Thread 512941593

Why didn't they just make up a story about terrorists planting explosives in the WTC towers instead of the whole plane crashing into the towers causing the jet fuel to weaken the steel beams which made the towers implode on themselves. The former would l have been more believable.

It looked like a comtrolled demolition anyways and they could just have pinned the blame on some high IQ Terrorists like they did with Timothy McVeigh

So did planes crash into the towers or not?

>>512941660
Remote controlled planes did

>>512941593 (OP)
>Why didn't they

jews are not 'they'

>>512941683
Meds

>>512941593 (OP)
Because Mossad terrorists did plant bombs in the towers.

>>512941593 (OP)
empty towers matter

>>512941660
Nah

>>512941593 (OP)
>Why didn't they just make up a story about terrorists planting explosives
because that's what actually happened and mossad only does war by deception.

>>512941724
But why did the feel the need to fly a plane into the towers instead of just making up a story about how terrorist's carefully planted explosives inside the towers for months?

>>512941593 (OP)
energy hoax reveled

>>512941593 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZgivA2ENvY

kek

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1754739781595385.mp4

>>512941593 (OP)
a lots of people didn't die and did not jump out of the windows

>>512941986
>>512941893
>>512941796
Holy shit kill yourself

>>512941683
>millions of people around
>no one caught footage of the planes
>no one actually saw the planes
>except some news outlets with shitty obv photoshopped footage
>same at Pentagon, sans the millions of people

>>512941593 (OP)
so where is "crude oil", they pump it from the sky, not from under ground.

>>512942036
You didn't expect truth show up?

no pol flag on pol = jew shill or glowing nigger

>>512941593 (OP)
>jet fuel to weaken the steel beams
jew shill swindle your minds

>>512941593 (OP)
jew rat deception energy hoax

>>512941593 (OP)
jews did it

>>512941593 (OP)
>>512941683
>Remote controlled planes did

jews lie

>>512941774
If you do a crime and make a cover story, should your cover story only change one detail, or many details, to throw investigators off the trail?

>>512941593 (OP)
I remember that right after 911 kerosene all of a sudden took on the properties of some fantastic new blast furnace heat producing fuel called JET FUEL. This JET FUEL was spoken about at every news broadcast because of its unique properties, it was gaslighting on a scale never before attempted, since kerosene had been used for generations and no one had ever noticed that it could melt steel beams.
The whole thing was a timed, staged event that incorporated the corporate media, planes were a huge part of the the theatrical performance.

>>512941593 (OP)
very dangerous work at the trade office

>>512942687
>This JET FUEL
Yes jews pump it from the sky, store in batteries.
In Manhattan there whole area that called the 'Battery'

>>512942687
Kerosene takes quite a while to burn off completely... then add in other fuel like paper, office shit, walls, electrical, etc and a huge amount of moving oxygen, you get one hell of a hot fire.

>>512941735
Electricity harvesting towers have no trade office, jew rats just label WTC implying trade office that never existed.

>>512942979
>then add in other fuel like paper,
stop swindle peoples minds kike

>>512942979
>you get one hell of a hot fire
chill kike

>>512943308
Lmao another 9/11 truther. Hey buddy tell me again how it was a controlled demolition

>>512942979
This magic fucking jet fuel that caused a huge fireball in the air outside the building also burned for long enough and hot enough with other well known flammable objects that are well known to burn at less than significant temperatures to bring down two completely different buildings, with two completely separate fires and impact/explosion damage in exactly the same way, exactly the same. Yeah nah, for you to even type the shit you did you labeled yourself as an enemy of mankind and can go fuck yourself.

>>512943308
Take your meds lilbro. Why are you having an autistic melty in this thread

>>512943378
>how it was a controlled demolition
something like this...?

>>512943414
so you saying... basically nothing to say, right?

>>512941593 (OP)
>The former would l have been more believable.
Because planes are scarier and more terror and its overall a more spectacular and memorable attack

>>512943390
>This magic fucking jet fuel
where?

>>512943390
I work with structural steel everyday, you'd be surprised how little heat you need for a 3inch thick beam under emense load could buckle like a wet noodle.

>>512941593 (OP)
That's easy, it's because it wasn't an inside job.

>>512941593 (OP)
Because you can make more money shorting airlines companies

>>512943906
>I work with structural steel everyday, you'd be surprised how little heat you need for a 3inch thick beam under emense load could buckle like a wet noodle.

kek , so why you not working today? Get a desk job shilling?

why was kennedy shot by mossad in public instead of poisoned in private?

why did they fake the the moon landing tv footage?

why do the govt glowies import most of the drugs into the USA

>this list is somewhat endless

>>512943920
>it wasn't an inside job.
>>512944135
>make more money shorting airlines companies


How you see it is a rational? kek kikes get desperate

No pol flag on pol - why bother if you are a shill?

>>512941593 (OP)
I guess the point was making it a big spectacle and show off these crappy special effects in the news. they also seem to think its funny when people get tricked by a stupid nonsensical story.

youtube.com/watch?v=bZnriZ-aXig
starting from 9:33 until 2WTC collapse, large amounts of molten iron spewing from the impeding implosion zone caught on camera. For the NPCs in the comments and on reddit, explaining it away as molten aluminium from fixtures or UPS battery material (???) is enough. Of course that makes 0 sense considering the quantity of molten metal that reached all the way to the edge and its color indicating it's well over 1000°C. Thermite was used to bring down those buildings, the planes did nothing to the central columns.

>>512943813
also it seems goyims are more likely to believe a story to be true if it involves planes crashing.

9/11 was an insurance job

>>512944140
It's called multi tasking and fucking the dog... we aren't that busy right now.

>>512941593 (OP)
for the cameras
the fireman documentary was not there by accident, pointing its camera to the tower
everyone saw it on tv
you would not get that effect with a bomb
and you need the tv, that was the most important part

>>512944524
I'd go a step further and say the Twin Towers were actually never functional skyscrapers to begin with.
they were mostly empty props and only the lobby and the skydeck were accessible to the public, all the offices only existed on paper and were rented by glownigger organizations or government agencies.

