Thread 512959709

>What Bessent is saying is that the US will now treat US allies' wealth as an American "sovereign wealth fund" (his words), "directing" them, "largely at the [US] president's discretion", how to use their money in order to build American factories and reshore American industries.

https://x.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1955575252324433977

>>512959709 (OP)
Europeans get what they deserve. They voted for it, and will continue to vote for it.

>>512959709 (OP)
I don’t care, never happening anyway, it is all jist words

>>512959709 (OP)
>they depend on their exploiter for military "protection"
Against who?? The US are the ones who attacked our gaz supply by bombing Nord Stream II.

>>512960635
Against Russia.

No matter how bad Daddy America humiliates you with soft power, it's nothing compared to getting repeatedly defeated in wars of aggression against Russia.

Nord Stream is nothing compared to when when Russia defeated Napoleon and captured Paris, or when the Red Army crushed the Wehrmacht and liberated Europe.

Sucking 6 million circumcised american dicks is a small price to pay for the chance to thumb your nose at pootin.

>>512961099
>Against Russia.
Russia is not an enemy of my country, of Italy of any actual European country that matters (aka western Europe).

It's fine enough, but just so everyone is clear: the US can just create the money it needs for any of this stuff. It doesn't need to take it or skim it from anywhere else.

If you're going to use it solely and specifically for productive infrastructure that will increase the supply of goods and services -- that is exactly what printing money should be for.

>>512961757
fucking lmao

>>512959709 (OP)
You can't accuse a former colony of colonialism against its former colonizer. That's like reverse racism, geopolitical bigot chud.

>>512961356
That's just your opinion, and it has nothing to do with the sentiments and actions of Europe.

You are out of touch.

Your countrymen and elected representatives categorically disagree with you.

>>512959709 (OP)
Why don't you do something about it, faggots?

>>512959709 (OP)
If the actual quote is so fucking important, why not post it free of parsing.

>>512959832
We don't actually, most of the EU institutions you can't influence with voting, only like one out of six or seven don't remember. But even if we could vote it wouldn't matter at all, people who still believe voting matters should be discriminated against.

Whats the point of having an empire if you cant squeeze your vssal states for extra revenue?
nothing out of the ordinary

>>512959709 (OP)
The NATO countries need to wall off and work internally to make tech and pharmaceuticals.
It’s also, sadly, impossible to manufacture in Europe in the current regulatory environment which means Canada and the US are best options.

>>512959709 (OP)
OP is a chink who always posts twitter screencaps of this racemixer chink shill that lives in china

>>512960635
you're about to find out

>>512962168
AfD is now officially the biggest party in germany (in polls) and most of europe has already flipped or is just about to flip
suddenly north america will be completely alone in the world
best of all is republicans signal push these parties and make it happen faster
the people of europe know who the real enemy is

>>512961099
>OP “allies,” it is critical you understand how massive of a faggot OP is.

>OP loves cocks, OP wants nothing more than the cock of “ Daddy America” (his words) in his “soft” (his words) anus.

This might be the most conclusive proof we’ve ever had that OP is a massive faggot.

>>512959709 (OP)
US destroyed Japan, now its EU turn.

>>512962906
AfD will be banned. Eu gave up on pretending to uphold democratic principes.

>>512959709 (OP)
sounds like its time for Europe to have its own tea party.... maybe a coca cola party or somethin...

>>512962906
Right wing Germans chose a coal burning lesbian to be their savior. It's even more embarrassing than Italy and Meloni.

AfD is campaigning on a 1 issue policy, and 80% of Germans their anti immigration stance.

>>512959709 (OP)
We gave one-sided trade deals to our so-called allies and we paid for their defense. Now we're broke and the charity has to end.

>>512963091
You russians simply do not understand how things work in free societies.

>>512963948
Sure, havent seen one so far. EU is worse than USSR, Russia is liberal haven in comparison.

