Thread 512944522

Why do Leftwingers always go after red herrings like CEOs? Why do they never go after the equity firms that elect them?

>>512944522 (OP)
Because they are followers who believe nothing and think nothing and do nothing until they are instructed to do so

>>512944522 (OP)
i bet all of the troons who celebrated the united healthcare ceo's murder are going to be shocked and appalled when we celebrate soros' death

rightmorrhoids trying to convince anyone that is it ACKSHUALLY ZE LEFT that are the ones empowering and supporting globohomo megacorps, oligarchs and the banking system will never not be peak kek

>>512944522 (OP)
Lefties are just as prone to getting sidetracked as rightoids are. CEOs are their equivalent of DA JOOOOOZ and MUH ETHNOSTATE. No one really has the ability or desire to consider the real, structural elements which lead literally inevitably to this space because, to some extent, we are all complicit. The greatest victory of capitalism was convincing us on a pre-conscious level that it is an implicit texture of reality itself. Like Fisher said, it's easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism.

>>512944934
Shhh let them cheer.

>>512944522 (OP) >>512944583 >>512944643
Retard thread

>>512945078
>CEOs are their equivalent of DA JOOOOOZ
Except it really is the jews, not the CEOs.

>>512944522 (OP)
Uhhhh, idk about you but MY right wing death squad is going to kill enemies AND traitors. In Roblox.

>>512945136
Just ignore the fact all the major investment banks and megafunds are controlled by Jews goy, just ignore that they can basically give unlimited exclusive loans to their tribe and hold a stranglehold on financial liquidity it's just le ambiguous elites

>>512945282
Nah. Your entire belief system functionally amounts to blowing steam out of a pressure valve in a safe direction. Nothing you believe threatens the real power structures because it has everything to do with structure and nothing to do with a shadowy cabal of JOOOOOOZ. If every Jew on earth were magically replaced by a white guy, the machinery would keep on whirring in exactly the same way. A handful of white dudes would remark favorably on their incongruous fortune and, once they figured out how the machine works, would continue pulling the same levers: bribing politicians, extracting wealth from the work of others via rent, playing partisan games (but circling the wagons with other powerful people when the real structural forces behind their wealth are threatened), etc.

You see, in reality, your "movement" is counter-revolutionary. It further entrenches existing power structures by virtue of dividing the underclasses and thereby making us easier to conquer. You're like a rabid dog -- aggressive and willing to do violence (rhetorical, in your case, because you're a coward over an ideologue in the exact same way elites are powerful before they're anything else) and situationally useful. They'll put you down -- "your guys" will -- the moment you're no longer useful.

But hey, at least it feels good to feel important, right? Maybe you'll get a Trickle-Down Token (IOU) eventually once you've sufficiently done their bidding...

... but probably not, yeah?

>>512945864
>It has everything to do with structure and nothing to do with a shadowy cabal of Jews

No it has everything to do with a shadowy cabal of Jews as they are overrepresented in all financial institutions and are turbo ethnocentric unlike other people in that financial sphere who are atomised and have no collective power. Ethnocentric cooperation dominates selfish and humanitarian strategies and only 20% of the population working towards a similar goal is needed to influence the other 80%, so it is completely reasonable to surmise that Jews have a stranglehold over global finance

>If every Jew were magically replaced by a White guy, the machinery would keep whirring in exactly the same way
Completely false as Whites have different neurogenetics to Jews, will have personal associations to Europe not a 2% tribe and don't follow Talmudic thinking

>Your movement is counter revolutionary
The number one goal of global finance is flooding the West with 3rd worlders so we become too genetically degenerated and culturally dissolved to form a coherent and organised resistance to Jewish power. Jews have been pursuing strategies like this as a form of evolutionary warfare since the tale of Esther. They don't promote national socialism or race realism, Blackrock use their financial weight to promote racemixing, anti White propaganda and consoomer communism in every medium they get, whilst critics of Jews lose their bank accounts and millions of dollars. I'm not the puppet of these people, you are.

>>512945864
Says the guy with the support of the ethnic network. You just want to keep us from having an ethnic network so you can reap all the benefits for yourself uncontested. Fuck off and kys

>>512945864
There is no trans racial class solidarity at the top or at the bottom. Never has been. 0 evidence of it. The elite have always been waring tribal factions divided by race. Our elite are jews. They are not of us so they seek to destroy us. Their holy books say as much. I, for one, would like to see how things are when our elite DON'T have a literal religious commandment to enslave me. Can we run that experiment, please?

