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Day: 1,267 – Daily assessment: https://isw.pub/UkraineConflictUpdatesISW

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>The Institute for the Study of War assessed that the coming days will be decisive in the battles for Pokrovsk and Dobropillia
>The White House confirmed that the Trump–Putin meeting will take place in Anchorage, Alaska, on 15 August, focusing on the war in Ukraine, sanctions on Russia, and potential security guarantees
>Each Ukrainian brigade will now receive 7 million hryvnias per battalion to purchase drones and other critical frontline equipment
>Over 110,000 Russian troops have been concentrated on the Pokrovsk axis, advancing in small infantry and sabotage groups; several were destroyed, others repelled by Ukrainian defences
>Leaders of 26 EU countries signed a joint declaration of support for Ukraine ahead of the Trump–Putin talks; Hungary’s Prime Minister Viktor Orbán refused to sign
>Switzerland expanded sanctions against Russia in line with the EU’s 18th package, lowering the oil price cap to $47.60 per barrel and freezing assets of 14 individuals and 41 entities
>The Moscow Times reported that Russia’s government will urgently meet oil companies as fuel prices have surged nearly 50% since January, partly due to Ukrainian drone strikes
>BBC reported that North Korea is sending workers to Russian military factories under conditions resembling forced labour, working 18-hour days without leaving the premises
>For every 1 company that opens in Russia, 1.5 companies close

▶Telegram
https://rentry.org/telosint2023
https://t.me/ukr_pics

▶Intel
https://t.me/DeepStateEN
https://odin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)
https://ukr.warspotting.net (visually-confirmed losses)

▶Maps
https://deepstatemap.live/en
https://liveuamap.com/en

▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)
TOUR 1: files.catbox.moe/34fuhc.txt
TOUR 2: files.catbox.moe/uj2wut.txt
TOUR 3: files.catbox.moe/hmyd98.txt
TOUR 4: files.catbox.moe/cdenxe.txt

russians be like:
>pee pee poo poo

tzd

Soon.

Ziggers be like "xaxaxa 14:1 has no PROOFS! in 2 more weeks Washington oblast will be a communist colony!"

AND BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT UKRAINE

THROW BEEHIVES INTO ZIGGER HOLES

>trump offers futher aid for ukraine in exchange for rare minerals
>trump wants to offer putin rare minerals to russia in exchange for ceasefire
huh?

The other night I had a nightmare that Russian soldiers busted into my home and dragged out my wife's and daughter's boyfriends (who are both black). Then Putin personally lynched both of them in my own backyard.

I woke up screaming and drenched in sweat. Woke everyone up actually. It was a horrible dream, but it could become our reality if Putler isn't stopped.

>>512986756
why does your pic show terrorist goatfuckers and/or shitskins in heaven?

>>512986832
>whore on the left was russian
hello saar

Donald Trump is ______________________

>>512986818
>the american dream
>literally

Did they snip the snail antennae?

TZD

TZD

>>512986890
..in epstein files

before its memoryholed LMAO

>>512986920
>>512986954
npc

>>512986890
... going to save Russia

>>512986832
Funny part is that you don't have to shoop anything in the /chug/ version.

>>512986920
it is not caturday yet anon
this much kitposting is illegal

Captcha: JHHAD

>beige is scatposting again
Seems like he's a bit mad that his retarded reverse psychology last thread didn't work out as intended lmao

>>512987032
You can't stop me

>>512986871
It should also have Ngo Dinh Diem.

>>512986988
Man, I don't even know what to tell you, it looks like the entire Ukrainian military just disintegrated immediately on contact

>>512986904
Seems like this is currently happening, yes. No official info or geolocated footage yet, but ziggers aren't flexing with their super duper breakthrough anymore and there's lots of rumors that they are getting fucked up there as we speak.

>>512987032
>>512987121
oh now you did it

>>512987052
>scatposting
now he posts his skin color without anyone requesting..
kek.

>>512986807
thats a classic

>>512986807
what a gemerald

>>512987121
>>512987178
oh no

>>512986807
>it was a sting operation

>>512986807
I feel bad for the bees. That was their home...

>>512986988
DEJA VU

>>512986988
its been very quiet compared to a few days ago.
>>512987012
>>512987052
all of brownies posts are gone.

Statement by the First Corps Azov of the National Guard of Ukraine

As a result of actions undertaken by the First Corps Azov of the National Guard of Ukraine and its subordinate and adjacent units, the enemy has suffered significant losses.

Over the past 48 hours of combat, 151 invaders have been eliminated within the corps' area of responsibility, and more than 70 have been wounded. In addition, eight Russian service members have been taken prisoner.

The operation is ongoing. Actions in the vicinity of settlements within the area of responsibility of the Azov Corps and the Donetsk Operational-Tactical Group have been planned and are currently being implemented.

>>512987603
>all of brownies posts are gone.
Would be too funny when he actually was banned for avatar use because of his retarded "they won't post my face if I constantly do it myself"-masterplan last thread lmao

>>512987387
oh good heavens!

