Thread 512951426

It's settled, time to give up meat, not just for your health, but for the health of the planet

>>512951426 (OP)
Cool. Let's start with the largest demographic groups and go from there. I'll stop eating meat after the jeets, chinks and niggers stop.

>>512951426 (OP)
Can I eat fish ?

>>512951426 (OP)
I just bought 4 Tomahawk as i wrote this, nigger.

>>512951550
Jeets eat poo
Chinks eat bugs
Niggers eat dick

>>512951426 (OP)
>Apocalypse cult doubling down on cult bullshit
How entirely unsurprising.

>>512951576
only catfish and eels, kike

>>512951426 (OP)
No

Most healthier people already slashed red meat out of their diets. Sure I'll get a burger here or there and I'm not going to turn down a steak dinner. Yet day to day? Mostly chicken with a mix of pork, fish etc..
Anyone still casually huffing down red meat as their primary protein source is just ignoring decades of science at this point. We all know it's not good for us.

>>512951997
zased and balancedpilled, this is the way, white man

>>512951997
>beef bad
>pork and chicken good
We're reaching levels of midwit that shouldn't be possible

>>512951426 (OP)

Fuck Harvard.

The further the diet advice is from steak and eggs the more likely it is to be bullshit.

>>512951997
actually its because you idiots eat high processed carbohydrates along side your red meat protein that causes your body to regulate your collesterol wrongly.

>>512953129
Fuck viva, always read the authors names . It's always a thot with these retarded takes. Red meat is very good for men.

We live in a clown world look past the fancy names and qualifications and realise the person whose writing it.

>>512951426 (OP)
Processed red meat. You morons

>>512951426 (OP)
Not sure if it was this one but there was a """study""" done on this and the "meat eaters" they surveyed was largely people eating fast food, seed oil fries and all. Then they went to claim that soft drinks were less likely to cause diabetes than red meat, but then lumped in sugar-free drinks on the soft-drink side.

I just looked at this video, and they, of course, lump all meat in together. So to them a grass-finished ribeye is meat just the same as a highly processed piece of bologna. No meat eater would ever consider those the same though.

Third: it's Harvard, they're corrupt, bought and paid for. They can sell their name when people really want to add "credibility" to their claim.

Lastly: every study ever is, or can be, flawed. You literally can't trust anything. If you do it's just your confirmation bias showing. I can find you a ton of studies showing how healthy meat is. Then I can find another dozen saying how horrible it is. They'll completely contradict each other.

So what do? Trust your gut at the end of the day. Does it make sense in your head? Do you go to bed worrying about it? Is everything copacetic in your mind? Great. Listen to your body, we're all different anyway. What works for me, a white Texan male may not necessarily work just as well for some Filipino chick.

Yes, at the end of the day all the broad, generalized, specialized, studies done by institutions, even done with the highest of integrity and absolutely not compromised doesn't even mean it necessarily applies to you anyway.

We're headed to an era of complete uncertainty anyway. Even today it's difficult to know what to believe at all and AI is obfuscating it to the point that you can't even try to understand. The only thing you can believe is God and your gut. Simple as.

>>512951426 (OP)
I will NEVER give up the wednesday steak or the sunday roast. i'd rather die.

>>512951997
>Most healthier people already slashed red meat out of their diets
I'm healthier than you and eat red meat every day.

>>512951426 (OP)
V33ganism will fail like it always does, no matter how much the government pushes the diet on its slaves.

>>512951426 (OP)
>Harvard
Could you give us a real name. Harvard doesn't eat.

>>512957661
John Harvard

>>512951997
Eat some liver, faggot. Maybe you'll start producing a bit of T for once in your life.

>>512951426 (OP)
Harvard just needs to fuck off already.

>>512951426 (OP)
I'll never give up meat.
If they ban meat eating I'll become a cannibal serial killer. I am a carnivore and I will eat meat. It's my destiny to eat the meat. Everything tastes better when it died suffering and then burned.

>>512957094
Wow, a smart American
Pretty rare these days, no offence

>>512951675
*Niggers eat each other (monkeys inc.)

>>512951426 (OP)
I won't stop eating meat until all the rich people and politicians stop first

>>512951426 (OP)
DAFUQ Harvard gon do?

>>512951426 (OP)
Oh really? Harvard said that, did they? Or was it just the rantings of a leftoid kike professor? I love animals, they're delicious.