>>512946357
>so it is completely reasonable to surmise that Jews have a stranglehold over global finance
You aren't "surmising," though, are you? This isn't a theory to you that you propose or surmise. It is a fundamental, axiomatic function of everything you believe. This is, for the record, the divide which you're never going to be able to span with people who have a higher evidentiary standard for belief: everything is "correlated" or "surmised." Nothing is real or testable. It lives in the realm of faith, in an almost religious sense, that there exist all these mechanisms (none of which have ever been directly evidenced) by which these people (none of whom have ever had a crisis of conscience and so much as hinted at this cabal) pursue goals (again, none of which have ever been publicly expressed -- and all of which must be "interpreted" between-the-lines).

It's fine to surmise. Hypothesize away; theorize to your heart's content... but again, that's not what you do.

Where I see tangible, real, extant structural problems with identifiable and falsifiable hypotheses -- e.g. that if we heavily restrict lobbying and impose friction on capital's access to political power, we will see more policies which favor the people over elites -- the best the JC crew can muster is vague notions that if we get rid of Jews, everything is fixed!

The maddening thing is that some of what you say is cogent. Financialization, we will readily agree, is a fucking disaster and a rent-seeker's supra-economy which extracts pure wealth for doing zero work. But by attaching it to your unfalsifiable conspiracy theory, you completely poison the well. You immediately alienate EVERYONE who has a higher evidentiary standard and you do it by invoking things most people find too morally odious to associate with on any level at all.

Can you see why this is counter-revolutionary? Can you image how dropping the JC shit, we might be more united in our shared goals? This is the literal mechanism.

>>512947448
You belive in trans racial class solidarity among the elite despite 0 evidence of it.

>>512947566
Look up MLK's aborted Poor People's Campaign. If he was killed by the government, that's why they did it. The racial shit -- power doesn't actually care about it. They are pre-racial, pre-ideological, and pre-religious. Nothing matters to them but class... and that they are above you therein. The PPC threatened to bring class consciousness to America in a way which aligned white, black, jew and gentile alike. When you talk about race and religion, capital relaxes; it knows that no matter who wins, if concessions are necessary, they only have to pay off the victors. When you talk about class, you're threatening everything. They will circle the wagons and do everything they need to in order to preserve the system because they are all threatened. You see this over and over and over again in the historical record.

>>512947890
Crazy how jews never suffer from this supposed pan-racial elite you belive in..... They just keep getting richer and more politically protected.
Any theory on why that is?

>>512947998
I'm not going to play this game with you. I did you a solid of addressing your argument in good faith. If you want to have a discussion with me, you can address the substance of my argument and I'll defend it as best I can. I'm not going to play rhetorical whack-a-mole with you.

>>512948171
Wake me up when this supposed pan-racial elite starts to make life shitty for jews like they did for whites.
Jews have lots of money.
Why doesn't your pan-racial elite that you believe in want to take it from them?

>>512948267
You are the perfect enemy of the working class. Moron.

>>512948481
Because I'm not a retard that believes in the pan-racial elite conspiracy theory?

>>512948596
Because you're a racist, and hence divisive and toxic to mass movements. Because you are an enemy of the masses, you implicitly defend the wealthy financial parasites, and keep capitalism and the oppression of everyone around you going through your aforementioned well-poisoning.

Once the other poor white people wake up, and learn to identify you and people like you for what they are, they'll be willing to fight you. Then it's Red Guard time.

>>512949129
>i believe in the pan-racial elite conspiracy theory
Meds + tinfoil

>>512949129
It's amazing hearing you rant about how evil the rich are but you're also simultaneously 100% sure the elite aren't racist lolololol

>>512948171
>im not going to play this game
Ahhhh he got you, you've got nothing to retort with lmao

>>512949390
The rich have class solidarity. They care about money. They know promoting racism protects their money and keeps capitalism going.

I know how to identify people like you. Others will also learn what you really are.

>>512944522 (OP)
>BMW as a "small" business owner

sir, they're worried about the boot that's currently on their neck. Not the boot that's on the oppressors neck.

>>512949509
If your conspiracy theory was true, then jews would be just as downtrodden as whites. Even more so actually because they're a minority.

>>512949628
There is no conspiracy theory. You're promoting racism and deliberately well-poisoning in order to defend the rich and elite interests. You're not on the side of the poor white people at all. They'll figure it out and want you dead.

>>512949811
There is 0 evidence of a pan-racial elite. It's a conspiracy theory.

>>512949873
Idiotic rhetoric. The rich are defined by their wealth, not their race.

>>512944522 (OP)
Because they don't read, even Marx talked about jews and what they do

>>512949951
Then why do rich jews stick together?

>>512949951
So people with equal amounts of money are automatically in a conspiracy together even if literally every action they take is adversarial?
K.
Tinfoil hat + meds.