>>512941708
The patent for remote piloting of airliners predates 9/11. Stop taking whatever meds they’re giving you cuz it’s making you retarded.

>>512944683
CGI is cheaper

>>512944524
>the planes did nothing
it even wasn't there

>>512941593 (OP)
Apparently a big part of the towers was empty.

oh great, a whole generation of spics that want to larp as white and think sounding like zogbots will make them white against the chink truthers, same weird autism with the subhumans how theyre white over a chink hapa but still wont join the army and stay in the military for 30 years like his dad

since spics know so much about new york especially the wtc as those "black" stem degree majors

>>512944834
>Apparently a big part of the towers was empty.

All sky scrapers are empty up there for a simple practical reasons.

So why it was build so high? To harvest electricity

>>512944759
guess what this is....

>>512944665
Yeahh my head is still above the rabbithole, for now at least. Were the jumpers also all CGI then? Abother thing that bugs me is the omnipotent all-knowing all-seeing hijackers choosing to strike the towers before 9AM when the entire WTC complex operated 9-5.

>>512941593 (OP)
https://youtu.be/PeNkuM45L7s

Free energy !

>>512942058
>no one caught footage of the planes
>t. zoomer that can't envision a world existing without their precious goyphones
There's footage from a tourist at South Ferry. Also, I was there. There were planes. Could they have been remote-piloted drones? I guess, but they existed.
I had a Motorola phone with a flip-down button pad cover. Back then people used to mock you if your phone was too large. They didn't have built-in cameras. At the time I also had a 1.3MP camera the size of a PS5 controller that was cutting edge. Not carrying that around all the time. Get off my lawn, whippersnappers.

>>512941593 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHp5OMwght8

The guy flooding has a polish flag in reality and he does the Jews dirty work by sliding these threads

>>512941593 (OP)
>>512941735
The twin towers looked so fucking cool. What a shame

>>512944665
The only conspiracy theory angle I *could* accept is that the towers were allowed to be hit because of how useless they became.
They were built at a time when the Willis tower was to be filled top to bottom with sears staff and employees, and they actually filled the whole thing.
The towers were built for maximum office space, but by the late 90s office space especially in Manhattan wasn't really needed that badly. So what were they gonna with it all that space?

https://archive.org/embed/9-11-no-floors-roof-jumpers-were-inflatable-dummies-video

Express elevators do not exist, with one exemption for WTC so you have to believe ...kek

https://youtu.be/y6XpCpbOYD8

energy hoax

>>512942058
The whole thing was orchestrated to sell more Adobe Photoshop® license keys.

>>512941593 (OP)
Imagine being one of the wagies in those tower offices and seeing that plane coming towards you

>>512944524

That wasn't molten iron. As you tried to pre-empt, what it was was all sorts of plastic shit and pot metal cheap crap like the drawer pulls on desks. It would drip down and accumulate and pool together until it found an outlet.
The buildings were not a block o steel irder cubes like we see in the buildings of the 1920s and 30s. They were glass boxes with a device of an inner supporting tube.
It was a tech that had never been tried before, and will probably not be tried again. They may not have been 100% built to spec anyway.

>>512941660
depends on the story you want to believe.

>>512946766
DID THEY USE PROPRIETARY SOFTWARE??? WE WANT TO KNOW IF THEY USED ADOBE PHOTOSHOP

>>512941708
should kept scrolling to see you are a probably related to one of the terrorists responsible for 9/11

>>512944620
coca colas main ingredient is phosphoric acid. lucifer is phosphoros in greek.

>>512941593 (OP)
Because the the Jets were remotely piloted and it was east to do. All Jets ha e a remotely override function since the early 1990s. It was to prevent 1980s hijacking

>>512947141
Photoshop is proprietary software developed by Adobe

>>512945034
evidence of jewish terrorism. it's a shame Bush immediately sent everything to china to immediately be melted down for the good of America.

>>512947251
This so much!! It was easily adobe ® photoshoped

>>512941593 (OP)
Because inquiries would have been made on how explosives were planted secretly in the buildings. That would have pointed places they didn’t want examined, that being jews.

This was the moment I knew it was all just a racket.
No plane hit anything.

>>512947356
Was Adobe Photoshop used in the production of this photo? It could easily be Adobe Phoyoshopped

>>512947586
Why would they Adobe Photoshop this?

>>512942979
Not when it’s aerosolized into a giant fireball doing 700kph. It all burnt up instantly.

AE911Truth.org

I signed up as a professional engineer and have given speeches to engineering societies at conferences about it. It blows minds of normal rational engineers that these were 3 controlled demolitions that day.. clearly.

>>512947356
This will piss the shill off. You are only supposed to post retard tier conspiracy shit.

>>512941593 (OP)

Because narcissistic sociopaths use grand illustration and narrative. The hijacked planes was visceral, and allowed them to create a whole new department they could use to traffick whatever they wanted in and out of the country. That is what the clintons used the dhs for, private couriers.

Also they couldnt have people investigating the israeli art students who planted the thermite.

>>512947679
Adobe Photoshop enthusiasts > professional engineer

>>512946766
It’s molten iron. You can take your jewish shilling elsewhere. You will never dance again.

>>512947586
That just looks like debris that’s kind of jet shaped.

>>512941593 (OP)
tarkin doctrine
rule through fear
while planted explosives may be more plausible, they decided a plane was scarier and a more dramatic visual

As I said, it’s all just a racket.
Physics determines that this is impossible.

>>512947251
kek ... are you making parody of jewish explanations?

they pay you per how much you write and not by how much does it makes sense, right?

>>512941683
why would they use remote controlled planes when they can just use a real plane full of real people. unless you mean they remote controlled a real plane into the towers and blamed it on alleged terrorists.

remember the passports of the terrorists. ever single passport of the terrorists just so happened to be found in the wreckage. the passports didnt burn up when the entire plane vaporized somehow. if it was a movie people would have given it a bad review for being absurd.

>>512947901
I'm not sure but that could be Adobe Photoshopped™

>>512947906
Adobe, the developer for Adobe Photoshop, should release the names of everyone who purchased an Adobe Photoshop license key

>>512947646
Why indeed.
Think about a car crash with a solid object.

