Thread 512903569

What will work?

>>512903569 (OP)
>Restricting womens rights
>Iran
lmao Why dont we look at the country that actually did that afghanistanIt made women talking too loudly in public illegal Whats their birth rate right now?
Secondly the groups in america have one thing in common Religion thats it the amish the mormons the catholics the orthodox jews and muslims dont have birth rate problems.

Taxing unmarried women but not taxing men

Also free childcare

>>512903569 (OP)
>Totenberg
What indeed

>>512903788
>free childcare
Didnt canada do that? They had a study thinking it would help be every child put in childcare before the age of 5 showed worse performance in everything. They were less likely to finish school or work more likely to do drugs crime or self harm.

>>512903569 (OP)
Raw dog fuckin!

>>512903569 (OP)

The question you should be asking is why is a temporary decline in birth rate intolerable to the elite. But you’re far too financially illiterate to think of posing that question. Goyim make me sick.

>>512903569 (OP)
>Iran
They still allow women in schools. That is the dividing line. That and minimizing their opportunity to form sewing circles. The internet makes the latter impossible and indeed makes the sewing circles worse.

>>512903569 (OP)
Raepy teimz

>>512903569 (OP)
The world is overpopulated. Take the win.

I don't understand why anyone cares about this. Breeding like rats is subhuman behavior, why should the west emulate it?

>>512903569 (OP)
>1 post by the spamming tranny
>retarded twatter post full of lies
ib4 le women bad save the jews

>>512903889
Yea it turns out when the state runs a daycare, with unelected bureaucrats and public tax money, they are god awful at it

>>512903937
>They still allow women in schools.
I remember the UN? said female education is the cure to overpopulation back in like 2010

>>512903569 (OP)
You could make it illegal to not have kids past 30. You could make loans interest free for families with children. You could subsidize the salary of men working for the entire household to compete with dinks.

Incredible the Jew threw up his hands at this conundrum, they’re usually so eager to help continue the white race.

>>512903569 (OP)
Deactivating electricity and reverting back to a more primitive lifestyle is guaranteed to work.

>>512903569 (OP)
Dismantling of materialism.

>>512903966
Checked. It's actually crazy how bad overpopulation is


>zomg muh birth rates!!
>we are running out of slaves--i mean workers!!!

>>512903569 (OP)
Nothing, and nothing SHOULD work, holy fuck.
Birthrates are going down because our species is just entering a comfortable equilibrium with our environment. That's a good thing for literally fucking EVERY animal population.
The idea that birthrates need to go up, perpetually, for fucking forever, is both stupid and psychotic.
It's fine for the human population to just stabilize eventually. There's no reason to be so upset about that except for raw greed.
The only reason rich people are panicking about it so much is because they've built all of their economic ideas and plans on this childish notion of infinite, exponential growth. Now that those ideas are turning out to be stupid, they're throwing a massive bitchfit and trying to artificially keep the party going by importing niggers.

>>512903569 (OP)
I would say the main problem is amoungst others lol, that people start working really late. Lets say in the 50-80s people were independent when they were 18-19. Now they all need degrees n shit. Also women are not dependent on the defilers anymore.So they get kids in their mid 30s and that is at most 1-2 children.

>>512903747
>Afghanistan
US was in there from 2001 to 2021

>>512903966
Yep if africa breeds like baboons that is a good thing.

>>512903569 (OP)
Pale skinny insecure weeaboo goth gf with daddy issues.

>>512903569 (OP)
Natural selection
Those that want to will

Tax unmarried people and childless people. Paired with Afghanistan levels of women's rights abuses and you will have births in no time.
But we are on the precipice of a post oil world and we really need to humanely decrease the population before starvation does it for us.

>>512904335
>Tax unmarried people and childless people
How did that work out for the Roman Empire?

>>512903569 (OP)
killing the elites

>>512903569 (OP)
decriminalization of rape (India)

>>512903569 (OP)
Easy. Arranged marriages. And the women have to put out when the men ask. Also outlaw birth control and ALL women must be married off by 18. Simple as.

>>512904437
that's antisemitism

>>512904335
>Tax unmarried people and childless people.
Tax unmarried women* and childless women.*

Men need time to build up wealth before they can support a family. Taking more of men's money away is counterintuitive.

>>512903569 (OP)
Whats wrong with the birth rates ?
I didn't hear anyone talking about it 2 years ago.

>>512903569 (OP)
Survival of the fittest.

>>512903569 (OP)
>What will work?

killing this anon and all of his genetic kin >>512903966
in order to eliminate interest slavery worldwide.
This would also eliminate the funneling of resources from White nations to apefrica and the importation of brownoids into White countries which destroys suitable social conditions for raising families.

>>512904512
Didnt they find women who win lotteries become less likely to have kids but men who win become more likely?

Who would have thought that when you stop forcing people to have babies, they decide they don't want babies? Why the fuck should people be forced to have babies? Have more of your own if you care so much, you'll leave even that much more of a legacy! Wowowow what a blessing

>>512903747
>>512903757

>arranged marraige
>legalized rape of your wife
>contraceptives made illegal
There i fixed it for everyone

>>512903569 (OP)
>What will work?

An anti-sociopath gene pathogen pandemic, completely impartial as to shallow demographics

>>512903569 (OP)
Maybe there are just too many fucking people on the planet and its naturally leveling off.
>>512903934
This, number must go up forever

>>512904572
I wonder what hitler did?

>>512904575
>Didnt they find women who win lotteries become less likely to have kids but men who win become more likely?
Of course. Men work and make money in order to attract women and support their future children. Women work and make money to avoid having to marry and have kids with non-Chad men.

Nothing will work.

Humans evolved without effective contraception, and now that we have it you can have sex without making children.

Eventually the genes for pursuing sex without making children will disappear.

The only people having kids will be those who want them. I think this is a good thing, and everything will even out.

People who only have kids because they want to fuck suck...would you want to be their kid? Of course not.

