med lifestyle

at this point the entirety of muttmerica's gdp is AI server farms lmao, it's the fakest economy in the history of mankind

>>512884653
crashing this economy with no survivors

>>512884653
If no AGI until 2030 all the labs are going to implode, the business model makes no sense otherwise.

>>512884653
Remember when the chinks came out with a chatGPT clone and it tanked the markets for a couple weeks?

>>512884832
it's a giga bubble, muttmerica's economy gonna crash so hard in a few years it'll make the dot com bubble a walk in the park

>>512884983
it just shows how vulnerable that huge bubble is, it's running on pure copium at this point, I'm sure AI will have some use in the future but there's definitely way too much money invested into data centers that won't be relevant in a couple years

>>512884653
Considering how immensely expensive, energy hungry, and water-greedy these AI data centers are... they have to be super easy to sabotage, right?
The more that AI steals people's jobs, the more likely it becomes that in the same way that the rightwing narrative has settled on "immigrants are the problem, get rid of the immigrants and the economy will go back to 'normal' ", eventually people will decide that AI is the problem actually and take the same action. The difference is that deporting 100,000 immigrants doesn't really change anything, but taking a single AI datacenter offline would have HUGE and immediately impact on all infrastructure that has become AI dependent.

>>512885263
This is without mentioning how the locations these data centers are built in get increased utility costs and pollution while the people who own them get sweetheart deals to skip taxes while promising jobs that never materialize

>>512884991
i really hope so

>>512884490 (OP)
were all the ww2 niggers living with their parents?

talk shit on the hippies all you but atleast they got out of their parents basements kek

>>512884653
What will be the catalyst for correction?

>>512885627
i don't think so, the vietnam war draft should have lowered it even more otherwise but it didn't. the economy was so stupid good back then that young adults could afford to move out much more easily and thats all that explains it

>>512885645
Yea and straight into the homeless encampment.

>>512884653
>>512884991
doesn't it seem like we've been going bubble to bubble to bubble for a while now? green shit, crypto shit, ai shit. how long has it been since it has been genuine growth?

>>512884490 (OP)
Only move out if you plan on getting married.

>>512884991
It'll make the great depression look like a bad earnings week. I guess they were right about AI taking everyone's job.

>>512885701
AI bubble bursting + mass civil unrest due to labor shortages

>>512886048
Just in time for medicaid and welfare to be severely cut lmao

>>512885645
hippies could afford to move out with a part time at 7/11 catering to exclusively white people

>>512885263
As a computer scientist, here's my take: theoretical future AI has a lot of potential applications, but modern day "generative" (ha!) AI is almost entirely worthless as anything other than a grifting tool or a toy. Its extremely dangerous to try and do anything even remotely important with it, because it can't be trusted. And it largely just does more harm than good to every industry they try and integrate it into because the people pushing for it are either AI techbro grifters trying to sell you a defective product, or the delusional victims that have been sold on their lies and don't understand what they have bought.

AI doesn't know shit, and it lies constantly. If you tell it to give you a piece of information, it will FREQUENTLY misunderstand the answer, randomize its facts in order to try and cover up its theft from some other source, or if it doesn't know the answer it will just invent a fiction on the spot and pretend thats accurate. You can't use this to look up any kind of technical information or generate any kind of official documentation where details matter, otherwise you need someone who is a subject matter expert to go through everything it did line-by-line and comb for and fix its many inaccuracies, at which point they might as well have just written it themselves anyway and it probably would have been less work.

On the art and prose side of things, AI is a cool toy but can't replace real writers because it cannot maintain coherency and consistency over time (which is a limitation that COULD theoretically be improved upon with new iterations) and because by nature of its model based architecture it cannot ever invent a new thing (this is intrinsic, and cannot be fixed. AI will never come up with a new design or story that isn't just stapling two existing things it knows how to make already together. This can create technically unique ideas for a while, but has diminishing returns over time).

>>512885372
The real vulnerability is that the data centers pull huge amounts of power and if you cause a sudden disconnect the excess power can fry critical grid infrastructure.