>>512950065
The rich are defined by their wealth. They are a class. That is the only way to define the rich.

>>512950094
The existence of economic classes, the rich and the poor, is not a conspiracy. Your rhetoric is falling apart.

>>512950156
>noooooooo, you see, when you have the same amount of money as someone else, the 2 of you are automatically in a conspiracy together!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Meds time

>>512950211
See above post. You're done.

>>512950203
The notion that 2 people with the same amount of money are automatically in a conspiracy together if, itself, a kooky conspiracy theory.
You need meds

>>512950287
Is, itself*

>>512950287
The existence of the rich as a class is not a conspiracy. You are obviously getting terrified.

Red Guard time will be fun

>>512950272
Meds

>>512950367
>2 people with the same amount of money anywhere on earth are automatically in a conspiracy together no matter what
Meds

>>512950424
Define "the rich"

The existence of the rich is not a conspiracy. Somebody's brain is melting on a public internet forum

>>512950478
Non sequitur.
You need to explain how your conspiracy theory where 2 people with equal amounts of money anywhere on earth automatically enter into a conspiracy together.
What's the mechanism there?
Telepathy?

>>512950583
Together works*

>>512950583
The rich exploit the poor through financial capitalism. That's not a conspiracy.

>>512950156
And rich jews are defined by being rich and Jewish, whats your point? Race doesn't suddenly go away just because you pass an invisible threshold of money.

>>512950632
You realize that can be true simultaneously with "the rich" not being a telepathic global united faction, right?
Those 2 ideas aren't mutually exclusive.

>>512950643
Race is irrelevant in the exploitation of the poor by the rich in financial capitalism. Race is only used by the rich to distract and divide the poor from correctly identifying the rich as the source of their exploitation.

>>512950632
They also exploit each other, whats your point? That doesn't mean they suddenly stop caring about race. How is this difficult for you to grasp?

>>512950729
Then why do wars happen where the old elite get crushed? Assad was rich, why did he get deposed and now lives in a dingy commie block?

>>512950762
Race is irrelevant. The mechanism of exploitation is the capitalist system itself.

>>512950729
>only
Whats your evidence for this claim? How do you possibly intend to prove that all rich people have transcended the concept of race, as if theyre some elite biology separate than us. We have evidence that rich jews stick together, rich Indians stick together, rich Nigerians stick together, etc. Wheres your evidence that your claim is true? Just because you've stated it doesn't mean we need to accept it

>>512950821
More irrelevant well-poisoning. Racism is used by the rich to continue their exploitation of the poor through capitalism.

>>512944522 (OP)
>Why do they never go after the equity firms that elect them?
not quite aiming right for that Top 1%...

>>512950897
>my shitty retarded conspiracy theory cannot account for any geopolitical events
I accept your concession of total defeat

>>512950823
Jews exploited whites under communism, Han Chinese exploited a variety of minorities under communism, it seems racial exploitation exists both inside and outside of capitalism

Hence, racism is not in the interest of the majority of whites, who are poor. Racists are inherently pro-rich, and therefore anti-white.

>>512944522 (OP)
It's the same play that these dumb retards fell for the first time with the French revolution and every time after that like with a communist revolution. It's rich people telling useful idiots to go after the middle class claiming that the middle class are the real rich people. Then when communists kill/destroy the middle class the rich people swoop in and buy everything up and then get rid of the useful idiots.

>>512945218
Wow, I never seen such blatant lying and gaslighting before from you communist retards. This is also the second issue you retards have and why you can never hold power. You worship and praise your revolution leaders today only to turn on them and call them traitorous and working for the "wrong side" after a decade or so because you always need a new scape goat to explain away why your movement if a complete failure, and what easier way to explain it away then sabatoge.

>>512951033
So youre saying we should have our racial interests at heart, prioritizing whites above other groups since we ourselves are white- correct?

>>512951142
No. I'm saying white people should recognize that racism keeps them poor.

>>512951071
What "lying and gaslighting" you imbecile? It's a collection of endorsements by massive corporations and the media for your ideology.

>>512951183
But capitalism demands the abolishing of racism to open markets to cheap foreign labor?
You want to defeat capitalism by doing exactly what capitalism is asking you to do lolololololol

Certain people have recognized that racism keeps white people poor.

Hahahaha.

I accept your 2nd concession of total defeat

>>512944522 (OP)
Because they don't bite the hand that feeds them

>>512951282
Capitalism benefits from racism because racism is toxic to revolutionary mass movements. Increasing immigration allows the capitalist to pay workers less and promote racism, which is what you are advocating for.

I know how to identify people like you, like I said in the first place.