>>512987603
>brownies
im beige

>>512988029
and a bad liar.

>>512987604
Godspeed brothers, keep sending meat to the cube.

HAHAHA the madman went full retard

>>512987984
do you have the strategic battle kit? i can't find the picture. i swear i have saved it somewhere.

>>512988239
>then, you should sort your pics by
>cat-egory
>carlos.jpg

you need to go back to the middle east, bieger. /uhg/ is for whites only

>>512988326
it's way too many at this point.

>>512988501
no. pictures of cats (or zigger corpses) can never be too many.

>>512988364
Why did your side let him into Sweden?

>im beige
no

>>512988591
that's why i hoard them like some dragon.
and dragons aren't known for tidily sorting their hoard.

>>512988029
Why do you never post my hands. Oh right it wouldn't fit your faggy narrative would it aaron

>>512988598
Better question: Why is he on your side?

>>512988239
of course, my good man

>>512988748
based
thank you

>>512988857
hey NP, enjoy

how can 14:1 be fake when even such different people as trump and zelenskyy can agree on it?? think about it logically

is azob saving potrovsk guys?

unintentional sage

>>512988719
Don't know, don't care. I'm like 80% sure he's one of your sock puppets anyway.

>>512989206
No such thing

>>512989173
maybe

>>512989280
>Beige is one of your sock puppets reeeeee!
my dude, that nigger has been a lolcow on /int/ long before this general was a thing.

>>512989064
>think about it logically

Is being russian the ultimate cuckoldry?

I cannot think or comprehend of anything more cucked than having a being a russian Honestly, think about it rationally. You are feeding, clothing, raising and rearing a pidor for at least 18 years solely so he can go and get ravaged by a drone. All the hard work you put into your beautiful little ivan - reading him stories at bedtime, making him go to sports practice, making sure he had a healthy diet, educating him, playing with him. All of it has one simple result: his body is more enjoyable for the men that will eventually fuck him in every hole.

Raised the perfect ivan? Great. Who benefits? If you're lucky, a random officer who had nothing to do with the way he grew up, who conscripts him. He gets to fuck his tight bussy every night. He gets the benefits of his gay and submissive personality that came from the way you raised him.

As a russian who has a son, you are LITERALLY dedicating at least 20 years of your life simply to raise a boy for another man to enjoy. It is the ULTIMATE AND FINAL cuck. Think about it logically

>>512989680
Okay, so now explain why the west imports so many brown ziggers. Shouldn't that be a major security concern?

>>512989399
wdym? apparently it saved from previous post in another thread

>>512990197
Typing "sage" in the name field doesn't do anything.

>>512990347
typing zigger faggotry in the comment field doesn't do anything either, yet you keep doing it.

>>512990063
LMAO, outstanding

>>512990450
kek

>>512989680
>/uhg/ retard calling anyone a lolcow
imagine spending years posting and editing this face and it's not even someone who posts here

>>512990063
kek. tzd

>>512990634
>it's not even someone who posts here
Lmao nice try Beigie.

>>512990790
stupid fentanyl zombie

Checked and meme'd, sir

Henlo frens,
I know you guys are interested in front and war and stuff like that so you should definitely check this thread :

>>512985138

You may no know but the New Delhi front is falling and we need all the shitposters available. Thank you and MIPA.

>>512990634
sorry, we don't differentiate between niggers.
the picture shows a nigger, and you are one too.

>>512990962
nigger anon, is it true that your phone still shows that pic with the screen turned off?

>>512986988
KEK

>>512990063
makes sense to me

>>622995374
Checked and meme'd, sir

What if Putin agrees to take land that is currently occupied by Russia, nothing more not an inch.

Will zelensky accept that?

>>512991475
That would still mean Russia would have to "give up" territory (i.e. territory Russia claims but doesn't control) that Putin already signed into the country's constitution.

>>512991475
You should ask him

>>512986774
>14:1 death ratio is neither of those. Not proven and cannot logically be explained how it happened.

This is the most nasal thread I've ever been in, should have called it /nose happening general/

Pyrolyze ziggers

As a young MAGA male I can say from first-hand experience that Nick Fuentes now has a greater cultural influence on the 20-40 age range than Trump does.

Fuentes is in every group chat.

You might not like him but this is the reality. He’s resonating.

>>512992730
wrong thread nevermind, meant to post in ptg

>>512992730
uhg is populated by globohomo cultist who pretend to like hitler. no one here watches Fuerntes, they watch Rachel Maddow.

>>512992625
janitor pay should be doubled!!

>>512992975
it do be like that

>>512986649 (OP)

When will the pigkraine stop losing?

Did they ban Beige again? lol.

