Thread 512988906

Black anon here. Why are yall against the US government paying its historical debt to people like me?

>>512988906 (OP)
I think they should euthanize you instead.

When are you going to start paying reparations for all the damage nigger criminals have done to this country?

Because the point of origin the chiefs of the tribes that sold them first should be responsible.

>>512988906 (OP)
pay up for damages, nigger.

>>512988906 (OP)
you may simply leave

>>512988906 (OP)
Because you were never a slave and current taxpayers were never slave owners. Why would the government cover it? Were they utilizing slaves for profit? If anything jews should be the ones paying, they were the main culprits and benefactors of slavery.

>>512988906 (OP)
The only reparations I'd pay for is sending all you pavement apes back to africa.

>>512988906 (OP)
Because you "people" are a fucking plague. Wish you would fuck off to wakanda.

>>512989155
There would be no US govt. at all if they didn't utilize the enslaved population to win the revolutionary war.

>>512988906 (OP)
Sure, let's start with the supply chain.
BTW, saying this as someone who has dick to do with the slavery in the US, living in a state that never had slaves. Essentially, best I can do is a ticket back to wherever the fuck the niggers are claiming ancestry.

>>512989293
>>512989212
Why do white people talk like they are not largely derived from immigrants to the US?

>>512988906 (OP)
You niggers have been getting reparations forever. Time to cut you off.
On average, over a black's lifetime, the Government spends almost a million bucks on each nigger in 2014 dollars. How the hell is that NOT reparations?
You've been more than paid, cotton picking machines sell for $1.3 million and replaced over 20 niggers. It's far cheaper to buy modern farm equipment.

>>512988906 (OP)
bc you niggers don't work hard, behave, and you stink.

>>512989347
Wow, they won the Revolutionary war for us! Is there anything they can't do?

>>512989400
Why do you shitskins talk like being a descendant of immigrants is the same as being subhuman animals that tear everything apart for little to no reason and actively make everything worse for everyone?

>>512988906 (OP)
How do I know your ancestors were no slave owners?

>>512988906 (OP)
How, Painted Face.

You should be asking the kikes for reparations, not the US government. The US government didn't own slaves. They hired the companies that owned them.

>>512989514
Not the point

>>512988906 (OP)
Yes get monarchs & white kike slave owners to pay reparations

>>512988906 (OP)
how about a free one-way trip back home to Africa?

>>512988906 (OP)
No reparations without repatriation. Back to africa and ill pay you 150k

>>512988906 (OP)
because you've ran a negative balance and now you owe America

>>512988906 (OP)
Because all blacks aren't responsible for the car Lil Eek-Ook stole and wrecked.

>>512988906 (OP)
you're not black, you're a white homosexual, niggers don't type like that.

>>512989400
sailing across the ocean (something niggers have never done on their own)
and building a nation out of wilderness was not "immigration"
there was nothing here to "immigrate" to
total nigger brain thoughts

>>512988906 (OP)
Why do niggers always think they deserve free shit? The only thing you deserve in life is to die nigger

>>512988906 (OP)
Hello nigger, have you ever thought deep enough to realise who owned the plantations, who bought the slaves, who operated the auctions houses where the slaves were traded, who owned the ships that brought the slaves over, who offered reward to those who caught the slaves before they got shipped?
Did you know that these individuals have surnames and that their wealth has been passed down to their great grandchildren who are alive today and who you should approach in regards reparations?
Good luck, nigger.

>>512989811
Most white Americans have nothing to do with the founders. Most of yalls grandparents are immigrants to the US via Ellis Island.

>>512988906 (OP)
>Why are yall against the US government paying its historical debt to people like me
Because the US government didn't sell your ancestors into slavery, Africans did.

>>512988906 (OP)
sorry after section 8 and ebt you owe us again

>>512988906 (OP)
Reparations with repatriation.
Thats the deal, jack.

>>512989951
So then why would they pay reparations? Oh wait, you're never going to answer this, nigger.

>>512989988
>Because the US government didn't sell your ancestors into slavery, Africans did.

There's no physical evidence to back that up. There is however US documentation proving govt exploitation of my ancestors.

>>512990070
The US government wpuld pay the reparations.

>>512989951
>nigger math and history

>>512989595
suffer

>>512990126
And where do you think they get money from?

>>512988906 (OP)
Let me put it in terms you understand. It's because you are a nigger.