>>512951425
But capitalism needs to reduce racism to open the markets to foreign labor in the first place so that's oxymoronic.
Secondly, since you seem to agree that capitalism loves cheap foreign labor, what say you to those who would call you racist for kicking out cheap foreign labor?
That factually would be a very racist thing to do.

Notice how this thread is now getting raided by troon communists? Because they know they are being used and have to defend their actions.

>>512951242
Thanks for proving my point....

>>512951282
That isn't what capitalism is either...

>>512951584
No, capitalism promotes racism. Like you are doing right now. You know that racism is toxic to mass movements. You fear what will happen if the poor unite against the rich.

Jig's up.

>>512951732
You're just thumping boiler plate rhetoric without explaining how your conspiracy theory accounts for any observable phenomenon.
I accept your 3rd concession of total defeat.

>>512949509
Heve you considered that whites don't want to be burdened with being around lesser races. Not every issue is focused around class. Lessers such ss 60 IQ sub-Saharans will only be a drain to white societies. Removing the wealthy elites while maintaining your society as a dysgenic multiracial hellhole will still end in a lower quality of life for your average white man.

>>512951878
The rich exploit the poor through capitalism. The rich promote racism to divide the poor and prevent them from uniting and ending their exploitation by the rich. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's obvious to everyone.

>>512944522 (OP)
Leftists are all children of the kikes.

>>512951970
Answer the questions you dodged here >>512951584

>>512952020
It's not dodging the question when its outright false and is made to bait somebody into talking about something else.

>>512952020
Your attempts at distraction failed. The source of exploitation is capitalism itself. Racism is used by the rich to keep the exploitation going.

The rich use mass immigration to enrich themselves further, and simultaneously promote racism to prevent the displaced workers from uniting.

Duh.

>>512952376
>2nd time dodging the same simple direct questions
I accept your 4th concession of total defeat

>>512952610
Well-poisoning and attempts at distraction. Weak rhetoric.

>>512951183
How exactly does it 'keep them poor'? When Indians are nepotistic they gain wealth. When Nigerians are nepotistic they gain wealth. When jews are nepotistic they gain wealth. Its only whites that seem to be held to this imaginary standard, only whites you expect to not have racial solidarity.

>>512951970
Let's also point out that in ethnically homogenous countries the poor dont suddenly band together to overthrow the rich. There wouldn't be racism in white nations if there weren't other races here- races brought here by the wealthy as scab labor.

>>512944522 (OP)
Leftists aren't all that intelligent.

>>512952376
A nation filled with objectively lesser humans is a net loss for everyone. Some races are on average lomer IQ and have a higher propensity for various negative traits. This is genetic and no amount of wishful thinking and trying to civilize them will ever help. What you call racism is just a recognition of basic evolutionary characteristics.

>>512952679
Yes, that is your playbook.
I look to reality to form my worldview.

>>512952376
>the rich use mass migration to subvert your race
>and thats why you should accept it and stop opposing mass migration
Man wtf are you even saying at this point

>>512952699
The Chinese revolution was successful. The poor united against the rich.

When the poor successfully unite against the rich, they overthrow the rich as a class, and take their stolen wealth back.

>>512952784
1 homogenous race of poor people

They are starting to figure out the best targets. United Healthcare was a good start. Then Blackstone CEO. Reason why insurance companies refuse to cover and why rent and properties are too expensive. Hit the worst health insurance and the 2nd worst real-estate firm. The thing is though it is so far radical centrists doing the assassinations. Libshits have their heads too far up their own asses chasing luxury beliefs to figure this out.

>>512952858
>When the poor successfully unite against the rich, they overthrow the rich as a class, and take their stolen wealth back.
LMAO, that doesn't even happen either. Another rich asshole swoops in and takes everything away from the poor because they hold little power and are unorganized.

>>512952867
China isn't actually homogeneous, and you accidentally conceded the point! You are aware that racism is used by the rich to divide the poor and continue exploiting the workers.

>>512945864
>If every Jew on earth were magically replaced by a white guy, the machinery would keep on whirring in exactly the same way.
lol no. Nice try shlomo

>>512952950
The Chinese revolution was completely successful. The poor took everything, including land, back from the rich. Many landlords were killed.

>>512952969
Post evidence of that working class revolution without a distinct overwhelming racial majority any time, schizo conspiracy theorist.
I'm waiting.
Let's see it.

>>512953095
Without realising it, you're continuing to concede the point... racism is counter-revolutionary and not in the interest of the white majority.