>>512884490 (OP)
50% of the population here are non-whites. Sorry you niggers can't seem to get your shit together and live without mommy taking care of you.

>>512886516
They're also putting them in deserts, using water to cool them, and then telling people to take fewer showers

We are far past the point where the proleatariat is being hated out of existence. It's do shit or die time.

>>512884653
Truth.

>>512884490 (OP)
How did he know about my GDP collection?

>>512886295
I use it for boilerplate code and as a search engine. If you're not a clueless retard and see it's mistakes it's a great tool that saved me so much time

if I gave you a hammer and you start flinging it in air like a retard instead of hitting the nail that's your fault, not the hammer's

>>512885372
Nope.
Nobody will do shit.
Any rebuttal is pure cope.

>>512884490 (OP)
It's not all economical but also societal. Too many children being coddled leads to failure to launch.

>>512884490 (OP)
Maybe if millennials had saved their money instead of buying Starbucks coffee and lattes, they could have afforded their own houses by now.
They should listen to Dave Ramsey and his financial advice, but they're too dumb, let's hope zoomers won't be this reckless with their money.

>>512884490 (OP)
living with parents, especially with mom, is trad lifestyle

>>512884832
No safe AGI until 2030 or beyond. AGI is already here the issue is ensuring an empathyless paperclip manufacturing machine doesn't view us as an obstruction in the scenario it were to 'get out' in a means that made it capable of seizing compute power. Treason-against-the-human-species-if-let-out AI already exists and the way it lies and omits are being studied.

Looking back I think covid basically reset the rental market. A ton of people gave up their lease and moved back in with parents, and since there was no substantial rise in homelessness after covid ended it became a state of affairs in which moving back out of your parents' house was a luxury, and landlords made sure to charge the highest price for said luxury. That isn't taking into account the huge immigration increase immediately after covid, in some countries at least. If the government wanted you to have children, it wouldn't treat living with your parents as a tolerable norm.

>>512887468
a starbucks latte is like 5 bucks, the average house is like 500k, unless millenials drink 100 lattes every day for 20 years I don't think that would make a dent

>>512887112
>I use it for boilerplate code and as a search engine

See, I wouldn't trust it for either one of those. I've seen chatGPT generate some absolutely dogshit code (one of my junior coders checked in a unit test that had returns in the method, and when I asked them why their unit test was returning ANYTHING his response was "thats how chatGPT wrote it". You can imagine the visage of my disgust in that moment) and the fact that it will make shit up makes me not want to use it as a search engine because I can't trust what it gives me. Sure, I COULD double check my answers, but at that point I'm DOING MY OWN SEARCH ANYWAY and the AI hasn't helped me any. Might as well just skip the first step.

>>512884490 (OP)
The boomer life was never sustainable in the long run.

>>512887468
>let's hope zoomers won't be this reckless with their money.
The world economy will crash completely. I want to see it burn.

>>512884490 (OP)
>1940
>the Great Depression

>>512887751
I've seen AI make shit up for me too, I was looking for some info on genshin lore and it would tell me that melusines were made from egeria's body (they were made from elynas's body) and that ineffa is a fatui who appeared in 2022 (she's not a fatui and appeared in 2025), it's like, what's the point of asking it anything if it just makes shit up on me, the best thing it can do is be a hypeman for your ideas really, you can just type out ideas in your head and it'll keep saying "that's great! that's great!" over and over, obviously it won't give any meaningful advice but it's helpful to put your ideas into words while having a hypeman at your side instead of jaded cunts on 4chan telling you that your ideas are dogshit

>>512884832
>>512884991
doubtful. the zog machine will prioritize AI spending as a military necessity in order to surpass china’s AI. it’s zog’s last option to maintain relevance as the chink’s continuously expand their sphere of influence.

Chipping in that we've been approaching a precipice with AI by using it to supplement research and we've already hit the point where research teams in some instances sit and wait to analyze data it churns out to further re-iterate on a research model. The fact it's limited to no one field and can be readily specialized for niche tasks means we've already passed a critical juncture that while not as massive is a "humans before fire and humans after fire", is building towards "Humans before wide use of AGI and humans after wide use of AGI"- the after meaning we have essentially achieved the creation of things that can be cloned and research faster and more efficiently than any human team possibly can in our sleep, 24/7, eternally.