FEWER BUT BETTER HUMANS

>>512904707
i dunno its a mystery. probably just a fluke

>>512903569 (OP)
What law of nature says we always need to have more people? We need to have enough (white) people to keep the human race going. Too many useless browns are around.

Depopulate the Earth.

>>512903569 (OP)
Ban birth control. Ban abortion that isn't a medical emergency. Problem solved.

>>512904707
I wonder if any countries or communities have growing birth rates and growing economies something (((experts))) said cant be done?

>>512903569 (OP)
why do you need another gorillion people? the earth can barely cope as it is
this is just nature healing
oh no, less people will have to share the same amount of resources so everyone will be richer on average, the environment will heal, pollution will go down, oceans will recover, housing will go back to not living in the pod, people will get paid more
HOW TERRIBLE

>>512903569 (OP)
Removal of contraceptives.

>>512904829
>ban sluts
Wei Wu sensei I kneel

>birth rates decline despite any worldly incentive.

Throw a million solutions at the wall and none lf them stick. It is human nature to abandon God. You want to fix the birthrates? Go to church, bring others to faith in Christ. God will make you fruitful and multiply.

>>512903569 (OP)
Forget about the rest, OP. I'm the target focus on me. :D

You know what they say: if you wanna attract bees better use honey instead of shit.

>>512903569 (OP)
Birth rates are low because people's lives are not valued. We don't need more workers.

>>512904917
religion has nothing to do with it,

it's genetics and contraception - people who only want sex are getting that, and people who want sex and kids are getting that,
the former's genes will disappear

religion is retarded

Putting women in chains is the only thing that has ever worked
Why do we have to keep having the same conversation?

>>512904917
>You want to fix the birthrates? Go to church, bring others to faith in Christ. God will make you fruitful and multiply.
That's just a long winded way of saying "be social and have sex" and it's an exhortation and wishful thinking, not concrete problem solving

>>512904781
Yeah like all those 40 year old roasties who pop out a water head and groom him to be a girl. Better!

deportations.

Has stopping immigration been tried?

>>512903569 (OP)
>Hungary
Initially the incentives worked a little and then they vaxxed all wamen.
Real antifeminism and not relying on (((doctors))) would work.

>>512905007
If I had a woman chained in my house I still wouldn't want to get her pregnant. In fact I would probably rather unchain her and kick her out.

>>512903966
>>512904187
Anti-Natalists get the rope

>>512904989
>religion has nothing to do with it,

>>512903569 (OP)
Import niggers

>>512905111
Forgot this faggot >>512904213

>>512903569 (OP)
Remove jew. Remove shitskin. Wait for the generational brainwashing to naturally die out.

>>512904575
Not only that, but most of the childless men in this country WANT kids, but they are denied the chance. Even if you have money and you're 5/10. I settled for a fat girl and within 2 years she was stealing my money and cheating on me. Yeah, laugh. I'm numb to it.

How India and Pakistan keep growing?

>>512905028
if a female has 1 child at 40, the probability of them having descendants in 100 years is approximately 0%.

A recent scientific study showed that to guarantee descendants at the 4th generation you should aim for 5 kids.

So you agree with my point, thanks.

>>512905143
IMPORT THE THIRD WORLD
BECOME THE THIRD WORLD

WHAT WAS THE POINT

>>512905116
birth rates plummeted the most at the end of the 19th century during industrialization when the developed world was basically 100% christian. you're a fucking retard

>>512903569 (OP)
Witch burning and trail by water.
>t. Dream job is to be the guy who fills up burlap sacks with rocks in preparation for witch trials

>>512903569 (OP)
Get women out of the workplace, birthrates = fixed.

>>512903569 (OP)
maybe appect the fact that the line really doesn't need to go up and the populaton can just go down
>b-but who will t-take care of boomer w-when they le retire
pillow

>>512903966
>>512904187
The problem is that overpopulation is largely just coming from three primary sources- India, China, and Africa, and those three... really aren't declining in population. It's all the places that don't need a decline which are (Japan, Korea, all white countries).

>>512903569 (OP)
Putting women back in the kitchen.

>>512905174
It's not anti-natalism. I'm not against the idea of having kids, it's just clear that as a whole there's no reason to force people to have kids.
You've obviously never had sex, does that make you an anti-natalist? There's a difference between not wanting to force people to have kids, and wanting to force people NOT to have kids.

>>512904572
Incredibly minor blip. Nazis were turbo simps

A massive culling of the worthless and profane would be a good start.

>>512904335
>we're running out of oil
>we can't produce enough food
found the WEF shrill. you forgot climate change cocksucker

>>512904989
>eligion has nothing to do with it,
The only groups of people forming families and having kids today in the modern world are religious there are no exceptions at all Agnostics are not having enough kids. Atheist lmao. People only have kids in communities with shared cultures two things religion does well and the modern world almost seems to destroy. Religious groups have families in wars, plagues famines, economic dips. Single people get fucked by themselves and charged stupid rent prices then feed pure garbage from media or what influences them.
Religion is the default working model nothing else works in mass there is no other system, You cannot have a society without families and it seems the only groups that forms families in good and bad times is the religious

>>512903569 (OP)
You have to apply the modern workaholic internet guru advice of doing nothing in life except working because anything that gives you more dopamine than work will distract you. Do this to women but with having and raising kids. They should be doing nothing outside of this.

>>512903569 (OP)
feminist burning

GIBING MEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A STABKE LIFE FOR UIMSELF SND HISBWIFE AND CHILDRENM ITD THE ONLY WAY. HOW CAN WE HAVE 4 CHILDREN IF THE WIFE HAS TO WORK TOO? YOU MAKE IT SO MEN CAN CLEARLY SEE THEIR WORK WILL MEAN MORE THAN BEING ABLE TO AFFORD A GUNKOPOP AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THATS IT.

