>Listen up my elf brothers, this dead orc is actually god
>We must abandon our native culture and magic as it is full of sin, witchcraft and idolatry
>Instead we must celebrate suffering and read orcish history
>We must submit to the church of Isengard and give them control of our nation
>We must repent for our sins against the orcs, dragons, and wraiths and pray for them
>We must let in thousands of people from other races if they share our faith in Uruk-Christ
>We must give up our immortality as this world is sinful and we must be obedient and chastised so we can die and go to orc heaven
>You aren’t converting? We shall send in our armies to destroy the evil blasphemous nation of Rivendell

>>512919914 (OP)
10 billion silver coins to mordor

>>512919914 (OP)
Silly example to try and use when Tolkein was a super catholic and God canonically exists in his books

>>512920002
Did you have breakfast today?

>>512919914 (OP)
It's more like an elf went and told everyone that the orcs pretending to be elves weren't elves
You're just regurgitating an orcish interpretation because you're not even an elf yourself

>>512919914 (OP)
You guys should really stop with the grooming, faggot

>>512920085
>clearly doesn't even understand why the question is worded a certain way
You would be the kind of retard impressed by OPs argument.

>>512919914 (OP)
I don't care about the Fall of the Roman Empire because my ancestors were Nordic Barb-Aryans.

Orcs were originally elves before they were corrupted by Melkor. What a bizarre analogy you're trying to create, OP.

>>512920374
That didn't even occur to me, lmao
People need to stop dickriding Tolkien though, it's getting real old

>>512920085
Literally asked you?
And you are either legit shill or some retarded feral turdworlder that talks about things he has no clue about

>>512920002
>Eru Illúvatar
>No trinity
>No son to sacrifice
>Leader of a large pantheon of divine beings (the Ainur)
That ain’t the god of the Bible, buddy.

>>512920439
>too stupid to live
He outright said it

>>512919914 (OP)
Euro paganism was oogabooga archon worship.

>>512920209
>Israelites
>Elves

>>512919914 (OP)
Tolkien was a Christian you seething jewish rat

>>512920374
Nobody cares. /pol/ recognizes elves as Europeans and orcs as middle easterners. You’re looking at the meme from the wrong perspective.

It’s actually the Faustian spirit that can adopt all things fruitful from the poisoned near east in order to purify and ascend as the most powerful of all peoples

>>512920606

Read
>>512920439

>>512920639
You fucked up your meme, Jew. I doubt you've even read Tolkien as it's probably like sunlight to a vampire for a hideously deformed Jew such as yourself.

>>512919914 (OP)
I would embrace this orcish religion, but in order for it to believable there must be ritual penis mutilation.

>>512920374
Guess which character was an allegory for jews

>>512920497
I’m not saying Tolkien wasn’t a Catholic. What I am saying is that Middle Earth is not based on the Bible.

>>512920639
What meme? Your damaged brain shit out an actually awful analogy that only makes sense to you and now you think its a meme? Next time just use a food analogy and don't embarrass yourself

Spam, check cata log.

>>512920712
We could go literally in depth about every single thing about Middle Earth but then we couldn’t use it to make any memes since it is in no way similar to our world. You must be fun at parties.

>>512920665
low IQ

>>512920745
Read about his concept of sub creation. Middle Earth supposed to be our own planet. We're simply in the 7th or 8th age. Which means Jesus and the Bible hasn't happened yet in the LoTR timeline but it eventually will since he perceived it as simply being an alternate, lost history of our own world. Now kindly kill yourself

>>512920749
Who the fuck uses food analogies? We’ve been memeing LOTR on this board for years you retard.

>>512920992
Except you didn't make a meme you idiot.

>>512919914 (OP)
You are a homosexual

>>512920964
Oh, so it’s an extension of the Bible and directly contradicts everything in Genesis? So Tolkien was a heretic? Jump in front of the nearest truck, nigger.

>>512920002
He was also infatuated with jews and despised White nationalists. He'd fit right in with the likes of Noel Ignatiev and Tim Wise.

>>512921030
Genuinely what the fuck are you even talking about, dumbass.

>>512919914 (OP)
This is only apt if the orc lived a sinless life and rose from the dead.

>>512919914 (OP)
Orcposting is back on the menu, boys!

>>512921039
You're saying he is fuentes?

>>512921211
A meme is a popular idea that has spread on its own accord. You mad an analogy, that doesn't make it a fucking meme you stupid idiot.
>>512921100
Truly retarded

>>512920896
There's a great deal in LOTR that applies to the world. The importance of brotherhood. The superiority of Monarchy. The dangers of industrialisation. The threat of centralisation. The West standing as a beacon of light against dark evil from the east and south. But instead, you chose to make a Jewish meme.

