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Anonymous (ID: S/qxRSTh) United States No.512932721 >>512932792 >>512933687 >>512934125 >>512934353 >>512934724 >>512937840 >>512943205 >>512945057 >>512945469 >>512945511 >>512945756 >>512945778 >>512947460 >>512948650 >>512948943 >>512950396 >>512951873 >>512952351 >>512954040 >>512954104 >>512954235 >>512961117 >>512963029 >>512963964
>be Jewish
>watch God turn a staff into a snake, a river into blood, send down fireballs, plagues and darkness to only your enemies, make all your enemies firstborn drop dead overnight, guide you to the promised land with cloud pillars at day and fire pillars at night, split the sea so you can cross, make it crash down on only your enemies, ending your slavery
>be Jewish
>so you still worship gold
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512932792 >>512934041 >>512934205 >>512945538 >>512946255 >>512961030
>>512932721 (OP)
There are several Gods. Some of them are good, some are evil, some just want to meme. Yhwh probably belongs in the second category.
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512933687 >>512934095 >>512937179 >>512941933 >>512945469 >>512945625
>>512932721 (OP)
>make world that kind of sucks
>it's all gate kept and artificially closed off with your dreams and desires being cut off and made impossible
>except for the one that made it, free to do as he pleases while demanding restrictions on others
>comes to earth, shows off that he can do what he wants, but not you
>does all kinds of tricks except still doesnt make the world awesome, still sucks
>starts threatening people for being ingrates instead of fixing how it sucks, further threatens to not only kill and torture most people but that it's going to make thing even worse if they don't stfu and get in line doing what the thing that made the shitty place wants at the cost of tossing your own dreams, wants and ideals to the side
>holy fuck why don't these shitty humans adore me? I've tried everything... treating them like shit, punishing them, threatening them, murdering them, making their lives into a slow suffering, what gives?? Why don't they all bow at my feet?? I know i need a day of revenge to fix this!! Fuck these pesky rebellious humans, i mean, I said I made them and how they are but for some reason I cant just fix this problem or make them in a way they benefits all parties and improves the experience for some reason but I just won't explain it, but it's totally not a lie or manipulation, let's stick with plan A, murder nearly everyone, destroy everything and then be a hypocrite spouting off about pacifism and mercy.

Yeah I don't know, why are some people so illogical to not want to just bow down to perfect authority that's so wonderful and merciful and competent?

What gives?
Anonymous (ID: XxNSk5VI) United States No.512934041 >>512945499 >>512945511 >>512945925 >>512949240 >>512960712 >>512963447 >>512963603
>>512932792
>There are several Gods.
incorrect.
the word "God" itself implies there can only be one.
get well soon.
Anonymous (ID: XxNSk5VI) United States No.512934095 >>512934667
>>512933687
>comes to earth, shows off that he can do what he wants, but not you
this is unequivocally false, anon.
He showed that you can do it too, if you just stop sinning.
Anonymous (ID: XxNSk5VI) United States No.512934125
>>512932721 (OP)
>so you still worship gold
they do say that judaism is passed on through the mother...
Anonymous (ID: zACYc84Y) United States No.512934205 >>512934625 >>512935594 >>512963603
>>512932792
no yahweh is the evil sect of machine elves
pol has never been wrong about this
once you let the jude machine elves in your life turns to bloodletting and child sacrifice because in the 4th dimension the machine elves that makeup satan are around you
Anonymous (ID: LWwAQpc2) United States No.512934353 >>512940179 >>512960973
>>512932721 (OP)
The Hebrews of the Bible were White people. The Canaanites were modern day jews.
Anonymous (ID: XxNSk5VI) United States No.512934625
>>512934205
>machine elves
if you saw those instead of the faces from the tool albums when you did dmt then you're literally not saved.
you need to accept christ into your heart, not just your intellect.
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512934667 >>512943027
>>512934095
>uh oh you made to many false statements, had orgasms out wedlock and thought your neighbor had a nicer house than your own and a hot wife that's more attractive than yours... you also wanted to persue your interests first instead of making the glorification of God your primary endeavor... looks like you get the fire pile... like chaff to be burned up, a goat to be set aside while the sheep are brought into the barn, such is the fate of the godless you see, that's just the transcendent and holy love at work...

And what of the one who has prepared the fire?? Punishment for it's transgressions and cruelty?? A rod prepared for creating a context of suffering and sin and corruption?? No, blessed forever and ever in heaven amen... and all those who so much as dislike this hypocrisy, pain, suffering, tribulation and sin accounted to them...

You see do as I say, not as I do.

Thou shalt not kill, and if you do the lord will murder you!!

Maybe if you're good enough you can live above the law like God too and go break all the fake rules and lie about it too.

And the land he gives away, he takes back, but of course this isn't theft, it's his to begin with.