>>512948142
How was Adobe and their proprietary software, Photoshop, involved? It's almost certain the Adobe Photoshoppers use other proprietary software such as Windows and Apple Macintosh OS

>>512948165
you can tell from the pixels

>>512942687
to play devils advocate for a moment. the narrative was that as the sky lobbies collapsed, huge wide open floors in the building, it pushed oxygen into the fires much like a blacksmiths bellows. charcoal can`t melt iron and yet with a bellows it can. that`s the narrative, and it sounds plausible to me. i still believe it was a controlled demolition but the jet fuel cant melt steel beams thing isnt convincing enough on its own.

>>512948142
>ever single passport

I remember it as just 1 passport, and it seems the terrorists WANTED to be identified as Muslim radicals, to take credit for the strike against The Great Satan.

>>512948142
Use a real plane with real people and even real terrorists but remote control it because terrorists aren’t very reliable.

Jews in the kitchen
is part of tradition.
Some money is missing,
that is part of the mission

>>512947594
>photoshopped.
ALL jews, including you anon, are terrorists

>>512948371
Except there were firefighters up there fighting it reporting they were getting it under control. It wasn’t that hot.

>>512941593 (OP)
because they already planted bombs during lavon affair ss patria or capitol bombing
also during previous wtc attacks
but truck full of explosives in the basement parking turned out not enough and planting all the columns with explosives required clearance to work in both towers so it was too obvious

>>512948165
Maybe, but I watched this event live when the helicopter was filming and at the moment of the “so called” impact and in No Way does a nose cone remain a “cone” when striking a, well anything.

>>512948438
>>512947763
pic did not post for some reason
2nd attempt to show this terrorist the book those photo shopped art students wrote about their experience.

>>512948348
I bet the Adobe Photoshopers were familiar with the software. Repeat buyers. Adobe could refine their search excluding any new customers and can find the Adobe Photoshop bandits.

Spectacle. Look into the story of flight 93 *closely* and you'll start to notice the discrepancies. They used 93 to create a sense of patriotism within the american people that they could later exploit to have the masses agree to the middle east wars

>>512948597
Yeah that plane was probably shot down.

>>512941593 (OP)
Imagine being this retarded. Low Brow Nordic Genes hard at work

>>512941683
Imagine having the job of flying remote control jumbo jets into fuckin skyscrapers
I can’t even blame the kike glowies for that, that sounds sick

>>512946766
>PLASTIC
>potmetal
zip it, rabbi

>>512948726
Before 9/11 I drilled a Concorde into one of them in FS2000.

>>512948386
ok you`re right my bad. only 1 was found at the world trade center. 2 were found in the pennsylvania crash, 1 was found in luggage that never made the connecting flight.

>>512948786
It’s kind of The Male Fantasy when you think about it

>>512948812
Wait what they tried to say they found a fucking passport when they didn’t find the black boxes?

>>512948371
Picture illustrate fantasy
photography - from Greek photos - light and graph - drawing

So you sow on a photography, that there was no floors at all ... and why you bubble nonsense?

>>512948755
Plastic = plant starch + citric acid

Plastic made from plants, differ: it actually exist .
'crude oil' in other hand have no evidence of existence

https://youtu.be/jwc-n3W9rNY

>>512948442
ok, and i hate to continue playing devils advocate here because i believe it was an inside job but...

jet fuel burns between 980 and 1500F in open air
steel beams melt at 2750 F
BUT steel begins to deform at 1100F
steel deforming under load can collapse
so it was looking fine, not too hot, but the beams were already deformed. floor sagging, columns buckling, collapse.

>>512948922
>>512949258

you`re a well poisoning shill spamming nonsense

>>512941593 (OP)
because it actually happened you dumb fucking schizo

>>512950596
>>512951177

>>512941593 (OP)
Because then everyone freaks out thinking their building is next and empties out of the city

>>512949420

>you`re a well poisoning shill spamming nonsense

Oh, that is very constructive argument... kek

>>512941593 (OP)
They tried it in 1999. Loaded a van w explosives (EXACTLY like Fight Club). However, it only caused minor damage to the pillar it was parked next to

>>512949299
>ok, and i hate to continue playing devils advocate here
You playing jew rat advocate
>because i believe
believe - be lie with

>>512942570
That was a missle

>>512951642
Denounce the talmud and declare TKD.

>>512951623
According to jew shills in this thread, It was not enough jet fuel, kerosene and paper to create heat, that melts iron like a butter all the way from the bottom .... kek

>>512951351
everyone can see it you dumb kike
most just ignore you

>>512951857
>That was a missle

But jews that are chosen by God from the book they wrote, told us it was airplane. kek

there is magical word (( Science )) after mentioning you have to believe everything that comes next.

>>512951948
Mooooods anon just have braked rules !

You can not talk about Talmud club

>>512949299
burning on outside. load bearing big column inside. other sky rocks have big fire, but no fall. grug think leaf from bignose tribe.

>>512952068
>everyone can see it you dumb kike
so messenger is a dumb
>most just ignore you
please ignore message about free energy, electricity that we use

Is that you trying to achieve?

Free Energy Busted ...it is so painful for jews, isn't?
https://youtu.be/HXovMJ5Befg

>>512941774
then they would have to explain Marvin Bush

>>512942979
>you get one hell of a hot fire
we all saw the oxygen starved meme fires that were in no way sufficient to cause a serious change in the tensile strength of the steel

>>512953281
you are just clowning with your flat earth and no floors retardation trying to distract people from actuall issues kike

>>512943378
>hey buddy please explain physics to me, I'm retarded and dont understand it at all

>>512943906
>under emense load
you do no such things you fucking ESL pajeet

https://youtu.be/jwDQ1-J5drc

mystery of Tesla Free Energy

>>512944613
the laws of stoichiometry prove that there's no way the columns absorbed enough BTUs of heat to cause tensile weakening
if you think that shit's gonna do that in a matter of an hour or two you're an extra special retard

>>512944665
>I'd go a step further and say the Twin Towers were actually never functional skyscrapers to begin with
this is just about as fake, gay and retarded as jet fuel taking down the towers

>>512945034
Lol.
Like they can't scatter a few bent up airplane parts around sites (like the Pentagon, and the bullshit field where the airplane completely disappeared into the earth where a fissure had already been for decades)
Or scatter things around like paper passports that survive going through the WTC towers, the intense fireball, etc.
You're retarded if you don't think cops can sprinkle some crack, or throw a DropGun, to create the scene they want...

