Thread 512948685

Trump has a point. Why start a war with Russia? Ukraine would've been better off if they focused on normal trade with Russia instead of some ephemeral national awakening.

>>512948685 (OP)
Trump own now this Biden war!

>>512948685 (OP)
nafo retards are about to have their heads explode

Few people actually speak the truth about the Ukraine conflict. And just like Tucker lying the other day about knowing his father was in the CIA, these NATO shills have proven they're liars time and time again.

This war was provoked w\ the 2014 coup, and actions that came after. The low IQ nato shill will try to poo poo this but it's literally recorded on video, and you cannot just play it off when victoria nuland, john mccain, john brennan, and many other US officials were on the ground helping the coup, and helping to form the next government. This little faggot zelensky is an actor.

Why he's being treated as though he's got some storied history in ukraine is beyond me... Fuck ukraine, desu, established 1992? Those niggers are barely old enough to legally drink and zelensky has only been there for a few years, canceled elections, and he simply needs to go.

That cunt walks around acting as though he is the supreme ruler there. He's a gay cocaine addicted actor. And they should put a fucking bag over his head and put him in witness protection or something so they can make a peace deal.

>>512948783
Biden should not have started this war against poor innocent dindu nuffin russia.

>>512949038
>Few people actually speak the truth about the Ukraine conflict.
You certainly don't, John Burger from Oregon oblast. Russia started this war by invading Ukraine for the sole reason of burning, looting, and murdering white people. Nobody outside of russia believes your kremlin lies.

>>512948685 (OP)
>trump has a point

>>512948685 (OP)
>Ukraine would've been better off if they focused on normal trade with Russia instead of some ephemeral national awakening.
They were basically doing this for 3 decades. Russia was their #1 trade partner all this time.

They should've done what Poland did in 1990s: get rid of all Russian influence.

>>512949305
IDK why you bother posting that low IQ response when it's easy to prove what I said. NATO officials have repeatedly skirted around the established fact that NATO expansion was the primary cause of the conflict.

There's even video of Joe Biden talking about how NATO expansion was a no go for Russia. Totally verified fact.. and yet nato officials, and eu officials who want war lie about it. They constantly speak as though Russia is going to start invading europe too as though they are unable to determine what lead to the ukraine conflict.

You, shit for brains, are a nigger faggot shill and you should get off our board.

>>512949757
Ukraine was part of Russia in 1990. And Poland seems like an ultra cucked country on the NATO front lines... paying their protection money to daddy USA and praying we save you if you provoke an escalation. Sad situation.. they used ukraine as pawns and you people are also being used as pawns.

>>512948685 (OP)
cool. when is Trump releasing Maxwell? lets make pedophilia normal again!
MAGA!

>>512949825
>easy to prove what I said
But you won't because everything you posted are blatant kremlin lies that only low IQ subservient russians such as yourself would believe. You are reposting tired old falsehoods that everyone has heard hundreds of times already. Russia is a terrorist nation that started this war, nobody can deny this fact.

>>512949912
>Ukraine was part of Russia in 1990.
Wrong. It was part of USSR. Under USSR Ukrainian state had it's own representation in UN. Since 1992 Ukrainians were free to do whatever they could and they wasted their best chance of getting rid of corruption, join western institutions and become Spain-size economy - something Russia wouldn't dare to touch.
>they used ukraine as pawns and you people are also being used as pawns.
Of course John Smith from New Jersey oblast. Poles would also love Russia if CNN didn't brainwash us all, because obviously we have no mind and reason and our own history.

>>512949825
>da evil NATO started a war, poor innocent Russia had to drone bomb kindergartens in response to a voluntary defensive pact
Get better material Ivan

>>512949912
god americans are fucking dumb

>>512948685 (OP)
>Why start a war with Russia?
because they are seething hater tits bitch nigger subhuman mutants who must all be genocided because they cannot stop seething at your existance. nigger.

>>512949825
>that NATO expansion was the primary cause of the conflict.
NATO expanded because countries afraid of russian imperialism asked to join
pic related
side note: Poland had to jump through hoops to get invited to NATO
if not for Brzeziński and other influential people, we were very close to getting rejected

>>512949038
even ai thinks you are a retarded faggot bitch gossping like and old woman on a porch.

>>512948685 (OP)
It's genocide disguised as a war tho.

>>512948685 (OP)
>Ukraine started the war

Holy based Trump is 2014-pilled?

That's what the Obama and Biden Administrations DIRECTED them to do. That's why Zelensky was installed, to antagonize Russia.

>>512948685 (OP)
Why is he such a putin dick rider? Either hes just brain damaged, or putin has tapes of him fucking little kids. Could be both i guess

>>512951534
he just wants his nobel peace prize at any cost
he will make any deal on any terms to get it
big ego, is all

>>512950705
>Ukraine part of USSR

The Soviet constitution recognized Ukraine as its own entity. It was never part of the USSR. It was always separate. They were autonomous in many aspects of rule making. So long as they adhered to the communist framework. Many of the Sovietsl Unions best fighters and scientists came from Ukraine.

>>512948879
They will and trump better watch out given past attempts on his life by Ukraine trannies. These people are so emotionally invested in a conflict thousands of miles away that it should be classified as a mental illness

>>512949607
One way or another it's ending soon

>>512951007
Nato is all up in Russian borders. Nato expansion is cited as a reason. The real reason is the "bitter collapse" held by Russian political speakers. They believe the collapse of the Soviet Union was a mistake and conspiracy. They do actually believe they were betrayed. It's the same bitter peace myth nonsense that pushed the NAZIs forward in 1933

In the coming years. Russia will test nato. Likely azeri or Baltics.

>>512948879
Trump is in nafo, retardo.

>>512951158
Impossible. Russians aren't capable of genocide.

>>512951534
He thought Alaska was in Russia, it’s pretty clear the fat pedophile is losing his marbles

>>512951834
Trump has dementia so he misspeaks a lot, but in the same rambling press conference it's clear he understands Alaska belongs to us. What's not clear is why he needs to suck Putin's cock for 3 days on Brokeback Mountain.

>>512951603
>The Soviet constitution recognized Ukraine as its own entity.
lol
Ukraine was a SSR
just like Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia and many other SSRs constituting the USSR
their autonomy and right seceded was only on paper
everything was decided in Moscow
your southern states also tried to secede at one point and Washington showed them what's what

>>512951990
>and right seceded
*and right to secede

>>512951977
They probably have dirt on him just like Israel does. Trumps lived a long life of being a degenerate sex fiend so probably a lot of dirt out there.

>>512952041
You know the main difference? The United States didn't dissolve in 1991.