Damn did our favorite beige zigger get jannied? I haven't even seen him in months

>>512993610
>Did they ban Beige again?
No but Oreos are still an enemy of the state

>>512994477
>I haven't even seen him in months
He's kinda active lately. His new masterplan to stop people from making fun of him is to post beige memes himself and being all like "Would I post these pictures if it was me in them? See, it's not me!", accompanied by his usual scat spam lmao

I wonder what happened to the beigeman

>>512995391
Ye I am here still

1. Go back in time
2. Kill baby Will Smith in eutero
3. Baby Will Smith solidifies into lithopaedion
4. Surgically remove the lithopaedion
5. Return to present
6. Sand the lithopaedion into a cylindrical shape
7. Rape putin to death with the lithopaedion dildo

>>512995391
solar panel scientists kidnapped him, as his nigger skin is currently the most efficient absorber of photons known.

>>512986808
And then they swap the minerals for Sisko's desk? The river will provide.

>>512995005
He bumped the thread, The other totally organic posters probably got sent to Prokrovsk. As if Trump pulling US aid wasn't hard enough.

>>512986988
That's why ukraine has evacuated everyone within 25km of that? riggggggggggggght

>>512996355
>trump pulling us aid!!4!
your father wasn't pulling out hard enough, and here you are...

>>512995005
I wonder how long until he has another breakdown and starts falseflagging with cp (again)

i would like to congratulate all the pidorashkas for participating in a successful GUR operation

>>512996974
Where'd all the nigger shills that said this was the start of an imminent Ukraine collapse go? JEJAROOO

>>512997237
the only thing that collapsed so far is my sides.

>>512996974
David D is kind of retarded and posts cope a lot. I'll wait for real sources

>>512997366
Watching them get their hopes up and then coming back down to their shitskin reality is half the fun. Where's kikeheimer, he said Pokvorsk was on the verge JEJ

>>512997465
its from puccian telegrams

>>512986807
Aren't bees dead? It doesn't look like summer. There might be honey to eat, but not bees, right?

>>512996974
that's a warcrime

>>512998266
what war? it's just a special military operation!!!

>>512996974
>Ukies spread a fake map with those horns and ziggers fell for it and ran right into their arms
This is so fucking retarded that it might actually be true lmao.

Not a single troon flag in my city
God bless our people

>>512997237
It's the old classic. If there's dead Russians strewn around they claim it as russian.

>>512998763
like dogs pissing to mark their area

Would Hitler like to visit an American military base in 1941 to ask Americans for help? Why didn't he tho? Genuinely asking.

>>512998901
Gee I don't know, one could think that he might wasn't a really big fan of America.

>>512998990
Maybe they just got drafted first?

>>512990063
kek, little Ivan left russia at the beginning of the war, well knowing he will be send to die for pootin (mom and dad helped him, not wanting to waste all the effort of raising him). Now for the other hand, fatherless, pancake-faced, fetal alcohol-syndrome litte Vladimir will gladly take the payment of $3,000 dls to become a pollock painting via drone on the fields of ukraine.

>gangster Putin is coming to Anchorage
are pipo in Anchorage scared?

>>512996974
I’d call this bullshit, but these are the fuckers who were digging trenches in the red forest. So. I could see it being something the ziggers would fall for.

>>512997548
Those are even less reliable

>>512986764
>Ukraine only has 8k casualties this year
>Russia took more casualties this year than the BBC assesses they've taken in the entire conflict
>Both of these claims are validated by webms of drone kills
>Please don't point out that these webms are years old and have Ukrainian and Malian deaths mixed into them
>They PROVE that Donald Trump's tweets are true

>>512999475
Drone ratio between the two powers is around 1:1,
so we should expect drone kills video to have around 8-20 russian KIA in them.

If it's 1-2 per video then we'll know the real casualty ratio was closer to parity.

Man I fucking hate russians. They can come at you, look at you in the eyes, not being fluster at all, no sweat, straight forehead and all, and without being a beat, be like
>pee pee poo poo

>>512986774
it's one to two or five

>>512999923
they do be like that

>>512996452
Struck a nerve. Sorry about your pay cut. Here I'll give your thread a bump so you don't starve.

>>512999796
Andrew Perpetua counts about 100-150 Russians getting killed by drone daily

>>513000260
>Andrew Perpetua counts about 100-150 Russians getting killed by drone daily
Perpetuum Mobikle

>>512999796
14:1. Drumpf himself said it.

thoughts on zapad 2025?

>>513000722
Should've been zapad 2024

they ain't got US aid
I didn't need to pull out she ain't spayed
That death ratio sounds played

>>512999796
what makes you say the drone kills are 1:1?

>>513000818
Attempt to пepeforce 14:1

>>513000260
>Andrew Perpetua

Andrew Perpetua takes it in the ass.

>muh "visually confirmed" losses

enough with this shit already.

>>513000980
pidorashka

>>512999796
>Andrew Perpetua counts about 100-150 Russians getting killed by drone daily
Not 10-20+ daily, 10-20+ per-video.

Because when both sides field 1000 drones, one side needs to kill 14 times more soldiers per-drone to get to the magical numbers often posted here.

>>513000818
>what makes you say the drone kills are 1:1?
Drone deaths are >80% of fatalities, and drones delivered to both countries is between 1:2 and 2:1 depending on the quarter.