>>512941593 (OP)
also it wasnt just the twin towers
there were planes in Washington, in the Pentagon and another crashed into a field
the whole thing was spectacular
that we never get the truth what was behind it, is a shame

>>512953621
Earth is not flat. Water around continents is.

>actual issues
what is it?

can I tell about free energy, if I don't tell that balls in imaginary space produced in Hollywood basement?

If people knew that earth is flat will be easy for them to finger out own electricity with out jew rat grid.

So why don't you like about electricity towers with out floors? It is in a photo you can't deny it .

>>512949299
learn stoichiometry you faggot
how many moles of jet fuel made how many BTUs of heat energy and how many could be transferred from the fraction that remained giving us low oxygen black smoke out of it
and that aside,
anyone who works with metal knows god damned well that it retains the heat for a really long time
these people touching bare metal disprove the jet fuel conjecture

>>512954305
>can I tell about free energy,
you cant since you dont have blueprints or anything you are just bullshiting people to distract them kike
>Earth is not flat.
>If people knew that earth is flat will be easy for them to finger out own electricity with out jew rat grid.
fucking kike clown retard

>>512954275
>there were planes
No it wasn't , no one sow it or took a picture ...
But jews show on TV computer generated images (CGI) with attempt to convince masses of people that ... goat lovers just flu over my house ...kek

Jewish mass media lie to humans

>>512954305
Its right there.

What if jet fuel does actually melt steel beams because the beams were made poorly and it was never mentioned to protect us steel interests

>>512954305
>what is it?
all the jewish antihuman activity
organized crime
terrorism
genocides
mass migration
covid vax
etc

>>512945603
>no plain wreckage
They were holograms

>>512954523
>you cant since you dont have blueprints or anything
That is correct, but I have powered my own house.

Tips for experiment: just hang cable in the air and per night I collect 9v in capacitors and that is just 1,5 meter from the ground project

>>Earth is not flat.
water around continents is

same power that moves compass pointer north ...
Directly under sun 32 miles wide circle cast no shadows from vertical stick and sun is 3300 miles above surface of water (measure able) Sun moves for free and rise tides which is max at noon when sun is closest above salt water. Salt water are conductive to electricity...

Well I guess I have to draw blue print to share. Would you be interested?

>>512941593 (OP)
Fear is good for business

>>512947897
>Tarkin Doctrine
That sums it up eloquently enough

>>512941593 (OP)
Because if people didn't see it happen in all it's horrifying glory, then bush wouldn't get full support to invade Iraq, which was what the Jews wanted.

>>512941593 (OP)
Why did Saudi Arabia attack New York city and the Pentagon?
Is it Islam?
Answer: Yes
Is Islam your friend?
Answer: No

>>512944834
>Apparently a big part of the towers was empty.
i remember the day of they were expecting 20k+ casualties based on the capacity ("50k people work in the trade towers"). it was amazing that it was only a 2-3k. literally no one showed up to work that day, or no one worked there in the first place.

>>512954649
>nevermind all the engine parts that were found, they were pre melted and placed there

>>512954954
All forms of life has predators and parasites, humanity have got jews. Jew rats live in a host nations

>>512950596
>schizo
>medposting
Eat shit and neck yourself, faggot

>>512941593 (OP)
because then the security company might attract attention? wouldn't want that would we

>>512955841
lmao if you cant show/explain mechanism you are using you are still just a clown jew
>>512955841
and then you post dumb picture like that to discredit anyone accusing jews on anything you jewish clown

>>512955832
Jews also found Saudi Arabian passport and it was totally undamaged .
>>>512955854
jews told us in the west that Russia is bad...
So can you fix invitation or something ...I want to move in Russia to live.

What ever jews say , truth is 180 degree opposite
We should make engines from paper, much safer that way ... kek

>>512941593 (OP)
To add to the chaos of the event in an effort to make it as confusing as humanly possible, MK?

>>512955683
But what was the actual motive for 15 Saudis to do suicide terrorism? Not giving enough support to Iraqi rebels a decade prior? Lmao
>>512955701
flight 11 struck at 8:46 AM, basically everybody there worked 9-5. The question is how did anyone remain in their cubicle after a 767 smashed into a skyscraper several hundred feet from you. I guess most wagies just lose any self-preservation instincts, better listen to the port authority...

>>512956149
Yes I can, just not now and not here. normal people know how to share things anon way.

Oh, you don't ? meaning you don't belong to rational part of society. just barking like a jew shill dog. Yes pol is 90% jew shills I am aware about it . What is your point?

can you put together rational anything?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZgivA2ENvY

kek

https://i.4cdn.org/gif/1754739781595385.mp4

To make the thing as convoluted AND FUCKED UP AS POSSIBLE ON PURPOSE ASSHOLE. ALL ACCORDING TO SCRIPT.
For fucks sakes

>>512955841
Uhh, there is clearly a bright flash being used, so any shadows would be behind the lizradpeople and not visible to the camera which is where the flash is...
Dumb "proof".

4 “terrorist” passports survived the plane crashes lmao

>>512941660
>So did planes crash into the towers or not?

They did, but so what?

>>512956849
>Uhh, there is clearly a bright flash being used,
No, it is CGI... kek

>>512941593 (OP)
Remember all the new restrictions for getting on planes after that? That's why. What a hard sell that would have been without the planes hitting the towers.

>>512956852
It is a lie . there was no planes

>>512941660
Theres too much evidence that they did. People who bring up the "actually the planes were fake" argument seem like detractors who try to make the whole 9/11 question look stupid. Not to say the planes are what brought it down though.

>>512956820
>To make the thing as convoluted AND FUCKED UP AS POSSIBLE ON PURPOSE
they did this with all the covid data too

>>512957040
>Remember all the new restrictions for getting on planes after that?
I spread my legs and say: take it slow baby...

there was no planes at all, jews lie about it

>>512945034
Anyone have the photos of the streets near. There is one. Dead body but there was a massive stainless steel pressure tank. Was on a streetcorner by a paper box or some shit. Then theres that bkx truck.

