Thread 512889275

“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?”
― Epicurus

>>512889275 (OP)
That wasn't said by Epicurus.

christians be like
zoroastrianism proves that brown people can be civilized and send millions to their without the crime of cannibalization

>>512889763
to their death*

>>512889275 (OP)
>Could my parents have stopped me from making a mess in my room? Then they are not omnipotent.
>Could my parents clean the mess, but they don't want to? Then they just hate me.
>Could my parents clean the mess, and they are willing to clean it themselves? Then why do I have to do anything?
>Could my parent not clean the mess, and are unwilling to clean it themselves? Then why call them parents?
>-The Peterson Paradox

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>>512889763
>>512889823
the plebs do not understand the quote describes the demiurge

>>512890950
Unironically this is the exact analogy I have used to counter the Epicurean Paradox, though I admit I didn't make the connection to JBP.

How about an iversion?
If there is no Evil, how should Virtue and Good be measured?
If god denies our ability to choose, are we any more than slaves or animals?
If god acts at our behest and robs us of agency, are our actions capable of virtue?
If god were to treat us as cattle, then why call him God?

>>512890950
I hoped this was ironic.
>>512891419
And then there is the moron who uses it unironically. Because billions of innoccents across the ages suffering the most terrible fates ranging from the most devastating tragedies through undescribable torture and the most terrible sicknesses to unrelenting, hopeless slavery, through no fault of their own, is totally on the same level as a mess in a room. Right. An entire universe created in such a way that it rewards ruthlessness, is indifferent to sadism, and punishes deeds that are supposedly moral, is on the level of a mess in a room.

>>512889275 (OP)
Saw that thing in my dreams twice, years before I found out about the demiurge

>>512889275 (OP)
Everyone is appointed death and afterward the judgement.

imagine worshipping a Jew

Christians be like:
If anything bad happens it's free will.
If anything good happens it's God's will.

The Demiurge hints at the answer. Evil is a feature, not a bug, of existence.

>>512892130
>God is infinitely merciful.
Has anyone ever said this? I hear about grace often, but mercy? Is there nothing divine that touches the face of mercy?

>>512893957
>Gamers be like:
>If anything bad happens, it's RNG
>If anything good happens it's skill

>>512889275 (OP)
>said 300BC in greece about not monotheism
hmmm really makes you think

Anyway, evil comes from decisions of beings with free will.

>>512889275 (OP)
And?

>>512890950
Ooo! New strawman dropped!

>>512890992
Gnosticism is the gayest Rick and Morty religion ever.

if you don't tell it what you believe it can't fuck with you.

>>512897871
>I don't understand parallel reasoning, therefore it's a strawman