>>512921364
So by your logic I didn’t make my own meme, I simply participated in a meme that already existed, which is using LOTR as an analogy to poke fun at niggers and kikes.

>>512921567
What part of "truly retarded" are you struggling with?

>>512921408
But you’re going way more literal than that. You wanna go deeper than analogies and metaphors. Just from the odd response you gave to my post, I’m gonna blatantly assume you wanna literally start talking about dragons, magic, talking trees, immortality, hobbits, and wizards. Based on that logic, Middle Earth is in no way similar to our world.

>>512921408

This sounds smart and makes enough sense to the movies so I'm adhering to this guy

>>512921611
I’m struggling with someone who is truly retarded, and that’s you.

>>512921776
>no u
Sad.

>Israel is our greatest ally!

>>512921733
Ur a big dum dum lmao. Just admit you fucked up, modify your meme for next time, and stop being a silly Kosher sausage.

>>512920735
This meme is dripping with insecurity

>>512920724
What about their foreskins? They don't need them.

>>512921989
You’re the moron who can’t take a meme for as it is. Tell me how orcs and elves being related has anything to do with what I posted.

>>512922036
>can't explain why it's wrong (likely didn't even read it)
>has to consensus crack to shut it down
That meme triggers you kikes so bad

>>512922376
It's funny how the concept of the golem was developed during the peak of christendom in the middle ages. Makes ya think...

Orcs are the best race in Skyrim because they have the best racial power. High Elves are the most hated and we all know it's for a good reason. I rest my case.

>>512922504
>golden age of islam
>peak of christendom

Spammers and shills these days are so lame...

>>512919914 (OP)
Gay. Have mine instead

>>512920439
>No son to sacrifice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb0hGgO6Xek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQ5EOzS7eQE

>>512922604
>In the Middle Ages arose the belief in the possibility of infusing life into a clay or wooden figure of a human being, which figure was termed "golem" by writers of the eighteenth century. The golem grew in size, and could carry any message or obey mechanically any order of its master. It was supposed to be created by the aid of the "Sefer Yeẓirah," that is, by a combination of letters forming a "Shem" (any one of the names of God). The Shem was written on a piece of paper and inserted either in the mouth or in the forehead of the golem, thus bringing it into life and action. Solomon ibn Gabirol is said to have created a maid servant by this means. The king, informed of this, desired to punish him, but Ibn Gabirol showed that his creature was not a real being by restoring every one of its parts to its original form.

>>512922504
>the concept of the golem was developed during the peak of christendom in the middle ages
Well the folk tale is about Christians killing you kikes and your "rabbis" make a "golem" to protect you so that makes sense.
>Makes ya think...
Nah it's very straightforward. You're just trying to pilpul it into something it's not which, again, is perfect evidence you're triggered by my meme.

>>512923098
Actually the golem was mostly used as a shabbos goy, literally just keeping the ovens warm on Saturdays, ironically enough.

>>512921334
...yes

>>512919914 (OP)
christkikes actually believe this

The way that pol retards act as stupid as hebrew israelites in terms of pretending jesus was some kind of aryan conqueror freedom fighter against zog when half of what he talks about is bragging about being the most jewish jew of all time

>>512923368
Nobody cares about the evolution of your disgusting jewish culture and white people especially don't think any of it is "ironic"
It's completely expected behavior from you kikes

You prove my meme is correct with every post

>>512924035
jewz wuz aryanz you jew

>>512924085
I'm just telling you the objective history of how the golem myth came into being. Why are hodosians always so angry and bitter? Ya'll need Buddha or some shit, the nozeri minim ain't working out for you.

>>512924035
Jesus wasn't jewish

jew" is a concept invented and race created after Jesus and anachronistically applied to Jesus
'jew' does not mean Judean. They are separate words
It's like redefining the word "German" to mean "Nazi" and then saying Martin Luther was a Nazi because he was a German which now means Nazi and it "makes sense" because Germans and Nazis supposedly have some cultural overlap in the 1500s or some nonsense.
Peer review from a .org university website:
https://scielo.org.za/scielo.php?script=sci_arttext&pid=S0259-94222008000300008
>The article demonstrates that this thesis is supported by Josephus and also by archaeological evidence. From the perspective of this thesis, the article contends that the term "Jew" does not apply to Galileans. First-century Galileans should rather be understood as "ethnic Judeans"
>>To reiterate: Galileans were not "Jews" who practiced a "religion" called "Judaism". When Jesus, the Galilean, was crucified as the "king of the Judeans" ;
> Following recent voices on this issue and on the proper translation of Ἰουδαῖος we should discard the terms "Jews" (and "Judaism") with regards to the people of Judea, the Diaspora, and Galilee as well, since these terms are anachronistic and misleading for the historical situation in question.
The word "jew" didn't exist in the days of Jesus and neither did a single analogous Greek, Hebrew, or Aramaic word