>>512941660
Hollywood and cultural industries don't want you to believe, they can't compare to its breathtaking performance art

>>512956724

When the workers that were there tried to leave the buildings security guards turned them back and told them to stay inside

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/16/september11.usa3

>>512941593 (OP)
They wanted everyone to watch it fall live on air

>>512941593 (OP)
Because the jews wanted to make some shekels by shorting the airline stocks

>>512941683
kek

>>512957574
source jewish mass media ? you have to be kidding ...

OK I believe anything 'ww.theguardian.co' say with out doubt... can a slash water now?

jew shills are amazing to day

>>512953216
they say the impact knocked away the fire retarding materials on the outside of the support beams leading the beams to heat enough to deform and then collapse under the weight. most other building dont get the impact from a jetliner to knock away the fire retardant materials.

anyways there are plenty of other bits of evidence to suggest a controlled demolition. and even if it was the planes it was clearly done on purpose to create a false flag attack to justify a decades long misadventure in the middle east to prop up the military industrial complex.

all the jews who didnt show up to work that day, the gold evacuated from the building just before.

>>512957574
I have seen this info before, but it was more along the line of an official recommendation to stay put. If hundreds started to swarm the lobby no security could stop them

>>512941660
no, it was a case of mass hysteria and swamp gas
the government just rolled with it

>>512954305
water isn`t flat, its level, there`s a difference. level is perpendicular to the earths surface. but you already knew that well poisoner shill that you are

>>512957651
>shorting the airline stocks
kek ... is that peak of your rationalization?

planes don't use jet fuel (have no room for storage on board) , they go on compressed air and on a same pitch like a bumble bees.

>>512941593 (OP)
It was a controlled demo by NYPD after the planes caused the fires. The authorities didn't want the towers falling haphazardly into undamaged buildings, simple as.

>>512941593 (OP)
Because jewish people are not very smart. I swear this board has a self esteem problem. Smart people do not join international criminal cartels. They are very stupid and that is why they get kicked out of every country they ever go to. They are the world's biggest morons, they have a low fertility rate, and they keep their numbers up solely because all of the world's criminals are constantly converting to Judaism, which bolsters their numbers.

>>512958069
there is no curvature and there is 1 bitcoin reword for any one who will find curvature.

So take a spirit level and go check out if water is level .... kek

>>512957195
The original "no planer" was an elderly woman, who went by the "Web Dairy", and hosted guides on how to eat kosher. And the first full-length documentary to advocate that position was "9/11 Octopus", which blamed 9/11 on a "fascist octopus" out to "destroy Israel".

It's always been jewish disinformation.

>>512958152
>s a controlled demo by NYPD after the planes caused the fires
there was no planes , no one sow it or took a picture of it . CGI on TV does not count.

>>512954410
yeah thats a good argument. its not like there was even enough jet fuel to transfer enough heat. ok. im not trying to disprove it im trying to arrive at the truth buddy, its a process. i dont just pick a side then refuse to consider anything the other side is saying. you successfully debated the other sides arguments, which i presented, thats good. but theres no need to be insulting about it.

>>512958317
where do i go to collect the reward?

https://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html

911picsyouneversawbefore.myfreesites.net

>>512957030
And the original image the AI used, had a flash used.
Look at the shine on the pillars and other reflective objects. Clearly a bright flash was used to take the original picture, and whatever AI spinoffs came later.
Point stands

>>512941660
Yes, there's too many consistent eye witnesses reports, news recordings, and amateur recordings of the event for it to have been faked. Planes did hit the two towers.

However the plane alone wouldn't have taken the building down in a freefall directly into its own footprint like a planned demolition. The plane served as a nice distraction to keep people from noticing how accurately the building collapsed in on itself. (instead of collapsing to the side that was weakened by the impact like it should have)

Also, there's the whole building 7 also collapsing in on itself without getting hit by a plane or debris thing.

>>512958588
You can create "sun goes down" with a coin on the flat table ... we did it as a kids

planes has no fuel storage on board

My house run on free energy which is possible only on the real flat surface of water around continents. <-- that is real horizontal world by eyes

So it is observe able flat, mensurable flat 2 types of measurement tools you can use... and in military there is no balls in imaginary space. and there is Hollywood studio where "space" is filmed and shown on mass media (jews) .

>>512958913
You argue about how I made that picture? OK I guess your self esteem is above rationality

>>512941660
>>512941683
LOL... much to learn.

>>512946101
There definitely was an insurance angle to the whole thing
>the owner just to happened to be late that day
>the owner just so happened to recently change the insurance policy involving terrorist attacks
>the buildings were already becoming obsolete
>the buildings were old enough they would have started needing more and more maintenance

>>512958499
No, I am correct and what I say is truthful. You are attempting to distract from the correct answer to the op's question.

>>512944759
Thank you.

>>512959023
coin on the table has been debunked

the plane does carry fuel because its not flying on magic. but not enough fuel to transfer enough heat to deform enough beams to cause collapse as i consneeded here >>512958524

i can see the balls in space with my own telescope.

also you`re just pretending to be retarded as part of your well poisoning psyop but you went full retard and its not even plausible anyone is as dumb as you`re pretending to be

>>512956806
keep larping you jewish clown

>>512941593 (OP)
Nah..planes were intentionally rammed into the WTC towers & pentagon..causing massive destruction and death.

>>512941593 (OP)
The towers imploded because there was a single support column going through the buildings and the impact of a ~800,000lb 747 shattered it in both cases.

>>512959682
there were 47 core columns, and 236 perimeter columns

>512959023
flat earth faggot shills should go do a flip

>>512951177
Now post the "perhaps americans need another 911" pic.
They know very well. The whole nation does.
Except they control the herd.

>>512957952
I've seen videos of the main lobby of teh WTC after the first plane hit and there was no mob scene of people pushing past the guards at the doors. There were some reasons for stopping them like debris falling from teh building.