>>512951990
Yeah and look at the south now, it’s a third world nigger shit hole still being punished for daring to oppose the union, a good example of why you should fight the death to avoid forced compliance. Talk to any southerner on here and they’d gladly leave the union again in they could.

>>512952340
>The United States didn't dissolve in 1991.
because they had the better political system which prospered instead of bankrupting itself

>>512951603
You do realize we've been doing this for a very long time. Its not the presidents who make these decisions. In 1949 we started Operation Red Soxs to subvert Russians in Ukraine.

>>512948685 (OP)
>Why start a war with Russia?
Be retarded Nazi
See Ukrainian with Russian roots
Go grrrrrrrrr

>>512952487
>a good example of why you should fight the death to avoid forced compliance
you're talking about Eastern European - Russia relations?
I agree with you totally

>>512952340
*nato

>>512951603
>It was never part of the USSR. It was always separate.
It was literally called Ukrainian SOVIET Socialist Republic. How much independence it theoretically had doesn't matter in practice. E.g. when USSR invaded Afghanistan, Ukrainian troops were sent there like everyone else.

However it wasn't part of Russia and even during USSR Russians considered Ukrainians as different people. Brotherly nation (unlike Poles who were "brotherly" nation - quotation very much needed), but not the same nation. Even picrel was considered Ukrainian in his own documents.

>>512948685 (OP)
You don't get it. Losing land is ILLEGAL according to Ukrainian LAW. Big Z doesn't have the authority to allow that.

>>512952864
Big Z is not even a president anymore, we can't device shit from the law standpoint.

>>512949305
Ukraine started a massive shelling campaign on the seperatists 5 days before the invasion, retard shill.
20 days after Biden took office.

>>512953030
>seperatists
those were russian troops without marked uniforms
of course they shelled them, it was an invasion

>>512949038
Russia poisoned the president of Ukraine in 2008

Stop blaming it on the ukrainians. It 100% was cia homos. Ukrainian peasants are just gulllible peasants dying to enforce globo homo on the entire world

>>512952789
You are full of shit faggot.
For most of its existance the USSR was ruled by people from ukraine. Kiev and Moscow ran the country. The KGB was full of ukrainians.

Are you stupid or a lying cunt?

>>512953127
Why did Yushenko refuse to give his blood sample to independent lab to check this theory out?

>>512953110
So you are saying the LPR and DPR have no troops?
Really faggot?

>>512953150
>conquer and starve a people
>recruit some traitorous sellouts
see? we rule together! this is a collab!

>>512953344
yes LRP and DPR were fake entities set up by russia with russian everything

>>512953405
It seems they pretty much identify themselves as Russian. It was enough for Kosovo to get independence.

>>512949305

> John Burger from Oregon oblast.

Is it really that hard to understand that half this country hates Ukraine. We literally elected an anti-Ukraine President.

>>512953302
Classic KGB move. Come, tovarish. Free blood tests today.

>>512953488
>It was enough for Kosovo to get independence.
I have zero love for Serbs but Kosovo's independence was bullshit
just like LRP and DPR

>>512948685 (OP)
How much longer will this orange retard chirp up about Ukraine?

All he does is talk. I’m not paying my taxes anymore until this is over. Russia started this war. Let the monkey Putin deal with it.

>>512949038
This might surprise you, but it's actually still not legal to invade another country even if their government has a coup. If you invade that country you are still the aggressor in every version of international law.

>>512948685 (OP)
Why is the entire Trump admin so hell bent on hating Ukraine that they think Ukraine started the war?
JD Vance said the US won't spend more money "on that Ukraine thing". like lmao thats so removed from reality. At least keep blaming yourself or NATO at least.

>>512953538
>half this country hates Ukraine
half your country can't find Ukraine on the map lol

The orange nigger is just trying to get away from that mess and then blame everything in europe.
>i negotiated a piss deal with russia, the best piss deal. Russia gets everything they want and hohols get fucked
>what you don't want this? This is Europe's fault!
>continue to sell shit to europe while not directly wasting their resources on the ukraine

>>512948685 (OP)
No link faggot kys

>>512953656
>JD Vance said the US won't spend more money "on that Ukraine thing"
America's ass is on fire from China, helping Israel and internal problems
they would love nothing more than to end and forget about Ukraine

>>512952864
you got a loisense for that land?

>>512953110
Prove it.

>>512953677
Which proves how insignificant this wannabe country is.

>>512953652
If Mexico or Canada would get couped by pro-Russian agents (like McCain, Graham, Nulland in Ukraine) in order to install there nuclear arsenal, you can be sure it'll get invaded in no time without any remorse.

>>512953110
>Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 using invisible tanks and invisible soldiers
meds

>>512953971
no it just shows how ignorant typical burgers are
but they talk big because that's what troglodytes do

>>512948685 (OP)
Trump is an insane retard. Russia is not a normal country.

>>512953940
you can google it

Bros, I fucking love this time line so much

>>512954038
the tanks were quite real and the soldiers were green, not invisible
just wihtout russian markings

>>512954081
so you got no proof and spread baseless conspiracy theories instead.

>>512953812
Its definitely not in the US interest to see Russia regain more and greater strength. The Ukraine thing is US' proxy war versus their 100 year peer rival. Its more important than the future peer rival. Unfortunately the elites in these countries hate each other on legacy basis that won't go down until one is humiliated.

>>512953912
In fact, yes. We bought Kiev from Poland, LEGALLY. Here's the said licence.

>>512954153
no, I'm just not go to hold your dick while you pee

>>512953030
I thought it was about “denazification” or whatever

>>512953538
That's not close to true. At most, 30% of the country thinks we're too involved. Most of those people will still say they support Ukraine's right to defend itself. Generously, let's say 15% of Americans want us to be less involved because they hate Ukraine for whatever reason. That's not half.

>>512954038
Pretty sure they invaded Crimea

>>512954029
You really think America was planning to put nukes in Ukraine? that's retarded, they just wanted to steal all the natural resources and oil like they always do

>>512954029
You mean like Cuba was?
Oh wait it wasn't.
You mean like Venezuela was?
Oh wait it wasn't.

>>512954115

> 15 posts by this id

Kys Polish anon, I love you but some of you are why too much obsessed with Russia

Let the hate go and you feel better


Fuck it, you might be Ukrainian refugee in Poland when I think again

>>512953940
bot

>>512953652
The only rule in war is "don't lose."
All of this other shit is inane babbling.
"International law"
lol
lmao even.

>>512948685 (OP)
The point was for the West to finally beat the East in a competition among the top whites(ish) but you can't do that anymore now that China is aiming to get rid of whites on both sides as long as jews don't end up on top.