PRODUCTIVE MEN WILL MAKE WOMEN HAPPIER BY DEFAULT.

DESTROY ANY BARRIERS TO MENS ABILITY TO EARN, PRODUCE. CREATE AND BE A PART OF A TRUSTFUL SOCIETY. ITS ALL WE WANT. IF MEN ARE RE ENPOWERED WOMEN WILL GAIN STRENGTH AND HAPPIENESS THROUGH THEIR MEN AND THEIR VHILDREN AND HOUSE. END OF.

>>512905438
see
>>512905243

>>512905375
>doesn't know calculus
ok nigger.

They completely reversed the downward birthrate trend in under 5 years.

It's simple; we import more Indians.

The economy fucking sucks and the people in reproductive age would rather spend their money in something else.

>>512905413
due to abandonment of parents' religion, actually almost every major religious group has lower fertility than is needed to prevent numbers from dropping - in other words, so many people leave catholicism, islam, mormonism, etc. that their numbers are dropping preciptiously, so wrong again. to reiterate ....if mormon fertility is 3, but out of 3 mormon kids, only 1.5 remain mormon, that means you are still decreasing the number of mormons in society and they are failing to reproduce themselves


ultimately the will to reproduce is everything

mandatory rape. grab a woman you think you could physically overpower and have fun.

>>512905616
So these groups are shrinking? Thats what you are trying to tell me?

>>512905304
china is done too

>>512905221
Number go up

>>512903569 (OP)
getting to artificial wombs and sex bots for good measure. the female is the technocrat's greatest weapon against the human species because they can stop alot of resistance movements, procreation, and responsible economic activity with them. men are less likely to go to dissident politics if it will ruin their chances of getting laid, the oligarchs use holes to get you under their thumb with marridge contracts which further detracts from dissidents and holes are terrible with finances going into untold piles of debt for useless degrees and corporate sponsored social acceptance. for this to all go away, there has be replacements so women are so disenfranchised that they are looked at and treated worst than manlets

>>512903569 (OP)
>literally told every day by thousands of people what the problem is
>WHAT CAN THE PROBLEM BE! WE TRIED ALL THESE OTHER THINGS!

>>512905820
>artificial wombs
>sex bots

>>512903569 (OP)
artificial wombs. its the only way.

>Degrees are getting worthless
>Most people can barely pay rent
>Religion and spirituality are mostly dead.
>High chance of WW3 in the next decades
>Climate change
> Everyone is getting brainrot from social media
Idk, sounds like having Kids right now is a shit idea.

>>512903569 (OP)
Obviously you combine all the strategies and make divorce illegal.

>>512905820
If a government, corporation or gang could make artificial wombs and clone the best worker, researcher and solider forever. Why wouldn't they just monopolize that then kill off the native population when they reached a good population?

>>512904070
> You could make it illegal to not have kids past 30
I blew off my dick in a tragic gooning accident in my teens.

>>512905741
yes, sorry i can't find my source (it was some nerdy substack article) but basically every major religion is failing to reproduce adequately and numbers are dropping except for some smaller more conservative christian sects which are benefiting from ultra-conservatives from the general population joining them (obv. this well will dry up)

>>512903569 (OP)
Safety would work who feels safe to have a child almost no one how do you feel more safe build more houses not housing houses

>>512906217
china has a lot of empty houses,

the reality is with conception that works, people can have sex (they want) and not kids (they dont want kids)

people not wanting kids IS GOOD FOR THE FUTURE, because they shitty people who dont want kids, who get abortions, who are only out for sex, and also incels, will all be removed from the human genetic population,

In 100 years people will probably be nicer, more family oriented, etc.

>>512906189
>yes, sorry i can't find my source
Okay bro i believe you the Amish Mormons Catholics and other religious groups are shrinking in number.

>>512906093
good luck planning all that and getting the infrastructure for it. besides the world population is already enslaved atm anyway so why bother

The average number of children per woman in Iran has plummeted:

1980s: Approx. 6.5 births

2000s: Dropped below replacement level (~2.0)

2021: Around 1.7

2023–24: Stays at 1.6, historically low and well below the required ~2.1 to sustain population.

>Since 1980, female university enrollment surged, and by the 2000s women made up over half of students. Legal reforms, though limited, gradually improved divorce rights, child custody laws, and access to certain jobs. Women gained a greater presence in medicine, academia, and the arts, and the right to run for parliament remained intact. In recent decades, increased internet access and global connectivity have expanded women’s voices in public debate, creating a slow but visible broadening of opportunities and influence despite ongoing state-imposed restrictions.

So yeah, women's rights have been flourishing as the birthrate in Iran has been plummeting. Not the other way around. Retard in OP's image is just a disingenuous kike.

>>512904070
None of those would work. You'd have to do things like restrict women from entering uni by putting a hard cap, maybe 10% of women allowed, until they turn 40, and restrict them from working more than 30 hours a week. Just that alone would bring about positive birthrates.

>>512903966
Yeah but a bunch of morons are still having a ton of kids.

With the rate at which technology is advancing these days, I would expect artificial wombs creating armies of jewish super soldiers in the heart of Israel by the end of the century.

>>512903569 (OP)
Removal of female political and voting rights. No I'm not kidding.

>>512903569 (OP)
HOUSING HOUSING HOUSING HOUSING, AFFORDABLE CHEAP HOUSING

>>512906360
>image is just a disingenuous kike.
Its amazing how well they swarm soultions and then talk in circles before assuring they are the correct experts.

>>512903569 (OP)
Don't worry, indians mexicans and niggers are breeding like fucking wildfire

>>512903569 (OP)
>financial incentives
obviously not incentivizing enough.
unless you have women literally holding up signs on the side of the road saying "looking for man to impregnate me, willing to pay", then your financial incentives are insufficient.
>restricting women's rights
try removing them completely, and trading them like the property they are.