It always baffles me how theres so many retards on this board who will shill the official story, its so obvious that these degenerates are either bots, shills or braindead redditors, in case its the latter how braindead do you have to be to come on 4pol and try this? Why dont these mentally ill degenerates stay on reddit where they can get their upboats and goon to their tranny porn? Either way im all for granting their wish to go to the ukrainian frontlines to fight against evil putler(and get assraped by a gang of ziggers with a broom because god forbid they would actually enjoy the real zigger cock) Go be a degenerate tranny cock sucking retard in ukraine instead I guess?


Like whats the point in coming to 4pol? All youre doing is causing more unrelated trannies to get their heads stomped on in real life because i will think they are one of those mentally ill retard faggots posting here and they might very well be! Really i feel nothing when i see snot and blood mixed on trannies face, i cant even see that degenerate face anymore its just a bloody mess and i feel literally nothing. Thats all their actually accomplishing...
Yeah im from rotterdam and yeah theres a shot ton of mentally ill trannies here who think they are safe at night when they really arent, this place is a shithole and nobody cares about someone getting their teeth kicked out because it happens so often.

>>512954954
That island underwater volcano that blew up. There is evidence of a missile. Was a weapons test. What they plan for us and others. It will be hazlenut for everyone.

>>512960747
this one?

>>512941593 (OP)
Because the more absurd the lie the more effective the loyalty test

>>512941593 (OP)
>implode
it was more of an explode as the facade sheered off and material was well outside of the "footprint" with 50+ bldngs damaged in the collapses...that doesnt happen with CDs

>>512958926
>However the plane alone wouldn't have taken the building down in a freefall directly into its own footprint like a planned demolition.

>The buildings withstood the plane impacts
>it wasnt "freefall"
>it wasnt "directly into its own footprint"

The collapsed started right at the point of impact which is not consisent with a CD. The building fell down not over but no where into its own footprint with 50+ other bldngs damaged

How did the planted demo charges survive the plane impacts and resulting fires?

>>512958152
>didn't want the towers falling haphazardly into undamaged buildings
but they did.
>no one sow it or took a picture of it
explain this then
https://youtu.be/miA8Td4oNcY?si=p5H5MgUvkgZmZvE6&t=49

>>512963394
>but they did.
>and I still dont understand what's wrong with asymmetric damage to a steel high rise producing a very high degree of symmetry during the collapse
if those collapses were as advertised, there would have been toppling
period end of story
only the physics retarded cannot comprehend this

>>512961502
I for 4 1 like the cawk tawk, am not gay but appreciate it's addition to the finely written boulliabaisè.
I like the cut of yer jib.
Btw my jib is not, everyone!!!!!!

>>512961656
Nah. It was put out as a tweet from an israeli. Is in wide circulation. No worries.
It and plenty more where it comes from. Wink wink

>>512963740
Centre core and all the elevator business/((upgrades)) answers alot tew.
Hell everything does

>>512941683
hahahahhahaha

>>512941593 (OP)
Isn't it funny they got a full insurance payout and didn't have to pay double the cost of construction to remove the asbestos?

>>512941686
This nigger doesn't know what express elevators are.

>>512959406
Also all the market shenanigans exactly prior and after.

>>512941593 (OP)
>>512941660
>>512941686
>>512941735
Watch September clues:
https://odysee.com/SeptemberClues:d

for those itt who are unaware - There were no planes on 911 also no jumpers and nobody died from the tower collapses either. The entire thing was staged. check out Brian S. Staveley’s 9-11 stacks on Rokfin and and also here:

https://odysee.com/@briansstaveley:5/911-20th:3

You know nothing about how deep the 911 rabbit hole goes until you’ve seen Brian Staveley’s stuff.

>>512941593 (OP)
>>512941660
>>512941686
>>512941735
>>512965179
Those of you itt who don’t understand just how easy it is for corrupt governments and powerful institutions/entities to propagandize entire societies should watch this immediately:
>Meet Edward Bernays, Master of Propaganda:
https://www.corbettreport.com/meet-edward-bernays-master-of-propaganda/

…And thats just the tip of the ice(((berg))). If you approach the rabbithole with a mentality of genuine interest in learning the truth about this reality and your place in it, (you) will inevitably arrive at the topic of flat earth.

Protip: every single answer to literally any and all flat earth related questions you may have can be found in this pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh

You can also use the 4plebs search function to find FE posts made in the past
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/Flat%20earth/

for those itt who are unaware:
space is fake and gay, the magical spinning cartoon ball earth is fake and gay. we literally live in God's snow globe and every decision (you) make has immense meaning and significance. change your ways and start living correctly. dont fall for the nihilism meme and dont fall for any of the religion memes. you can look at life as either a test or a game but whatever you do, dont look at it as meaningless. BE A GOOD PERSON AND LIVE BY THE GOLDEN RULE ALWAYS! also stop jerking off you pathetic littel squirtboys; your life will drastically improve when abstaining from degeneracy.

>>512941593 (OP)
>>512941660
>>512941686
>>512941735
>>512965179
The world is owned and controlled by a small handful of literal satanists, eugenicists and psychopaths. They want to bring suffering, misery and death upon humanity. Above all else they want your soul. They will do anything and everything in their power to convince (you) to become materialistic and nihilistic so that you become easy to control and manipulate (thats the primary objective of the heliocentric model). If youre convinced there is no metaphysical nature to reality, it is easier for them to convince you to sin and commit atrocities for them. For lurkers itt who are unaware of this fact and new to learning about how this world actually works start here:

THE ELITE, ROYAL BLOODLINES, BILL GATES & THE EUGENICS IDEOLOGY:
https://www.corbettreport.com/bigoil
https://www.corbettreport.com/who-is-bill-gates-full-documentary-2020/

THE FEDERAL RESERVE:
https://corbettreport.com/federalreserve

CONSPIRACIES RESOURCES:
https://www.corbettreport.com/bestof/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/70qvx7/updated_list_of_proven_conspiracies_and_hidden/
https://unlimitedhangout.com
https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com
https://www.crrow777radio.com
https://www.podomatic.com/podcasts/tkelly6785757

SHADOWBANNED FLAT EARTH VIDS/RESOURCES:
https://pastebin.com/jk2hAdmh

NukeHOAX:
https://vimeo.com/331671526

Germs/viruses:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/joZF7GsUmbfd/