>>512954047
The US shat their pants and almost started a global war when Russia tried to make Cuba a puppet state, but they install a puppet government in Ukraine and suddenly act all shocked when Russia’s not too happy and does something about it?

>>512951689
thats the point

>>512948685 (OP)
Euromaidan happened because the urban elites wanted Ukraine to join the EU. Now the rural underclass is fighting in the war the urban elites started.

The fact is, class often matters, and you can't ignore it when it does. Class is very much a part of what's going on in Ukraine, both in how the war got started, and who is fighting it.

Euromaidan was a bunch of upper middle-class urban women. The war is being fought by poor rural men. Now tell me if that's not similar to what's going on in America and other countries in the West. The fact is, women need to get a boot to the face if they're going to be getting uppity starting wars they expect us to fight.

>>512954115
show me photos of those tanks then.

>le unmarked
that happened after the illegal CIA coup, the legal parliament of Crimea asked the people of Crimea to choose between CIA coup and Putin. They voted Putin. And the legitimate parliament of Crimea asked Russia to secure these legal polls using Russian soldiers.

>>512954304
We're talking specifically about who "started" the war. Even if we leave international law out of it, everyone knows it's the guy that sends troops over the other guys border and opens fire first.

>>512954272
> I love you
no need
beser a patsh fun a khokhem eyder a kush fun a nar

>>512951990
It was no different to Moscow than Nebraska is to Washington DC. Local and regional Ukrainian governmental Soviet councils ran life. Moscow did not. Only in times of war or hardship dis Moscow do shit. Yes the power was all in Moscow but ukranian so it's elected representatives. Hell Khrushchev was ukranian

I am well versed in my Soviet history.

>>512954205
t. gay NATO shill
grim

>>512948685 (OP)
Why do foreign leaders know more about our government than our own president?

>>512954155
What's in our interest is no longer relevant.

>>512949038
Victoria Nuland, a ukrainian jew, started it all. Here is a classic from the leaked convo


>>>/wsg/5929638

>>512954233
>invade Crimea by getting asked by the legal parliament of Crimea to protect their legal referendum
meds

>>512949126
Russians just have bad luck to be surrounded by literal nazis that are russophobic for no reason.

All the NAFOtrannies in this thread need only remind themselves of muh 14:1 kd ratio. It’s definitely a real thing and not a lie to help cope with the fact that Oinkraine is losing and will be utterly buck broken at the end of this war.

>>512954423
did Washington intentionally starve Nebraska into compliance too?

>>512954044
You know where Ukraine is only because it's your neighbor. I bet I come up to you on the street and you won't be able to point e.g. Benin or Belize on the map.

>>512954384
Nah you're just a fat smelly idiot. You have no idea what living in Ukraine was like the past 100 years, let alone why they'd want to distance themselves from Russia.

>>512954272
>don't worry about imperialism lol just let it happen

>>512954490
dumb gaslighting Russian, Crimea never asked for referendum until after it was already under Russian occupation

>>512953369
All of Russia was starving in the 30's faggot. NATO just rewrote the textbooks to pretend it was only ukrainians

>>512949038
You’re a shitskin who has to go back

>>512954584
>Benin
in Africa above the equator somewhere
>or Belize
somewhere Caribbean

>>512948685 (OP)
Why did Bush started war on terrorism when unrelated definitely non jews just trespassed on US air and had to perform a special operation on the twin towers. It's the same with Russians doing a special operation to help russian separatist against ukranians. That means war on terror is illegitimate? Or why Netajew can commit genocide on palestine population the terrorist group just trespassed on Jewish ground which (they also allowed to btw) to commit special operation on jewish moloch ravers.

>>512954636
that makes no sense at all.
also
>get paid to have a Russian military base on Ukraine
>noooo, that's occupation
So wait a moment, your GARBAGE military bases are shitting up Germany, and WE EVEN PAY FOR THAT MUD GARBAGE.
Explain that, *murican
Looks like illegal occupation to me.

>>512954643
>All of Russia was starving in the 30's faggot.
lmao is this what they taught you at the school of Stalin worship?

>>512949607
Its Biden's war Chud.
With Trump, Zelesnky still has the cards.

>>512954109
Well you get to successfully expand your borders, thanks to the barbaric brainless gazans.

>>512954208
Right because all wars have only 1 reason to start.
Retard

>>512954683
>somewhere
Exactly.

>>512948685 (OP)
Trump is a weakling and a treasonous willing puppet of the kikes. He was best buddy with Epstein, and he has practically pardoned Ghislaine Maxwell ffs. How can anyone still support this goofus after all that? Wasn't it enough that he rugpulled his own base with memecoin scams? Or that tariffs are paid by the importer, so the consumer end-user i.e. (You).
I understand Stockholm Syndrome, but after the whole Qanon psyop, what more do you need to cower in shame at the thought of supporting this freak? Only the most decrepit, gluttonous, two digit IQ boomer still falls for his shit.

>>512954767
I'd at least know where to start looking
an american would be surprised there's even a globe with something other than the US on it

>>512954592
>a woman wants to wear laced panties (she can do it even without EU)
>now you have to jump in a trench
Seems like a great deal, eh?

(Caption: I am a girl I don't want EAEU, I want laced panties and EU)

>>512954567
Yes, we call it the Indian Wars.

People than never had to deal with russians always think they are experts on them. Russians are literally a jew coded nation of snakes and rats. Trump is gonna get fucked by them and won't even know what hit him.

>>512954643
It's actually the opposite, they teach that 100m died in soviet russia in most western countries, it's a number that comes from the US victims of communism foundation and is completely made up. Which american oblast do you live in?

>>512954780
>shitcoin is a scam
no shit sherlock

>>512954423
>Hell Khrushchev was ukranian
>I am well versed in my Soviet history.
Barstool trivia qualifies as expertise here.

>>512954812
>Yes, we call it the Indian Wars.
did you then recruit those starved Nebraskan Indians to co-run the United States with you, like Kiev and Moscow?

>>512954731
See what I mean.
Only a faggot shill would pretend all of Russia was not starving in the 30s.

>>512954808
Ukraine does not want to be aligned with you retarded mongols. It's as simple as that Igor.
The rest of the world looking in can see what a bunch of cold, smelly miserable little goblins you are. It's hardly a surprise Ukraine wants none of it.

>>512951603
Ukraine is losing.

>>512954721
>Looks like illegal occupation to me.
Ok so you agree Russia and USA are both committing illegal occupations?

>>512954891
>See what I mean.
no, you didn't prove anything

>>512954808
>I want laced panties
That goes without saying Zissy
>I am a girl I don't want EAEU
Feminine penises don't count.