>>512959832
Wait until you find out who voted for and elected Ursula von der Leyen

>>512959832
We didn't vote for any of this. The EU is literally the capitalist equivalent of the Soviet Union run by German globalists and other shabbos goyim.

>>512960635
N-no that was someone else

>>512959709 (OP)
yurocucks are just slave's slaves

>>512959709 (OP)
Oh really, now it's an outrage when it's being done to them.

>>512961356
You’re right but the CSIS nigger is gonna tell you you’re wrong because the Epstein list politicians are gonna bend over on your behalf

>>512962906
>Kosher right
Sweet summer child

>>512964100
Burkina Faso has more competent and respectable leaders leaders than Europe.

>>512964435
Putler's greatest soldiers
up there with Agent Z

>>512964435
To be fair Canada is in the same boat, and how are Americans benefiting from the billions in tariffs; all the stats suggest they're not

>>512959709 (OP)
Oh hey ameristan is now open about EU being their vassal states.

>>512961757

>It's fine enough, but just so everyone is clear: the US can just create the money it needs for any of this stuff. It doesn't need to take it or skim it from anywhere else.

That's true until the Bond market says otherwise. Japan stopped Trump in his tracks a few months ago because they threatened to dump US treasuries.

Interest rate on financing US debt goes up, America is forced into reducing spending, recession kicks in.

The funny money shit only works so far as your foreign creditors are willing to play ball.

>>512962168
>elected representatives
Ask me how I know you're a stupid faggot

>>512961099
Russia isn't my enemy you fucking hohol I don't care if they exterminate your village it isn't my problem.

>>512959709 (OP)
Oh shit? So we're actually gonna be doing what we've been accused of by these faggots for years? Count me in.

>>512959709 (OP)
Maybe you fags should have treated your "colonies" better.

And you shitstains wonder why India and MENA are coming for euros. You assholes have been living the good life for almost a millennia now.

That time is over, and you owe interest.

>>512962216
You think this is sustainable long term? You're just delaying the inevitable and dragging us down with you.

>>512965289
Europe was doing fine until you faggots landed in Normandy.
Eat shit.

>>512965448
Yeah it was.
But that was then, and this is now.

>>512965448
Uh no. Europe was doing fine until ww1.

Who's gonna lead humanity progress if europe falls? The chinks? The pajeets? Niggers? Yeah right lol. If europe falls so does all of humanity.

>>512959709 (OP)
Just accept it struggling only makes it hurt more. Enjoy the few years you have left before the invaders take over and declare sharia law

>>512964871
>That's true enough until the Bond market says otherwise.
The bond market doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if nobody buys bonds -- the government doesn't need to borrow money. It doesn't need its own money unit from the population. It creates its own money every time it spends.

Selling bonds is not a borrowing operation. It is part of monetary policy to drain excess reserves (or add them in the case of open market purchases) in order to support an interest rate target. But of course the central bank is a monopoly -- it can set the interest rate wherever it wants anyway, regardless of anything else.

So if nobody wanted to buy bonds, all that would happen is that reserves would pile up in the banking system and naturally drive the interest rate to zero. It's not a real problem.

>>512959709 (OP)
Europe Canada Japan Mexico have all extracted billions of dollars of wealth from americans through the decimation of our manufacturing industry while also benefitting from the US security umbrella. The US is allowed to look out for itself. As much of a kike ball licker trump is this is one area that I agree with when it comes to foreign policy.

>>512965541
My idiot great grandfathers gen signed that Marshall Plan shit. So yeah, this is now. Damn
>>512965668
And Hitler took that personally

>>512965695
What the fuck are you leading right now pastanigger? Somali refugee boat gathering? Pride parades? Fag marriages in protestant churches? Drug legalization? Pedophilia rights? Muslim breeding? What the FUCK are you the leader of pastanigger? You're america's condom.

>>512965922
Security from what? You only create danger for them and stir conflicts in the regions. A basic racketeer.

Your claims of US presence doing anything for good evaporated the moment you coudntt deal with Houthis. For hundred years US claimed it has bases to protect shipping, yet the moment it actually mattered you ran tail.