And he destroys the wicked, but this isn't wickedness or murder of course, does the potter not have the right to break his own vessel?

And you shall not covet, but these other Gods bring your god much jealousy, pay no mind!

After all the good tree does not produce branches of thorns and fruits of corruption... that's why God looked down from heaven and saw that not one of the men he produced was good... not one.

And how does the story start?? A God lies to a man and a woman about a fruit, and a snake tells them the truth, only for all 3 to be cursed for their disobedience, the snake can't claim ignorance, but the man and woman did not know.

Perhaps you can explain these stories, or why it is OK for God by law to sin but not man. Why does God offer up a scapegoat (devil) instead of simply not sinning?
Anonymous (ID: eY8SMCQb) Netherlands No.512934724
>>512932721 (OP)
You mistake worship for love and admiration.
Worship is submission, wariness, acknowledgement or fear, whether you admit it or not.
Anonymous (ID: xQIHSr/t) No.512935594
>>512934205
I've seen a regular ass elf.
But tell be about these mechanical elves?
Anonymous (ID: iBqp5fcl) Portugal No.512937179
>>512933687
Such is the concept of divinity borne of a Jewish mind.
Anonymous (ID: 9XaSTZSk) United States No.512937840
>>512932721 (OP)
>what is metaphor
Suffering is the point. How else would you know you're alive? How else would you learn what questions to ask?
Anonymous (ID: jWvco4hU) United States No.512940179
>>512934353
It says the canaanites are more numerous though

Also Rabban Gamliel the pharisee is in both the talmud (as a writer) and the New Testament

Also Jesus is quoting the school of Hillel (who also authored some of the talmud, who was a pharisee) most of the time

Why are timmys we-wuzzing? Where is your wedding garment, Esau?
Anonymous (ID: Cun8UOdq) United States No.512941933 >>512944853 >>512948805
>>512933687
What are the dreams, desires, and wants of the jews Anon?
If the jews were given omnipotence what would they achieve that is better than earth and heaven which they haven't even seen yet?
See what they have done with what little mortal power they have been given on the earth. They deserve the inconvenience of the earth and the torment of hell afterwards. They failed the marshmallow test on a cosmic scale every single time, and the only thing they can sacrifice to fix it they fight tooth and nail to never give away: acceptance of even a small amount of accountability and humility. No amount of sacrifices of physical goods can over overcome that. But they don't care because spiritually they are narcissists that refuse to accept that they are not perfect and indulge the delusion that they are better than God.
The coals of hell are jewish souls. Burning at the very bottom.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512943027 >>512945293
>>512934667
if god (or something else) doesn't exist then what are we all doing here?

just a suffing machine that came from nothing?
Anonymous (ID: mp1sqXye) United States No.512943205
>>512932721 (OP)
>>be Jewish
Are you talking about yourself? Moses was not jewish.
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512944853 >>512944980 >>512945399 >>512945599
>>512941933
>they deserve
>people's lives should be hell because of xyz

I disagree. All living sentience deserves a form of idealized optimization if it's manageable to what ever degree possible and their actions are irrelevant and shouldn't even be accounted for especially when considering stupid error prone beings that both start and live in ignorance.

>think they are better than God
Again irrelevant.

You can think you're a chocolate marshmallow, it doesnt mean much of anything when you are not a chocolate marshmallow. You can also assert you are God for all it matters, if you are limited, imperfect and flawed you might find all doing so does is alienate yourself from others that don't appreciate or care for your new found apparent godhood.

That which inspires admiration does what it does. That which inspires contempt likewise does what it does.

The designed are not responsible for what they were given as a design, this responsibility falls to the designer.

If "jews" are this or that as you say, they can be redeemed and made great, just as any other, if it can be made one way, it can be made another, and such and so on...

Something ultimate should be able to produce something that demonstrates an ultimate nature, if it is incapable it is not ultimate by definition.

Claims seem irrelevant in this respect, a homeless dog can bark out in dog speech that it is the ultimate, if it's just a flee bitten dog with mange biting through the trash, than it is what it is, validation or devalidation won't change this... a liar who has a world bow down and call it God is still just a liar, and if the true God of all things is, then it is, it does not require confirmation to be so if it is so.
Anonymous (ID: Cun8UOdq) United States No.512944980 >>512945669
>>512944853
I think you might have completely missed my point, or are intentional misconstruing it. Are you Jewish?
Anonymous (ID: Da0L5FCw) United States No.512945057
>>512932721 (OP)
>be jewish
>make up some bullshit and write it all down
>faggot spics pretend it is real because "why would jews lie?"
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512945293
>>512943027
>if one thing exists, it means everything it says and claims are true because a select thing it said was true even when it contradicts it's self regularily in its own accounts and violates it's own sentiments

I don't know. If there is a God, it is ultimate, not limited and not low and bitter and requiring of producing a cruel system of psychological abuse to derrive behavioral compliance by emotional manipulation.