>>512990083
>There's no physical evidence to back that up.
Yes there is. Literally all slave trading ledgers point back to who they bought slaves from in Africa.

>>512990126
you ain't getting shit nigger, just a free trip back home

I hope you take this generous offer

>>512990134
Its true though.

That's why surnames like Washington, Hamilton, Jefferson, Jackson etc. Are largely black surnames.

>>512988906 (OP)
Africa should pay you for selling your ancestors in the first place.

>>512990206
Show proof.

It doesn't exist.

>>512990259
lmao nigger history

>>512990265
This narrative of us being displaced Africans needs to die. My great grandparents were born raised and died in Philadelphia.

>>512990350
https://digitalcommons.wofford.edu/localhist/1/

>>512988906 (OP)
They already have paid you back. It's called affirmation action, DEI, and government bonuses to companies that hire blacks. We whites don't get those same privileges. Be thankful.

>>512990446
>Philadelphia
The slave free state.

>>512988906 (OP)
Because fuck niggers. Go ask the kikes for your fucking dollars, spade.

>>512990472
>1844-1854

This is not the era in question.

>>512988906 (OP)
>Black anon here.
I doubt it.
>Why are yall against the US government paying its historical debt to people like me?
Because the US government doesn't owe you anything. The government didn't own slaves. I do however support breaking up America's elite families - all of them came from slave owners at some point - and redistributing their wealth and holdings amongst all actual slave descendants, not by marriage. You've undoubtedly voted for them and argued the righteousness of every president you've ever voted for: they all come from slave owners, including Obama.
Let's discuss who fought the state of South Carolina for the legal right to own the very first legal US slave. You'll never guess.
Also, you should be screaming at the jews who bought you from your tribal leaders who sold you to the jews, who brought you to America and sold you to other jews.
Also seek reparations to the tribal leaders who sold your ancestors.

>>512988906 (OP)
*BEEP*

>>512988906 (OP)
Because fuck you. You owe us at this point.

>>512988906 (OP)

I'm all for it as long as only the southern states have to pay for it.

As far as I'm concerned, the north paid any debt they could have towards black people when they went to war to free them. It's to this day the most costly war in terms of lives, both in absolute an relative terms, that America has fought. 50% more people died to free the slaves that they did in WW2, the second place.

>>512990656
>This is not the era in question.
So you're admitting you know enough about history to know the cutoff for transatlantic slave trading but not enough to that niggers sold niggers? Or is it you won't admit it?

>>512988906 (OP)
Mexican here. I'm full stop in favor of reparations. The fact that a man like Tariq Nasheed conceptualized "delineation" from the greater Black amalgamate with a well-described ethnogenesis was ingenious. It is a step in the right direction to indemnify those who have been harmed, not just by slavery, but everything that came before and after like redlining, black/Jim Crow laws. I'm of the belief of a tax free status from states had slavery for the very same amount it was legal in their books the same with the federal government. I also believe FBAs should get land in the deep south, excluding Texas.

I'll also add that I'm disgusted by your fellow "American" compatriots who discriminate against you. FBAs built this country and without them, it wouldn't exist. Many of them who have contempt against FBAs are even from the Anglo-Gringo colonial stock. FBAs are indeed an inseparable part of the US. And anyone who says otherwise is lying.
>>512990265
I am also in favor of the US sanctioning African oil and their other resources to pay their reparations that are owed to FBAs. Africa is not innocent from these crimes. Also, many African countries should offer FBAs automatic citizenship through a right of return. But yes, the US should levy a trade tax on all those African countries that participated in the Atlantic Slave trade. It should also have seizure notices for their ships until some type of compensation structure can be negotiated.

>>512988906 (OP)
>Why are yall against the US government paying its historical debt to people like me?
I'm not. But it has to be estimated based on how it would be divided from your ancestor that was a slave. So you might get about 500 bucks.

>>512988906 (OP)
You already got your reparations with 75 years of social programs and welfare

>>512988906 (OP)
Sheboon Cockpocket got dem crazy eyes mang

>>512988906 (OP)
It’s been paid. You’re welcome. Remember to thank a white person every day

>>512990889
>Mexican here
go back to Mexico where your opinions on these matters might actually matter

Reparations should be give, but only if whites get reparations for the imbalance of crime against them. Let's just call it even even tho blacks clearly owe whites.

>>512990990
I am in Mexico. Pay the man what you owe him.