HIV/AIDS:
https://youtu.be/8BXxXcIYY_Q

CovidHOAX:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/448646795/#448671181

EVOLUTION:
https://youtu.be/rXexaVsvhCM
https://youtu.be/DtCIp9sgiE0
https://youtu.be/xDvKD_z3OeQ
https://youtu.be/vdSjyvIHVLw
https://youtu.be/cCk-b9GaY5k

SANDY HOOK:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/iazwAxgBtexC/

Looking to perform your own tests/experiments to confirm or falsify the mainstream claims? (you) can start here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435656
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

>>512942058
>>no one caught footage of the planes
>>no one actually saw the planes
Tons of people did, but you just come up with excuses for it every single time. There is no piece of footage, no possible witness statement that would convince you about this.
9/11 was an inside job btw. The no planes theory is still retarded.

>>512941593 (OP)
So they could put travel restrictions in place

>>512958317
>Muh water is always level!!! It could never conform to a round shape

>>512962915
>>512963242
controlled demolitions are usually planned and designed to reduce and prevent damage to surrounding buildings for obvious reasons. this one was designed to increase damages. it`s faulty comparison to point to legitimate demolitions for the purpose of cleanly removing an empty building to an inside job false flag demolition on an occupied building designed to spread fear

>>512965179
crisis actor?

>>512965179
why would they stage it with actors when they can kill real people instead. they want to kill people
>>512965295
ah yes and here comes the flat earth well poisoning. with the usual copy-paste shill script

>>512965736
>muh surface tension
There’s no meniscus causing oceans and lakes to bend into a sphere. You mitwits kno jackshit about physics.

>>512959561
Educate yourself:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40294514/#40342165

>>512965858
>WTC1&2 exploded
>WTC imploded into a neat pile
can you have it both ways?

>>512965858
>it`s faulty comparison to point to legitimate demolitions
But thats what troofers have been doing ever since it happened lol

Since the collapse of 1&2 started right at the spot of impact...how did the demo charges survive the plane impacts and fires?

>>512965179
>>512965295
>>512965380
>>512966212
this is another jew who forgot himself once
pic very rel

>>512965179
>>512965295
>>512966212
here is poorfag version of his pasta he temporarily posted after getting caught

>>512958926
>here's too many consistent eye witnesses reports, news recordings, and amateur recordings of the event for it to have been faked.
Except there isn't, and the footage available is fake as fuck. Also media interviewd their paid actors and dissident voices were ignored and silenced. Not sure if shaboo goy or just stupid

>>512965179
>>512965295
>>512965380
>>512966212
and here is when he changed the filename format

>>512966212
as you know nobody is saying surface tension is the reason water is level. level as in perpendicular to the earths surface due to gravity

>>512966523
>Except there isn't,
not factual
>the footage available is fake as fuck.

this is fake?

https://youtu.be/miA8Td4oNcY?si=p5H5MgUvkgZmZvE6&t=49

flat earther shills who pretend they believe the earth is flat, offer a stupid cope for pic related. they pretend they believe the moon is a hologram, ignoring the fact that the hologram would have to change itself depending on the viewer and the viewers location, altering itself to appear as if its orbiting the earth. another cope is to say the moon is a reflection on a dome, and they have silly little fake maps of the earths continents all distorted to support this claim they know is fake. its all retarded on purpose to facilitate well poisoning

>>512958588
Jewish CIA nigger poisoning the well with his flat earth horseshit.
I thought we'd gotten rid of you fucking retards but here you are.

>>512966023
Are you really unfamiliar with the concept of propaganda? Do you honestly believe every picture you’ve seen sourced from mainstream media outlets is authentic, as advertised and presented?

>>512966041
For the same reason they used crisis actors and a fake school with the sandyhook hoax instead of actually massacring children (see video under section titled “SANDYHOOK itp: >>512965380) Why would they kill thousands of people creating thousands of families hellbent on investigation of the truth for their dead relatives when they could instead just easily fake it? They also require a form at minimum tacit consent of the victims of their atrocities to alleviate themselves of certain karmic debt.

>>512967062
those 3 already speak enough about your clowning you dumb kike >>512966332
>>512966393
>>512966526

>>512941593 (OP)
mass trauma event enables easy reprogramming, which it super succesfully did

>>512966927
im not a flat earther, try reading the image i posted, it was in response to a flat earther and my image proves its round and includes instructions for anyone else to confirm the roundness for themselves.

>>512967062
90+% of the family members are npcs who will trust the news. and the rest are ignored or powerless to stop it. they want the real human sacrifice because they are sick fucks

>>512967062
you didnt answer the question.

Are these crisis actors?

>>512967062
crisis actors?

>>512941593 (OP)
If explosives were planted that would require security footage review or debris investigation, saying it was a plane controls the situation, fake people and hostage takers on board(no room for error), RC plane and remote explosive detonation, setiously the kike said "pull it" before wtc7 imploded, sloppy but they still got away with it

>>512967221
the shill you`re arguing with doesn`t believe anything he is saying. he is being retarded on purpose for the well poisoning psyop that shills started astroturfing hard with after we encouraged people not to take the vaxx

>>512955701
>The complex contained 13,400,000 square feet (1,240,000 m2) of office space and, prior to its completion, was projected to accommodate an estimated 130,000 people

>>512955701
>literally no one showed up to work that day,
>happened before most people get work
>had an hour to evacuate before collapse
really makes ya think huh?

>>512967216
Sorry, I have a viscerally negative reaction to any mention of flat earth.

>>512967221
>>512967329
You didn’t answer my questions… Are you really unfamiliar with the concept of propaganda? Do you honestly believe every picture you’ve seen sourced from mainstream media outlets is authentic, as advertised and presented?

>>512966548
Gravity is provably dogshit nonsense:
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/509630584/#509636972

you can independently, physically, empirically confirm via basic observation and repeatable testable scientific methods that earth is flat, stationary and enclosed. Don’t believe me, go look for yourself:
https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435656

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40435684

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40460254

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40442060

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40375472/#40451756

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40460212/#40513170

https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40641095/#40686204

>>512967906
>You didn’t answer my questions
I asked first. Dont avoid difficult questions just because it defeats your narrative. Did they fake the dead bodies too? lmao

>>512941593 (OP)
They already did that. They had the truck with explosives found in the twin towers and nobody gave a fuck.