You faggots wanted a counter to the globohomo order. You wanted a happening. You called down the thunder. Well, you've got it.
And now you have to choose whether you will bow to marxism or turn from it.

>>512959709 (OP)
the golem turns on itself

>>512965899

You're fundamentally retarded and there's no point in arguing with you.

>>512966159
kek. fucking embarrassing. Euroshits are going backwards, can't even copy stuff that was mastered 75 years ago.

>>512965323
Listen, if we didn't steal all your industrial wealth it would've been sold off to the Chinese for a few more years of boomer/nafri healthcare.
Or did you seriously think you could run smelters off windmills?

>>512966431
No. I am describing actual reality. You are playing along with a fiction.

Where does Japan get the money to buy bonds? Do they use yen to buy them? No, they use US dollars. Where do US dollars come from? The US prints them out of thin air (much like Japan creates yen out of thin air). Japan acquires these dollars created out of thin air when it trades goods and services to the US (or to anyone else who wants to pay in US dollars).

Japan then moves these US dollars from a reserve account at the Fed to a securities account at the Treasury -- in the exact same way you would move money from a checking to a savings account. That's what is actually happening.

The idea that the US, who manufactures dollars, would need to "acquire" dollars from someone else is laughably absurd. Stop and listen to yourself.

>>512959709 (OP)
Occupiers declare their 80 years and counting occupation official
>le surprised face

the US can get away with this, because nobody can challenge it, europe is fucking weak and depends on the US, it's a humiliating century for the EU

>>512964435
And Zimbabwe has a better space program than the entire EU (except France)

>>512966246
>Security from what? You only create danger for them and stir conflicts in the regions. A basic racketeer.
hilarious coming from that flag
>For hundred years US claimed it has bases to protect shipping
show me a single example, lying drunk sack of shit

>>512961099
when has russia ever attacked the west in the last 100 years?

>>512967554
>get awat with
You are a ungrateful welfare bum
We let europe charge us tarrifs to help you rebuild after WW2 and you niggers refused to repeal them 80 years later.

>>512959709 (OP)
Based, fuck everywhere in the world except Japan.

>>512963479
Nice goalpost shifting, discount anglokike

>>512967781
All of Western Europe is mad because they repeatedly attacked Russia, from Sweeden in the 1700's, France in the 1800's, and Germany + the axis in the 1900's, and got their buccis torn in the process.

They will never forgive Russia for that, and will spread cheeks for America just for spite.

>>512967554
US isn't getting away with this dumbass

>>512963948
They literally shut down the elections in an EU member state because they didn't like the results. You are delusional.

>>512959709 (OP)
Don’t care. get fucked.

>>512965221
You've been doing it all this time, now you're just finally admitting it. Nothing is actually changing.

>>512959709 (OP)
Foreigners finally realizing that the continued prosperity and even existence of their "sovereign" nation depends entirely on whether or not it is in America's best interests.
AMERICANS ARE YOUR GODS

>>512963948
I'd like to see one of these free societies one day.

>>512968162
Yeah and it's worth remembering this: The only people that bombed a european country recently was America & their nato allies, in 1999, just 21 years ago, specifically targeting civilian infrastructure.

>>512959709 (OP)
where's my billions you jewish faggots, you want me to make more pretty white golems innit?

>>512968336
LOL, who are you to tell this? the US controls the world, it can do anything it pleases

>>512967792
i am not ungrateful or whatever, i'm just saying that the EU is weak and will do nothing, but abide like always post-WW2

>>512959832
What do you think about Indra, Rama, Agni, and Vishnu being White?

>>512968942
Just develop nuclear weapons, it's the whole reason, a country without nukes isn't a free country.

>>512969051
like france and the UK? both weak countries that can't do anything without the US?