>>512991063
no chance Paco, ICE is going to find you eventually

>>512988906 (OP)
I'll gladly pay reparations in the form of a one way ticket to Africa, take it or leave it.

>>512988906 (OP)
I want to send you all to fucking Africa just like Lincoln did. Get the fuck out. Go home.

>>512988906 (OP)
how about you just steal your nikes directly from foot locker as usual?

>>512989595
You don't want to talk about that? I'm shocked. But all niggers should get money despite whether they are related to someone that was a slave? The whole slavery reparations talk is nigger nonsense.

>>512991049
The only reason there is crime against them by FBAs, if any, is largely rooted in the legacy of slavery through socioeconomics. You can't just enslave someone for centuries, delete their culture and way of life, then free them and expect to succeed with a full deck stacked against them.
>>512991114
ICE is doing nothing right now. And in reality they'll only be used against white antisemites in the future.

>>512989347
And your response to my other points? Guessing you have none since you only addressed one.

>>512991366
>The only reason there is crime against them by FBAs, if any, is largely rooted in the legacy of slavery through socioeconomics.
But they act the same way wherever they are in the world, so that's been disproven. Even wealthy blacks are on average more criminal than poor whites.

>>512991366
https://files.catbox.moe/07b9nt.mp4

>>512991063
>>512991366
I have nothing to do with this motherfucking retard. for all the bantz I talk, I might still be on your side.

>>512988906 (OP)
You missed and you lost. First you need to fix your DNC before you worry about rage baiting with stuff that you'd never even do anyway even if you were back in power, which you won't be for many decades.

>>512988906 (OP)
subtract the amount of welfare you take, the amount of money that goes to policing your third world neighborhoods and how much money is lost to petty theft and I think you'll be owing us a bunch of money

>>512991438
Those are FBAs. And in fact, that's ammunition that further justifies reparations. The damage to their culture manifests through different ways. That's why Africans immigrants here wouldn't fit in your statistics. Generational trauma takes many generations to repair. But the biggest portion of that repair wont start until you start paying FBAs reparations.

>>512991618
>The damage to their culture manifests through different ways.
All disproven cope. They're less evolved. Subsaharans never even invented the wheel. Everywhere they go in the world, enslaved ancestors or not, they act more criminal than everyone else. Denying this is meaningless. No one cares.

>>512991618
>But the biggest portion of that repair wont start until you start paying FBAs reparations.
That's an assertion without precedent.

>>512991618
>Generational trauma
Its more generational baggage.

White Americans generally don't understand what that's like because their great grandparents came here for a fresh start and clean slate. The "opportunity" in "the land of opportunity" rhetoric was opportunity born at the expense of Black Americans.

>>512991618
Also, everyone's been enslaved. The barbary coast slave trade was huge during the same time, enslaved millions of whites. We're not criminals because of it. Just stop.

>>512988906 (OP)
I am all for America paying its historical debt to niggers. We owe you a boat ride back to Africa. It's time we paid our debt.

>>512991824
>because their great grandparents came here for a fresh start and clean slate.
Virginia was a penal colony.

>>512988906 (OP)
Black people should pay reparations for all the crime they commit.

>>512991824
>Black American
no such thing

>>512992017
I got a better one: how about they're grateful they're NOT sent to camps, and stop breeding.

no one wants another nigger being born. I think that's an adult compromise.

>>512991989
>Virginia

Most modern white Americans today are descendants of immigrants that came through Ellis island not colonials.

>>512991824
Irish were enslaved for life like blacks. Arguably worse because they were force bred whereas that was illegal for black slaves. The barbary coast slave trade enslaved millions of whites. Whites didn't become generationally criminal because of it. Blacks are the only ones with insane crime rates EVERYWHERE THEY GO. Every people has been enslaved and the slave master. EVERY SINGLE ONE. Get over yourselfs and grow up.

>>512991783
There is no such thing as less evolved.
>>512991789
I didn't see an ethnic breakdown of the Black cohort there.
>>512991824
They owe so much to FBAs.
>>512991844
You can't justify one injustice for another. The US government, an enduring entity benefited and continues to benefit from the legacy of slavery. Do you know who doesn't? FBAs. They get the short end of the stick everyday.

>>512992256
>You can't justify one injustice for another.
It's not a justification. It's an example how everyone's been through this trauma you are implying is exclusive to blacks. Yet only blacks are highly criminal. This disproves your argument, but you're too stupid to understand why.