>>512903747
fpbp

Ending feminism is the answer and using Iran as an example of it is utterly retarded

>>512903569 (OP)
>Not citing Africa

Why not?

>>512906189
>(obv. this well will dry up)

Why? They already have their own genetic selection. 20% stop being Amish, 80% stay. In-group becomes more conservative. Outgroup becomes less conservative, but still more conservative than the general public, as they also have more kids than normal.

>>512906454
with enough space for children of course, not 10sq meter studios. Litterally the most basic need is not fullfilled (shelter), why would anyone procreate?
Of course, it will never happen because the economic systems relies on housing prices going only up

>>512906189
What if....
What if the planet Earth didn't need 8 billion people swarming over it?
What if having 8 billion was stressing the environment, creating unmanageable amounts of waste? What if we let the population naturally shrink before every country has it's own Delhi or Bangladesh?

>>512905304
It's because of jews. I would have all the low iq brown men neutered and I would have all the brown women forcibly inseminated with white cum. Then Id indoctrinate all the white women that having babies is what gives you attention etc using the media by taking the media etc away from the jews

>>512906628
>it will never happen because the economic systems relies on housing prices going only up
American real estate market is 60% fake, just ask the Japanese. (the Chinese real estate market is 90% fake).
Crypto doesn't need inherent value to keep going up, why should speculative real estate?

>>512903569 (OP)
Well if we can draft men to die we can certainly draft women to get pregnant.

>>512906656
im in favor of human population shrinking....obviously if we grow to such an extent we risk destroying our habitat, but ultimately any one person has very little control as each of us is basically an ant in an ant colony of billions, so what will happen is this shit is going to play out the way it is going to play out...i mean look at elon musk and every capitalist company and every world leader freaking out over declining fertility...and they cant do shit. so it's unlikely any single action can "turn the boat" when the species is 8 billions units (excluding something crazy like ultimate thermonuclear war and famine which would possibly kill billions but even then humanity would be fine)

>>512906543
Mexico is in decline too, just not as bad as Europe

>>512906745
Quick, name 3 problems not caused by Jews.

>>512906854
Well the government wants high birthrates for more taxes, but I think it would be better if we just went around the world destroying the tardfarms. We'll end up with far more space, the world will be safer, the world will be smarter.

We need to wipe them out.

>>512906854
>obviously if we grow to such an extent we risk destroying our habitat
What if that number was 3 Billion tho?

>>512903569 (OP)
CUM CANNONS

I'd rather spill my load inside an ukrainian twink

>>512905111
Enjoy your pod

why don't scientists study how africans and jeets do it. what a mystery, procreation is.

>>512906989
It's not about the number IMO, it's about the quality. Most of the world is low quality, just get rid of them.

>>512906984
If governments made sensible decisions and our economic systems weren't set up to make wealthy shareholders into billionaires, we wouldn't need taxation to be a pyramid scheme.

>>512903569 (OP)
>doing nothing didn't work

>>512906999
SIGN ME UP

>>512903569 (OP)
collapse will work

>>512906903
This is a kike

>>512907052
You've proven to be a terrible judge of character in the past though.

>>512905347
> You've obviously never had sex, does that make you an anti-natalist?
Ah, let’s see your tits babe

>>512903788
>mold my kid in your image
Fuck off kike

>>512907294
Sorry, lapsed Baptist from southern Illinois.

>>512903569 (OP)
create organizations that raise children so you can just knock up some ladies and then the gov't raises them. then there's no financial/time burden angle to it

>>512907477
This guy is aspires to be a negro.
Laugh at him.

>>512907317
No shit, that's why the tardfarms exist in the first place. We'd be undoing our mistakes. These people have no right to exist, we created them. We have the right to unmake them too.

>>512903569 (OP)
Complete and utter poverty. People breed more when their dirt poor, stupid as fuck and don't have freedom. If you want birthrates to rocket again then prepare yourself for the life of being cattle to those who rule over you.

>>512907477
Learn to read nigger, we dont need kids we need families to make stable non nigger non criminal people

>>512903569 (OP)
Living in the moment completely will fix birth rates. Black people live completely in the moment and they have lots of kids

>>512903569 (OP)
Beheading all unmarried women over the age of 25.

The best solution is to educate young men into becoming marriage material once again. Right now they aren't, that's why women are not interested in marriage. The only men women are interested in are marriage material men and those men are too few in number to make a difference. It all starts with proper education of men. Women will follow.

webm related

I like how they make it sound like we are going exctinct when this is just a problem for capitalism.

>>512907477
>create organizations that raise children so you can just knock up some ladies and then the gov't raises them. then there's no financial/time burden angle to it
the government would groom them to become trannies, potentially sterilizing the kid with hormones or the snip.

>>512903569 (OP)
Why do we need more people? Robots are here

>>512907764
We don't live in a world that encourages people to be stable non-niggers tho. We live in a ruthless, dog-eat-dog world where everyone is obligated to kick all the other crabs back down into the bucket and we glorify swindling fraudsters.

>>512903569 (OP)
I already have one, and finances are literally the number one reason we won’t be having a second one. My wife doesn’t get maternity leave so I’d have to have a few thousand to cover costs for her to stay home, on top of the 5000$ deductible for the hospital stay. So I’m looking at 10k easily that I need in cash to have child number two. Not to mention all the other shit after that but that stuff is easier to since we already have a lot of stuff from the first one.

>>512903569 (OP)
Reduce the age of consent by 33% for married individuals, and increase it by 33% for unmarried individuals.

>>512905111
you don't need to be an anti-natalist to see that the human population right now is out of control. humanity existed just fine with under a billion population for hundreds of thousands of years. this mega population is an aberration. it's fine if it goes down a bit. we're not calling for human extinction, just something a bit more balanced.

>>512907804
Pathetic b8
0/10

>>512908063
Thanks for the input Achmed.