This is crude and imperfect and is not evidence of divinity as it can be easily accomplished with just knowing.

Not only this imagination dictates that this is crude because you can imagine potential that exceeds this method in both effectiveness and satisfaction of either or all parties involved, making it seem sub optimal/crude. But to a lower being, it might be nessicary due to limitation of ability, even a human can implementent a system of operand conditioning, it does not require divinity or unbounded power and knowledge of all and every thing conceivable.

If there is a God and you can imagine a thing, it can do it.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512945399
>>512944853
you helping the ants are you?
no you're not, you just let them keep being ants.
Anonymous (ID: NL8KAv/z) United States No.512945469 >>512948805
>>512932721 (OP)
they were Hebrews, not Jews. they didn't become Jews until they actually received the Holy Land some 40 years after wandering in the wilderness. they then settled in what became Judea.

>>512933687
stop greentexting lists of falsehoods as if they're facts. it makes for shit threads.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512945499
>>512934041
God is derived from Godan which was used to describe Odin. But then it became a term used to describe deities.
Anonymous (ID: 7n32a2Q4) Austria No.512945511
>>512932721 (OP)
none of those things happened
>>512934041
>get well soon.
>says the schizophrenic who believes in jewish desert stories
Ironic but that's to be expected
Anonymous (ID: NL8KAv/z) United States No.512945538 >>512945959 >>512963603
>>512932792
false. there is the God of gods, The Father of the gods, and then the gods. now, people from india worshipped both good and evil, but ultimately worshipping even the good ones is wrong in light of the Almighty, the most high.. you don't worship angels, you worship God. it doesnt matter if they're fallen angels or still loyal to God
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512945599
>>512944853
also free will
if you make a perfect universe with no evil then it isnt really anything more than like a computer game I guess?
Anonymous (ID: H1TZeWA6) United States No.512945625 >>512948805
>>512933687
>if God can’t handle me at my worst then he doesn’t deserve me at my best
Kek, woman brained faggot.
Repent
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512945669 >>512946012 >>512946324
>>512944980
>you missed my point
You dislike jews and want them to suffer for their behavior as it is their behavior you dislike them for. Was this not the point you were making? What did I miss?

>you are intentionally misrepresenting my point
???
I don't think people should suffer, I don't really care what they've done. If you can give them a better life where they live a dream, where they end up in a paradise that doesnt produce poor quality messed up lives of deviance, than to me it shouldn't even matter. Ex murderer? Oh well, how about a new life where they are not a murderer but instead a family man with 5 kids, and an unlimited trust fund in world where they don't have to steal, don't have to work, don't have to fight and there is near endless novelty of enjoyable family activities to experience and their family and friends truly and deeply appreciate their existence and enjoy time with them??

What's wrong with this?? Better outcomes are simply better.
Anonymous (ID: GMXHHDyh) Australia No.512945756
>>512932721 (OP)
None of these things happened.
Anonymous (ID: nPoO2kqm) Spain No.512945778
>>512932721 (OP)
The Exodus is a completely mythical tale. The most plausible theory is that the Jews joined the Hyksos in their conquest of the northern kingdom of Egypt, and when the Pharaoh of Thebes finally pursued them, they went straight to Canaan to take Jericho.
By the way, the Exodus was written during the Babylonian exile, around 700 years after the so-called Exodus.
Anonymous (ID: nPoO2kqm) Spain No.512945925
>>512934041
In the same Tanaj and Bible you can read how Hashem mention other Gods, from Baal, Set, El, Mot, etc.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512945959
>>512945538
God of gods is everything and nothing at once which includes reality itself. It has no personality so worshipping it doesn't makes sense.
Anonymous (ID: Cun8UOdq) United States No.512946012
>>512945669
I see now. Not Jewish, just autistic. Nice doubling down on missing the point.
Anonymous (ID: rwccN3Mp) Italy No.512946255 >>512946379 >>512953673 >>512963603
>>512932792
There is only one God which is the first cause of all the things and our natural reason suggest this, all the other "gods" are simply demons.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512946324 >>512947018
>>512945669
getting everything you want makes you a shitty person.
being a shitty person creates evil.
uncreate that shitty person and make him good then he doesnt even exist. if they dont exist why bother creating them in the first place?
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512946379 >>512947172
>>512946255
You have any non jewish source as a proof to back your claim?
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512947018 >>512947114 >>512947237
>>512946324
>getting everything you want makes you a shitty person

So if you were God, why not simply reverse this. Getting everything you want/good things/good treatment makes you a great and satisfied person. Etc.

