Thread 512887899

liberals, tell me why this is actually a bad thing
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2025/aug/12/illegal-immigrant-population-16-million-trump-crackdown/

>>512887899 (OP)
cool like 2% of the way there

>>512888243
>2 million is 2%
how many illegals do you think there are here?

>>512888456
50 million

>>512887899 (OP)
>Cheap foreign labour is driving our our wages!
>Then we should demand better pay for all workers, foreign or local, from the elites who use them, right?
>NOOOOOOOO that's literal gommunism . Kick the forens out that'll surely solve the problèm of greedy elites

Why are rightoids like this

>>512888505
1/6 of the US population isn't illegal. I'd say there are 30 million illegals in the US, which puts us at 5.3% of the way there.

>>512888505
ok but you understand that's 4% right?
I think there's about 30 million. about 1.6 million would be about 5% and in 6 months that's bullish as fuck.

>>512888773
you forgot your memeflag

>>512888773
Your flaw there is that you want illegals still part of the equation when in reality we correct two issues (illegals in the country and illegals depressing wages) with one stone.

lol, OP
the liberals will say, and I quote,
"BECAUSE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS VOTE FOR LIBERAL DEMOCRATS"
you're giving the liberals too much credit
liberals are just animals, they're a pest

>>512888969
>we correct two issues (illegals in the country

And why is this an issue in the first place?
>Hard mode: no irrational bigotry

I shan't quibble about percentages or numbers, I however, must declare "get them the fuck out."

>>512887899 (OP)
would but she’s done up more and I’m two sheets

NO ILLEGALS
NO SPICS
NO NIGGERS
NO MICKS
NO ITALIANS

MAGA

>>512889199
>bigotry
>irrational
You smell and you scam and you shit in the street. Get the fuck out.

>>512889288
NO CHINKS OR GOOKS EITHER.

>>512887899 (OP)
Because we need poor brown people picking our crops for nearly no pay!

>>512889154
They won't say that out loud but they know it's true. It's why they got so pissy when they learned Mexicans were voting for trump, because they thought of they gave brown people free stuff they'd get their vote. It's literally just racism on their part.

>>512889288
>>512889328
But kikes are okay because you need someone to worship

>>512888773
Republicans are Republicans shrug. They only keep democrats propped up as scapegoats and for laughs.

>>512889783
if Trump is pro Israel then so am I.
MAGA

>1.6 million
Is that number even real?
They havent published the stats in months

>>512889199
I don't want stinky quat stupid brown people who refuse to assimilate or even learn the language be here illegally to soak up our resources and undercut the job market.

>>512890132
2.2 million foreigners in general
>The foreign-born population of the United States declined by 2.2 million people since January, according to an analysis from the Center for Immigration Studies (CIS).
>That figure includes an estimated 1.6 million illegal aliens. The CIS based its report on Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) data and suggested that much of the exodus stemmed from self-deportations driven by the Trump administration's immigration crackdown.
https://justthenews.com/government/security/foreign-born-population-has-dropped-22-million-january-report

>>512888825
It feels like it's way higher than that. Spanish, Arabic, and Hindu are the only languages spoken in public anymore. It wouldn't surprise me if it wasn't closer to 100 million.

There are filthy browns everywhere that you look nowadays.

>>512888825
The official number as of 2000 was 11 million. 50 million probably not far off at all. Areas I grew up around are noticeably browner

>>512890315
11 million was from the mid 2000s iirc, I could see another 10 million here from the mid 2000s to Biden, and then another 10 million just during Biden.
I think it's around 30 million desu. 50 million is too high but clearly >10 million illegals is just silly to repeat.

>>512890183
>soak up our resources
Contributing labour to create resourceful value in the first place to exchange for other resources seems like a fair trade.

>undercut the job market
>Corporations will magically become less greedy when forens are out

>>512890645
illegals are paid below the normal wages so it depresses wages, when they're gone americans get the jobs and are paid above normal wages due to the shortage of workers.
this isn't hard.