>>512903569 (OP)
One paycheck households. Women will gladly become a housewife if it means never working a 9 to 5 again.
If people are educated they will not breed if they think their kids will have a shitty life.
How can you attract a woman and raise a family if you have no money to make a life with?
Nobody pays them enough to do this. You'll never "Chad" your way into having a family.
Get over it.

>>512908096
Rope

>>512908212
Literal retard. It’s just about female freedom. That’s it. Nothing else. Income doesn’t matter unless you’re at Malthusian starvation poverty levels

>>512903569 (OP)
torture for dry cunts also kill kikes

>>512908212
This kind of talk is hurtful to our billionaires. We are fast approaching 1,000 of them in America, but we'll never make it if people start making a living wage across the country.

>>512903569 (OP)
doubt the financial incentives were even worth it. this is like california farmers saying that raising the pay for workers didn't work towards hiring actual americans. all they did is raise it to 16 an hour. they all do this. put up a listing and ignore whites applying, say none took the job and then hire your own jeets.
wan't birth rates to go up? a single person must make enough to support their entire household.

>>512908312
Women think kids are great. 99% of them can't resist picking one up and giving it a once over. They are evolutionarily wired to be happy with them. We just have a brutal system that tacks on great burden of suffering and unhappiness and stress with having one.
Financially secure people poop out kids on the regular.

>>512906903
Surplus economic value
Bear population in SE Michigan
Jackie Chan

>>512908158
yw roastie

>>512908383
Farmers everywhere are stingier than a Scotsman, get more gubbmint support than Laquisha's whole brood, and vote more conservative than George F. Will.
Fuck those guys.

>>512903569 (OP)

>Restricting womens rights didn't work

He is obviously a retard or a kike.

Women in Iran have more rights than Men nowdays.

>>512908312
Oh yeah that's why all those restrictions we put on women caused the baby boom despite them getting more employment and freedoms than ever.
The genie is out of the bottle, we're never gonna regress to your harem fetish being normalized without anything short of an apocalypse. Even if it did, what money would you support your hijabi wives with? People hardly get paid enough to support THEMSELVES

>>512903569 (OP)
A spiritual revolution, nothing else.

>>512903569 (OP)
Affordable housing. I’m not having a kid unless I own a house with a lawn. Simple as.

>>512908929
>Zoning laws
>Deed restrictions
I disagree with you as seen from my other posts. But its fucking retarded you cant just build a house. Fuck they cant even build more apartments to make rent cheaper

>>512908611
>Jackie Chan
what he do??

>>512908929
Correct. All the countries where the birthrate is dropping (yes that includes china, US and europe) have unaffordable housing. South america and africa have affordable housing. Do the math, no one wants to raise a family in a tiny cuck box. Why is everyone acting like this is so fucking complicated

>>512908996
Remove zoning laws and everything goes to shit.
The problem is corporate buying up properties to rent them, and speculative real estate investment driving up prices. Not particularly a lack of properties (except in the densest cities).

>>512908312
Afghanistan had the birth rate collapse after the taliban took over relative to what it was beforehand. This is bullshit seen with less gynocentric societies still having birth rate issues. Short of fetishistic literal imprisoned breeder camps which have never and will never happen in human history that's not going to fix it. Rather >>512908505 . Your goal is less increase fertility and more you hate women (not entirely your fault given how shitty modern wome nare) and want slave-mommies you can have sex with.

You're just a right wing version of the left wing new soviet man thinking you can override nature and natural impulses. You can't. A woman who doesn't feel like they are in a secure and supportive environment will be less inclined to have a kid. Secure and supportive also includes a culture that promotes it sincerely - artificial decrees from on high by out of touch bureaucrats is not going to convince anyone sincerely any more than the same telling us trans women are women did or telling us the economy is great when we all know it's shit.

More+better jobs for men = more men with income to manage a single house = more men who are desirable for women = more women who are interested in marrying and having kids

>>512908996
I'd need to track down the specific historical cases, but I'm reminded vaguely of periods where special interest factionalism suffocated a state/empire and how it resembles the same here. For us it's NIMBY and "Fuck you I got mine", for Romans it'd have been those with latifundas, for Medieval periods it might be guilds that are inefficient and more expensive than imported goods but the few (With connections) suffer or the many (with no connections) suffer and the calculus is obvious.

Sharia

>>512904989
>religion has nothing to do with it
Meanwhile, the people with the highest birthrates in the USA are the Amish, who have on average around 7 kids per family and in Israel, the Haredi averages about 6.1 kids per family.

>>512904829
>she world number one hoe
even in broken english. wew lad!

>>512909211
>The problem is corporate buying up properties to rent them,
The problem is fake money the head of blackstone or blackrock lost all his money in 2008 then got a billion dollar grant from the government
>Not particularly a lack of properties
Unless you have unlimited immigrants more rooms = less rent. You cant eat infinite losses without money printing.
>No zoning laws goes to shit
Does it whats the most relaxed zoning laws and their house prices? Dont get me wrong i dont want someone throwing up a section 8 super skyscraper two streets from my house, but when the only thing being built is commercial and upper class housing there is a fucking problem

>>512909340
The Amish are famous for cranking out sons who have no future, no prospects of property or good marriage, and basically get abandoned to outside society.
The elders give zero fucks because they have theirs.

>>512905200
>checked
say bro. bitches be witches sometimes. my gal isn't fat but she got a bout of the 'tism.

Engineered clones. They already have multiple Bidens. Why not put that tech to use?

>>512903569 (OP)
Iraq made cunny legal again; it will likely boost their numbers.

>>512903889
no canada did not do that, child care was prohibitively expensive until premier smith capped it at 15$ a day (to much lefty Reeeeee ing despite them promising, and failing, to do the same)

most are at about 300-900$ per kid per month now, not terrible really. But not "free" thank goodness as the taxpayers already subsidize everything far more then they should.