Is this not part of the problem with this world?
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512947114 >>512947234 >>512948670
>>512947018
yeah but then I'm just playing dolls arent I?
To create something it needs free will
Anonymous (ID: rwccN3Mp) Italy No.512947172 >>512947439
>>512946379
Aristotelian philosophy and logic.
Anonymous (ID: Q8EJFDZm) United States No.512947229 >>512949290 >>512951873
>be jewish
>listen to some other lying schizo jew fag claim God turn a staff into a snake, a river into blood, send down fireballs, plagues and darkness to only your enemies, make all your enemies firstborn drop dead overnight, guide you to the promised land with cloud pillars at day and fire pillars at night, split the sea so you can cross, make it crash down on only your enemies, ending your slavery
>none of this shit ever happened
>you continue to worship gold
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512947234 >>512947267
>>512947114
Free will doesn't exist. If it does than your one omnipotent creator theory fails.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512947237
>>512947018
also you could say thats what an animal is
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512947267 >>512947565
>>512947234
why?
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512947439 >>512948419
>>512947172
It doesn't say other gods are simply demons.
Captain James (ID: hplmPC26) No.512947460
>>512932721 (OP)
Those were Israelites, not so called Jews. You should probably take what you're reading over what you were taught by the world around you.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512947565 >>512948022 >>512948419
>>512947267
Because that would mean the individual have created a metaphysical realm separate from God. Which contradicts the basic laws of omnipotence.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512948022 >>512948460
>>512947565
omnipotence meaning knowing all and seeing all?
Anonymous (ID: rwccN3Mp) Italy No.512948419 >>512948566
>>512947565
Free will is tied to the soul, soul is created by God not by the individuals.

>>512947439
It is a deduction that we can do, if there is only one Creator that is omnipotent, eternal and infinite, who are these gods?
They could be angels but an angel would never call himself God, only fallen angels (demons) called themself god but they are not.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512948460 >>512948870
>>512948022
No that is omniscient. Which should be another quality that a single creator should have. Omnipotence is having power over everything.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512948566 >>512949052 >>512950788
>>512948419
Because everything including Humans and Gods are its aspect. Gods are in an elevated state while Humans are below. When you are everything you have no attributes or personality because attributes and personality can only be developed from reaction/observance of external factors.
Anonymous (ID: abF3iyH9) United States No.512948650 >>512948856
>>512932721 (OP)
all mushroom references to amanita muscaria, the OG red pill
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512948670 >>512949395
>>512947114
I'm not sure why the word free will is important. The term is like an oxymoron.

A will is a bound/constraint in and of its self, the world free implies an absence of constraint.

If you have a way of being, you are limited to that way, you are given a self and a self is a bound. Your motivations and innate functions, desires, etc. Are given to you. If this wasn't bound you could and would just be different forms and beings from one instant to the next without order or constraint which self evidently is not the case.

The relevance of this is like saying a man is worthy of condemnation because he was too stupid and ignorant and not tall and strong enough. Why did he not use his will for an extra 200 iq points, and will a stronger sense of self restraint, why did he not will himself into a desireless state free from preference, if he had only willed himself to be 2 ft taller and able to lift 4000 more lbs he would be a different person worthy enough.

The idea doesn't seem to make sense to me. Even your own sense of agency is dependant on a self. If that sense of self is designed and given by another, with your starting point being ignorance in an environment designed and controlled by something completely alien and unknown to you, what relevance is the idea that you do have agency assuming you do have agency and it is fully under your ownership?? Given the constraints you can still be made to do nearly anything given that which manipulates the context of the situations has enough information and is intelligent enough, this much seems self evident.

I think the movie free willy about the whale pointed fun at this. Why didn't keko the whale just use his free will to go to whale heaven? He performed all the tricks his handlers asked of him in his artifical reality, and was set free, only to have his story end in his previous training and manipulation by his handlers costing him his life in an isolated whale hell, dependant on humans, even when he obeyed
Anonymous (ID: vWpwB9vi) United States No.512948805
>>512941933
>>512945469
>>512945625
Seething christcucks can't handle the truth lol
Anonymous (ID: abF3iyH9) United States No.512948856 >>512961362
>>512948650
>all mushroom references to amanita muscaria, the OG red pill
Honestly, you christ cucks are so dumb to not figure this out.
Tree of knowledge
Burning Bush
Manna
Noah's Ark
even lord jesus himself - a mushroom.