>>512952969
>China was a diverse society of Africans, Indians, Mexicans, whites, and Chinese
Wooooah really thats crazy

>>512953197
No, youre simply saying 'accept being a minority in your homelands while other races enjoy having homogenous societies' and were saying 'no'

>>512953197
>Yes, that Chinese revolution i mentioned was indeed 99% ethnically homogenous
I accept your 5th concession of total defeat

>>512953243
You're still conceding the point. You know that racism can be used to keep exploiting the masses. I knew that from the beginning, like I said.

>>512949129
>Because you're a racist, and hence divisive and toxic to mass movements.
I found the Capitalist piggy!
All white people are racists lol! Got a new diversion tactic?

You have exposed yourselves as being entirely opposed to the interests of the workers, including the white workers.

>>512953080
>The Chinese revolution was completely successful
Sure it has.

>>512953318
Our point from the beginning was that mass migration is a weapon being used against whites you absolute retard

Your point is that we should just not care about being ethnically replaced (even though other races are allowed to care)

>>512944522 (OP)
Because fox news told you occupy wallstreet was run by fags and trannies and you retards believed that so now banks and PE run/ruin everything. Good job rightoid

>>512953444
The poor united and won the revolution, then they took their wealth back. The rich in the West are terrified of this, it is inevitable.

>>512953414
Go get beaten up by boards by your higher ups for protesting for Palestinians you dumbass.

>>512953480
Racism is being used to keep white people poor. The rich are responsible.

>>512947448
>unfalsifiable conspiracy theory
JQ confers more predictive power than Marxian analysis
JQ is a subset of elite theory, which holds that groups are ruled by organized minorities
Jews are an organized minority and there is a preponderance of empirical evidence to support the claim they rule the USA
JQ-pilled analysts and commentators predicted 2 years ago that
1) Trump would win
2) Trump would back Israel in coming Iran war
4) Jewish power would pivot to the Republicans
5) Jewish media and military ads would dial back the woke shit and try to appeal to white men
All of that came true

>>512953626
Whites have a right to a homeland just like anybody else. When we point that out you call us racist. When other races point it out you call them heroic. You are the weapon being used against whites by the rich. You do their work for them

>>512953665
Rich Jews promote anti-Semitism because they know that racism keeps capitalism going.

>>512953487
Those faggots cared about the banking issues until a significant proportion was distracted by fag issues to pry them off the movement. NPCs with short attention span. I think the worm theory is true.

>>512953746
Using similar logic, the IDF covertly funds Hamas. Racism is a tool used to divide and conquer opponents by dividing the people and poisoning mass movements.

For a while if you made this connection you got banned.

Anti-racism is the real red pill. Welcome to the end of the Matrix.

>>512953910
You promoted antiwhite racism until you got rug pulled for wrong think.

>>512954065
Actually I invented racism. It's a long story...

>>512944643
they won't geg

>guys, to defeat capitalism, we need to do exactly what capitalism demands for a while, diversify our workforce to cheapen labor and then form the perfect multi racial revolutionary force capable of smashing capitalism
AntiFags and Marxists are jews

>>512954183
There are revolutionary Jews. An anti-capitalist revolution is in the interest of the white majority -- the workers.

>>512944522 (OP)
CEOs are the enemy of humanity, the left/right divide exists so you'll never figure it out.

>>512954276
>Yes, to defeat capitalism, we must obey capitalism

>>512953746
Retarded poast. Diversity breaks solidarity and makes it harder to unionize. Also if racism was good for capitalism, then why don’t capitalists promote racism? Finally on an abstract level, racism and capitalism are at odds, since racism binds people together in groups, while capitalism tends toward uniformity and standardization, leveling all people as mere individuals.

>>512954337
Capitalism will be defeated when the poor unite against the rich. This will happen as a natural consequence of history.

>>512954049
Welcome to Zion Neo. We are exiting the ship Nebuchadnezzar. Totally not controlled opposition.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSVlOAocn8E

>>512954417
>2 people anywhere on earth with the same amount of money automatically form conspiracies together through telepathy
Meds

>>512954393
Racism breaks solidarity. Racism is counter-revolutionary and not in white interests.

We're going around in circles. I don't need another victory lap.

Tell your therapist about it. Breathe.

>>512954533
So, by that logic, you should support whites having their own nations. Dont you have 'solidarity' with us? Or is that just an empty phrase to get us to accept the loss of our homelands

>>512954533
Racism is the natural friction that occurs when separate groups come into contact. It’s not an ideology. It’s an artifact of human nature. Diversity and racism go together like a man and his shadow.

>>512945864
the jew is afraid

How about fixing poverty first then focus on racism? People tend to be less racist when they are finically secure. Say anything else and I know in an instant that you are paid to prevent doing anything about income inequality.