>>512954838
Haha
Yes everyone who tells the truth here is a russian in disguise
You tranny faggot shills all read off the same script

Ukraine lost
Your lies have not helped one bit
Cope and seethe

>>512954918
they want non-smelly poos, I guess everybody wants that

>>512954871
No, we toppled their governments, took their land, and abducted their children for proper Americanization in remote charter schools.

>>512954943
no
Russia paid for its military base in Ukraine, as well as Syria and they had also legal contracts

you on the other hand are mud scum and forcing people to pay for your mud bases.

>>512954731
He right though, Google Volga famine. As the same time that muh Ukraine got the "holodomor" millions more died in Russia
Doesn't fit the "ethnic genocide" by russians narrative huh?
You have to go back pigger

>>512954029
There were already NATO nukes stationed in the Baltics, but you didn't invade there.

>>512954918
It really is that simple.

>>512949330
Wasting your time bro. Mutts genuinely can't comprehend Whites uniting, rising up and fighting back. Their deracialized Christ-cucks whom think sitting back and allowing yourself to be destroyed is based because a magical Jew is going to fly down and save them. Hence anytime you have Whites organizing and uniting, like in the Whitest country on earth Ukraine, tub'o lard Amerifats immediately scream MUH CIA/MUH FBI. They do it in their own country claiming Patriot Front or anybody that actually meaningfully organizes in real life are 'feds'. If Russia/North Korea attack US like they are Ukraine the majority will sit back and let it happen because 'muh rapture' or 'muh deepstate' whilst chomping on a burger complaining their NFL nigger-ball has been disrupted.

>>512954924
How are the banana crops doing?

>>512955016
You're dodging the point, the made a claim about "NATO" textbooks, but the textbooks actually say the opposite of what you claim. Meaning you haven't read them and you weren't educated in a western country.

>>512948685 (OP)
true, you should surrender to india and capitulate. why fight with them when be cuckold is option on the table?

>>512948685 (OP)
Fuck MAGA cult and fuck Israel.

>>512954643
All of Russia is starving RIGHT NOW!

>>512955151
>I got NATO textbooks
t. NATO shill

>>512955075
as if paying for a navel base gives you right to seize the peninsula it's on lmao, retarded zigger

>>512954918
Nice bowling, Warney.

>>512955228
>it was real in my mind
meanwhile burgers can't even afford sugar drinks and McDoofus

>>512955151
You are a faggot shill
What the other anon said
>Google Volga famine

>>512955281
>seize
they were asked legally by the Crimean parliament, retarded shill.

>>512948685 (OP)
america started the war by overthrowing the elected government in kiev, maybe zog should fuck off and mind it's own business, impossible
trump fucks kids
fuck zog
fuck israel

>>512955107
>hohols
>whites uniting
LMAO

>>512955340
Crimean parliament didn't have the authority to ask for annexation you retard, the Russian government legally transferred the territory to the constitution Ukrainian republic.

>>512948685 (OP)
trymp is an orange retard

Russia's entire argument rests on the idea that they have some God-given right to dominate their neighbours.
They don't.

>>512955419
>they can't do anything, they are just the LEGAL CRIMEAN PARLIAMENT and can't do anything about CRIMEA
oh noes, he's retarded
>but it violated the Ukrainian constitution
no shit sherlock, your shitty CIA already broke that one
>get infiltrated by CIA and US military
>no, no, you can't do anything about that

>>512953030
You have posted this same exact lie, nearly word for word, and used the same pic, literally hundreds of times. Stupid russian.

>>512955295
Americans are panicking because we're nosediving toward a European standard of living.

>>512955405
Cope and seethe, mongoloid.

>>512955302
Googling that is still you dodging the point here, which is about what the textbooks would say if you went to a school in America, which you didn't

>>512955496
their nukes disagree

holy fuck nato bots are in full force out here

This is great, cry more loser

You lost troons and you would remember as loser

>>512955419
Their will was illegally supressed by Ukraine in 90s. As authonomous oblast, Crimea had the right to cecede from USSR, just like other republics. No one cared about the legality back then. Why care now?

>>512955563
that's because you occupied most of Europe and suck us dry.

>>512955151
Born in the USA faggot.
My mom was born in Armavir in 1922 faggot shill. I heard the stories first hand. 1 day a week food arrived. 3 times it was turnips and once a month they got cabbage and everyone celebrated. They all grew peppers in window planters and soaked them in vodka so they would have something to nibble on when they starved in the winter.

You are the lowest form of life pretending to care because somebody is paying you.

>>512955569
>azog
LMAO
The goyest of goyim indeed.

>>512955541
This is retarded. Someone post the webm of Putin going on about the settled borders of Ukraine through to admitting the little green men were behind the Crimean operation.

>>512948685 (OP)
is trump bipolar or something? I legitimately don't get this constant flip-flopping.

>>512955573
>their nukes disagree
So, France has the right to dominate Germany? Got it.

>>512955647
>European nationalism is Jewish goy

>>512955562
>Exact lie
>UN report
So now the UN is secretly full of russians too?
You delusional faggots are not doing well lately

>>512955669
>settled
Your shitty CIA shouldn't have been in there. All of you fags should have been strung up.
You invaded, you paid the "protestors", but the last legally elected president didn't fuck up, and then your shit troops shot people including police force and then claimed it was le president.

>>512955612
You started both worlds wars. You would still be in the stone age without us.

>>512955734
no, France always waves the wh*te flag and they are part of Africa now

>>512955753
>European
LOL

>>512955789
false
you started them.
>you started ww2 while being occupied by mud military
lel

>>512955844
Then you're lucky we let you live. Either way, get on your knees and start sucking.

>>512955781
All you've got is obfuscation and lies and you know it. Good to know you think France has the right to March into Germany on a whim, though.

>>512955877
no, you are low IQ muds
and your genitals are mutilated and broken, hahahaa

>>512955812
France has nukes. You dont. Just do what they say, Hanski

>>512955889
>you can't say that
>the Ukrainian president shot his own police officers in front of the western press
>that makes sense to me
got a loisense for that retardation?

>>512955629
Pretty good attempted cover, just a poor child of Russian immigrants, just a russian living in America lmao

>>512949305
Lies!!! We invaded to exterminate vermins squatting on ancient tribal land and Herr Shelomova won't rest till every wh*te shit is turned into fertilizer!
From Volgograd to the Azov Sea, Khazaria will be free!!!!

>>512955933
no, France is part of Africa.