personified then deified -
you eat the mushroom and become the I AM

Eating the mushroom is the real wafer. the true baptism of fire
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512948870 >>512948990
>>512948460
Youre talking about predeterminism.
It's a sticky one.
Anonymous (ID: erS1Ye3r) United States No.512948943
>>512932721 (OP)
"Yahweh" The Deciever only brought two of the Israelites to the 'Promised Land,' Caleb and Joshua. Everyone else who left Egypt died in the wilderness. It says so in your book. Read it.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512948990 >>512949567 >>512949662 >>512949976
>>512948870
Thing is, if we consider free will exist, we are acknowledging the fact that a realm (even if its in the mind) detached of creator exist. Which basically implies we became a mini god who created our own realm where we are in control.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512949052 >>512949227
>>512948566
isnt this pantheism?
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512949227 >>512949621
>>512949052
Yes. But in some cases Pantheism have one major God and rest of Gods are valid. But I doubt it says the main god has no attributes.
Anonymous (ID: YMYZDmBZ) United States No.512949240
>>512934041
I hope you stop believing jewish fairytales are real anon, I know they comfort you and make you feel important but they're no more real than Superman/Zeus/Krishna is.
Anonymous (ID: YMYZDmBZ) United States No.512949290
>>512947229
/thread.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512949395 >>512950743
>>512948670
youre saying that free will can only exist if its not constrained in any way?
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512949567 >>512949804 >>512953238
>>512948990
or seperate from god
which could be what the entity is trying to warn us about. that this realm is away from god (or brahman?) and that is what non existence is
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512949621 >>512949854 >>512953238
>>512949227
do you belive in anything outside reality?
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512949662 >>512950348 >>512953669
>>512948990
Very insightful post.
Omnipotence implies that we are nothing more than characters in a pre-written story.
Free will does not exist.

Your eyes have seen my unshaped substance;
And in Your book all of them were written
The days that were formed for me,
When as yet there was not one of them.
— Psalm 139:16

You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who resists His will?”
— Romans 9:19

That being said, just like characters in a story make choices and receive their dues, we too shall experience the same.

The end of the matter, all that has been heard: fear God and keep His commandments, because this is the end of the matter for all mankind. For God will bring every work to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.
— Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512949804 >>512951204
>>512949567
God created all things.
Everything comes from Him.
There is no realm distinct from God's creation.

The One forming light and creating darkness,
Producing peace and creating calamity;
I am Yahweh who does all these.
— Isaiah 45:7
Anonymous (ID: jACd8foC) United States No.512949854
>>512949621
There's nothing outside of reality, silly; it's all encompassing. I think you mean outside of time/the material universe.
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512949976 >>512953465
>>512948990
also could this simply be the case?
Anonymous (ID: wIoILCoz) Australia No.512950348
>>512949662
but if he doesn't exist then ive fucked myself out of pussy and ass and money
how can a man decide? how does one live life in the face of unknowing?
Anonymous (ID: JEC9ZaST) India No.512950396
>>512932721 (OP)
God choosing fucking middle east deserts for all the happenings have always made be suspicious of all types abrahamisms
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512950743 >>512951953
>>512949395
Without an order or qualities that produce a self, is it even a self anymore?

And if there is a you and qualities that make a you, how is this a non-restriction or a disorder? As opposed to a bound/restriction or order.

If you put the word free in front it doesn't seem to change this. A free set of qualities?

What difference does this make when the design of the set is outside of your preview? To have agency to make choices, but unable to choose the chooser or the motivations that create the choice??

If you had responsibility here it would be your world and under your complete control, anything less is the choice of another that gives to you freely as it sees fit rather than as you see fit. Perhaps without the you it would suddenly become possible but what profits a self if it loses it's self to gain a world?
Anonymous (ID: rwccN3Mp) Italy No.512950788 >>512950978 >>512951116 >>512953528 >>512960957
>>512948566
Humans, animals, plants are not God, they are separate entities created from God.
When God created universe he made it because of love, this because an omnipotent and perfect entity doesn't create for satisfy a need so if He creates is because of a free act of love.
For this love he give us free will and free will implies that He don't intervene in every our choice otherwise there would not be free will.
He is still omnipotent but He cannot do evil since evil is an imperfetion and he is perfect, so He is not omnipotent on a rethoric point of view (he can do everything also the evil) but on a real point of view that implies limits on the concept of omnipotency.
Anonymous (ID: CDiVgfJC) United States No.512950978 >>512952015
>>512950788
>For this love he give us free will and free will implies that He don't intervene in every our choice otherwise there would not be free will.
>give us free will
Which implies it was never free. You don't have free will when your omnipotent and omniscient God had a will that always supercedes yours
Anonymous (ID: cnYB20Ll) United States No.512951116
>>512950788
>He don't intervene in every our choice otherwise there would not be free will.
He did exactly that with the Pharoah by hardening his heart. Also
>In their hearts humans plan their course, but the LORD establishes their steps
Anonymous (ID: cnYB20Ll) United States No.512951204 >>512952106 >>512960587
>>512949804
>Producing peace and creating calamity;
Calamity aka evil
Anonymous (ID: BBs3Lf4O) No.512951873 >>512952077
>>512932721 (OP)
>staff into a snake
>>512947229
>listen to some other lying schizo jew fag claim God turn a staff into a snake

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiuhcoatl

Huītzilōpōchtli = Melqart = Heralces

Huītzilōpōchtli led the Aztecs out of the place where they were oppressed and told the Aztecs to change their name and gave them a new identity (does this remind you of anything?). He had a fire staff that could turn into a snake.