>>512951426 (OP)
highest hew acceptance in all colleges kek

>>512951426 (OP)
good thing I don't plan on living forever

>>512951426 (OP)
>It's settled, time to give up
on thinking that Harvard has an opinion worth listening to?
I agree.

>>512951426 (OP)
I just hear cola is healthier than i thought

>>512952707
I don't want my children to suffer and it's a moral choice to give them the best

>>512951426 (OP)
Can't believe I lived to see Harvard become Rutgers tier, but they wanted diversity so now they face the consequences of being worse than a state school and national joke.

>>512954086
expert texpert choking smoker don't you think the joker laughs at you ...

If the rich want me to stop eating meat then we have to eat the rich. Long pork is back on the menu. Oligarch flesh makes the best bacon.

>>512951997
this is retarded cope. yes, vegetables are good for you. yes, fruit is better than a baked dessert. no, red meat isn’t bad for you, it’s that you’re choking it down next to dogshit sugar sauces and too much bread, you fat piece of shit.

you centrist assholes who bought in on the food pyramid are just as bad as the “shelf stable foods high in carbs and trans fats” operatives who lobbied that unscientific horseshit into existence

>>512951426 (OP)
Take the meat and I start eating plutocrats simple as

>>512958706
Plants are unhealthy. Meat is healthy. Meat is our natural evolutionary food source. We evolved eating 80% animal foods specifically meat. "Studies" like this are manufactured to provide justifications to regimes already intent on destroying the food supply because meat isn't profitable.

This whole thread is so fucking ignorant and kiked it's unreal.

>>512958706
>vegetables are good for you
most aren't

>>512951426 (OP)
>studies say
>the science is settled
You will not turn me into herbivorous cattle, you will not defang me, you will not separate me from my inner ferality

>>512951997
Good self own here, you’re not considered healthy by your own standards fucking dumbass. Already know you’re retarded enough to think pork isn’t a red meat cause it’s lightly colored.

>>512958706
Eating styles should be dictated by lifestyles.
Active and working out? 30/60/10 PCF
Sedentary? 30/20/50 PCF
simple as

>>512957094
>there was a """study""" done on this and the "meat eaters" they surveyed was largely people eating fast food, seed oil fries and all
That's literally all of the studies on the effect of red meat. There hasn't been a single study yet, that focused on people eating fresh, non-ultraprocessed meat.

>>512959043
They are also terrible for the environment. Most take an absurd amount of water, fertilizer(made from petroleum), and pesticides to grow.

>>512951426 (OP)
Harvard makes Lawyers not Doctors

>>512951426 (OP)
You will take my ribeye steak, baked spud and coca cola from my cold dead hands jewnigger.

>>512959226
They make Dr. Fauci's

>>512959218
Oh no not WATeR!! What will we ever do when it evaporates and reenters the atmosphere!!!

>>512958840
>80% animal foods specifically meat.
Lemme guess you got this from a “study”? Or you happen to have a caveman you interviewed?

Harvard = jews
everyone knows this ffs

the elite want the poor / working class (also poor) eating bugs and living in cuck sheds with 12 colored roomates

>>512954385
Funny they only call pork red meat when it's actually processed into sausages, and then they dont headline it as processed but just red meat.
>fucking kikes

>>512959547
It also has to do with factory farming. If the truth about meat was readily out there, the demand would go up even more, putting that much more strain on the factory farming system. It's probably best if undesirables think that meat is unhealthy, but it's hard for me to be that evil.

>>512953219
Cholesterol isn't the problem. The problem is damaged arteries using cholesterol as a repair matrix when usually collagen is suppose to be doing that. If you didn't have cholesterol, you'd die from your arteries leaking blood as the damage gets bigger and bigger.

You want to find out why, one, why are your arteries being damaged, and two, why isn't your body using a collagen matrix to heal the damage

>>512951426 (OP)
Harvard should be the first to stop eating steaks then.

>>512954026
So you eat beef yourself?

>>512951997
Selection bias. "healthy" minded people read that red meat is bad, stop eating it. Healthy minded people are also more active, outside more, watch their calories, have more social groups, are generally more happy with life. None of those have anything to do with red meat, but the correlation means that it gives the impression that "red meat is bad".

SPECIFICALLY, what about red meat is bad? Chemically, what harm does it do to your body? Sat fat? Why doesn't France have heart issues when they are one of the highest consumers of sat fats? Why does Isreal have high rates of heart disease when their diet is high in PUFA's, and not sat fats?

>>512951426 (OP)
they can fuck themselves. make me a steak today

>>512959444
The incontrovertible proof is food bio-availability. Meat is completely bio-available complete nutrition. Plants have terrible bio-availability and are very far from complete.
With any species you can know with certainty to what foods it is adapted by looking at the nutrient bioavailability profile of its foods. Pandas for example are NOT adapted to eating bamboo all day, it is one reason for their near-extinction.
So that's the most simple way to understand it, without needing to go down sTuDieS rabbit holes.

With regards to anatomy, we have the stomach pH of a carnivore, our gut is drastically adapted towards carnivory from the omnivorous baseline of the primates from which we evolved, ie we have a very short colon which is where hindgut fermentation would take place in a more omnivorous species like an ape. These facts also, are self-evident without needing to invoke any studies.

Modern plants are all man-made. There is not a single fruit or veg in a supermarket that has not been engineered, in most cases wildly from their original form. This is because wild plants are almost inedible sacks of fibre. In these natural forms, plants contain very little carbohydrates for humans, the little we can digest fibre, bacteria turns it into saturated fat, not sugar. Our ability to make saturated fat from fibre was an evolved survival mechanism demonstrated by the fact that we are really inefficient at it and animal foods are a far more efficient source of saturated fats.

If you actually want to go into the stable isotope testing of bones, it's pretty clear that early humans were carnivorous, and by carnivorous I mean the majority of calories came from animals. I don't know why this would be any sort of shock as there's no evidence to the contrary, and it is hardly surprising that people living in the pleistocene (a vast ice age) would eat like how modern food due in arctic climates almost entirely carnivorous.

>>512951426 (OP)
It’s cause people get a juicy steak then dunk it in butter and salt

>butter is better than seed oils

Yes but people eat a whole stick of butter for one steak

>>512951675
Hey racist, niggers make bug and dirt cakes too

>>512951426 (OP)
That's because Harvard can't cook.

>>512951426 (OP)
Harvard also said the vax DOES cause heart problems and cancer. Their "science" is fake and can't be trusted

>>512951426 (OP)
Oh Harvard says it? Like President Garber issued the proclamation? Or was it a no-name postdoc who works in a tiny affiliated lab off campus in the Alston complex?

>>512951997
>cuts out ruminant meat
>day to day chicken: highly likely in abhorrently unhealthy conditions surrounded in their own shit
>day to day pork: eats anything, rolls in shit
>day to day fish: even wild caught is subject to mercury, heavy metals, and unmapped pollution poisoning
Life's a zero-sum game and that means it's in my interest to encourage your idiotic choices.

>>512951426 (OP)

>"Experts" tell people to replace red meat and butter with seed oils and refined carbs in the 1970's
>Obesity, diabetes and heart disease skyrocket
>Food corpos profit margins skyrocket
>Big pharma sells lots of new drugs for all these chronic health problems
>Heh, just a coincidence goy

>>512958655
Asbestos is a great insulator though. It's unmatched.

>>512960839
>With any species you can know with certainty to what foods it is adapted by looking at the nutrient bioavailability profile of its foods. Pandas for example are NOT adapted to eating bamboo all day, it is one reason for their near-extinction.

Any sentence after this is nonsensical since you completely voided your argument with your panda example.

So if we looked at Pandas you would assume they eat anything besides Bamboo due to its poor bioavailability but in reality they only eat bamboo.

how would we trust any bioavailability example you give since you just showed it doesn’t correlate to actual diet? And I’m suppose to believe you know what a caveman ate 14,000 yrs ago when you can’t even make sense of pandas

Show me the study where one of these college retards replaces all meat in his diet with soda and he's healthier for it.

>>512957614
>I'm healthier than you
I highly doubt that.. I've never needed to see a doctor for anything in my entire life but stitches. I've crashed out from the gym grind now due to wagie cagie issues eating up my time. Yet I easily I over head pressed 185+ for reps and (on a good day) benched 400+. I'm sure I'd need a year to get that back but it's comical to even suggest better over all health than my near god tier genetics. I still have a resting pulse under 60 for god sake lol. Due to cycling so much.