Jesus was a Judean from Galilee thus it's historically wrong to label him the so called made up word "jew"

>>512921408
Middle earth is Midgard from Nordic mythology

>>512919914 (OP)
Orcs used to be elves, you know. It's a shame to see how far the ashkenazi genes have degenerated.

>>512924115
denounce the talmud!!!! you triggered my trap card
>>512924241
Jew means of the tribe of judah, which jesus claims to be the king of. The new testament has an entire section explaining his jewish lineage and how it makes him liable to be king of the jews

>>512924211
>I'm just telling you the objective history
ROFL no you're not you lying jew. The lore came into being because Christians were killing you kikes and your "rabbis" needed a shapeless creature to protect you.

You prove my meme is correct with every post

Poo with an internet connection.

>>512924371
>Jew means of the tribe of judah
Nope. See >>512924241
>which jesus claims to be the king of
Nope. Historical Jesus never said that.
>The new testament has an entire section explaining his jewish lineage
Nope. It was Israelite lineage and they were not jewish either of course...See >>512924241

Notice how the kike could not refute a single word I said, it just tried (and failed) to rephrase its original false premise in a different way

Typical kike tricks

>>512924400
Where do you get your jewish history from? The Bible?

>During the first century of Christianity the Rabbis lived on friendly terms with the minim. Rabbi Eliezer, who denied to the heathen a share in the future life, is said to have discoursed with the Judæo-Christian Jacob of Kefar Sekanya and to have quietly listened to the interpretation of a Biblical verse he had received from Jesus ('Ab. Zarah 16b; Eccl. R. i. 8). Ben Dama, a nephew of R. Ishmael, having been bitten by a snake, allowed himself to be cured by means of an exorcism uttered by the min Jacob, a Judæo-Christian.

>>512922504
>well it's definitely not yet another metaphor for horrible, caniballistic self-destructive hubris of my people
>the christian book says nothing about such things

>>512924650
I'm not jewish, but jesus was

>>512920551

>>512920209
>>512920551
>I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
>But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me

>Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Judean and are not, but are lying — I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you.

>And you took up the tent of Moloch, and the star of the god Remphan, the images which you made to worship; and I will remove you beyond Babylon.

>>512924241
Pilpul much?

>>512924994
>>512925022
Get a load of this goy

>>512925115
>>512920209

>>512924584
Mexicans are tiresome to deal with lol

>>512925184
Lol wrong pic sorry

>>512925209

>>512925288
Are you genuinely this fucking retarded lol

The term yehudim is the originator of the word for jews in essentially every language that has interacted with them

Do you actually

>>512925170
We've seen this all before, nobody cares

>>512924606
>jewish history from? The Bible?
That's like asking if you get your Chinese history from the Bible kek
you're one dumb jew

>>512925088
>>512925184
>can't explain why anything I said is wrong (obviously didn't even read it)
>has to consensus crack to shut it down
Tel aviv has blacklisted me. Their kikes aren't even allowed to try to refute me anymore because they keep getting stomped. Last year they went past bump limit trying to refute me (and failed every time)

Oh well. Concession accepted, jew rats :^)

>>512925572
Ok because I used JewishEncyclopedia.com and you're right that the first golem appears to be some kind of destructive "monster" but it later became more popularized as a helpful servant, so we were both right in our own ways.

>>512925859
>kike is playing dumb about its own folk lore to trick us into thinking it's not a jew

>>512925572
>>512925984
Here's the legend about the golem being used as a shabbos goy

>>512925572
I didnt realize your argument is that jews didnt literally use the english word "jew" lol you are way way stupider than i thought

Retard thread. Tolkien was a devout catholic and the entire setting was a synthesis of european pagan myth and native language with christendom. You know, kinda like exactly what the catholic church has historically done with saints and holidays.

>>512924584

All this effort to claim ownership of the jew god Yahweh and guy claiming to be the jew Yahweh's son. Muslims do these mental gymnastics too. I don't get it.

Why? Constantine converting to christcuckoldry was a mistake.