>>512910215
Sorry not canada it was quebec Quebec’s program had those results. and they aimed for like $5 dollar a day childcare years later most children from that program ended up with horrible life results compared to control groups. it happened in the 90's iirc

>>512903569 (OP)
Erik Torenberg is an absolute parasite. Block him and move on.

>>512906450
>Removal of female political and voting rights. No I'm not kidding.
Anyone actually interested in really solving the issue knows this.

>>512903569 (OP)
de-jew your life, de-jew society. Example: The Amish. They have the highest population growth on Earth, they double every twenty years. From that birth rate is going to be fixed over time as all but the Amish go extinct ending in a world completely populated by the Amish.

>>512908724
>Women in Iran have more rights than Men nowdays.
Correct. Just some disingenuous kike or shabbos goy. >>512906360

>>512911725
>de-jew your life, de-jew society.
Yes but that's hard to do unless you can convince your women they're going to suffer for eternity if they don't go along with it. Leaving them a choice is foolhardy.

>>512903569 (OP)
Restricting women's rights DOES work, it's just not allowed to admit it. Restrict their admission to universities unless they gave birth to at least two children. Men used to be obligated to do military service before they could study (I did). Ban contraceptives for women under 30. Ban abortion and make it punishable for both the pregnant woman and the person performing the abortion. Increase income tax benefits for parents of children to prevent propagation of only the lower class. Promote private schools and improve the availability and quality of public schools; in the recent decades leftist policies had them deteriorate. Deport all shitskins to improve general quality of life and public security so parents don't have to fear for their children and start to believe in a good future for them. They know exactly how to make us procreate, they don't want to.

>>512911850
I don't think we have to threaten them with hell just threaten them with being alone permanently. That's hell to them anyway.

>>512903569 (OP)
Radically reform the economic system to allow for the return to one income household as societal standard, with couples able to buy a small but serviceable 2-3 bedroom house straight out of college. Tax billionaires out the ass to pay to reduce taxes/govt fees for people making under 100k to absolute zero, or something. Something big and bold. Giving an extra $1k increase on the earned income child tax default credit swaps on your annual taxes helps people who can already afford to have kids, a little bit, but does absolute fucking dick to reform the society into one where people who want to fall in love and form pair bonds early can do so, because as much as they may want to, it's not like they can afford to become a nuclear family until they are in their (late) thirties. Might as well stay casual and slut/manwhore around in your twenties since you can't afford that married family life until you've spent 10+ years grinding your career after college.

Unironically eat the rich.

>>512911850
Again I point to the Amish, their women are convinced that results in them having the highest birth rate on Earth.

>>512904677
>too many fucking people
Go home Gates, you're drunk

>>512903569 (OP)
Simply change laws and dont import immigrants so when older people die housing frees up. Also get rid of antiquated and predatory laws to take some of the unncessary danger out of getting married. Most specifically for men at this point. Same goes for how child rearing is handled. Lots of fathers want to participate and they are hardly considered. Especially some of those fruity mediators and lawyers. State policies are sometimes fair for basic custody but paying shit tons of alimony in many cases is a cash grab for lawyers as much as women.

>>512904829
I like her funny pidgin.

>>512911990
I'm with you on all of it except public schools. The Brits did it better prior to 1910, where they had scholarships to private schools for smart kids. The government doesn't need to get involved in education.

>>512911990
>They know exactly how to make us procreate, they don't want to.
They want to make us procreate, but they can't without admitted the entire basis of their economic wealth is faulty, and has to go. Kikes thought they could double the work force by having women all work too and drive down wages, while weakening families/increasing degeneracy for everyone at no cost. Well this is the cost. By admitting that, they have to give up everything that's benefitted them to exploit us for many decades now.

So we'll just keep getting third world scabs, while they pretend it's our fault of "just not having babies".

>>512912201
Maybe their control of women can be isolated and extracted so you don't have to grow a grotesque pube beard, dress ridiculously, and live like you're in the stone age. Study them to figure it out. One of their precepts is that everything they have in their life has to promote/not detract from communal interaction.

>>512903569 (OP)
The solution is social. People have to want kids. We spent a good 30-40 years telling people having kids is selfish and horrible.

daycare literally costs more than owning a house

>>512903569 (OP)
Restricting women's rights would absolutely work

>>512905111
So no counter argument?

>>512904235
WOKE won worldwide

His entire post is incredibly simplistic.

>>512904219
All those years of xeno-estrogens in the air, the water the food are finally taking their toll. We are surrounded by plastics constantly giving off that shit, and ingesting it.

>>512903569 (OP)
Arranged marriages making a return (woman's opinion in it shouldn't matter).
Remove Title IX and shit from college campuses.
Tax on unmarried women.

>>512903569 (OP)
How about they stop fucking with everyone's lives and let people live free? How do communists ever win any wars when their supporters are fucking retarded, weird, fragile, and annoying?

>>512903569 (OP)
Turns out the "sexual revolution" was a phenomenon of fatal degeneracy. How do we get the genie back in the bottle? With some totalitarian ideology or with religion?

>>512913259
Creeptastic

>>512903569 (OP)
The answer is men aren't willing to give up everything to a woman who wouldn't give up anything for them in return. Women are being falsely propped up by the communists as a form of genocide against Whites.

>>512913754
Neither one; Nature has her own way of solving things.

>>512903569 (OP)
go get married and have a kid fucking retard

It's living standards. People in the past and in third world countries today had no social mobility and financial freedom, so they weren't giving up anything by having kids. No one in their 20s in a developed country wants to give up the opportunity to make money and personal freedom to have a child. People cope by saying it's because children are unaffordable, reality is simply they don't want kids. If it was financial barriers you'd see middle class people with 8 kids and poor people with 1, but you see the opposite.