>>512958706
>who bought in on the food pyramid
I didn't push the food pyramid.. Just called out the BS that some how a red meat diet is good for a person when it's proven everywhere to not be. The only people still pushing it is beef lobbyist types.

>>512959127
>pork
sigh... I know that but you're splitting words here being when they say cut down on red meat you know damn well they mean processed shit like hotdogs and lunch meat slices. Along with charred beef.. Holy shit this is why I'm so damn tired of /pol/.
Most of you clearly have no college at all, never mind a degree. Yet will pop off endlessly based only off vague shit your GED level brain kind of remembers from social media. Quick now call me a tranny and post something from your 2TB collection of tranny pics you conveniently keep for some... reason.

>>512951426 (OP)
imagine wanting to reach 120 in this clownworld

>>512962045

>you know they meant ….
I know you meant that pork was a white meat when it’s not

>like hotdogs, deli meat
You do know both of these are available as pork or beef?

>none of you have college degree
Yeah you included bud you didn’t know pork was a red meat.

>>512951997
I eat all meat because I ain't no faggot

>had a steak and cold coke for lunch today
Jews mad

>>512951426 (OP)
>See, consumer? Junk food is healthier than red meat!
Big Mac trying to trick me again

>>512957094
This. Exactly. The entire idea that "red meat" (i.e, mammalian meat) is per se harmful to an omnivore is on its face preposterous. Yet this is the conclusion of almost all such "studies".

Also, cui bono?

>>512962045
What an annoying faggot larper you are. First off, I actually did have a ridiculously healthy cardio system when I was younger and my RHR was under 40. Under 60 is barely better than normal.

Second, if you had gotten the numbers in your faggoty little Larp correct, nobody who bikes or runs enough for a RHR under 40 can bench 400+ lbs.

>be objectively wrong
>ugh like u no even college
I’d literally pick a fight with you irl. Shut the fuck up and kill yourself

>>512951426 (OP)
someone needs to explain to harvard that semen isn't vegan

>>512951997
>Most healthier people
You mean the fat dyke shopping at Trader Joe's? LMAO

>>512951550
if i can't have meat, i'll start eating billionaires

>>512962045
>the video misrepresented them
Then why doesn't it have a little cuck box below the video explaining it is misinformation?
I have always hated leftists who can't memorize ten fucking ions acting like they are scientific experts and trying to silence people like me who HAS A FUCKING PHD IN BIOCHEMISTRY.
And the rest of the country is sick of it too. Elon is right about x being better for content than youtube because community notes are better than the council of betas, faggots and karens.

>>512951426 (OP)
Where did Harvard say that. I can't find anything on this except some Twitter shit that said Harvard said that but I can't find any study at all

I'm guessing whatever study they try to use to back this up just shows that eating a steak (particularly one that's grain+onions-fed, pumped with hormones, ate pesticides) every single day is worse than drinking a small coke every day. Just also eat things other than meat, don't eat meat every meal of the day, and diversify your meats themselves, and you'll be fine.

>>512954385
All processed food is unhealthy.
And all food in America is processed, both meats AND veggies.

I already only eat meat once a week. It honestly makes it better - a rare treat. No cured or smoked meat either, and no abominable factory-farmed meat. Local farmer's market meat.

you guys realize cholesterol is good for you and not carbs?

>>512965284
no

>>512951426 (OP)
Ever watch 90 year old Jerry Lewis eating plates of sausages for breakfast on Comedians in Cars?

>>512951426 (OP)

my nigga. The sun could overheat and extinguish life tomorrow, and all I'd do is set up a pan on the sidewalk and BBQ while the rest of you assholes melt around me.

>>512951426 (OP)
Harvard is always pushing globohomo jewish agenda. It's one of the centers for jews. Also due to DEI it's worse than most state schools now.

>>512967396
And he died in 2017, makes you think

>>512951426 (OP)
How about we enforce 1 child rule in africa and india. That would do more for the planet than any of these unhinged ”scientific” suggestions.

>>512951426 (OP)
Harvard is shit lmao!

>>512951426 (OP)
You mean the college that lets niggers in for writing clever rap songs?
Yes, I sure trust those niggers!

>>512967513
Based

>>512961570
Eggs is better than all of these.
The only ingredient worth buying top quality.