That's why 14:1 is not so much an argument as it is a thought-terminating cliche.

>>513000722
Massively downscaled compared to previous ones, apparently.
Either a nothingburger or a final retarded mobik charge, with some Belarussian meat thrown in for flavor.

>>513000980
that sounds like a really gay name
Is he half bitch

>>513000980
I tried confirming by smell, but it didn't work

>>513001131
but that doesn't tell me why you think the kill ratio is 1:1

>>513001161
>Is he half bitch

He is one of the most try hard NAFO adherents. Supporting ukraine is his life and personality.

Hehe snibsnab

>>513001454
it's pretty rare last name is it really his last name

>>513001390
>but that doesn't tell me why you think the kill ratio is 1:1

Probably not 1:1 exactly, but it's a good ballpark to start from.

Historical artillery-attrition wars tend to have casualty ratios that track fairly close to artillery advantage, so if we track drones as ultra-precise artillery the ratios should be expected to stack up similarly.

>>513001571
in before you start saying Ukraine's million drones caused 1 million casualties

>>513000980
>don't believe your lying eyes

>>513001571
I too, can proompt.

>>513001571
>if you track this weapon like some other kind of weapon that is completely different, all the stuff I made up makes sense!
lel

>>513001725
>Bananafication

>>513001571
you are making a lot of assumptions. first you're entire argument is assuming the drones being delivered are all strike drones. you can have really big drones like a shahed or a small one like an fpv.

>>513001950
...is non-negotiable!

>>513001641
Casualty ratios != casualties.
Remember, casualty ratios beyond 3:1 really only happen when one side is effectively stone-age

>>513001965 >>513001882
>you are making a lot of assumptions. first you're entire argument is assuming the drones being delivered are all strike drones. you can have really big drones like a shahed or a small one like an fpv.
The only assumption I'm making is that a drone is functionally equivalent to very-high-quality artillery.
The rest is historical precedent.

>picrel is just an example, you can consult most war historians and get a similar synopsis (especially WW1-focused)

>>513002216
>>picrel is just an example
#3 btfo your argument

>>513002216
thats what I dont understand. why are you treating them like artillery? how are they artillery? artillery like a howitzer or artillery like a shell? as far as I can tell drones aren't comparable to artillery because drones can be strategic weapons while artillery is mostly operational/tactical level.

>>513002216
>My assumptions about drone warfare are true if you assume they are exactly the same as WW1-era artillery
You really should stop drinking.

>>513001571
This assumes equal frontline activity of both belligerents. Ie: durung WW1 if Germs started an assault, it would get repelled, then Brits would counter. As such, both would suffer similar casulties.

In this war, it is russians pushing without mercy and Ukrainians repelling them and doing offensive actions only if strictly necessary. As such, casulty ratio will be lopsided. Probably not 14:1, obviously, but 3:1 to 5:1 is entirely plausuble.

Entire UA tactic since the cstastrophe at Bakhmut is to exchange snippets of territory for RU casulties. Specifically, to keep the casulty ratio lopsided. Humans are the most expensive part of every military.

>>513002216
>casualty ratios beyond 3:1 really only happen when one side is effectively stone-age
How very russophobic of you to claim that.

>>513002432 >>513002604
Yeah, faced with war history vs "trump said it", the discussion really begins to break down. Because Trump is not even a source of information but a delivery mechanism.

We still don't know the source of the intel, whether it originated domestically or if it originated in UAF.

>>513002563
>why are you treating drones like artillery?
Because they serve an identical purpose as precision artillery.

>>513002604
>>513002563
FFS! The guy is extrapolating historical data to current situation. This is entirely justified. The cor, correct, assumption is that between two equally comitted belligerents, casulty ratios are going to be similar. In ukraine UA are not as aggressive as RU, thus casulty ratios are favourable for them. Defenders are always advantaged.

>>513002847
>you can't deny history when I just randomly pick stuff from history that doesn't have anything to do with the topic
Why don't you just use catapults for your argument, they are the same as artillery anyways because I say so.

>>513002847
I mean they're both support weapons but drones are not artillery. for the same reason why a tank isn't a machine gun even if there is some overlap in the role that doesn't mean they do the same thing or will have the same effect on the battlefield.

>>513002829
>4:1
Exactly. WW2 is full of great examples because even the most curb-stomping victories and defeats tended to average out to 5:1 casualty ratios or less.
The Stalingrad offensive is a personal favorite since it was around 3:1 in the first half and 1:3 after operation Uranus
(despite both sides claiming 10:1 or more at various stages of the offensive)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAfo5mse-ag&list=PLNSNgGzaledi9jQeOzCUtBP2pxYdCYiXX

>>513002847
>Because they serve an identical purpose as precision artillery.
>precision artillery
In WWI, WWII and Korean War?

>>513002964
>he guy is extrapolating historical data
"The Guy" is proompting an LLM to get output he wants, and still has to literally shoop his screens to force a meme.

>>513003053
Indeed a pineapple is not an orange, but they both serve a similar role making juice.