>>512955815
>slanty eyed mongol rape baby thinks he gets to pontificate about who is a Euro
Lel. Lmao

>>512955574
> Literall jew shilling for Russia

How shocking

>>512955933
Funny
Also
France has nukes and you dont.
I mean technically the UK has nukes but you dont have the codes

>>512956065
They're your neighbours. They've got nukes. You don't. They're your natural masters and you are the natural vassals

>>512956114
Do you believe everything on RT? Kek. What a fuckwit

>>512956194
no, Africa is not our neighbor
you are retarded

>>512956037
>cover
No my dad was here, tranny faggot. You really think your retarded accusations are convincing anyone here?
Everyone hates you nafo faggot shills, you stick out like a sore thumb.

You will never be a woman

>>512956102
Based Moishe
GAYTO literally backs Christian massacres in Syria
Seethe island-pedo

>>512955483
Trump is Zog first.

>>512956257
You know you're done, don't you? Hanged on your own petard.
Submit to your natural bosses and their sphere of influence.
Kek.

>>512955541
>muh CIA
like every dumb zigger you can only fall back on this retarded argument once you get blown the fuck out

>>512956357
no, we will murder your occupation squad and then bomb your shitty island
oh wait, your shitty island already got poop ruling over you, hahahahaha

>>512948685 (OP)
>Why start a war with Russia?
wow what a shill faggot you are. russia started the war. kys you disgusting pajeet.

>>512956401
Only if the French, your natural masters, say it's okay.
Kek
BTFO

>>512949038
this is a russian on a VPN. ignore this retarded narrative. literally everything he says is kremlin propaganda. if you chose to believe this idiocy, well you are fucking retarded.

>>512956457
no, Africa has nothing to do with us lol

>>512948685 (OP)
Revenge for porgroms Ukrainians did to Jews multiple times

>>512956436
all the proves is Russian were already sending FSB and military agents before 2017

>>512956248
Ah yes RT
I keep forgetting everyone who doesnt suck Zelenskys jewish cock is a russian in disguise.

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-trident-nuclear-program/

The UK does not even own its Trident missiles, but rather leases them from the United States. British subs must regularly visit the US Navy’s base at King’s Bay, Georgia, for maintenance or re-arming. And since Britain has no test site of its own, it tries out its weapons under US supervision at Cape Canaveral, off the Florida coast.

>If the US pulled the plug on the UK nuclear program, Trident would be immediately unable to fire, making the submarines little more than expensive, undersea follies.”

>>512949825
>You, shit for brains, are a nigger faggot shill and you should get off our board.
that's you, dumbfuck ivan moron.
>They constantly speak as though Russia is going to start invading europe
THEY HAVE ALREADY INVADED EUROPE YOU FUCKING RETARDED MORON. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD.

>>512956539
>CIA agents and a retarded whore
>Russian agents

>>512956524
>I'm only pretending to be retarded lol
Your nervous little laugh shows you for what you are
Absolutely intellectually smashed
Kek

>>512949038
Seems you pissed a few likes off, anon. Well said. Refreshing to read a common sense pol post. It's very rare to see these days.

>>512956615
>they
as always, the socialist pretends that someone else has been doing what they have been doing

I don't see Russian military bases here.
All I see is mud bases with shitty muds running around and being disgusting and fat.

>>512955779
You always lie the same exact way. You are either retarded and do not remember the same lies you said every previous day, or are lying like a russian. The UN report does not state what you say it does. It only states that russian terrorists attacked civilians. You lie and say it says Ukraine did it. You know you are lying but do it anyway. Why do you do this ad infinitum every day?

Next you will post the Amnesty International report screenshot and lie about its contents. You never deviate from your script.

>>512956628
>no arguments
I accept your concession :)

>>512956600
>random bullshit about something or other no-one is talking about
Kek. I accept your concession

>>512956618
Girkin already admitted Russia's entire game they played in Crimea that fact you vpn ziggers still to this day damage control online is funny

>>512955798
Ah yes, a twitter screenshot by a russian shill making shit up is proofs.

the absolute state of america and its proxy forces omfg

>>512956731
Submit, lowly German, to your French masters.
Your argument, not mine

>>512956789
yes, they admitted that they protected legal referendums in Crimea, after getting asked by the legal Crimean parliament
keep coping, you illegal occupier.

>>512956866
>no arguments
I accept your concession :)

>>512956916
I think the French should make their language compulsory in all German schools. It's their sphere of influence, plus the regions north of Alsace and Lorraine are historically German

Rarely have I seen ziggers so comprehensively fucked as ITT
Megakek

>>512948685 (OP)
If he says what he really thinks, it's just pathetic. The U.S. is led by an idiot who is so easily manipulated.

>>512951603
>It's the same bitter peace myth nonsense that pushed the NAZIs forward in 1933
Nazies were legitimately concerned with the USSR expansion. Like it was legitimately a 200M strong red ISIS at the European border. By 1933 holodomor already happened and Stalin used the money he got from robbing peasants to hire Americans to build his war infrastructure. The first move of dismantling the Versailles, Rhinelander remilitarisation, was taken after France signed a pact with the USSR, Hitler begged them not to do it but French newspapers refused to publish his pleas.

Point is, "le ebil NAZIEs" had about infinitely more justifications to expand, compared to pootins shithole empire of misery. Comparing Putin to Hitler is unfair to Hitler

>>512957310
Where as you're led by an autocratic mafia state. You should be as comfy as Norwegians. Personally, I'd prefer to elect an idiot every now and again, and we've had a few.

>>512953030
Even this pic shows that both sides are shelling. What's exactly your evidence that it's Ukraine who started, it makes infinitely more sense that Russia does artillery strikes, Ukraine responds.

>>512954218
>trust the same polls that said trump would lose in 2016 and 2024

>>512957062
>no arguments
I accept your concession :)
>France's native language
Afrikaans

>>512955815
Putin's problem is with the "neo nazi" part, not with the synagogue part

>>512957771
You might as well slope off, dickhead. Thoroughly btfo. You're a disgrace to lakhta

>>512957873
Sorry, I don't speak Afrikaans :)

>>512955734
In principle if they wanted to blow up all the international relationships for the sake of dominating Germany, they would have the right to do so, granted to them by nukes. That's just realising description, not a moral judgement.

>>512949038
Kek at the nafotroon seethe replies

>>512957829
Nope

>>512957199
/pol/ is healing

>>512957973
He's saying that Zelensky is a neo-nazi and him being Jewish doesn't contradict this. Russian problem is nazism, anon. Antifa state

>>512957954
And what an uncomfy world that would be. Poor old Holland, they wouldn't know how to behave to avoid being nuked by London or Paris.

>>512958095
well yeah
he forces the Ukrainian population to get themselves killed while trying to murder le Russians
that's literally what Hilter did.

BREAKING, PUTIN TO CONCEDE MOSCOW AND SAINT PETERSBURG TO USA AS PART OF THE UKRAINE DEAL

>>512956703
And you have told the same lies everytime faggot
Everyone can CLEARLY see the explosions on the Russian controlled territory to the east.

Its as clear as day and your delusional faggot propaganda cant change it.

>>512948685 (OP)
thats not trumps point
zelensky knows trump has no war powers
he only has mercenary power
trump also has no land authority here

and then theres this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FYtNQ8izM0

forensic proof of babyeating demons at the highest level

the whole system, all involved needs purging

its time to wake the fuck up

>>512957443
>Where as you're led by an autocratic mafia state.
I'm not happy about it. But when a mafia leader manipulates the U.S. president, it makes things much worse.

>>512949038
tpbp

>>512957954
> realistic
>>512958155
Yeah it wouldn't be nice but I also don't think that the modern principle that wars and conquest are never ever under any circumstances allowed is also not particularly constructive.

>>512957420
The Nazis were the ones most like ISIS. Everyone knows how they killed Kikes but they also raped and killed millions of Slavic villagers. Soviets did some revenge rapes at the end of the war but in most cases did not kill, and the rapes stopped after their troops returned to their bases.

>>512953652

Dont quote laws to men who have swords.

>>512958343
Very true. You seem like a functioning intellect; could you explain how Russians square Putin's $140k wage with his billions of wealth? What's the accepted cope?

>>512955107
>based aryan Nazis
Serving who?

>>512958199
>Putin concedes all of Russia to Ukraine
>next election
>Putin wins popular vote
>Putin now president of Ukraine

>>512957443
Lmao in UK you can't speak against immigration without getting arrested.

Not mention recent internet censorship laws.

>>512958368
>I also don't think that the modern principle that wars and conquest are never ever under any circumstances allowed is also not particularly constructive.
You've got to draw a line under history at some point. If France and Germany can manage it, given their history, I don't see why others can't

>>512958455
>they also raped and killed millions of Slavic villagers
utter fiction.

>>512954564
Can't take people seriously that can't write a sentence whitout mentioning trannies. You guys contractually obliged to use it at least once per sentence?

>>512949305
No Ukraine started this war by intentionally shelling and bombing kindergartens and schools full of children in Donbas.

So die in a hellfire, drop dead, get eaten alive from the inside by covid-zombie-prion disease and etc.

Fuck around and find out.

You should be praying to God that Switzerland doesn’t get annihilated for your snarky, smartass dipshit comment.

And there’s a million ways of that happening and millions of ways somebody won’t lift a finger about it except to block anyone else trying to do something about it.

UKRAINE STARTED THIS.

End of discussion.

Ahem.

The Ukrainian federal republic of Russia started this in their ill fated rebellion / uprising.

>>512949038
This is more or less true.

Ukraine was sort of created by Lenin and other jewish Bolsheviks as a "heavenly israel" by adding lands that belong to Poland, Hungary, Russia and Belarussia to it.

>>512958455
Lots of peasants died because of Russian scorched earth tactics and partisants stealing food. To the degree the "atrocities against russian villagers" existed, it was a response against NKVD guerilla warfare who intentionally blurred the line between civilians and combatants.

> Soviets were much nicer
Absolute inversion of reality

>>512948685 (OP)
Jews started the war in Ukraine to divert Russian resources away from the middle east (Syria) so Donmeh Jews from Turkey could depose Assad, for greater Israel.

The banker Jacob Schiff did something similar with Japan when he funded the Japanese in the Russo/Japanese war so the Bolsheviks could depose the Tzars.

And also to kill Gentiles.

>>512958596
That's guff, Shane. Anti-immigration is the default setting everywhere these days. What you can't do is incite violence, which has always been an offence.
As for the recent "Internet censorship", it's just boomers trying their hardest to stop kids accessing porn. Back handed, but hardly Russian tier, where you can't even get YouTube

>>512950000
>Russia is a terrorist nation
Russia didn't even target the government buildings in Kiev's center for 3.5 years
doesn't even have death penalty, unlike the likes of US and China
but it is a terrorist nation!
wow such high IQ

>>512955016
Muh tranny, muh ukraine lost. You guys seriously need to get some pussy. Maybe try out a tranny, you constantly talk about them. If it's always in your head you probably should fellow your inclinations.

>>512958623
Russians are neither French not Germans. On the one hand, Russians are nihilistic aggressive entity and it's good that it's being opposed. On the other, one doesn't have rights unless one can enforce them, this includes Ukrainian right to independence and borders.

>>512949038
Goddamn, look at all the NAFO shills butthurt at your post. Right on target

>>512959091
Surely it's fair that the wider international world gives them the means to defend their borders, then. After all, it's only the hand they extended to Russia during the last global major disagreement

>>512958989
Lol, why do you have to pretend it's better than it is. Yeah maybe you can speak against immigration with certain reservations but you can't speak against nonwhites. The standard of what is considered "inciting violence" for right wingers is also not the same as for the left.

>>512959091
Can Serbia have Kosovo back please?

>>512959257
Of course it's fair, having allies that send stuff is one of the aspects of country's powers.

>>512959314
They can if they are willing and able to fight international coalition that stations peacekeepers there. Which means no, they can't.

>>512959293
>why do you have to pretend it's better than it is
It's literally how it is. If I write a letter to The Times saying that immigration should end and people living here who have recently immigrated should be sent home, no goons are showing up at my door

>>512949038
>this mugging was provoked by being white in the hood
You'd scream bloody murder in this circumstance. It's the exact same shit, only Ukraine can't choose to just not walk around in the hood -- it's stuck in the biggest, blackest ghetto in the world: in Russia's putative "sphere of influence."

>>512956703
Where are the sanctions on Israel which is literally committing genocide?

>>512958916
A small little man who can finally feel big. Does anyone take you seriously in real life? Mutts are pathetic.

>>512948685 (OP)
Ukraine didnt start the war you fucking retard

>>512950000
wasted quads

>>512959514
Both Bongalongland and Straya sanction Israel

>>512959464
No, Kosovo is rightful Serbian land. It must be returned.

>>512954592
>they

That's exactly what I'm talking about. The "they" that was protesting was just a small sliver of the country, the elites.

It's similar to what happened in the UK with Brexit. The urban elites wanted to stay in the EU, and the rural lower classes wanted out. That's the same dynamic that happened and is happening in Ukraine, but the elite media doesn't report it because of course they want everyone to think everyone is on their side like the lying shits they are.

>>512959470
What if you distribute flyers saying "mass migration is white genocide"? What was Sam Melia jailed for

>>512959575
Um yes they did. Back in 2014.

>>512949038
Looks like they swarmed this thread. These people will spend their final days in a hospital bed dying from ass cancer and still seething about Russia.