>>512919914 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s

>>512924241
>Born from a Jewish mother in the land of the Jews
>Referred to in biblical text as king of the Jews
>Not Jewish

Whatever you gotta tell yourself to reconcile that contradiction Jew lover.

>>512925451
>nobody cares
About you and your shit, touristo

>>512926857
>Jew lover.
You literally believe in official narrative written by jews and their shabbo goys
You are one here who loves jews>>512926952

>>512926765
A) The word "yahweh" is a later invention, 6th century A.D. at the earliest.
B) The original Old Testament was written in Greek.

JEWS RAPE KIDS

>>512922795
it is christcuckery elevated by paganism and the roots of old european tales without those lotr would be nothing

>>512920085
lol, how would you feel if someone lied to you in regards to a fundamental truth this morning?

>>512926422
Tolkien ripped off everything from other people

>>512926952
Then why bother replying, pidor? Get droned.

>>512919914 (OP)
This daily shitting on christianity.... Constantly yapping about jesus is a jew. Why do you never criticize judaism or islam? We need a faith, something to bind the people together. Just look at most if the western countries, they have a cross in it, symbolizing their inherit connection through faith. Do you even have an alternative? No, of course you don't. All you do is try to demoralize western countries, because this cesspit is filled with rat jews and pig muslims.

>>512927656
Pretty normal. It happens often enough that I'm used to it.

why can leftists only do pop culture refrences?

>>512927844
Literally anything but a male jewish entity. Just have nothing for a while and we would reinvent a whole new pantheon and enter into a new age of heroes. Stop sniffing around that rotting carcass looking for sustenance.

>>512927883
understandable.

>>512919914 (OP)
The jews hate and fear Christianity more than everything else put together. If you don't know this you no nothing about the jews.

>>512928262
Nice try, Moshe. Only thing the Jew fears is rejection of their jewry. Feel free to piss and shit yourself.

>>512928262
They fear their own people taking the poison and thinking that they actually found the messiah.

>>512925353

>>512919914 (OP)
I love it. They're too dumb to realize Jesus was a Jewish rabbi who hated them, mislead them and created in them a suicidal self hatred complex to willingly be defeated, give everything they own away, and become the perfect shabbos goy berry pickers like they do in Israel. The ultimate cucks lol

>>512928068
No alternative of course, aids ridden hedonist jew

>>512930396
Use your head and come to your own conclusions about the nature of reality, White man. btw when we say that jesus is a jew (biblical fact) it's also an indictment against jews. Don't get so angry and vulgar, wrathful sinner. It's all too easy to sift you and discover what truly lies within your black hearts.

>>512920002
considering the Dwarves represent the Hebrews and Israelites, especially the whole bit of history about the line of Durin as seen in the Hobbit. and theres likewise line of Orcs which rival Durins bloodline and wishes to annihilate them.. like Amalekites or something. and the Dwarves wish to return to their lost homeland and blah blah

but yeah that whole world is based on a creation story, and center to it is the theme of the corruption of evil or sin. and theres those who are lawful, upright and good and then those who wish to just wipe everyone else out. they have no other real goal besides to raid, pillage, destroy, leave no one alive.

Aragon is another obvious candidate for a Christ like messianic king that is prophesied to return and lead the people to victory over hte forces of evil.

but comparing the Orcs to Christ and his followers is an absurd assertion. Christians are simply the realm of men, not Elfs and especially not Orcs. theyre Hamites not Semites. DUH all the trolls, goblins etc represent the corrupt forms of people that have given into the Hamite empire.. aka Morgoth. that guy would be Lucifer, The Devil, Satan etc.

>>512927844
funniest move ever would be to pull an Alexander and name everything Josh cause a lot of the pagan schizos and sacrificers are deeply terrified of the Joshua name prophecy, we personally thing nuggets of truth are found everywhere along with slop but their pettiness to oppress the joshes of the world would make us do this just to fuck with their mental.

>>512920735

>>512924241
Sure thing buddy

>>512920745
if you think The Bible played no part in shaping Tolkien's world, you're sorely mistaken. you don't know the Bible or him, pal. the dude must've been an occultist and freemason who knew certain secrets that are still kept from people today.

such as, the Lonely Mountain is real, its in the center of Antarctica. its filled with more gold veins than any other area in the world. theres hundreds of millions of tons of the stuff. and not only that, trapped within the ice was frozen creatures. one of which a Tyrannosaurus Rex that was larger than any other remains that have been discovered. it was living in and around that mountain.