The founding of the city of Tire and Mexico City is similar. Huītzilōpōchtli and Melqart (Heracles) say to swim to a place where there is a special tree/cactus and on which a bird sits and below which a snake crawls.

Hiram, who built the temple of Solomon, was from Tire, where Melqart was honored, in general the Phoenicians loved Melqart (aka Milku/Milcom/Ninanzu/Nergal, possibly Moloch)

In the Temple of Melqart there were two special columns, made of gold and silver, possibly the prototype of Boaz and Jachin, most likely the Temple of Solomon was built in the image of the Temple of Melqart
Anonymous (ID: qOpbojS/) Australia No.512951953 >>512956238
>>512950743
what are you saying?
a game of chess has rules but you can still make choices
If you had complete control over ecerything then you would just be god.

also youre saying that because we have no choice in our creation we have no responibility for our actions?
Anonymous (ID: qOpbojS/) Australia No.512952015 >>512958471
>>512950978
unless it was his will that you have free will
Anonymous (ID: BBs3Lf4O) No.512952077
>>512951873
>Tire
Tyre


>silver
emerald


fix
Anonymous (ID: qOpbojS/) Australia No.512952106 >>512958501
>>512951204
yeah but if you react to calamity with goodness then isnt everything okay in the end?
Anonymous (ID: EQYP544F) United States No.512952351
>>512932721 (OP)
>jewish
nope
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512953238 >>512953892
>>512949567
You cannot be separate from everything. That is the basic logic.
>>512949621
Only the Brahman or the creator. Its everything and nothing at same time. Nothing new can be created because nothing separate from it can exist.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512953465
>>512949976
I have mentally debated over it several times. But then the possibility of equally strong independent Gods becomes a possibility.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512953528
>>512950788
If you are separate from something you are independent of that thing. Which makes no sense if you consider only one entity created everything.
Anonymous (ID: 5YVDa+1v) India No.512953669 >>512960506
>>512949662
But you have to consider this all creating entity is independent of time as well. So it should practically played and executed infinite scenarios at the same time.
Anonymous (ID: 1GsyfPmf) United States No.512953673 >>512954080
>>512946255
>All the other gods are demons
Why would the top tier god make demons with God like abilities in the first place knowing full well the result? Your religion is is evil and just used to keep you in line and moron can see that
Anonymous (ID: qOpbojS/) Australia No.512953892
>>512953238
sleep exists

thats just god by another name then, or vice versa
Anonymous (ID: PGNa7gwK) United States No.512954040 >>512954326 >>512954348
>>512932721 (OP)
what would happen if someone melted down the bull on wall street? I think America would be saved but I can't be sure.
Anonymous (ID: qOpbojS/) Australia No.512954080
>>512953673
religion is hope that were not all trapped
but yes people do use it for that
Anonymous (ID: e1Z7ov9/) No.512954104
>>512932721 (OP)
The original version of the story probably didn't have all those curses.
Anonymous (ID: FthDsNd1) Germany No.512954235
>>512932721 (OP)
if judaism is real then why did their god stop doing anything real after christ?
Anonymous (ID: qOpbojS/) Australia No.512954326
>>512954040
worth a shot
use thermite
Anonymous (ID: ZBmj4TOf) Brazil No.512954348
>>512954040
Niggers would loot it and walk away freely
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512956238 >>512956867
>>512951953
>also youre saying that because we have no choice in our creation we have no responibility for our actions?

In totality yes, only god ultimately has responsibility. And yes, you would have to be omniscient and omnipotent under full control to even make decisions that you actually understood and could implement in their totality.

However on a gradient scale, you can adopt responsibility (it isnt actually yours) and act as though it is yours. But what I am saying is good man, bad man, poor man, rich man, motivated by this, motivated by that, this tall, that tall, this gender, that gender, born here, born there, this level of attractive, that level of attractive... all of these things are not your doing, they are given to you, you might have choice and make choices, but how you choose was the doing of something else and given to you...

Ultimately it is not yours, it is given, without this being implicitly true humanity or human behavior would not exist, nor would human motivation, you might as well think like a fish or think like a tree etc. Etc.

There is an order and there is a bound to personality and thought that comprise a self and you did not comprise this as if you were the compriser, you could actually comprise and just as being one man one day, be another within another day and not within strict limitations but freely.

You cant actually shift or unbound these factors by will in any meaningful sense, this indicates the self is not at the Beck and choice of the self, it is what is given...

To make choice is one thing, but to choose the chooser is another.

To hold people accountable for their actions for the sake of organization of a society is one thing.

Having an entity design men and hold them accountable rather than its self for what they are in another thing.

If camrys start exploding it's toyota's fault, not the individual camry's fault.
Anonymous (ID: gYBH7K3J) Canada No.512956867
>>512956238
>If camrys start exploding it's toyota's fault, not the individual camry's fault.