>>513002979
Catapult/onager are both classified as ancient artillery.

>>513003107
Wait, didn't you say that ratios beyond 3:1 only happen when one side is effectively stone-age, or did I misread that >>513002216 ?

>>513003231
That is a genetic fallacy. Deal with an argument presented, and not by hyper focusung on circumstantial differences between A and B. Otherwise you'll never learn anything.

>>513003385
no artillery is a gun or rocket tube that you drive or tow. a drone can be carried in a bag or take off from a runway they are fundamentally different.

>>513003385
>Catapult/onager are both classified as ancient artillery.
Then why don't you just do your retarded numbers game by treating drones as catapults? I'm sure you can find some medieval example that would serve your purpose :)

>>513002847
You are correct. Trump is not the source; he is the delivery mechanism.
That is the entire point.
The intelligence, whether from the CIA, DIA, or UAF, was deemed credible enough to be put in front of the President of the United States. He, in turn, accepted it as fact and delivered it to the world.
Your sudden, desperate demand for the "source" is not an intellectual inquiry. It is the frantic search for an off-ramp because you have been checkmated. You cannot attack the information without attacking the man who delivered it.

>>513003457
>Deal with an argument presented
Doctored screenshot of a chat with an LLM is not an argument.
Samefagging cunt.

>>513003140
Yes. Artillery is long range oomph delivery from a safe position. In this role FPV drone can be seen as long, range, guided artillery/mortar. Essentially, a tool of area denial that abstracts away ballistics, do you can't work back the position you are being shot at from.

>>513000980
You are a russian tranny on vpn.

>>513003619
That is also a genetic fallacy.

According to NASA's fire map thingy, there is absolutely no panic at Lukoil Oil Refinery in Volgalad Oblast lol.

>>513003626
hes trying to compare a giant gun that shoots in a barrage to an unmanned aircraft that can deliver payloads as small as a grenade or as large as a gbu 28

>>513003800
whoops forgot pic

>>513003626
>Artillery is long range oomph delivery from a safe position
I asked about "precision" specifically.
There was no precision artillery in WWI, WWII or Korean War. Especially capable of targeting and hunting down individual soldiers.
>>513003550
Fuck yeah, cavalry has arrived, lol!

>>513003550
The more incredible the claims, the more incredible the evidence required

You'd think /pol/ would be more aware of argument-from-authority by now

>inb4 the vaccine is 95% effective because the highest echelon of government said so

>>513003797
>genetic fallacy
Calling out blatant lies are not a "fallacy".

>>513002847
>that shitty edit to add 14:1

>>513003856
You are confusing a political promise with a national security assessment.
When a politician talks about vaccine efficacy, that is a public health statement you are free to question.
When the President of the United States receives an intelligence briefing detailing that a rival nuclear power has suffered over 100,000 casualties in seven months, that is not a political opinion. It is a national security fact upon which he makes decisions about war and peace.
Your attempt to equate a presidential intelligence briefing with Holocaust denial and vaccine debates is not a logical argument. It is a concession that you cannot refute the core data, so you must try to disqualify the source.

>>513003800
>>513003844
Pretty magical. Gonna upload the videos in a second.

>>512986649 (OP)
It's over for China!

>>513002894
>>513002894
>>513002894

GOOOOOOD MORNING THE VOLGOGRAD! Friendly Ukie drones are saying hello to the Lukoil refinery there...again! JEJAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


https://files.catbox.moe/mnj0ow.MP4
https://files.catbox.moe/7u48rx.MP4
https://files.catbox.moe/83t102.MP4
https://files.catbox.moe/xmdfl0.MP4
https://files.catbox.moe/d9l3md.MP4

>>513003853
>There was no precision artillery in WWI, WWII or Korean War.
Standard ballistic artillery hasn't changed much since WW2. Better consistency, perhaps.
I bet you'll still find mk48 fire control computers on destroyers built well into the 90's.

>>513003844
Looks hot!

>>513004160
>Standard ballistic artillery hasn't changed much since WW2.
lolwut

>Video-calls are blocked in whatsapp and telegram in pidoranistan.
>Video-calls are blocked in whatsapp and telegram in pidoranistan.
>Video-calls are blocked in whatsapp and telegram in pidoranistan.

>>513004160
>There was no precision artillery in WWI, WWII or Korean War.
>Standard ballistic artillery hasn't changed much since WW2. Better consistency, perhaps.
So why did you brought up "precision artillery" in context of FPVs in the first place?
Also, I too, can proooompt.

>>513003853
Ballistics is a science developed specifically to make artillery precise. Modern arty can reliably hit targets within 20m from 40km. Battleships of WW2 could aim at targets 25km away, while at sea, using precise optics and analog computers. Rifled arty is scary precise. Its weakness is that you can work back where you were shot from, which gave rise to counter battery fire, arty radars and killed towed arty in the recent years.
Arty is fucking scary.

The price of 1 Ukrainian life is worth at least 14 Russians.