>>512941593 (OP)
What exactly is unbelievable about planes smashing into buildings and collapsing from the fires that raged inside?

>>512941593 (OP)
That wouldn't have justified the patriot act. Using planes meant they could involve the TSA, spy on americans, etc., and ultimately get everyone behind the patriot act.

>>512967897
same

i always report them because they are an astroturfed raid of shills. sometimes the mods even respond and ban them

would be nice if everyone REPORT THE SHILLS. sure they will come back, because they`re pro shills with plenty of ips but it at least slows them down and stops any useful idiots they might acquire

>>512968339
See: >>512965179
watch Staveley’s breakdown.

>>512967906
>>512968880
it still didnt go away you dumb jewish filth >>512966332
>>512966393
>>512966526
>>512967139

>>512968880
>cant answer cuz it defeats him
>doubles down with deflective cope
you're done here.

>>512969816
>can’t into the most basic and fundamental forms of propaganda
>refuses to consider opposing viewpoints
ngmi

>>512941593 (OP)
>>512941660
>>512941683
Niggers

>512966212
kys
nobody itt should be giving this faggot (You)s

>512966248
gaylords wanna just deny the sublimation of a great amount of the steel

>>512966884
the funny part is the mere fact of electrostatics causing matter to clump NECESSITATES a spheroid earth, so these faggots are btfo and there's dumb bullshit cannot have any first principles by which flattardedness can ever be true

>>512967221
all those people right there proving jet fuel didnt melt the steel beams
otherwise they would absolutely not be touching the metal with their bare skin
anyone with a cast iron stove knows this all too well

>>512941593 (OP)
Making flying a humiliation ritual was a secondary objective

>512967906
>Gravity is provably dogshit nonsense
while gravity has never been proven as a force, anyone trying to say the effect of gravity hasnt been proven needs some padded fucking walls

>>512968725
>What exactly is unbelievable about planes smashing into buildings and collapsing from the fires that raged inside?
#1 they didnt topple
and if you think asymmetric damage to a steel high rise can accidentally cause near symmetry in collapse, I've got a pack of bridges to sell you cheap

>>512941593 (OP)
Because they are faggot cheerleaders and want to be loud and dramatic. They like a big show so you look at the details to much.

>>512941593 (OP)
because
(((THEY)))
control
the media

you have to be new here

>>512941593 (OP)
What a fucking muddy-watered shithole this thread is. And all these threads now.
>Hurrrrr WERE THERE PLANES????
>Hurrrrr NO PLANES BRO
FUCK OFF.

>>512967221
I believe they are what's called "extras" in the theater lingo.

>>512941593 (OP)
>Why didn't they just make up a story about terrorists planting explosives in the WTC towers instead of the whole plane crashing into the towers causing the jet fuel to weaken the steel beams which made the towers implode on themselves.
Because to drop a building like that so well you need experts and floor plans and the right amount of explosives placed in very specific spots and so on. It wouldn't have been believable if they said ragheads pulled something like this off. Also, buildings were targeted with explosive before (eg FBI HQ in 1993 iirc) so it was nothing new; the planes added dramatic effect which justified invasions and wars.

>>512944721
>UP
???

I was in WTC 1 on 9/11, I worked at the Skydive cafeteria on the 44th floor
the building was hit with a plane and there were no explosives that went off
I dunno if it was pre-planned or whatever but all the other conspiracy theories are retarded
the reason why the buildings went down is because everyone knew the builders cut corners and it was not built as sturdily as they wanted the public to believe
the buildings shouldn't have come down but they did, which the government covered up because the lawsuit would have toppled the insurance industry

>>512941593 (OP)
The point was to make a "no fly list." The list of people that the government could kidnap and torture without a lot of paperwork. Now all Americans can be added to that list for posting "I don't like genocide in Palestine" on any image board or just saying the words near a cell phone. No planes no lists . . .

>>512973073
>Skydive cafeteria

>>512973125
lol thank god I was too much of a retard to work at Windows on the World, I wouldn't be here today

>512973073
>the reason why the buildings went down is because everyone knew the builders cut corners and it was not built as sturdily as they wanted the public to believe
you are a turbo faggot and have aids

>>512973232
I probably do have turbo aids from all the dust
I remember walking over the Brooklyn Bridge to gtfo and realizing how COVERED I was compared to everyone else

>>512970296
>>512972225
problem is you are well known jewish shill you dumb kike >>512969021
so no one gives a fuck about your retarde claims

>>512973475
you got aids from getting fucked in the ass jew

>>512941593 (OP)
>Bush allowed the actual hijacked planes to crash
>jews planted bombs
>it was actually the US
>it was actually Saudi Arabia
>it was an insurance scam
>The absolute state of retards
Which is it?

>>512974056
jews planted the bombs same as they did with lavon affair, ss patria or capitol bombing
they tried to pull USA into wars in middle east and succeeded
they were caught red handed but used jews in US government and jewish media to cover for themselves

>>512941774
Mainly, I don't think it would have been as dramatic or iconic or plausible. There would be footage of them entering and leaving every day, tons of potential witnesses, the implication of a massive security failure if a bunch of arabs were able to enter the building with a bunch of explosives and equipment, etc. Basically, there is no way you could get that many people and that much equipment into the building, and explain any signs of the ongoing work, without a conspiracy, and so it wouldn't work.

Cia killed JFK, they still wanted to see how much can buck break their own nation.

>>512974962
>There would be footage of them entering and leaving every day, tons of potential witnesses, the implication of a massive security failure if a bunch of arabs were able to enter the building with a bunch of explosives and equipment, etc.
everyone noticed israelis doing it but they said its art project
pic rel
so they needed planes to pretend muslims did it

>>512959682
>single support column
lmao kike, you're off by close to two orders of magnitude

>>512975823
nope israelis killed JFK and jew killed the guy they paid for shooting him so he wouldnt spill the beans

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