But to expand, if a camry is exploding for the safety of the public interacting with the camry model of car, there should be a recall and the camry should be revised and improved so it doesnt explode...

Giving the camry emotions and torturing it doesnt fix the problem, blaming the camry doesnt fix the problem either, if the only method you have of making these camry cars safe is separating them from the public (jail) because that's the only crude tool you have available because that is where you are in your development of information than that is what the beings in question have to work with... they can do what they can do.

But ultimately it's Toyota who made the camry and if it is faulty it's by design, even if the self drive and park can turn left or turn right... how it does that was up to the engineers, not the specific car that deviated... although each unit is either functional or not and surely this is measurable


Sorting men into you get abuse and you don't categories are the signs of an order created by an emotionless psychopathic maelevolence... it doesn't seem to actually serve a purpose beyond abuse for the sake of abuse if superior methods are available to correct design flaws
Anonymous (ID: cnYB20Ll) United States No.512958471
>>512952015
Thanks for proving my point further
Anonymous (ID: cnYB20Ll) United States No.512958501
>>512952106
Depends on the context
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512960506
>>512953669
Independence from time is correct, but I don't see where you got the infinite scenarios part from?

For a thousand years in Your sight
Are like yesterday when it passes by,
Or as a watch in the night.
— Psalm 90:4

Declaring the end from the beginning,
And from ancient times things which have not been done,
Saying, ‘My counsel will be established,
And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’,
— Isaiah 46:10

God has orchestrated things to maximise His glory, as His glory is the ONLY good and the ONLY thing that actually matters.

Whether, then, you eat or drink or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God.
— 1 Corinthians 10:31

He has mercy for His glory and He punishes for His glory.

And what if God, wanting to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath having been prepared for destruction, and in order that He might make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory— even us, whom He also called, not from among Jews only, but also from among Gentiles?
— Romans 9:22-24
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512960587
>>512951204
Yes, that is correct.

Yahweh has made everything for its own purpose,
Even the wicked for the day of evil.
— Proverbs 16:4

If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble?
If a calamity happens in a city has not Yahweh done it?
— Amos 3:6
Anonymous (ID: DNxPDrEG) United States No.512960712 >>512961417
>>512934041
The word "god" doesnt even exist in the OT.
God in hebrew is "elohim" which is a plural term meaning sky beings.
Why would a monotheistic god be jealous and not want people to worship "other" gods, in order for this to make sense there's needs to be other gods in the first place.
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512960957
>>512950788
Again. Free will does not exist.

And Yahweh said to Moses, “When you go to return to Egypt, see to it that all the miraculous wonders which I have put in your hand, that you do them before Pharaoh; but as for Me, I will harden his heart with strength so that he will not let the people go.
— Exodus 4:21

And not only this, but there was Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that the purpose of God according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” Just as it is written, “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”
— Romans 9:10-13
Anonymous (ID: DNxPDrEG) United States No.512960973 >>512961479
>>512934353
Time for aryans to retvrn to tradition and suck bloody baby dicks like our aryan god yahweh commanded.
The cult of yahweh is an entirely judean creation, at the time there were white people in europe that were pagans. White people have nothing to do with a tyrannical Semitic desert demon.
This is just your cope you guys invented in order to hold onto Christianity and white nationalism simultaneously
Anonymous (ID: 77kQZ4FM) United States No.512961030 >>512963603
>>512932792
so you also believe in the invisible poo daddy?
Anonymous (ID: ScvUnb3o) United States No.512961117 >>512961543
>>512932721 (OP)
Do people in the 21st century really still believe this fairytale shit happened? The universe is just cosmotheism and God has not contacted us directly. It made the fucking world for us and shows itself in the beauty of nature and love. But you only find the dark parts of its mind, your mind.
Anonymous (ID: DNxPDrEG) United States No.512961362
>>512948856
>eat my flesh and drink my blood
Christianity is just a rip off of the ancient cult of dionysus.

Similarities between Dionysus and Jesus:

Divine Son of a Mortal Mother:

Both Dionysus and Jesus are portrayed as sons of a divine being (Zeus/God) and a human woman (Semele/Mary).

Miraculous Birth:

Both figures have narratives surrounding their births that involve divine intervention and elements of the miraculous.

Turning Water into Wine:

Dionysus is associated with the ability to turn water into wine, and Jesus famously performs this miracle at the wedding in Cana.

Rejection by Authorities:

Both figures face opposition and rejection from established authorities in their respective narratives.

Followers and Disciples:

Both Jesus and Dionysus have devoted followers who believe in their divinity and teachings.

Trials and Suffering:

Both undergo trials and suffer;Dionysus is persecuted and imprisoned, while Jesus faces crucifixion.