>>513004160
Your entire argument is built on a foundation of incorrect history and flawed technical knowledge.
First, the concept of "precision" artillery was revolutionized in World War II with the introduction of the radar-guided proximity fuze, a technology General Patton called "devastating." It was so critical it was a secret on par with the Manhattan Project.
Second, the idea that ballistic artillery "hasn't changed much" ignores the development of laser-guided shells like the Copperhead in the 1980s and GPS-guided munitions like the Excalibur.
Third, and most revealingly, the Mk 48 is a torpedo.It is not a fire control computer for guns. The system you are likely thinking of is the Mk 86 GFCS.
You are attempting to lecture on military technology by confusing a submarine's primary anti-ship weapon with a destroyer's gun-laying computer. This demonstrates a complete lack of knowledge on the topic.

>>513004160
the archer is nothing like ww2 era shit. fun fact russia still doesn't use airburst artillery a technology the west has had since ww2.

Russtroons, why did you do that?

>>513004488
>Your entire argument is built on a foundation of incorrect history and flawed technical knowledge.

I see the finn-twinks are back to stacking shit really high.

>flawed technical knowledge

the lack of self awareness needed to type that out is astounding.

>>513004707
Russtranny, explain, why pidoruzzian government blocked calls in messengers?

>the lack of self awareness
every accusation is an admission mearshnigger

>>513004707
The lack of self-awareness needed for the Russian General Staff to believe they would take Kyiv in 3 days with parade uniforms is a strategic catastrophe that has resulted in over a million casualties.

The lack of self-awareness needed to confuse a torpedo with a fire-control computer is just an amusing footnote to that failure.

>>513004600
I know a lot of ukrainians fled to Russia and Putin has said publicly that ukrainians shouldnt be allowed on the internet.

This is likely the millionth example of ukrainians not allowing the broader society to enjoy nice things. Cant have nice things when ukies are around.

They really are the misplaced african nation located in europe.

>>513003844
thats a big fire

>>513004839
4 U

>>513004447
how do you say
>shut it down
in russia?

>>513004775
>fingol talking about self-awareness

>>513004488
>Second, the idea that ballistic artillery "hasn't changed much" ignores the development of laser-guided shells like the Copperhead in the 1980s and GPS-guided munitions like the Excalibur.
A laser-guided munition is no longer following a ballistic trajectory.

Precision guided munitions are a separate class of artillery as it no longer follows a ballistic trajectory.

>>513004775
>Kyiv in 3 days
If only they listened to Donnie and took the highway.

>>513004899
Concession graciously accepted.

>>513004869
ЭЭЭЭЭ БЛЯ BЫPУБAЙ HAХУЙ

>>513004907
>Artillery hasn't changed since WW2
>Hey, stop pointing out the changes that happened since then, that's not fair!

>>513004907
PRIVATE. ARE YOU A COMPLETE MOUTH-BREATHER?
So what you're telling me is that if I fire a shell from a cannon, and it uses fins to steer itself directly into an enemy command post instead of landing 200 meters away in a ditch, it's no longer artillery? The grunt whose command post just got vaporized doesn't give a damn about your dictionary definitions. It's still a shell, from a cannon, doing the job of artillery, only better.
And you post this meme about General Milley's "participation trophies" while Russian generals are getting "Hero of Russia" medals for taking a single ruined village at the cost of 10,000 of their own men.
Your knuckle-dragging obsession with semantics and decorations proves you have absolutely no grasp of what wins a war. Now drop and give me twenty.

>>512986649 (OP)
>The Institute for the Study of War assessed that the coming days will be decisive in the battles for Pokrovsk and Dobropillia
They're wrong Ukraine has already announced it has won that battle.

>>513004991
>>Hey, stop pointing out the changes that happened since then, that's not fair!

the anon is correct.

you are thinking the exception makes the rule. this is a common trap desperate trannies fall into.

For every specialty shell fired, many thousands of regular, age-old munitions are fired first.

This is why everyone hates /k/, you fags are no different. Its like going to a hair and nail salon and listening to women talk about matters of warfare.

>>513004907
>The culevrin hasn't changed at all since the Renaissance. All pieces and munitions are actually still the same

>>513005157
Welcome back you filthy lesbian

>>513005067
Actually one (1) zigger managed to break through and hole himself up in an abandoned building. He has no weapons and is currently starving to death but russia still counts that as taking the territory

>>513005035
>So what you're telling me is that if I fire a shell from a cannon, and it uses fins to steer itself directly into an enemy command post instead of landing 200 meters away in a ditch, it's no longer artillery?
The fun part is that while saying this, he also claims that drones - which are completely different from artillery down to the last screw - should be treated as artillery lmao.
I like this shill, he's funny.

>>513004991
>Standard ballistic artillery hasn't changed much since WW2.
>>Artillery hasn't changed since WW2

An outsider would not notice the distinction between these two statements.

>Or ESL's just don't know what "ballistic" means

>>513005254
Ukrainian declaration of victory in Pokrovsk was even in uhg OP.

>>513005157
Tranny, can you answer my >>513004751 question? You're son of a dog-fucking fat whore with mustache.

>>513005361
Was not

>>513005251
The way artillery gets used on the battlefield has largely remained unchanged over the years.

The doctrines that dictate how artillery works in conjunction with other units, has LARGELY (not entirely) remained unchanged.

Artillery, despite all the technological advances made, still requires mass, numbers, and ultimately, local superiority.

The fact precision guided shells exist doesnt change the above.

Everyone hates ukraine supporters. You are all worthless faggots.

>>513005408
I already did. >>513004824

Also, get off my nuts. You're not getting any attention for a while.

>>513005505
The doctrine hasn't remained unchanged. It has been fundamentally broken by a technological revolution you fail to grasp.
The principle is not 'mass.' The principle is 'effect.' A single drone operator with a single Excalibur shell can now achieve the 'local superiority' that once required an entire battery firing for an hour. This revolution in efficiency is why Russia, the supposed master of artillery doctrine, is suffering a 14:1 casualty ratio.
The only thing 'worthless' here is the Black Sea Fleet, a multi-billion dollar navy rendered combat-ineffective and forced to hide in port by a nation that doesn't have one.

>>513005629
>The doctrine hasn't remained unchanged.

YOU CANT EVEN LIFT A SINGLE ARTY SHELL. YOU'RE NOT EVEN CAPABLE OF OPENING YOUR OWN PICKLE JARS.

you're just making shit up.

dont be late for your asshole bleaching appointment.

>>513005550
You are a tranny, and your useless head eventually will be separated from your body.

>>513005629
>A single drone operator with a single Excalibur shell can now achieve the 'local superiority'

if this were true, maybe ukraine wouldnt have lost the war so horribly.

>/1. Russian Volgograd oil refinery was targeted tonight. Strong fires began on the territory of the oil refinery and continue to this moment.

Volgograd oil refinery has the capacity of 14,5 million tons of oil per year.

>>513005744
LISTEN UP, YOU SNIVELING WORM.
YOU'RE SCREAMING ABOUT ME LIFTING A PICKLE JAR? THE RUSSIAN ARMY COULDN'T LIFT A SINGLE T-14 ARMATA TANK ONTO A TOW TRUCK WITHOUT IT BREAKING DOWN IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR OWN VICTORY DAY PARADE.
THEY FAILED TO LIFT THEIR OWN "SUPERWEAPON" IN FRONT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD. THE ONLY THING THEY'RE LIFTING IS VODKA BOTTLES IN A DITCH OUTSIDE OF POKROVSK WHILE WAITING TO BECOME A STATISTIC.
YOU ARE A PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A SOLDIER. DISMISSED.

>>513005918
>/4. Volgograd oil refinery still smoking heavily in the morning.

>>513005810
That single drone operator with a single Excalibur shell is precisely how Ukraine is inflicting a 14-to-1 casualty ratio on Russia.
It's how Russia has lost over 112,000 soldiers since January, a fact confirmed by President Trump based on his intelligence briefings.
You are confusing "winning" with "occupying ruined real estate." Russia is winning territory and losing its army. This is the definition of a catastrophic defeat.

Zisters what does it mean

>>513005991
>That single drone operator with a single Excalibur shell is precisely how Ukraine is inflicting a 14-to-1 casualty ratio on Russia.

if this were true, ukriane would have been invited to alaska.

In reality, Trump had to specifically say that no lesbians were to be allowed in Alaska.

>>513006210
You have it exactly backwards.
Ukraine isn't invited to the first meeting because it's a "feel-out" session where Trump will determine if Putin is serious about ending the war. If Putin is not, Trump has promised "very severe consequences." If he is, Trump has stated he will set up a second meeting "almost immediately" that includes Zelenskyy.
This isn't a negotiation. It is a summons. Putin is being forced to the table because of catastrophic losses and economic pressure, like the new tariffs on India.
The fact that you have to invent fantasies about lesbians to cope with this reality proves you have no connection to the facts of this war and are not a serious person.

>Monke has to beg Trump for a peace deal because he's too afraid to meet with Selensky or any other European leader
What a faggot lol.

>>513006534

Why would trump be afraid to meet his vassals and lapdogs?

>>512986649 (OP)
TZD

>>513006134
Can anybody confirm it?

>>513006612
He's saying Putin is afraid to do so, not Trump. Dyslexic, are you?

>>513006717
Did you forget that he is a russtroon on vpn?

>>513006795
No, but he could be both, geg.

>>513006717
>Dyslexic, are you?
Of course he is, that's one of the reasons for his constant redditposting. Books for people with dyslexia are also written like that because they can't focus on the words when there isn't a huge gap between the sentences or something.
He writes like that because he thinks it makes him sound smart like his dyslexia-approved books.

>>513006824
Is that why one of his figures of speech is "books could be written on that subject"? :DD

TZD

>>513003844
Burn baby burn!
Lukoil inferno!
(Dances in 70s)

>>513005944
https://xcancel.com/Archer83Able/status/1955795292860604527#m
>The Governor of Volgograd Oblast Andrey Bocharov confirms the fire and "leak of oil products" at the Volgograd oil refinery due to the "fall of drone debris."