>>512929364

>>512930902

>>512930902
>Dwarves represent the Hebrews and Israelites
Ya do know Dwarves are from Norse myth, right? Gandalf was actually a name for one of the dwarves, which makes sense since he hangs out with them in The Hobbit.

Dwemer do be jewy, tho

>>512930903
It was so based when joshua genocided the gentiles, my fellow goy.

comparing Orcs to Christians or Jews and Jesus Christ is like the equivalent of satanic gnostics reinterpreting canon to make Jesus into Satan/Lucifer. most people are smart enough to not be tricked by such nonsense, yet some people still entertain the idea no matter how little sense it makes.

its a creation story filled with prophesies and kings and all sorts of things which mirror both scripture, and the history our world.

and if theres any Hebrews to be found within the story, its the Dwarves. and notice how theres rivalries between Dwarves and the other "good" races. they dont exactly like each other, but they don't hate each other to wish to completely annihilate each other.

and in the Bible from beginning ot end there is this spiritual divide and war going on. at moments its between two brothers, each moving in slightly different directions. and sometimes the more wicked or sinful one survives and the good one is killed. but there is this constant back and forth and there is the struggle between to general kingdoms. there is Kingdom of God as its meant to be. id put Noah, Shem and Japheth on that side. those guys were about trying to make the New World into a Heaven or paradise after the flood. and likewise there is Ham.. whom id identify as Morgoth or Lucifer, Satan, The Devil, Zeus, Ba'al, Moloch etc. and he fell from grace, from his/The Father, from God. and his goal became to wipe out and destroy the Semites and Japhethites so that only the Hamites remained in the world. and make no mistake, the Orcs, Trolls, Gobos etc are representative of the Hamite nations and empires throughout history, and those who rebelled against Noah and the tribes of his other two sons. and even after Ham's death, his loyal followers continued to do his work.. because his spirit endured. right? its all the same once you understand scripture contextually.

i think the problem is that things get a little twisted once theres Gnosticism, the occult and Esotericism involved.

>>512919914 (OP)
The worst thing Hackson films did was ruin the already troubled discourse of Tolkien Orcs
Absolute retards

EVERY PAJEET SAYS
>$45T stolen by britain * abrahamic * actually jews are cool * AI singularity/waifu * aryan * booba/sexo/would * built for bbc * can't breed * ceo doctor technology * chang seething * christcucks * consent is a western concept * daily reminder * faustian spirit * full sapport for israel * good morning * help i'm fucking indian help me * household income * human capital * hypergamy/[incel noises] * i can pass for xyz * indo-[whatever] * model immigrants * mom/sister on onlyfans * [other ethnicity] is guilty of [pajeet thing] * कुछ भी महत्वपूर्ण नहीं है * paganism is your real heritage * [redditor noises] * rent free * saar * send bobs/vagene * slave morality * stem skill issue * timmy/timmies * trvth nvke * voted for it * where are the jannies * where should i move * whiter than you * why are white women white people * you need us * you will be extinct * you won't do shit * you worship xyz

learn to recognize pajeet threads. learn to stop giving (You)s, which end up as rupees, to OPs like this. jews pay pajeets to spam this board en masse with the same globohomo agenda that you're still associating with only jews. since 2023 you are much more likely to see jew noise posted by a pajeet. there are a hundred times as many pajeets as there are jews. if you want any part of the internet to survive, you must detect, reject and redeem pajeets everywhere you find them

only a few specific groups have the time or inclination to spam anti-christianity so frequently. one of these groups (pajeets) is much more numerous and less qualified than the others

the majority of pajeets on /pol/ try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

no white people are derived from the south asian subcontinent. white people are of the western world, of european tradition and ancestry (aka christendom). white people explored, colonized and uplifted the world's straggling diversity into a modern age. meanwhile pajeets waited centuries for the next superior outsiders to give them purpose and identity.

"aryans" were an ancient example of white people, and they no longer exist in that form. there is no "indo-european" anything worth mentioning. the modern pajeet is a degraded copy of a copy of an ancient aryan's slave, long abandoned to his own primitive devices. a more recent example of abandoned pajeet slaves, this time far from home, are the gypsies in europe.

it would seem that the distasteful business of slavery may have evolved to meet the needs of the slaves themselves. what if specific cultures of humanity are natural and organic slaves, and to deprive them of their god-given role in life can only result in corruptions? what if freedom is only a mind-bending poison to these poor souls, and separates them from instinctive happiness? then what has been done to so many? what cruelty has this been, raising them up to stand as peers and rivals to anyone?

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

>>512932229
are you a retarded kike loving kike worshiping subhuman nigger mutt?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes