Thread 512967628

This shits cheap...

>>512967628 (OP)
>This shits cheap...
but kacap lives are cheaper

I know right. It worked in the Predator movies.

>>512967628 (OP)

Because it would be more humane.

>>512967628 (OP)
If Slavs cared about lives they wouldn't be Slavs

>>512967628 (OP)
>>512968049

Nvm...

Read this as, why don't infantry just fight each other with net guns.

>>512967628 (OP)
I'm surprised they haven't simply trained falcons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IkiBTI4E9Q

>Net drone
>Because it's a shitty net meant for hunting it's like 4 meters away so it keeps moving towards you due to momentum
>Explodes
Wow, good plan.

>>512967930

I know right!!!

Buy honestly... These poor fuckers are running in circles for 20 minutes before fertilizing

Give them at least a chance

>>512967628 (OP)
Necessary for building my cervine harem

>>512968272
You know that if you can shoot a slow ass drone you can also dodge it at least once, right?

>>512968272
Oh please...the rotors trapped would at the very least point a shaped charge in a different direction

>>512967628 (OP)
If they did, fewer white men would die.
This is the answer to any question that isn’t sufficiently answered by
>jews

>>512968558
So they start loading them with conventional explosives and omnidirectional shrapnel instead.

>>512968855
I dunno man then get heavier weights and netting - you only have to push back what? ... A 3 kilo payload and a 3 kilo drone traveling at at what? Max 50kmh?

Not exactly the kinetic energy of a speeding shell

>>512969251
The thing is that the more the payload increases, the more speed, autonomy and to a lesser extent even precision decrease

>>512967628 (OP)
Do you mean shoot nets at drones or shoot nets from drones to capture enemies?

>>512970115

The first although the latter would be pretty fucking hilarious ...

Unless after the net the drone still went on to explode ...

I'm not sure how I feel about that one

>>512967628 (OP)
You think either side wants to preserve life? It’s basically just jewish led slaughter of Slavs rabbi schneerson who many chabad jews think was a messiah wanted to kill the Slavs off

>>512967628 (OP)
Drone operators aren't retarded, the net thing will work maybe once or twice but after that they are going to start trying to bait it out and dodge it.

What they need is a 1.5 inch smooth bore shotty custom loaded with what would be slightly heavier than bridshot. They need to be able to load ~16 rounds into a magazine so when the drones come they can just raise it up and tak-tak-tak-tak at the drone until it eats shit. The operator then simply swaps a magazine, and goes right back to it. Give it a longish barrel so it stays tight out to ~25 m

It should be a simple, stupid easy system so any poor fuck can scoop one up and at least *try* to make a run for his money, fuck sake.

>>512967628 (OP)
Actually saw a vid of a Marine making a large stick with a net at the end of it, it would pretty much get tangled with the drone, and so it would explode a few feet further away from you so it increases your odds of surviving.

>>512967628 (OP)

You'd obviously do best if using some low powered launcher grenade projectile (or large shotgun shell so to speak) and release the net on proximity with the target. Would work best with an advanced automated targeting system (so you do not have to cram a proxy fuse into your otherwise cheap projectile... unless there are reliable dirt cheap ones).

I'm serious about this >>512968267

They couldn't rig the drone for self-destruction when attacked, because they could never be sure that the change in position wasn't due to winds. Meanwhile, the falcon could hit and fly away from the drone before they knew what hit it; and the drone, once toppled by the bird, will be hitting the ground either way.

>>512971085
Yes.

>>512967930
>>512967880
>>512967628 (OP)
>Pro tip: the deer doesn't explode the second anything touches it, and it's actively running away from you, not trying to charge you from a surprise location 5 feet away

>>512971103
Agreed 1000% Like a semi auto sawed off shotgun...every squad should have one dude.

Likely more expensive...

Look neither is going to solve the problem but at least maybe less poor fuckers running in circles.

>>512971244
Checked

>>512971308

Greenpeace frowns on your proposal anon

>>512967628 (OP)
There where already small handheld web-launchers that were designed for police use. About the size of a tazer. Iirc they werent all that expensive nor complicated.

>>512967628 (OP)
would work on suicide drones,
the aerial dropping of munitions wouldn't work

>>512973299

How about 2 drones, one a decoy to distract, the other to sneak-up behind

>>512967930
It's working in the advertisement OP posted. That's good enough for me.

>>512972722

Thx. Should still compare if shrapnel would not be more effective. Idea with the net is that you could cover a larger cone with the same projectile weight and guaranteeing a kill for those with flimsy quad propellers.

>>512973517
Fucken deer

>>512967628 (OP)
Why should go back to training pigeons and falcons, and have said avian pals engage the drones in hit and run tactics

>>512967628 (OP)
Jammers
Jammers
Jammers

>>512975319
Also nice option...

What I would do on this front is make an Omni channel fucking jammer grenade...like 8463672847385873 volt watt amperes that blasts for 30 seconds like imagine emptying an entire 20,000 milliamp battery in 30 seconds on ALL CHANNELS all frequencies... Like a virtual emp... Willmit be health for the soldier? No... Does it beat getting reshaped... probably

>>512968121
War should be fought with paintball guns and if you get hit you're not allowed back in.

>>512975319
Have you been living in a barrel for the past 4 years? They are using drones with optical cables - you can't jam that.

>>512967628 (OP)
Birdshot in a large capacity magazine fed shotgun would probably work better.

>>512975894
Look I'm just saying of we're going for entertainment value...
I'm not so sure about these drones mane

>>512976129
Who can blame him he got into the barrel during covid

>>512975319
This guy --> >>512976129 is right.
They have jammers.
And they send in a drone and the guy with the jammer smashes the JAM ALL button because they have no idea what freq the drone is on.
Congratulations - you just painted yourself
Then they send in a fiber optic drone to bomb the jammer guy
Then follow up with a bunch of regular drones
They have drones that lay in wait and play dead - operating on minmimal power - and when it senses vibration or sound or whatever it "wakes up"
We had a version of this back during Desert Storm and that was 35 years ago.
Hit their airfields with hundreds of little dronelets that would lay there, play dead and listen
If it sensed the vibration of a helicopter, it would get up and 'walk' to the target on little legs and then detonate
Jammers are effective, but they require power and you just can't paint the entire countryside with high freq jamming signals

>>512976731
So we need!!!

DRONE MINES !!!

>>512975319
jammers dont work on fiber optic cables which is what these drones are using. They are not depending on radio.

>>512968331
Sex?

>>512968267
>breeds high pedigree good strong falcon
>spends I don't know much time and money it costs to train a falcon
>falcon succeeds! It caught the drone
>blows up
>time to get a new falcon and start over

>>512967628 (OP)
well they still got fucking high explosives strapped to them. so unless its a rly heavy net and/or the delivery device has enough force to knock it far away from you, youre still probably getting fucked up

>>512977290
>high explosives
Their payload typically isn't that great, limited weightcarrying capacity and need for range and autonomy limit it

>>512967628 (OP)
why get that when old fishing nets loaded into a shotgun work just as well against drones?

>>512968272
maybe if we add a capsule polyurethane (PU) foam at the center of net that release the foam and nebulized water when the net is shot, so not only does the net catch the drone, but the chemical reaction would cause mass expansion of the foam which is a perfect electrical insulator and would inder the electrical circuit on the drone to come into contact. that would reduce the chace of the drone to blow off despite holding momentum. crazy idea but better than nothing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nu373hN400

>>512978184
depending on how theyre loaded up, its usually more than enough to blow your fucking face off if youre too close to it

>>512979142

Raytheon is patenting this as we speak

>>512979142
I was thinking something larger.
Like a belt fed shotgun - even a dual auto shotgun.
The M2 Browning is just an enlarged 30 cal Browning.
Same design could be used to dual mount them and feed from left and right respectively
I mean, we've been making this for 100 years it's not like we don't know how. Use a disintegrating link.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if you slaved it to a small radar and/or had it home in on the sound of the drone
Like the robot sentries from Aliens. They could be passive - just wait for the sound of a drone and BRRRT

>>512967628 (OP)
Range too short, probably not accurate enough, and most of all single shot. But something like bolas (lead pellets linked by thin steel wires) could be useful since it would improve the hit probability. You're not trying to catch the drone but to disable it. Just put several of these wired pellets in a single shell. Not sure if it would be much better than birdshot, it would need testing.

>>512968331
/k/ degenerate

>>512971103
That's already in the works. The problem is that large shotgun mags (either drum or straight) aren't super reliable. And even in Russia, mag fed semi auto shotguns like the Saiga 12 are far from being ubiquitous. Idk if they plan to ramp up the production. Shotguns are the infantry equivalent of the phalanx btw, last resort before lights out.

>>512968267
Too much work involved.

>>512976731
Yeah sleeping drones are a fucking nightmare, even worse than landmines. Pic rel.

You can find a billion WW-II videos and stills of machine gunners manually shooting down aircraft that move up to 600+ mph 1000's of feet off the ground down to ground level. Now we have radar that can do it. Shit the fucking B29 had a radar guided fire control solution. You mean not one of the dumb fucks in modern warfare can put a mini radar guided AA gun on a tank? Not a Slavic shithead in the whole world can pull lead on a moving target? They fucking sit there or they run... in a straight line. You know the fucking drone goes faster than you can run bro. What the fuck happened to a platoon with interlocking fields of fire on a target? What happened to breaking pattern? This shit is fucking dumb and if you can't shoot a weapon a net isn't going to help you.

>>512967628 (OP)
because you usually only have around 3-4 seconds at most to switch to your net shot
and even if you do, you are still going to have to deal with a bomb flying in your direction anyway

>>512976129
Fiber optic cable drone way less maneuverable.
Jammer weeds out 90% of drones.
Yes jam all. Also I'd bet if you pulse a jammer when the drone disconnects it dosnt auto reconnect to the remote.

>>512981288
Checked. Optical tracking is certainly doable, especially using IR or thermals, and the range would be good enough against drones. But that solution is not expensive enough for the American MIC, and the Russian MIC is not good enough at electronics to be able to do this for cheap.

>>512981459
yeah don't try at all
just better to curl in a ball and cry

>>512967628 (OP)
Why dont they just make small autonomous suicide drones that can just fly into them?

>>512983660
better to not be in that situation in the first place.

>>512968331
Sem...pai... why are you touching me there?