Resurrection/Return:

While not identical, both figures experience a form of resurrection or return.Dionysus's return to Thebes in Euripides' The Bacchae and Jesus's resurrection are central to their narratives.

Sacred Meal:

Dionysus is associated with a sacred meal that involves dismemberment and consumption, a possible precursor to the Christian Eucharist.

Ambiguous Language and Evasiveness:

In The Bacchae, Dionysus speaks in riddles and evasively, similar to Jesus's use of parables and ambiguous language in the Gospels.
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512961417 >>512962710
>>512960712
"Elohim" has a plural ending "im", but in Hebrew plural forms can also be used as descriptive terms (e.g. "Deity" rather than "God").

The other gods in the Bible are demons.

They sacrificed to demons who were not God,
To gods whom they have not known,
New gods who came lately,
Whom your fathers did not dread.
— Deuteronomy 32:17
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512961479 >>512963236
>>512960973
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.
— Galatians 5:6
Anonymous (ID: EF6N3iKs) United Kingdom No.512961543
>>512961117
“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him. He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the judgment, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the Light, for their deeds were evil. For everyone who does evil hates the Light, and does not come to the Light lest his deeds be exposed. But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been done by God.”
— John 3:16-21
Anonymous (ID: DNxPDrEG) United States No.512962710 >>512963781
>>512961417
An all powerful god that's the creator of everything being jealous is hilariously idiotic.
The hebrew creation story is just a copied and distorted version of the older sumeranian myth, in the sumeranian version there are multiple annunaki with enlil the yahweh equivalent, in that version enlil wants to wipe out humanity with a flood while his brother enki is the one who tells the Noah figure to build and ark.

>all other gods are demons
Weird how pretty much every ancient culture of goyim across the planet had stories of multiple gods / elohim / annunaki for thousands of years, yet somehow only the jews millenia later managed to find the one real god, and that god just so happened to "choose" them...
The wise noble Greeks, with the richest culture and mythology, the pinnacle of human civilization and bedrock of Western culture were just worshipping evil demons.
The ancient Hebrew language has only around 8000 words while the ancient Greeks language is 250,000-500,000 but the greeks were just goyim pagan savages....
Tarrifs and usury (ID: OUmdlcxZ) No.512963029
>>512932721 (OP)
The cost of food is rising issnt it?
Anonymous (ID: DNxPDrEG) United States No.512963236
>>512961479
Why was jesus arrested at a park at 4 am with a naked little boy the day before he was crucified?
Mark 14:51
>And a certain young man followed with him, having a linen cloth cast about him, over his naked body : and they lay hold on him;
Anonymous (ID: k9cWvnG5) United States No.512963447
>>512934041
>I named my specific god God, so there are no other gods, and he is God!
Ah, jewish tricks.

Yahweh/God/El is unironically a pajeet deity. He is the new face of yahvah, agni, acceptor of burnt offerings and embodiment of fire (sound like biblical god? yes it is). Yahvah/agni is the ONLY pajeet deity not to have a native cult in india, because his brahmin left india to become the jews and when they took him with them he took on the names of vaguely similar native canaanite gods.

They may have actually been kicked out because one of agni's things was human sacrifice to destroy the false self and send the true self on to the gods. Perhaps, this evolved over time as people began sending their children to the jeet fire god early.

The real redpill of Christianity is realizing Jesus Christ is NOT the son of the OT "God". Jesus meant what he said, he IS the Son of God. But he wasn't talking about agni/yahvah. He was talking about the Real God, the one that created and is the universe. The "God" of the jews is in fact a rank below Actual God, something like an angel. A very bright one who has turned against his creator. Hence the jews are the synagogue of this spirit, not followers of God. I believe he could also be called

Satan.
Anonymous (ID: wt5Vyb/L) United States No.512963603
>>512934041
>>512934205
>>512945538
>>512946255
>>512961030
Do not reply to faggots pretending to be jeets
Anonymous (ID: k9cWvnG5) United States No.512963781 >>512964005
>>512962710
That "god" certainly chose them but he did so long after man was created (which, to us, is indistinguishable from man evolving, but to god, happened so quickly it was like sculpting clay - and this is how his emissary originally described it to us) and he was never a creator, only a destroyer. He has never created. He has never made life. He is a minor lord of death and he accepts the dead as offerings, burnt or not these days, but he prefers burnt.

He found in them the only people evil enough to truly love him.
Anonymous (ID: T+Cq8T99) United States No.512963964 >>512964576
>>512932721 (OP)
>Only picks half of Psalms
Anonymous (ID: DNxPDrEG) United States No.512964005
>>512963781
it literally says this god loves the smell of burnt flesh and these fucking morons have the nerve to call all the greek and roman gods demons
Anonymous (ID: 7n32a2Q4) Austria No.512964576
>>512963964
>you didn't quote my jew book correctly
Oh the humanity