>>512887899 (OP)
What i don't understand about liberals in USA, they all love obama even though during his rule they deported 10 million and also he put a ton of them in cages but hate trump just because he is rude even though he has done far less than Obama did.

>>512888773
many actually suggested that as a means to end the h1b crisis, forcing companies to pay a premium or minimum for h1b workers that means you really do only get the best and brightest.

>>512888773
>Tp
>Tf
Heh

>>512890865
He didn't. He changed the definition of deportation so it inflated the numbers. They tried to make him look like he was tough on the border when in reality he was subverting it.
NOTHING like Biden though. Back in the day (2010s lol), the left used to actually larp like they were agreeable because they wanted to actually get the votes before subverting things. Biden ditched that after the elite felt attacked by the people for not voting for Hillary and just rammed everything through without popular consent.
That's why the 2024 election was such a backlash Trump won the fucking popular vote, something no one expected the GOP to do ever again lol.

>>512888773
Patasite removal tends to increase the host's health. If you hate yt, stay in your fucking country.

>>512890798
>His solution is artificial scarcity

Lol. For people who harp on about free markets all day long rightoids do show abysmal understanding of how businesses work

>>512890645
Shitskins dont contribute overall in the US - well, they dont do anywhere else either, but the US has data on it.

>>512887899 (OP)
No more tacos and burritos

>>512891863
It's not artificial you idiot
>>512891986
You may be trolling, but liberals unironically think every single latino person here is illegal lol

>>512888773
yes, cheap labour is ruining everything

>>512887899 (OP)
Oh, so now we know how many there are.

>>512892115
Not necessarily, we know how many have left so far.

>>512887899 (OP)
59 million to go

>>512891077
magatards really think the jews will allow the gentiles to get rid of their brown army

>>512892195
>memeflag

>>512892397
you know im right

>>512892418
the fact is we ARE getting rid of their brown army, you can seethe about it if you want

I voted for this btw

>>512890871
That would betray the very point of having H1Bs in the first place. I'm sure US has no shortage of talent.
>only get the best and brightest.
That matters to companies only upto a point. Bottom line is king and the very suggestion that removing dei hires and jewish daycare women will improve productivity will get you blacklisted

>>512891077
biden didn't do shit. that's the problem. he was asleep.

>>512891928
Now adjust this against the revenue of small businesses and big corporations who employ Hispanic and black workers on cheap wages.

>>512892101
Hmm. It's almost like labour shouldn't be cheap. As if people who create value for an operation should be paid fairly irrespective of the country of origin

>>512893013
Sure, I use "Biden" to mean the general time when he was "in office" lol.

>>512891863
It's artificial over-supply right now you fucking idiot. If you shitskins are as valuable to a country as you are pathetically trying to argue, why isn't your country doing better? Why do you gotta come here to work for a fraction of the wage of the average American? Disgusting subhumans.

>>512893184
brown people under value their worth by going into white countries

>>512887899 (OP)
The criminals harden their ability to hide. The harmless run in fear.

>>512893184
>irrespective of the country of origin
You should be beaten to death. Self-serving evil fuck. Because the US is not an open border free for all, you fuckibg loser. Your kind is fucking up the system. God I hope you fucking die. Scum of the earth.

>>512892559
no youre not
its all smoke blown up your ass

>>512887899 (OP)
I liked having people paying into social security and not getting it

>>512893448
get out of america JEETS

>>512893184
Why? Those corporations pay the sane wages to white people. Hell, niggs get affirmative action too. Thing is, you are just low IQ subhumans. If you werent, you wouldnt create shitholes you desperately want to leave to live with the oh so hated white people.

>>512887899 (OP)
Not a liberal, but it's a bad thing because a huge majority of those illegals work and pay taxes. They work jobs no American wanted to work -- jobs that aren't likely to be filled. This is a bad thing because we're looking at shortages. Already reports are coming from farmers whose harvest withered out in the field because they couldn't get enough labor to do the harvesting. Combined with the fact that we can no longer import anything without paying a large proportion of those 50% tariffs... shortages, price rises, etc. Get ready to eat corn-fried corn for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

>>512893721
>huge majority of those illegals work and pay taxes
yea I doubt that

>>512893721
>jobs no American wanted to work
How come they did a few decades ago?

>>512893654
In his defense, many of the countries we now look at as being full of "subhumans" (your term; not mine) are shitty by circumstance rather than by race. India, in particular, was absolutely raped by the British for centuries. A lot of what we see today in the developing world is postcolonial fallout. Colonialism has been dead for less than a century. Its impacts are real, measurable, and have to do with rapacious colonial empires which extracted wealth, caused dramatic social unrest, and then disappeared... almost exclusively without repaying anything they took.

When the developing world rises up, which it will, we'll deserve its vengeance.

>>512888851
-1.6m in 6 months is very impressive. Trump can feasibly remove 8m by 2029. Then you need to beat the open border demrats again. If the US is successful in removing immigrants anf thriving, then all of us will follow!

>>512894063
Boo hoo, the british lifted them out of retardation and built the train lines and cities. Also, don't see how that's America's problem.

>>512894098
those are not the real numbers

>>512893829
You doubt it because you're a very specific combination of herdbrained, uneducated, and incurious. You deal primarily in vibes and the general mood of your ingroup. If your ingroup approves of something, you say based based based and move on. If your ingroup disapproves, without doing any research or even attempting to figure out whether you have the slightest clue what you're talking about...
>yea I doubt that
Your doubt is an artifact of a lazy mind, not a judgment on reality. I know this, you know this (on some level, at least) and everyone else knows it.

>>512894098
>then all of us will follow!
I hope so. Plus you're a fucking island ffs, it should be easy for you guys.
Sure, it's only 1.6 million but taking into account ICE just got the funding it needs (and more) and democrats have been consistently subverting deportations I'm happy with it.
Supposedly a lot of this is coming from self deportations too. That's amazing because it doesn't extend ICE resources and makes it effortless. If forced deportations continue to increase and self deportations stay steady it's very bullish.

>>512894164
Gross, I've got philistine all over my screen...

>>512894261
you're projecting again totally not a liberal fellow 4channer

>>512887899 (OP)
> tell me why this is actually a bad thing
This is going to crash the real state market. Rents and housing prices will go down which will hurt the banks and housing funds like Blackstone.

>>512892685
Now 10x each stat and America will truly be on the right path. It would be an example for the rest of us

>>512894443
My "ingroup" left 4chan fifteen years ago. I'm still stuck here with all you decidedly shit replacements.

>>512894558
...I said a bad thing
>>512894585
we're trying
>>512894603
ok commie

>>512894443
It's probably just the jeet from earlier in this thread that forgot his meme flag.

>>512888773
If you’re a pajeet in the West right now, you should planning on fleeing the country in the next month. You’ve already seen the insane anger from all sides the past months. Things are going to get violent as the anger increases. You’ll make convenient targets for unhinged people.

And there are no whites to protect you because you’re universally hated by everyone, including niggers.

You’ll be happier in your home country where you can actually oppress lower caste subhumans.

https://www.amren.com/features/2024/12/india-its-worse-than-you-think/

https://www.dailyo.in/variety/scams-nirav-modi-rotomac-fodder-scam-pnb-22537

>>512894663
lol, I don't think so because the indian was using leftist buzzwords while this one is actually being coherent at least.

>>512894261
You made a claim, that anon called the claim out as bullshit.
You jumping right to insults and shaming for not accepting your completely unfounded claims only proves your claims false.
Plus the claim of hispanics contributing taxes has already been disproven with source itt here >>512891928
Now fuck off and KYS

>>512894268
Our sea rescue charity (The RNLI) literally goes out to the to help the boats cross the channel. The people have been raising their voices against the state, but are getting suppressed using draconian laws. They will eventually fail as the anger becomes uncontrollable.

>>512894744
It's using copypasta from the troons collection.

>>512888773
>Why are rightoids like this
Because they have literally nothing else. Racialism is only attractive to people who have no other accomplishments they can integrate into their identities. We're talking about people who have been mediocre or failures their entire lives. Someone with a good sense of self-actualization, a self-schema independent of ephemera and rooted in genuine self-knowledge/examination, has no reason to pay any mind at all to racialism. It's a trap for people who need someone lower on the totem pole to feel alive. Like LBJ said:
>If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.
They're ultimately just useful rubes -- they're mad, but instead of chasing the source of their anger down to the root, they take the nearest pressure valve and route their steam into a cul-de-sac where their anger swirls around before dissipating; never actually threatening the structural forces behind their malaise.

It's pathetic, honestly. I'll have room for pity once they're back out of the public sphere.

>>512887899 (OP)
That's a start.

Obama deported waaaay more illegals
Also
If Trump deports anymore who will pick your tomatoes?

>>512894063
>muh colonizashun
Bullshit excuse. Bongs built everything modern in jeetistan. Eastern europe was leveled to the ground in ww2 and then got hit by communism. Yet we dont live in squalor. Africa in particular got several marshal plan's worth of aid, yet nothing to show for it. Picrel is the Bhutan-India border, India is richer and yet...

>>512888773
And if they do ever somehow stumble through ineptitude and get their mythical white ethnostate, they'll be like dogs who finally caught the car. What do they do? Everyone is white, who's left to look down on? What whipping boy do you blame for your continued failure and mediocrity? When everyone is white, you no longer have an excuse for being simple, normal, and unexceptional -- just what you've done and the values by which you've lived.

>>512895525
Lol liberalism is dead in America for a generation. A disasterous run from leftists has shown what garbage their ideas and policies are. It is you who are on the run and hunted. Don't worry, bullets are faster than you. If we don't catch you and eradicate you, they will.

>>512887899 (OP)
>believing Trump regime statistics

Don't you ever get tired of being lied to?

>>512887899 (OP)
Getting rid of illegals and H1-bs is GOOD for zoomers. Housing prices are too fucking high. I'm a millennial homeowner and I would gladly nuke my home equity if it meant toppling the boomers real estate pyramid scheme and letting zoomers get their foot in the door.

The boomers and their wealth printing machine need to be destroyed.

>>512896022
Obama reclassified "deportations" and not letting migroids in. He didn't do shit.

Boomers and kikes love mass immigration because it keeps their real estate scam afloat and keeps wages down.

Kick the boomer down the stairs.

>>512890541
>illegal
Who gives a fuck
H1B alone is 1.5mil temporary "legal".
Those who follow through get permanent residency or citizenship, those who don't stay anyway on expired visas

Also boomers are not going to leave their kids jack shit. All of their wealth is going to get sucked up by private equity owned nursing homes and life extension schemes. If you think wealth inequality is bad now wait until boomers give millions of dollars to blackrock and vanguard owned medical groups/nursing homes. It's best to cut them off now.

>>512889199
DESIGNATED

>>512896748
SHITTING

>>512895127
That's insane.

>>512896646
ok groyper

>>512889199
>>Hard mode: no irrational bigotry
This is our country, we get to decide the rules
And "irrational bigorty" is on the table you filthy walking piece of shit. Your behavior is what made us act this way.
I'd unironically save a mouse struggling in the water before I'd life a finger to rescue a dozen drowning pajeet children

>>512893721
>Not a liberal
>we NEED our slave labor!
yes you are. the modern liberal is a willing servant to corporations. this money hungry liberalism is still present in both parties.

>>512888505
At least. Plus their spawn.

>>512887899 (OP)
Because if we want to get rid of immigrants I say we retroactively make it back to 1890.

>>512888851
You’re a naive retard and likely a Jew

>>512888773
Are you fucking retarded? If you decrease the labor supply, then wages will have to go up as companies compete for workers.

>>512896107
You get to live in a safe white country. That's what you get. Plus you don't have to smell Indians with their stinky BO.

>>512900386
It's not my fault you're mad illegals are leaving the country

Boomers and their migrant pets.