Thread 512892619

History lesson;

Before Communism, by some estimates 1/3rd of all Chinese men living in port cities were addicted to opium. Mao solved this domestically with a simple two-part policy. First, opium dealers if convicted would be executed; secondly, anyone caught with opium would be assumed to be a dealer unless they informed on their dealer.

Mao also directed the Red Army to make cross-border incursions into the 'Golden Triangle' to break up smuggling gangs. This was necessary because remnants of the KMT-nationalists had become opium smuggling gangs. The KMT lost public support in part because of their permissive attitude towards opium; in fact the KMT taxed opium and relied on the revenue to fund their army.

China's opium problem was a result of being forced to import opium after losing the Opium Wars (1839-1842 and 1856-1860). This entire trade became monopolized by one family, The Sassoons, who were Jewish merchants that fled Baghdad after looting the treasury. The Scottish company Jardine & Matheson initially provided some competition, but they specialized in smuggling which was no longer necessary once China was forced to legalize opium.

>>512892619 (OP)
With how chinks act today, I would have thought they were still on opium

If there was no food then there was no opium.
Mao was histories greatest retard

>>512892775
They smoke weed a lot

>>512892619 (OP)
The Sassoons specialized in growing the opium, which they did on farms in India, having been granted a monopoly by Queen Victoria.

The Sassoons intermarried heavily with the Rothschilds and appear to have deposited much of their revenue into Rothschild banks. Pic rel is one of their opium warehouses where Indians are setting the balls of opium to dry. Many of the 'Old Money' families grew rich off of this opium trade, for example John FORBES Kerry or Franklin DELANO Roosevelt. The Skull and Bones Society was also endowed by the Russell Trust from an opium smuggling fortune. It is basically a fraternity for the children of these opium families.

>>512892619 (OP)
So he was a retarded tyrant?
We already knew this.
The opium addiction was not the result of opium trade. It was the result of shitty life conditions, much like rats becoming addicted to cocaine when they don't have a proper social environment rich in other goal oriented activities.
Commies, and the enemies of commerce in general, are ALWAYS the biggest and most evil RETARDS.

>>512893075
Franklin DELANO Roosevelt wanted to get involved in World War II so badly, especially against the Japanese, because the Empire of Japan was muscling the Jews-British-Americans out of the Chinese opium market. This was obviously intolerable to him.

The Imperial Japanese for their part were given orders known as the "Three Alls"; Kill All, Burn All, Loot All.

As part of the looting, when the Japanese conquered a territory, after stealing all of the moveable valuables, they would distribute and then sell tobacco cigarettes containing opium, in an effort to coax locals to resume their addiction but pay for Japanese opium in an effort to ferret out some of the hidden hard currency that remained.

Thus, the Chinese came to see opium and opium addiction as a deliberate foreign plot to destroy their country (because it was), and the Communist Party gained support by capitalizing on this sentiment.

>>512892907
Not quite comparable, but interesting nonetheless. What does the Party think about it?

>>512893552
>The opium addiction was not the result of opium trade
I don't think there were a lot of home-growers so Chinese people would by definition have to acquire it by trade. Opium addiction in China greatly reduced after the 1952 "Directive on Eradication of Drug Epidemic." But China definitely was no utopia in 1952, they just made people stop smoking opium by force and a massive propaganda campaign. Think Red Guards but against opium.

>>512894173
Dunno most party send chinese industrial plant weed like is pinneaple express here

No one thinks is a big deal pot laws are just an excuse to jail bolivians at the border

>>512892775
This invaluable, sophisticated take provided by American education

>>512892619 (OP)
Simple and based.

>>512894483
People acquiring opium is the result of the opium trade. Opium addiction isn't. That was the point of my post, so your "home-grower" point is moot.

>>512895437
Unlike other drugs, because opium mimics dopamine (the 'reward' drug) and has severe withdrawals, it can override the conscious mind and actually enslave users so that they are no longer able to act in their own self-interest and will act against their own morals and values.

It's also a trap because if a person (or society) has problems, then opium encourages the user to use opium instead of doing any work to solve those problems.

You could say that opium is an enemy of the working-class because it's impossible to do much working while addicted to opium. Addicts become a burden on others which lowers the standards of living for others who have to support them.

Look at these people for example; the women do all of the work and the men lie around in mud huts smoking opium all day; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYY9NYAPXJs&rco=1

>>512892619 (OP)
>solved this
Implying it was a problem that needed solving. Drug use is a problem to governments because they don't control it

>>512893552
Another midwit faggot who thinks he's going to turn the world on its head with his postmodern social engineering bullshit. Occam's razor: making the consequences dire, and ENFORCING THE LAW yield positive results. Go pass out needles to junkies you hippie loser

>>512896356
It was literally so big a problem that China's army became ineffective because so many soldiers became addicts. This made China ripe for invasion, civil war or warlordism. Which are pretty big problems.

>>512896409
I am not for social engineering, retard. I am literally arguing against social engineering in this fucking thread, you fucking idiot. I am not a postmodern motherfucker either. You are so fucking lost.
>>512896234
Again, that would not have been an issue if China was not a shithole already. Opium has been used for literal millennia (from ancient Greece and Rome to India) without the issues you mention. Also, opium is not unique in the way you point out and the rat experiment I referenced has also been done with morphine and not just cocaine. You are just using it as an excuse for totalitarian intervention on what people do with their own lives and bodies. You are probably some form of socialist as well (Marxist or not).

>>512897576
Sounds like they were already a shitty civilization were people were desperate to plunge into escapism.
>>512896356
Correct.

>>512897585
>Opium has been used for literal millennia (from ancient Greece

that's why they were using on the island of the "lotus" eaters that Odysseus visited.

The Ancient Greeks thought it was so important to warn people about it that they dedicated an entire chapter of their national myth to doing so

>>512897576
Again that's only a problem for government. We're there famines because of this widespread addiction? No, it was a problem because the State couldn't control it and therefore could not control the people

>>512898035
>The Ancient Greeks thought it was so important to warn people about it that they dedicated an entire chapter of their national myth to doing so
Yeah, I am not against lessons about self-restraint and warnings about the risks of drug use. I am against totalitarian control, down to what people consume and put in their own bodies. If you do not uphold bodily autonomy, you have no solid principle to stand against terrible shit such as mRNA vaccine mandates and even slavery.

>>512898864
totalitarianism is unfortunately the lesser evil in the case of opioids, because the consequences of inaction are similar to the consequences of losing a war, but perpetually.

>>512892619 (OP)
I read "Mao banned Optimism" and was about to believe it

>>512901076
It really isn't. It is the outcome desired by those that have engineered the current dismal situation through quantitative easing, insane regulation, anarchotyranny, all encompassing demoralizing and marxoid/freak enabling propaganda and a bunch of other shit.
You are just the reaction directly playing into their hands.

>>512894644
>brick weed from china
Grim. Probably tastes like batteries.

>>512901514
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>>512902130
shut the fuck up, commie

>>512892619 (OP)
Actually interesting, good thread OP.