>>512903569 (OP)
>Remove bankers and nationalize the central bank(or at least ensure the country can create currency without having to pay debt to kikes)
This ensures excess wealth doesn't get siphoned by parasites and can instead be invested in future generations.
>Remove women's rights, promote arranged marriages
This ensures women don't waste their most precious and fertile years on wrong things, and that families don't get broken for trivial reasons
>Push hardcore pro-natalism propaganda.
Push it in the media, on the internet, in cinema, music ect. Put posters in every government owned building. I don't care if they are schools, hospitals, police departments, city halls, prisons or mental asylums. All of them should be saturated with pro-natalism propaganda. You can even honor citizens with medals for having enough children. Do whatever it takes.

I do not care if the population collapses. If there are only 1 billion humans in 100 years I will be dead either way.

>>512907804
Male behavior is dictated by incentives. Women incentivize nigger behavior by rewarding it with sex, thus men either act like niggers and get pussy, or they don't and become incels. The "marriage material" you're talking about is not something a man wants to aspire to be. A man wants a woman at her youngest, most optimistic, and most loving. No one wants an "experienced" jaded roastie who wants the world from you, because she expects the best traits from all previous 100 men she fucked from you.

restore palestine

>>512903747
Iran sends their women to college. Their rights aren’t restricted very much.

>>512904437
this is not kosher friendly

>>512903569 (OP)
stop taking gardasil and mrna might help

>>512915638
Pretty sure the post you're replying to is bait, but tradcucks would rather be slowly tortured to death than even entertain the idea of giving men the carrot instead of the stick.

>>512903569 (OP)
Rape works. India proves it.

>>512916876
My personal favorite is the cafeteria christians. When i point out women arent mean to lead the husband is the authority and sexy is a duty that shouldnt be abstain from I even directly quote verses. They duck dodge and dive. Some even say shit like 'well it was older times' or 'paul was sexist' its dogshit.

Letting the heckin GDP go down

>>512903569 (OP)
Stop importing brown people who breed like roaches

>>512903569 (OP)
A real holocaust.

>>512917470
What if we imported white people?

>>512917417
That's problematic because line wouldn't go up.

>>512903569 (OP)
I guess we need more Indians then.

>>512917503
Wouldn't even be necessary at that point. I'm not convinced there's a birth rate problem with whites, the problem is comparing white birth rates to literal cockroaches who shit out a new brown baby every year.

>>512917619
>I'm not convinced there's a birth rate problem with whites
wait until youre at retirement age

>>512917503
This was policy, 1789 to 1965

>>512905474
You're retarded and shouldn't even be thinking of reproduction

>>512903990
Why ask the obvious? Is to replace local population of successful countries with foreigners with zero sense of community and that will approve of anything that dilutes nation and sovereignity. At first it was niggers and arabs, but those are eye candy in comparison to the billions of jeets in reserve for every nation on this Earth. The infinite population economic model meme is jewish, and its only purpose is to shift blame and bring hostiles.

>>512903990
>>512917941
White men, rich and poor, had an average of 5 to 8 children from say, 1500 to 1900.

>>512903569 (OP)
The complete extermination of Jews.

>>512903569 (OP)
I go to work every day and the commute is soul sucking. Maybe we don't need to fix birth rates

>>512903569 (OP)
At this point? Artificial wombs. They will have to build human/humanoid worker drone factories. A reproduction system like that of Brave New World

>>512918346
It solves 99% of the problem. The other 1% is women; and with Jews gone they can be managed.

>>512904983
Doesn't feel like population collapse with how picky they are with jobs and how busy traffic is. They say its gen alpha that is half of millennials so maybe in 10 years it will just feel like half the people dropped dead.

>>512904917
They only people at my local church are 70 years old and a couple of married mid 30s people. The only one I see with young people is called something like the Ugandan ministry which I guess is also like a community centre, white churches could learn from it.

>>512903569 (OP)
Just read some news reports from the early 50's, cheap land and they had to reduce banking hours because there were not enough people to work. Young people don't have a stable base, in the UK you don't know if the Muslims will rule soon, I think a lot of young people are just thinking of ditching the place.

>>512912822
I specifically remember all the daytime talkshows as a kid shaming teen mothers, ewwww having kids is horrible. We got what we wanted.

>>512918584
>It solves 99% of the problem.
100%
the only reason women became a problem was because of jews.
jews knew "liberating" them would cause a cataclysm
democracy has always been a jewish trick

>>512905304
India's birth rate is below replacement rate, believe it or not.
Japan was considered the epitome of overpopulation during the Al Gore Inconvenient Truth era 20 years ago.
Western media would point to Tokyo hotel pods and be like "Japan is overpopulated!"
Korea is even more population dense than Japan.
The reason for the shift in mentality is because Japan, and much of the developed world, is now burdened by their elderly population and rich people want line to keep going up.

>>512918298
They also had tons of wars to curve the numbers of existing population, as well as massive plagues, and that's not even the point since they're weaponizing such tool, not to actually employ it or use it in a good faith argument. They are peddling a clear solution: import infinite foreigners. They ensure it keeps being that way by diluting family, morals, economic incentives and quality of life with the same stone.

the good way - you need to make the work life balance great as well as making child rearing easy
the bad way - restrict women's education and health choices

>>512904829
>say no for obesity butt carry much fat, say yes for obesity stomach carry baby
>You welcome for this profound mongolia wisdom

>>512903569 (OP)
That tweet evinces some pretty shoddy reasoning. One-shot failures like that are too contextualized to draw generalizations from. No state has tried some combination of all these, for example.

>>512904829
wei wu... is that a play on wu wei, "non-doing"? Or is that her real name.

>say no for obesity butt carry much fat, say yes for obesity stomach carry baby
So she's saying women who want the kardashian bum are just carrying useless fat on their arses, but if women become pregnant, they are carrying a baby (which is virtuous). That's actually clever.

>>512904235
Maybe that war had something to do with it...

>>512919316
>Nooooooo you don't get it, women NEED to take birth control meds that poison the water!! They NEED the murder their children!! They NEED to spend their fertile years getting pumped and dumped by randos and being in situationships!!
Shut up, simp.

>>512903569 (OP)
>What will work?
Start here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1m0ytpq/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/

Then read this comment:

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1m0ytpq/attention_at_least_one_rapture_has_already/n5vpisj/

>>512903569 (OP)
Just redistribute wealth by force if necessary.
Turns out that when people (rightfully) feel like they are getting fucked by the system they stop playing.

>>512903569 (OP)
>what will work?
proper wages where a person working full time job can afford to support a family of 4, buy a house and put away enough for college funds and retirement like boomers were able to.

life was objectively pretty shitty for nearly every human to ever exist why do we want more souls trapped in the prison planet

>>512919975
It's a nice larp, but planets are not rocks floating in "space," and we are not on one.

>>512919109
Correct

>>512919933
>being this mad that you're not the one doing the pumping and dumping
Lol the nu-right is just grievance mongering by fags with perpetual skill issues.

>>512903569 (OP)
Fox women.

Not taking “the vax”. Dumb dumb.

Less government.

Not being French, for one...

>>512906863
I'm talking about everything south of the us. It's just more different mexicans

>>512906093

Lack of genetic diversity makes populations vulnerable. One particular virus could wipe everyone out. The same thing happened to the Cavendish banana.

>>512904335
I have a better idea.
>Fefails remain the slave underclass
>Men remain free
Problem, tradcucks?

>>512905111
>uses jew word for babies
>Demands more cattle
I see you.

1-2 kids is the max before it becomes untenable to not have a stay at home mother, which is the entire reason

also most places are overpopulated as it is

>>512903569 (OP)
>what will work?
fiscal incentives do work, and pro natalism policies also

replacement rate is a meme. name one country that fell victim to it and died off. its made up

Nothing.

It's (((the plan))) that birth rates will fall and fall. ;)

.

How did Amish do it

>>512922447
An unbreakable, and very horny, cult.

>>512903569 (OP)
The falling birth rates is due to a myriad of factors which I call "the Infertility Soup."
>Some faggy hippie named Paul Ehrlich wrote a book called the Population Bomb in 1968.
>Author claims the world population is growing so fast that there will be a worldwide famine that destroys civilization
>This book scares the shit out of people and a 1966 novel called "Make Room! Make Room!" about the same topic inspired the 1973 film "Onions Green"
>Governments worldwide start pursuing population growth control
>Also at this time we see a gigantic spike in consumer chemical products and plastic
>These compounds are not naturally occurring
>They get into the body and cannot be removed
>Also around this time a worldwide "sex revolution" is happening that undermines the basic family structure
>Women get access to birth control pills
>Women piss out the pill's compounds and this slowly drips through the soil and ends up in drinking water
>It also ends up in the water we use to hydrate crops and livestock
>Also around this time we get a whole new host of illicit drugs: pot, crack, smack, dope, LSD, psilocybin, ludes, uppers, downers, etc.
>All of this also gets pissed out into drinking water
>makes us less healthy and harms libido
>chemicals in the water TURN THE FRICKEN FROGS GAY
All this comes together in an "infertility soup" that will eventually sterilize every human and most wildlife. We are already seeing the impact of this. There's basically nothing we can do about it either and it is impossible to avoid.

>>512922447
White People need space to breed, like large animals.
If you give a guy 80 acres and a farm, he'll have 10 kids.
They're not going to shit out kids living in a van

>>512922356
No

>>512903569 (OP)
Have they tried not feeding us toxins yet?

>>512922259
Close knit extended families have granny, sisters, cousins, all who have/ can watch each other's kids.
A large, close family is all that matters.

>>512903569 (OP)
Absolute monarchy. No higher education for women. They are only allowed to enter the workforce after they have had their third child.

Those things will fix not only the birth rates but the Jewish problem too. Make usury illegal as well.

>>512922811
Well said anon

>>512905820
Is that real

>>512903569 (OP)
>Restricting women's rights
>Iran

Don't let western propaganda fool you.
The difference between them and the west is superficial and irrelevant.
The women there are just as much as bitches as western women.

t. I went to university (EE) with 2 (TWO) Iranian women about 16 years ago and even fucked one of them

>>512903937
Muslim sewing circles be like...

>>512903569 (OP)
>What will work?
tkd
THANK YOU!

>>512922756
has to be the dumbest take on this website, and that's saying something

>>512922811
pic rel is a good example. they claim to be millionaires who retired at age 29. the wife is cute/submissive and hot. yet they have 0 offspring. all they do is make vids, travel.

>>512903569 (OP)
having sex would work. ain't gonna happen with your incel generation, though.

>>512903569 (OP)
Rape van, duh.

>>512923242
You'll see it for yourself when you get older, won't need me to convince you. The worst part is by the time we notice the problem it will be far, far too late to do anything about it. We'll go into colony collapse and that's it for the species.

>>512903757
End gay marriage
Selective service for all gays and unmarried people

>>512903569 (OP)
Gee, IDK. I guess we have no choice but to keep importing immigrants forever!

>>512903569 (OP)
why is he throwing latin america under the bus? europe and america didn't do shit either.

>>512903569 (OP)
Iran's population is libshit.

>>512903569 (OP)
Ban birth control, duh.

>>512903569 (OP)
You know we get all this talk about how men aren't working and they blame the economy and housing but not one fucking mention of filthy whores aborting every child they conceive or how women would rather fuck dogs than men.

>>512913983
to who? there are no more marriageable women, let alone women who want children.

>>512903569 (OP)
war

we now have to rediscover why war is good and required for a functioning society

>>512903569 (OP)
Give 20% tax break to married couple who have a kid that they support.

That means only people who support their own kids, and it increase to no taxes after the the
5th kid. Up to 21 years old that live with the parents.

We must look to the Inuit and their birth rates.

14-18% YOY population growth, insane.
What are the implications for housing in remote communities because of this?

>>512903966
niggers will have 7 kids regardless nihilist piece of garbage