I hate MAGA's take on managed decline already. Bring back Sleepy Joe, holy shit

>>512959709 (OP)
>structure the entirety of post-war Europe as an American colonial state
>treat it that way for 80 years
>the US (and its Israeli handlers) finally decide to overtly manage the money instead of doing it via backroom deals which they were doing anyway
>WOOOOAH COLONIALISM THE GLOBAL SOUTH BROS WE'RE COLLAPSING WE'RE STEALING FROM OUR ALLIES WOOOOAHHH NOOOO

Fucking NOTHINGBURGER. We were already doing this the entire fucking time since 1945, except it went through a few extra jewish hands to reach our treasury, Trump is literally just streamlining the system that already exists. We siphon the currency from other countries, wreck their fiscal policy, print money here, and give it all to jewish bankers & corporations. Now we're just doing it above board with less people to skim off the top in transit.

Why are people mad about this when the deal ursula agreed to said that euros would invest $600B in the US. Thats what bessent is referring to. If euros want to back out of the deal and break it, thats an issue. They agreed to $600B in investments

>>512959709 (OP)
manifest destiny always has been the case
american hegemony was and is always priority #1

>>512968631
Kissinger is for certain the greatest saboteur this world has ever seen.

>>512969534
>ursula
has no mandate to make decisions on behalf of a continent, now she's finding that out

>>512959709 (OP)
>EUROPE IS DEFENSELESS REEEEE

No, Europe just didn't anticipate its mutually beneficial relationship with the US being so utterly demonized and ruined by the orange retard.
We didn't think the US would literally support Russia in a war of aggression on EU borders of all fucking things, we didn't think he'd launch a trade war against the whole fucking world either.
Just because the EU hasn't cut 100% of its trade ties with the US overnight doesn't mean that there isn't going to be a strong pushback against US reliance over the next 10 years or more citing these dangerous times as the reason.

Less US software, less US imports, less US influence will certainly happen across the board after this total fuckup of an administration.
Europe has made definitive moves

>>512959709 (OP)
So he wants to take Klaus Schwab's job?

>>512960140
two more SPD/Grüne regulations for the safety of milk, lmao.

>>512969637
>on behalf of a continent
Does she have a mandate to make decisions on behalf of member nations in the EU?

>>512966786
>Or did you seriously think you could run smelters off windmills?
Europoors can't into heavy industry. Look at Britain's metallurgical industry. It doesn't exist. They can't even produce steel. Even Jeets can make steel.

>>512969817
>mutually beneficial
How did the United States benefit? You do know we can make our own cheese, right?

>>512970025
>Does she have a mandate to make decisions on behalf of member nations in the EU?
The EEA, is basically the continent at this point, because they've been adding shit holes to it for decades. So we are talking about continents. As for the mandate her title is "President of the European Commission", do you know who elected her? Who voted for her? How is she able to make decisions for a continent? I don't know. If member states are dragged into the EEA by hook or by crook, without a referendum, does she really have any mandate to make decisions that impact them? I don't think so. So if they're telling her to fuck off, you can hardly blame them can you

>>512970811
Doesn't American cheese mog europoor cheese in international cheese competitions? I think it happens with wine too.
Europeans are boomer coded, living in the past and resting on their irrelevant laurels.

>>512959709 (OP)
I don't really understand why so much of Europe was desperate to come under Jewish control after WW2. The UK had already been rinsed dry by the kikes so it was just business as usual for us but the rest of Europe willingly chose it in many cases. The EU really sealed the fate of Europe, an unaccountable, unelected bunch of chosen ones just destroying European sovereignty at every opportunity.
What the Americans did with Nordstream should have been a clear enough message to Europeans that they were being exploited and destroyed but they didn't bat an eyelid. Many of them are over the moon about it.

>>512970872
I cant blame them. I just dont really understand how the EU works or how ceremonial Ursulas role is. If she doesnt have the authority to make that agreement, then who does in the EU? The EU parliament?

>>512968717
And also giving their so called allies cancer in the process

>>512971763
>then who does in the EU?
Queen Kaja

>>512965323
Was that not obvious to everyone with the GFC in 2008 and again with COVID in 2019 and the Ukraine war in 2022?
They sold our banks their nigger mortgage debt, then released a bioweapon and shut down our businesses and then blew up European energy supplies.