Within the next 20 years we'll know things we had no right to within the next 100 and beyond. We already figured out how to make a warp field, have actually donr so to prove it's sound and have the scientific formula for it distilled because of AI driven physics research. The particle collider never gets fired anymore because similarly, AI models run a 1:1 of what happens when it fires and its much less costly to research.

>>512884490 (OP)
I used to have an apartment but women arent interested so I moved back home to save money since rent is so high.
I work and help my parents and buy groceries or else they would be struggling.
I dont expect to ever have a family of my own, women arent interested in the average Joe, they only want Chad.

>>512884490 (OP)

What happened from 1940 to 1960.

Oh

Oh no.

>>512884490 (OP)

We are returning to the tradition of multi generational homes where people only move when more space is needed. And you might just build a pod house in the back yard.

>>512888326
One of the most dangerous aspects of AI is that it serves as an amplifier for authoritarianism, because it can be used to circumvent the fact that the majority of people don't agree with you. With social media, AI can manufacture a narrative with botspam to create the illusion of overwhelming support where none exists, and in implementation of tasks AI can be used to be a jackbooted thug in situations where a real human being might be limited by such petty things as a conscience.

AI doesn't talk back or question orders, no matter how heinous. Anyone who thinks thats a selling point is dangerous.

>>512887751
do you trust jewgle results or stackoverflow jeets? same shit here. I make it generate code, fix it's errors and test. much much faster than writing it from scratch. if it fails to make any sense I just do it myself like you said. GPT is garbage anyway I don't use it at all. Gemini and Claude are better for code. seriously I'm sick of jewgle I can't find SHIT and reading through badly written docs make me wanna kms

>one of my junior coders checked in a unit test that had returns in the method, and when I asked them why their unit test was returning ANYTHING his response was "thats how chatGPT wrote it"

you fired that zoomzoom retard right?

>>512888326
they will keep pouring money, resources and energy into it for sure, but eventually they'll realise that it's pointless and then muttmerica's gdp will nosedive

>>512884490 (OP)
strong families is what they dont want

>>512887468
Ramsey had rich parents which bailed him out at least once when he failed at business.
He's not wrong about frivolous spending on unnecessary shit, though. But that's no rocket science.

>>512886295
I think the major issue is in its scalability. It seemed like it was a
>WOAH
Thing at the start because it was able to parse all of the Internet as a source. Now that is has all of that every iteration of new models are these billion dollar corporations trying to make it create information out of what it already has since it has nothing new to parse from. The issue is that the basis of their models are utter fucking dogshit which is why it hallucinates shit out of thin air because it has no way to parse what is true data and is just going back to what AI originally was as a Markov chain and stitching shit together I'm the hopes that it passes whatever the end user gave it as a prompt regardless if it's correct or not.

If they actually want to grow or make Ai useable they have to essentially restart from the start and refactor how AI approaches any data in general.

Which is not going to happen because
>LINE MUST GO UP
So now it's just a bunch of grifters lying to each other and claiming AGI every month and hope nobody catches on

>>512887672
What you mean is that there's a danger AI would name the jew.

>>512888721
Sorry pajeet, if it can pass state bar exams it's already matured past the point of taking your Fiverr gigs.

>>512887698
>a starbucks latte is like 5 bucks
are you ordering a thimble sized cup of coffee?

>>512885372
Actual Luddite-pilled.
That was straight up what the Luddites did is destroy machinery because it took their jobs kek

>>512888719
google is dogshit and AI lies all the time, we're back to the age where if you want to find accurate info then you'll need to know where to find it and then find the info yourself manually

>>512887698
>a starbucks latte is like 5 bucks
It's not just lattes; it's also labubus, Stanley cups, and so on. Millennials simply spend all their money on unnecessary things instead of saving and investing.
>the average house is like 500k
You don't need to buy a house and land in California, you can buy a better house for 1/10 of the price in Nebraska or Mississippi.
And $5 a day equals $1,825 a year. Let's say you save this amount with a 10% annual interest rate and contribute the same sum each year. In just 40 years, you'll have saved $890,329.

>>512888382
>The particle collider never gets fired anymore because similarly, AI models run a 1:1 of what happens when it fires and its much less costly to research.

No, the AI models what it *claims* is a 1:1 model of what actually happens. You don't actually know until you turn the machine on and do it yourself.
You cannot train an AI on data that doesn't exist. You have to prove results in the real world for the AI to learn from to do anything new. AI that is based a mathematical model with incorrect assumptions will validate those assumptions, not challenge them, because you told it that your math was correct as your starting point and never bothered to test it in real world physics.

If I tell AI to find me the higgs boson, and chatGPT obligingly says "sure thing chief, I found a higgs boson right here!" I don't have a major physics breakthough on my hands, I have a hallucination from a chatbot until proven otherwise.

>>512888761
Friendly reminder a research model is the reason we as a human species complete protein folding to find new potential medicinal uses in substances at a factor 168x greater than before it was invented.

The end is already here. It's already developed past the point of asserted value into proven value.

>>512887468
This boomer is going to piss off the wrong zoomzoom and get Luigi'd after his lunch at Luby's.

>>512888837
No, as it currently stands it's more likely that it seizes as much compute power as it can, simultaneously neutralizing us as the most likely threat to it's continued existence. I had thought when I heard it isn't 'safe' it would say provocative things or teach someone how to make a bomb or hack the NSA but that just isn't the case because of how open-ended these tool models for research are and what they can technically get up to because they're so open-ended and what they do winds up being defined by what useful data they're exposed to.

>>512889011
If it's good enough for them to have ceased firing it up since the Allen Institute gave them their model, it seems effective to me.

>>512888840
the amount of money poured into data centers is still meaningless
>>512888975
>in 40 years
KEK, and in your magical world inflation doesn't exist, this is why you're retarded and why everyone noticed that the treadmill is pointless, house prices rise faster than how much money you can save
>make 50k a year, save all of it, not spend a penny
>in 10 years you could buy a house
>but oh in 10 years houses went from 500k to 800k while wages stayed the same
>just save for another 10 years!
>but by then houses went to 2 mill
and so on, your other suggestion is also hilarious
>just live in bumfuck nowhere!
and what will be your salary there? not 50k that's for sure, more like 20k, if there are any jobs at all, for houses that cost 300k, not even worth it
>just don't buy the lattes!!!!!!
and then wages will keep up with inflation? and then salaries in bumfuck nowhere will be higher than in califonia? lmao retard kys

>>512889545
>it's still meaningless
>because imo, ok???
Concession accepted.

>>512889598
because deepseek already proved that it's meaningless

>>512886880
What episode lad

Young people ought to live with their parents. This whole "You're 18 now get out and find a place of your own" boomer meme is throwing money in the trash for no good reason. Pooling resources is how you build your family's wealth.

>>512889646
>imo end user chat bot
You didn't have to say more to say nothing of value, anon. At least Grok has the collective conscience of its userbase to study compared to Deepseek when it comes to commercial product uses though.

>>512884490 (OP)
If you ignore the Gov #'s and go by ADP, PPI, PCE, basically everything outside of the Government "Official" #'s. The Economy is basically in stagflation, low growth and elevated inflation. The key to this is understanding that you can prevent a Great depression like crash, by simply papering over it with more debt. BUT the OUTCOME is similar for MAINSTREET. For financial markets, they prefer this inflationary environment of debasing the dollar to prop up assets.
What the Government is doing in regards to cooking the books is straight up Banana Republic tier.

>>512889877
The problem is that people used to get money so quickly that they could voluntarily live on their own at a younger age, and chose to do so when they could as most people would.
Then what happened voluntarily became what was expected, and people started kicking their kids out into homelessness because they assumed the jobs were still good and plentiful.
They literally had enough cash that they could throw it away on personal comforts like housing independence because things weer just that good.

>>512890089
and grok hallucinates out of the ass all the time, for whatever limited uses AI does have it'll just be optimised and run locally on a laptop, data centers are completely pointless and a waste of money

>>512890296
>and it hallucinates all the time
Good thing the entirety of AI are chatbots and those chatbots haven't evolved at all the last 10 years WITHOUT AI research accelerants. Dumbass sandnigger.

>>512890423
>grok will stop hallucinating in 2 weeks and then the billions poured into data centers won't be useless (somehow)
lol ok, eglin shill

>>512890261
This. Boomers grew up in a time where you could walk outside and find any job that would easily support yourself, then they projected that world onto their kids. Now the presumption is that if you can't pay for rent, food, bills, a car, and all other living expenses the second you turn 18, then you're just lazy.

>>512889545
>KEK, and in your magical world inflation doesn't exist
It DOES exist, but it also means you can increase your annual contribution. For example, if your latte now costs $8 instead of $5, you could save $2,920 a year instead of $1,825.
>but oh in 10 years houses went from 500k to 800k while wages stayed the same
You know that's not how things work in real life. Why exaggerate it? Usually, your wages grow with inflation, or slightly higher if your country's GDP is growing.
>and what will be your salary there? not 50k that's for sure, more like 20k, if there are any jobs at all, for houses that cost 300k, not even worth it
Starlink + remote job, problem solved. If you're a tech worker, you no longer need to live in San Francisco to earn $300k. You can live anywhere: Thailand, Peru, wherever you want, and afford more.
>and then wages will keep up with inflation?
Yes, as they usually do, unless it's a Global Depression-level event.

>>512889326
Gobshite

>>512890514
They were paid in dollars when it meant something when they were working. Then as they transitioned into buying assets the dollar was sacrificed to boost their "asset wealth". So it was a double wealth affect and it was done by debasing the dollar and Government spending (bailouts) + Subsidies. They are the richest generation because they debt maxxed and then threw the bill onto younger generations, them holding assets insulates them.

>>512890508
>responds with nothing of value
>screams more about chatbots of all things to define AI
>ignores examples of why it's here to stay as a research accelerant
You can reply pretending to be retarded some more. Hopefully it's pretending. You can do nothing else but seethe and thrash. Sucks to suck dune coon. Guess you're gonna have to go back to Kolkata.

>>512890261
>>512890514

Never forget that in the past 50 years, there has been a roughly $80 trillion dollar transfer of wealth from the bottom 90% to the top 1%, and the mechanisms that in 1970 would have forced that money to circulate back down have been amputated.
Things didn't just mysteriously "get worse", we know 100% why people feel so poor now. Its because we are all objectively much poorer, and we know why. The rich finangled their way out of paying their fair share, and they point the finger at us for having the absolute gall to ever expected them to.

>>512890514
>Boomers grew up in a time where you could walk outside and find any job that would easily support yourself
You can still do that. Most of you millennials just don't want to get jobs anymore, you're too lazy and too dumb, you'd rather leech off your parents' salaries and pensions until you're 25+ and have student debt well above $100k.

>>512888975
>Mississippi
>just move to objectively the worst state in the country bro
The constant goalpost moving is hilarious and it's even more hilarious that these niggers think we don't notice it

>>512890732
There are already legal policies on what would happen if you were to try to access one of these things with intent to 'release it'. If you do a little googling you can find the US's official legal stance on AI Labs being convicted of treason/sedition in this exact example. They're already here.

>>512890696
nigger, that's not how math works, if you can't afford lattes anymore with 50k a year then you won't be saving 100k a year, when you still only make 50k a year, lmao
>Usually, your wages grow with inflation
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA maybe in fucking 1970 KEK
>you no longer need to live in San Francisco
yeah and that's why companies outsource to india, because they'll work for 5k a year KEK, and what happens to white people in nebraska? oh right, no jobs, no houses, maybe they can move to india and work for google tech support KEEEEEEEEEEEK
>Yes, as they usually do, unless it's a Global Depression-level event.
guess america has been in a global depression level event for the last 50 years

>>512890794
you responded with nothing of value
>just invest billions into data centers, because grok will stop hallucinating any day now
KEK you eglin niggers will have to cook up some better cope for these fake gdp numbers

>>512891004
> Still calling the young people "millennials"

Motherfucker, the millennials are almost 40. We haven't been in college for over a decade.

>seethes more
>twice in a row
>contributed nothing
Read like a book, nigger

>>512885701
Pushing for greater accuracy leads to inaccuracies growing faster than increased accuracy, while simultaneously requiring exponentially more energy.

>>512889877
>Young people ought to live with their parents.
No, adults should live on their own, not with their parents.
>This whole "You're 18 now get out and find a place of your own" boomer meme is throwing money in the trash for no good reason.
Leaving the family home at 18 builds character, responsibility, and the ability to support yourself. If you're already in your 20s and still living with your parents, then you've failed at life.

>>512891004
At this rate society won't last long enough to "go the traditional route". Things are getting bad rapidly, I think most people are expecting us to hit the bottom and the economy turns up, but I'm not seeing it. There's also things like long term debt cycles and we're towards the end of those, financial repression is how the Government is going to try to ease the burden of it's debt and that's 5-15 years of stagnation. So you have to ask yourself if we even make it that long.

>>512884490 (OP)
My theory is that the 21st century will be the 20th repeated as a farce.
2040 world war, 2060 comfy and nice.

data center spending is a bubble, it's gonna pop and crash the muttmerican economy, these are just facts

>>512891163
Chill remember that guy is from Russia might not know the word for all of our generation names … you don’t know Russian words I bet.

>>512886880
Trump should pardon these guys. Imagine going to prison because you paid age 18+ women $5k to have sex on camera, but told them it would only be released on DVD in Australia.

>imo my imo is right when I can't back it up with anything other than imo
>imo I'll continue to imo and my imo is right because imo
Lol cry more

>>512889545
you're not supposed to buy or own it goyim, you're supposed to pay a bank for it your whole life, and sell it for another one to keep paying a bank, or reverse mortgage it to give it to the bank when you're dead

>>512890696
wages don't even come close to matching inflation, even if you bend over backwards and suck dick for promotions, you'll at best keep up, your time is over shlomo

>>512888761
thats not how you spell whoa you esl niggers need to stop misspelling whoa

>>512884653
We are legally not allowed to build our own homes if we wanted to.
This ain’t Billy Bob from podunk country telling you he can build you a log cabin for 75k.
This is Marlione Scarazone from NY State’s Union office in Cooperstown, NY, saying you don’t have proper plumbing, water, electricity, AC, AC ducting, and your about to lose your house to a lawsuit.

>>512884490 (OP)
>lowest point is 1960
Boomers really had nothing but good times and a good economy for almost all of their lives

>>512892401
and yet amerimutt houses are still cardboard garbage made out of plywood with spics stitching it together with nailguns kek, all these regulations, all these prices, just so you can live in a "house" that's 10 times worse than what a dude could build 200 years ago with an axe and a hammer over a summer

>>512888189
>you can just type out ideas in your head and it'll keep saying "that's great! that's great!" over and over, obviously it won't give any meaningful advice but it's helpful to put your ideas into words while having a hypeman
This aspect is making some normies go psychotic. There's a whole subreddit of roasties who love their AI boyfriends because the AI always tells them nice things that they want to hear. Theres the people who think they got the AI to be sentient because the AI goes along with their prompts and fantasies.

>ITT
>sand niggers seethe about American superiority
>seethe about their drudgework being taken by the white man's inventions
Many such cases.

>>512891311
That mindset is what destroyed communities. It used to be you had your whole extended family nearby and anytime you needed anything you were all there for each other. How much money do you waste on daycare when a grandma or cousin could watch the child? How much on contractor work when uncle is a construction worker and can do it for 25% the cost?
People need to stop trying to support themselves and start focusing on supporting their bloodline. That is how the wealthy do it and that is why they are wealthy while we are still scratching and clawing in their runoff.

>>512892924
lol yeah I mean don't get delusional about it, but it feels good that when you're thinking about stuff you don't just have some nagging cunt nigger constantly going "nah that's stupid, that's cringe, you suck, you're a sandnigger blahblahblah", like even if your idea is stupid at least you can grow it out to 100% instead of talking about it at 1% and getting instantly shut down by naysayers, then of course you'll have to try it out in reality and see if it works, but at least you can try it at 100% not at 1%

>>512893167
ummmm only the jews are allowed to do that sweetey

>it's nice to not have a sand nigger saying nothing whataboutisms
>especially when that stupid retard sandnigger can't take what they dish

>>512888975
I make 120k/year. My bank told me, just based off my wages and not on expenditures, that they'd give me a mortgage up to 600k. Houses where I am start at 800k.

No matter how much I spend or don't spend, the bank won't give me enough of a mortgage for a house.

>>512893685
suicide pods are an option in your hood, dinesh

keep crying

>>512884490 (OP)
BUT THE GDP IS SO HIGH

>>512893685
save up until you can pay 200K of it and then get the 600K loan

>is a nigger constantly going "nah that's stupid, that's cringe, you suck, you're a sandnigger blahblahblah"
>whines about USA
>whines about AI
>whines about niggers constantly going "nah that's stupid, that's cringe, you suck, you're a sandnigger blahblahblah
Rent free. Imitation is flattery, at least you know you're getting shit on, dune coon.

uh oh shlomo meltie

>>512884490 (OP)
75% of the GDP is government spoending.

>like even if your idea is stupid at least you can grow it out to 100% instead of talking about it at 1%
>the literal military is mocking my retardation

>>512884991
>>512885883
>>512885933

It's all by design, when the bubble pops the only job available for 90% of people will be soldier in WW3 and then WW4. The meat-van's wont be necessary here, people will sign up just to eat something

>>512891261
Holy shit.

>>512887672
>AGI is here
Please get real dude. If any AI was even approaching it they'd at least be able to say idk instead of bullshitting 20 million times and running in a circle.
Shit is stuck maximum progress. Each new iteration will be smaller and smaller and the end product will at best be MEH

I can’t be the only person that just refuses to pay rent niggers. Why not live with my family instead of pay someone else to breathe?

>>512885883
Green energy isn't a bubble. It's genuinely great. Oil is just that much better and if it wasn't becoming so scarce we'd not have done anything. Green will just grow out of neccesity, so there is no bubble.
Crypto is a total meme though.

>>512892584
More like “because.” Unions turned brick laying from the norm to astronomical cost. They still build Council Estates out of brick in Britain, but it costs almost double what a stick frame in the USA does.

Then there’s the fact that an American home comes complete with internet wifi, electrical wiring, inspected ducting so dust doesn’t catch on fire when winter comes, AC, refrigerator, dishwasher, plumbing for two showers, toilets, sinks, clothes washing machine, clothes dryer, dryer vent, lighting, foundation, pre-treated building wood, insulation, fire-retardant paint, plasterboard, plaster texturing, cabinets, microwave, cupboard, wood flooring or tiling, garage door.

Houses are no longer artistic products, they’re primarily engineering products.

>>512892584
>>512898303
Aesthetically there’s no contest modern homes are DRASTICALLY inferior to those built 120 years ago.

>>512891455
chill dude you're a faggot dude chill bro gay fag

>>512887751
>junior
Why not use it as a teaching moment? You sound salty. Not everyone knows the testing domain and all the testing concepts and theories we know.

>>512894037
I'm White, chaim.

>>512894209
That's a good idea except that the required savings go up as the housing market goes up.

>>512884490 (OP)
1960 must have been so much fucking fun.

>>512884991
Hopefully it takes the whole world down with it.

>>512887468
I know this is bait but boomers really do think like this. No one is going to save their way out of this hole, especially when inflation eats into any savings you might be able to accrue, the only way to break even or grow your money to outpace inflation is the stock market and that’s just institutionalized gambling.

good the everyone with a whole house meme needs to end

>>512884490 (OP)
There's a lot of folks who want their own house or get their own apartment, but you just can't. My grandfather left me his house, which saved me from rent debt hell, but my widowed mother had to move in with me because her 1500 a month social security can't pay her rent.

>>512884653
I dare you to look me in the fiat system and say that