Lmao

>>513004869
Right now they like to say BCE!) (vse!), as it means the end of good times for something or someone. Like "it's over..." or "kaput" and stuff.
"Whatsapp and telegram in russia VSE!"

>>513007129
Imagine what could have done whole drones if all these remains are so combustible!

At what cost?
>The proposal package reportedly involves granting Russia access to Alaska's natural resources and lifting certain U.S. sanctions on Russia's aviation sector, which has struggled under the weight of international sanctions.
https://kyivindependent.com/trump-may-offer-putin-minerals-access-in-ukraine-in-exchange-for-peace-telegraph-reports/

>>513007151
>Right now
It's from an ancient joke.

>>513007117
>Dances
You just made me remember this gem lol

>>513007183
russians should start storing the debris to heat themselves during winter as it is not looking good

https://xcancel.com/NSTRIKE1231/status/1955756727095452159#m
>Ukrainian forces have repelled another large-scale mechanized assault by the Russians on Mala Tokmachka (Orikhiv sector). The assault began with the Russians moving heavy equipment from Verbove straight across the fields, followed by Russian motorcyclists attempting to break into the village via the road from Novoprokopivka. In the end, the attack failed. Russian losses: one tank, four buggies, four motorcycles, damaged IFV and APC, 16 soldiers killed, and 10 wounded.

>>513005918
>has
Had

>>513007234
>At what cost?
yours apparently for some reason.

but seriously this a joke right? no way that a president of one of, if not, the most powerful nation would let this slide right?

https://xcancel.com/Vijesti11111/status/1955818496161669134#m
>21th Assault Regiment Berlin with 233rd Battalion of 128 TDF Brigade launching counterattacks in north and north east Kamensky Town of Zaporizhia region,
The fighters successed in Liberating
many residential blocks.

>>513006534
To be fair, I think zelensky would have to be restrained from beating pootin to death with his poopcase if they were ever in the same room.

>>512986722
>worked for my wife-ACK

Get your daily stats here

>>513007606
You are a jewish tranny.

>>513005505
that isnt true. gps changed the game and drone spotters changed the game further. among other things not related to fuses and self propelled guns.

>>512996974
>Shariy
kek, it's so over

>>512996974
>azov dealing with russian menace yet again
BASED

GOOD MOOORNING volgograd refinery

>>512999796
>Ukraine is now a "power" like russia
The multipolar world is indeed coming, just not the way monke expected

test

>>513008305
Ze Stalingrad shall burn again!

>>513008305
what do hohols make their drones out of, that the debris is so flammable? another HATO biolab invention?

>>513008331
Invite Ukraine to Alaska right now instead of russia

>>513007129
Nobody's been hurt in result of falling debris))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>513008305
>xoxol nazis bomb civilian child liquor store
this is why everyone hates you kikes

I see the jeet nigger shills are trying to debate 14:1 again, sorry niggers the film says otherwise LMAO

>>513008734
BURN THE NIGGER REFINERIES DOWN

>>513007473
>Sumy copefensive - disastrous defeat
>Zapo copefensive - disastrous defeat
>Pokvorsk breakthrough - ongoing, considering the maps, will end up being a disastrous defeat that jeet nigger shills will have to memoryhole.

Why is the russian nigger army so fucking bad? JEJ

>>513008734
Total refinery death along with total moskal's death!

>>513009026
THE FLAME CLEANSES THE MOSKAL NIGGERS

>>513008972
Because they are niggers, anon. Didn't you know that already?

>>513008734
Damn that one looks like some sort of fire priest holding a candle or something. Is this god's way of telling us that all of Russia needs to burn?

>>513009082
Good point. BAKING

>>513009126
No fuel - no food. Starve them all to death!

https://xcancel.com/NAFORaccoon/status/1955792219178459351#m
>Imagine being told to advance as far as possible with 4 other retards with a flaky promise that you’ll get supplied via drone from 20 km back. Then you find out through Telegram that the AZOV is coming to hunt you. This PR stunt is going to be an absolute shit buffet for the orcs

https://xcancel.com/itishimarstime/status/1955861661031825754#m
>IT IS HIMARS TIME!

@itishimarstime

36m

In this brutal video, one of the road sections near Pokrovsk. The Russians are rotting every few meters of our sacred land.
https://t.me/exilenova_plus/11447

>>513009299
There probably never was a plan to hold it long term. Just enough to look good during the Trump/putin meeting

>>513009379
BOOOO I thought this would be fresh, anyways

Artisanal 800year old Mother Yeast, mutigrain sourdough bread is now ready for consooomption. shitskins get shit pucks and cow piss as is tradition

>>513008806

>>513009026
Damn I can almost feel the heat through the monitor

>>513009415
They failed to do even that.

>>513009026
Dis Bozhe

>>512986649 (OP)
It's over for China!

>>513010448
>>513010448
>>513010448