America are the fucking enemy.

Reality has never been more clear

>>512966302
Are niggers, muzzies, and jeets still In Europe? Well then nothing has changed, really.

>>512972098
Bruh I shitpost, but if you think that the US is the one that released the kung flu, or that the UK wasn't similarly responsible for Euromaidan, you are deluding yourself.

>>512959832
Is there anything worse than "voted for it" losers? Shut the fuck up.

>>512972303
The reality: less than 1% of (((Americans))) own their goycattle, including you, as their personal pets. And they are hungry for more. Europe is a shadow of itself, America has always been a joke.

Haven't seen it as much ITT as on other occasions, but Europeans seem to have this idea that they've been perfect, model allies this whole time and that all of this came out of nowhere. Americans have been biting their tongue on disputes with Europe for decades. Europeans took this as license to do what they wanted, which caused resentment to fester.

The USA is the perfect golem designed to extract wealth from Europeans everywhere in the world, including White Americans, and finally enslave them. No one will be free until it dies.

>>512974018
The blatant gangsterism and cannibalism is not a good sign for the empire. I'm seeing more signs of desperation than of strength. The U.S. asked Moscow to meet and not the other way around. Israel only lasted twelve days against Iran. China is still sitting pretty chuffed about it all and so is North Korea. Dicey times for the empire my friend.

>>512962906
I hope so germ bro, I hope so. Is it actually discussed in Europe how isreal controls the US? Because I speak with international kids all the time and every Indian and Asian kid I talk to agrees that Isreal is in control of my countries foreign policy

>>512959832
They didn't vote for it but they didn't vote against it. Complacency is tacit surrender.

>>512960635
it all really is hilariously straightforward, all you need to do to secure a bright future for Europe is deport fen tens of millions and ally with China

>>512974698
>hurr durr you didn't vote against
We did and then there's the fact USAID ran networks of NGOs for years subverting us and working against Nationalist and for woke leftists.

Literally the only thing that can save Europe is fascism. Are you faggots gonna do it or continue being faggot pussies getting pushed around the the USA and getting raped by Muslims and niggers?
You can just do things.
Like how Trump is rounding up niggers and putting them in jail.

>>512974846
You 'vote' by projecting power. Reality: geopolitics doesn't matter. Europe has deluded itself into thinking it's a 'humanitarian superpower'. Your governments are filled with safetyist grandmas who believe hugs can cause world peace. Norms don't matter. The only thing that matters in the world is raw strength. If you project weakness, then you get stomped on.

>>512959709 (OP)
Yuros are getting turned into literal serfs.

The world is in their era of strong men and Europe is run by elderly women.

>I have a gun, do what I say
>B-but don't you know that's illegal!?
>Get in the pit, whore

Women just do not understand strength or power. They have been coddled by post WWII peacetime and thing "abstract rights" are divined by God. Actually we can just shoot you.

>>512959709 (OP)
based, the rest of the world will exist to subsidize my tendies

>>512959709 (OP)
Isn’t Bessent a literal faggot?

>>512975199
>You 'vote' by projecting power
>moving the goalposts
Please, stop, that's a different conversation than the post I replied to. Going forward at least say, 'hey, man, I know you did but it's time for real talk.'
> Your governments are filled with safetyist grandmas who believe hugs can cause world peace
Buddy, please, spare me will you. You did the same to us as you did Ukraine and umpteen other countries. If it were in the U.S.'s interests for us to have nationalists in power then we'd have nationalists in power. If it's it in the U.S.'s interest for us to have trannies in power then guess who is going to be in power.

>>512974341
What would even be the point of sending them more money? So they can throw it at niggers, spics and Jews? They haven't fixed their internal issues since Trumpton took office, their cities are still fucked and Trump thinks that niggers built America.

You might as well burn the money than send it to that Jewish pyramid scheme.