>>512959464
That means West is illegally occupying rightful Serbian land. GIVE IT BACK NOW!

>>512959091
>aggressive
literally gave away its superpower status
forces Eastern Germany to get annexed by Western
destroyed missiles at 2-to-1 ratio with that of US
disarmed itself
disbanded Warsaw Pact and then moved its troops and bases from Eastern Germany and elsewhere in 1994
let 1/3 of its good territory secede, territory that had 20 millions Russians living and some of which was part of Russia for hundreds of years (e.g. South and East of Ukraine)
all while getting promised that NATO won't expand an inch east, that territory of Eastern Germany won't have military bases

what did Russia get in return?
bombardment and dismemberment of Russia's ally (Yugoslavia), NATO expansion just 8 years after end of Cold war, multiple colorful revolutions in Georgia, Ukraine, and then the inevitable and existential proxy war against Russia until last Ukrainian

and you dare say that Russia is the aggressor, fuckface?

>>512959575
Well maybe ukraine shouldnt have committed enviornmental terrorism by blowing up the canal to Crimea.

>>512951235
Of course he is that piece of garbage who ran the state department did Maidan coup for Obama

Possibly to cover up the f****** copy of the DNC server in Ukraine

>>512959830
The soviet union collapsed. Russia did nothing out of good will but because they had to.

>>512958515
The majority of the population understands that Putin is deeply corrupt. But there's no way people can change that. When you can't change something, you start to take it for granted and don't really think about it.

>>512960007
Yeah exactly, people underestimate the degree of collapse of the Soviet economy.

>>512951586
This now that the deals are in place for the US to rape Europe with high priced energy Trump is going to meet with Pootin in Alaska and end the war. That's why Trump is temporarily clamping down on crime in DC and clearing out the homeless camps. For the big ceremony of all the world leaders to come to America and declare Trump peacemaker of the century.
Screencap this

>>512959823
>>512959641
Let it go

>>512958916
>>512958252
What are the odds of two American flags repeating the same exact kremlin lies to the same poster?

>>512955798
>if you try to join the military pact of "countries that do not want to be invaded by russia" we will invade you

>>512960007
NATO got millions of Ukrainians killed. Thanks a lot.

Under Russian sphere, they would have been poor but peaceful.

>>512949038
>all those shill responses
might as well add in that the ukrainian coup occured contemporarily with the bullshit in syria and all the same shabbos were involved with that.

>>512960007
USSR still existed de facto and de jure when they forced Eastern Germany to get annexed by Western Germany and disbanded Warsaw Pact
dumbass

in fact, de jure USSR should still exist, because the people that disbanded it had no legal authority to do so

>>512959511
They could've remained neutral, just like it was stated in their declaration of independence. They could even join EU. They could've not tease about fleet removal from Crimea. But they fucked around.

>>512960160
>>512960343
>>512960007
And Gorbachev, the guy who tried to reform USSR until hardliners tried to coup him and instead collapsed the whole thing, is such an exception in Russian history and currently is portrayed as the worst ever russian leader in history by the modern Russian culture

>>512959830
>what did Russia get in return?
The freedom for its oligarchs to consolidate power, extract wealth, and generally just rape Russians. That's Russia's fault, not ours. If Russia has a problem with the results of its own decisions, maybe it should enact change at home instead of invading its neighbors. If elites finally realize they have throatfucked Russian civilians into a krokodil-flavored dystopia of colorless commie blocks, child prostitutes, and corrugated shack poverty... maybe they should consider buying a few less yachts and implementing some social programs.

Or I guess you could just fucking invade Ukraine if you truly have nothing even close to a human subdivision left in your twisted, blackened little heart.

>>512960250
Are you retarded?

Russia invaded Ukriane because West staged a coup to overthrow their rightful government and install a puppet.

>>512950705
>Of course John Smith from New Jersey oblast. Poles would also love Russia if CNN didn't brainwash us all, because obviously we have no mind and reason and our own history.
>saying that nato is using you as a pawn means you would necessarily love russia without nato
why is it that retards can only think in dichotomy?

>>512960160
>Yeah exactly, people underestimate the degree of collapse of the Soviet economy.
USSR produced like 25% of the world's industrial goods
you think China was a lot richer than USSR in 1990?
you think North Korea has a lot of money while facing UN security council sanctions?
yet, they did not collapse
interesting, right?

the only reason USSR collapsed was because those in charge were weak, lost confidence and let it collapse
some naive fools did because they believed the confrontation was ideological, not geopolitical
others did it for power and money (like those 4 that signed the Belovezha accords)

>>512948685 (OP)
Zelensky is a bolshevik mass murder and should be tried for genocide.

>>512960393
You could've respected Ukrainian souveregnity but instead you got 14-1-ed

>>512959091
>aggressive entity
think mirror
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/08/11/german-chancellor-merz-organizes-emergency-eu-summit-to-strategize-how-to-keep-war-going-if-putin-trump-reach-peace-agreement/
German Chancellor Merz Organizes Emergency EU Summit to Strategize How to Keep War Going if Putin/Trump Reach Peace Agreement

German Chancellor (((Friedrich Merz))) quickly organizes a meeting between (((EU))) leaders and the (((U.K))) to figure out how the keep the war going.

>>512959705
Inciting racial hatred and encouraging racially-aggravated criminal damage. Because not all his stickers said just that alone. Come on, you seem like a good lad. Don't be cherry picking.

>>512960529
Lmao American president is a pedo and is covering up for other pedos. Bit rich of you to insult other country's government.

>>512954753
>Well you get to successfully expand your borders
They still havent taken over that little strip despite unconditional support from their golems

>>512960572
Can Serbia have Kosovo back please? It's their land stolen by the West.

>>512951603
>pic
fun fact: if you dig into that you will find that same mugshot used in a dozen news stories about odd crimes. And then one story about drug distribution.

There are several other examples: a story about a guy who was attacked by a bobcat in his garage in Connecticut, same guy same story but also in illinois, and a handful of other states, and also some stories about him having sex with an alligator.

none of these things actually happened.

>>512960668
I'll get started on Trump when I'm well and ready to get started on Trump -- not a moment before. I have more than enough hatred to spread around, don't you worry.

>>512960133
Thanks for getting back to me. Is there no hope for a popular groundswell? I'm kind of a Russophile, and it strikes me that you are a people that is capable of recognising and fighting injustice.

>>512960615
There is no cherry picking.
The UK is disgusting and we're gonna give off on it as much as we like over here on /pol/ - politically incorrect.
Get dabbed on Angloid.

>>512948685 (OP)
trump is retarded jewish slave who acts like russian slave to cover for his handlers

>>512960529
They were the oligarchs installed by US you absolute nigger.