>>512975448
not that I can't understand some schadenfreude in this case, but try to remember that over the past few years hundreds of thousands of your countrymen were killed and maimed, as they were killing and maiming a nation so close you speak ~one language, all a direct consequence of american actions
but a little glazing from them and you beam with pride and cheer
is this really what you are

>>512974882
>Literally the only thing that can save Europe is fascism.
A nationalist scenario would likely shatter the union, there are few realistic scenarios in which Europe maintains any relevant power in the next century.

>>512970025
She actually doesn't.
Any deal Urschi makes has to go back to the CoE and EP for approval.
Ursula then doesn't even have the powers of a plenipotentiary.

>>512977023
>they were killing and maiming a nation so close you speak ~one language, all a direct consequence of american actions
That's the only way for them to learn. They need to feel the depth of american betrayal in full measure. Their gods sacrificed the very special, prepped piggy who thought it was a favorite pet. It might be harsh, but no other explanation would work.

>>512973650
>Europeans seem to have this idea that they’ve been perfect, model allies this whole time
>perfect, model allies
NATO consists of some countries in America and some countries in Europe, so why do you call NATO “Europeans”?

>>512976703
>You might as well burn the money than send it to that Jewish pyramid scheme.
kek
May as well just send it straight to israel and cut out the burger middlemen.

>>512977419
>it was INEVITABLE
monke made a retarded decision goaded by amermuttoids, buried hundreds of thousands, knocked you out of the ranks of live players (I know, I know, muh nooks, spare me), all to achieve literally nothing of use, and you still type shit like this, just pure cuckoldry
the alternative was not going to war, the coming of the "multipolar" world inevitable anyway due to the rise of China

All that money will go to Israel.

>>512977491
Because I'm talking about more than defense spending.

>>512960635
why dont you just weld in a new section of pipe?

>>512959709 (OP)
> Normalize seize Russia's assets
> 5 years later

>>512968717
1999 was 26 years ago

>>512959709 (OP)
It was recently pointed put to me that every trade deal Trump has done has not been official.
Famously when Obama did the Iran deal it was criticized for not being official because official trade deals require national governments of the dealing nations to vote on it and agree to a binding contract that has penalties under their own laws.
Because Iran wasn't one, Trump could throw it out without direct repercussions.
With all of the Trump deals not official, not only could the next President just throw them out, but any country involved could smell weakness and just decide to stop participating without any penalties.

>>512959709 (OP)
Lmaooo America hasn't been in a weaker position since the 19th century, precisely because you keep acting like histrionic faggots & making investors weary, so whilst we're all economically intertwined, you'll get your handshakes & snide smiles, but the entire world is slipping like sand between your fingers at this point & good riddance. What you are just seeing the beginning of, is a major recalibration of global ties & assets, moving out of America, as a unipolar world, becomes a multipolar one.
Congrats, you did it to yourselves. :)

>>512959709 (OP)
All of these companies/countries were already investing in the US before Trump because it makes them money

>>512978681
>not only could the next President just throw them out,
kek
That's not happening, wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which fills up first.

>>512970025
Nope, she can't make any unilateral deals and wouldn't even be capable of enforcing anything seriously, just look at Hungary for an example.

>>512978381
You’re NOT talking about defense spending, but about allies and for unknown reasons you call the NATO members “Europeans” - why?

>>512969637
>now she's finding that out
2 weeks before the EUrsula humiliation, she got away with the vax pfizer texts corruption investigation. Thanks to free west liberal democracy she will stay in power until 29

>>512959709 (OP)
>factories industries
Impossible. All the money invested in america gets sucked up by financial institutions.

>>512959709 (OP)
This Jewish mafia standover bullshit doesn't work on us, this fucked up Trump regime can go fuck itself. We have already shifted our alliance to Asia, the Japanese are signing defence contracts with everyone in favor of the USA. Everyone knows it all comes crashing down in the USA in a couple of years, Trump is unlikely to serve out his full term so most nations are just telling him what he wants to hear and signing nothing.