>>512960562
> the only reason USSR collapsed was because those in charge were weak, lost confidence and let it collapse
Due to unsolvable problems they themselves created. This kind of "party elite was too weak, they lost our glorious red empire" russian narrative, like I said, ignores the scale of soviet economic collapse

>>512960796
It's always someone else's fault, isn't it? You just cannot take responsibility. You're a deeply fucking pathetic people.

>>512960393
And you would still have invaded them regardless. You niggers can't go against your nature.

>>512948685 (OP)
Why would we want the war to stop? Former soviets are killing each other and the EU is buying our weapons which helps our military industrial complex. Maybe Trump just wants Russia to think we want to end this war for optic reasons, but there isn't a good reasons for us to stop the war.

>>512960843
Meanwhile Epstein files are still not released.

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICA! KEK.

>>512958944
Those are the same lies that Kikes use in Gaza.
Soviets were obviously not trying to wipe people out as all East Euro countries had their largest populations in 1991.

>>512960924
Yeah. You're not wrong. The Epstein files still aren't released. You want to know whose fault that is? America's. Americans got conned by a fucking con man and they should have known better. See how easy that is?

>>512960826
USSR had a self-sustained economy, retard

>>512960877
Nigga Europeans have been killing each for thousands of years. Are you dumb?

Germany has the highest kill count

>>512960843
>russia stronk and powerful
>also everything bad happening to russia is cia's and nato's and the west's fault

>>512960843
Bit rich coming from a country that elected Donald fucking Truml as president.

>>512961033
And now they are balkanized and at war with itself. Makes you think what is really going on.

>>512960615
Criminal damage in question mean putting sticker though

>>512961080
West definitely staged a coup in Ukraine.

Everything was peace before then

>>512960205
You keep calling the UN report a lie
Everyone can see you are full of shit.

>>512960826
>Due to unsolvable problems they themselves created. This kind of "party elite was too weak, they lost our glorious red empire" russian narrative, like I said, ignores the scale of soviet economic collapse
The main problem of the USSR was Ukraine, but now it is a European problem lol. Try to solve it

>>512961080
To be fair our CIA did balkanized the Soviet Union and got them to start a proxy war with the intention of killing as many former Soviets as possible.

>>512960615
The whole situation where "inciting racial hatred" is not protected speech and you can only oppose "immigration" but never "nonwhite immigrants" is such a sick joke

>>512960760
Nigga, American government is literally covering up for pedos

And UK is a censorship hell.

>>512960914
The US is spending a lot of money to help Ukraine. Trump doesn't like that cuz he's a cheapskate. However when the war ends not only do we stop spending money, the US starts collecting money from the 'minerals deal'. Plus all of Wall Street can in and start making money on the rebuilding effort.
Europoors it time to end the war

>>512961245
You keep lying about the contents of the UN report. Also you keep lying about what you just lied about. It doesn't get more russian than you.

>>512961427
In Ukraine, nothing has been destroyed to the point that there is much to rebuild and make a lot of profit from.

>>512961265
USSR literally founded Ukrainian SSR
there was no such country before USSR
not only that, they took South and East of current Ukraine from Russian Empire and attached it to the newly formed republic
then they attached Western Ukraine as a result of WW2 and later gifted Crimea
then they actively were developing Ukrainian language and culture
created vast industry and electrical grid
and gave independence (under condition of neutrality)

nobody else did so much for Ukrainian state as Russia, and they let the West get control over their territory and be turned into anti-Russia
I'll let you draw your own conclusions and lessons learned

>>512960537
we are not the ones dying right now you just seethe because we criticize your shithole

>>512961726
If the Ukraine wasn't a proper country before this special needs shitshow, it is now. Birthed in blood and fire.

>>512961903
Meanwhile russia is collapsing and cease to exist as a country lel.

>>512961726
>nobody else did so much for Ukrainian state as Russia, and they let the West get control over their territory and be turned into anti-Russia
Yes, and this was the main problem of the USSR. The waste of huge amounts of resources on this hole and the attempt to make an industrial country out of them bankrupted the USSR.

>>512961427
>The US is spending a lot of money to help Ukraine. Trump doesn't like that cuz he's a cheapskate
this isn't about money
money cannot buy unlimited number of troops, ammo, weapons if there are not enough factories in the world to produce them
it takes time and massive investments to ramp up this production, but still won't solve problem of lack of man power

the problem for team Trump is that Russia has the ability to destroy both US and Europe with nuclear weapons
that the conflict has long escalated to unheard of levels, as even during Cold War no USSR or American cities were being attacked, nor was the nuclear triad
Putin has shown an incredible restraint and patience, as if giving US a chance to fix this mess in the face of Trump
that and the fact that Russia is winning, and it is a matter time until Ukrainian front collapses
both of these things is what is making US change its stance: the lost proxy war and the very real existential threat to US mainland over what was a big part of Russia just 30 years ago

>>512960760
There are many different people in Russia. Some of them are intimidated and demoralized. Some are satisfied with everything and believes the propaganda. Many people don't think about politics at all. There is no consensus in society, no alternative leaders.

I don't know what can change to create a kind of consensus and a groundswell. Maybe a complete collapse of the economy, but at this stage it is unrealistic even with increased sanctions.

>>512962025
>Ukraine was a waste of huge amounts of resources and the attempt to make an industrial country out of them bankrupted the USSR.
So, naturally, you want it back.

>>512961469
Anyone can look at the map faggot. Its clear which side was shelled.
Everyone knows you are paid to come here and lie faggot.

>>512962240
Well, I wish you well, desu.

>>512962242
Nobody want it back, retard. Russia has already received far more territory than it needed.Russia was ready to give up Kherson and the Zaporizhia region until it became clear that Ukraine would fight to the last hohol

>>512962430
I wished the other Ivan well. I hope you get your legs blown off in a damp ditch.

>>512962172
also to Russia this proxy war was inevitable and more importantly existential
Russia is all in in this
while it is not existential for US, who is the architect and the main wheels behind the conflict

>>512961903
oh, yes, border closed on day 1
thousands of videos such as webm related on the internet showing people being caught by draft officers like dogs and sent to front with minimal training
... I guess a proper country if you are a satan worshiper that wants human sacrifices
in reality, this conflict has elements of civil war, as it was a big part of Russia that was just turned into anti-Russia by the cynics that control your countries under the curtains

>>512962577
>you want Russia to collapse? you are good Russian!

>>512962609
Every country enforces its draft in an existential crisis.

>>512962172

They have the ability to hit all the population centers maybe so stop threatening me with a good time

>>512962747
He didn't say that and neither did I. You're the worst type of unthinking scum there is.

>>512951000
They are white. That's why mutts hate them.