>>512992167
FBAs aren't telling anyone else not to fight for their own reparations. In fact, their struggle for justice should inspire others to do the same.

>>512992167
Its much more complicated than just slavery.

>>512992164
Yes but why isn't there an underclass of generationally deprived white former convicts?

>>512992384
>Its much more complicated than just slavery.
Ok, just give a brief overview of what other variables justify their generational criminality. I'm not even ask you to support them yet. Just title the variables that contribute to this complexity.

>>512989951
Yeah which is why you're not sapping my wealth from me faggot. Even contemplating this for a second should make you pissed the fuck off when niggers get uppity with you. My ancestors fled the baltics to avoid WW2 I'll pay in you in lead if you get one step closer NIGGER

>>512992415
Appalachia is basically that. They literally have notoriously criminal families that used to be bootlegers, now they cook meth.

>>512992567
>Appalachia is basically that.
Appalachians only settled there post independence. They're not descendants of convicts.

>>512992326
It does not disprove my argument. US chattel slavery was horrendous and racialized. It is a stain upon our species as humans. The fact that nearly 200,000 FBAs had to fight for their own freedom in the Union Army; for a country that actively disenfranchised them for so long; to only later be betrayed is sickening. There is no parallel to US slavery or what followed after for the freedmen and what continues to happen.

>>512989003
fpbp /thread

>>512992459
>Contra/COINTELPRO
>Gangster/debased rapping and music
>break up of the black family via feminism
>The destruction of black academia via forced integration

etc.

We have a long and disturbing history with glowies.

>>512992724
>does not disprove my argument. US chattel slavery was horrendous and racialized. It is a stain upon our species as humans. The fact that nearly 200,000 FBAs had to fight for their own freedom in the Union Army; for a country that actively disenfranchised them for so long; to only later be betrayed is sickening. There is no parallel to US slavery or what followed after for the freedmen and what continues to happen.
lol US slavery was the most comfy version of slavery the world has ever known. Do you have any inkling how muslims treated their white slaves? Of course not. Because you've never looked into it. Every people has been enslaved, and been the slave master. But only one people more criminal than everyone else, no matter where they go in the world, and if they have a US slave ancestor or not. You have no argument to this.

>>512992724
>The fact that nearly 200,000 FBAs had to fight for their own freedom
No, the supermajority were freemen from the Northern states.

>>512992845
I am not in Europe. The issues of slavery there stand between the Europeans and those that enslaved them. With that said, I'm not blind to the Barbary slave trade. The fact also is Field Order 15 should be honored and paid with interest, along with the unpaid labor, among other things.

>>512988906 (OP)
>EBT
>Section 8
>Public defenders
>Protected class
>WIC
>SNAP
>Medicare
>Minority SBA loans
>Give us more!

>>512988906 (OP)
AYO WY DEM WYPIPO GON SAY WE WUZNT KANGS N SHEEIT MSAYN
U GOTS TA GIB ME DAT FO FREE MUNIGGUH FRFR

>>512990126
With who's money? fucktard

>>512992995
Check again.

>>512993085
I appreciate that. But the topic we're discussing with this is in regard to why blacks are more criminal than everyone else. You said it's because of slavery and other complexities, suggesting US glowies subverting them, which is true. Meanwhile, my argument is that blacks are more criminal than everyone else REGARDLESS of if they've had an ancestor even step foot in the United States.

The reason we're discussing this issue is because I suggested blacks owe whites for the out of balance criminality.

>>512993085
>The fact also is Field Order 15 should be honored and paid with interest
A military order supercedes the office of the executive?

>>512988906 (OP)
Niggers will never be able to pay reparations for the damage they have caused society

>>512993322
>Niggers will never be able to pay reparations for the damage they have caused society
correct. This can be applied to all blacks in the world wherever they go too. Not just the US, so it's not a slavery thing.

>>512993222
No, still says majority freemen.

here are your reparations you fucking nigger

>>512988906 (OP)
I hate niggers hth.

>>512988906 (OP)
The jews bought,brought and used you. Let them pay.

>>512993251
You're telling me Ethiopian doctors who come to the United States are more criminal that a random American in the same economic bracket? Show me proof.
>>512993303
He was authorized to do so. And his word was dictum in any land that came under his control as the informal military governor.

>>512993222
The U.S. Colored Troops (USCT) was the main branch through which FBAs served. Roughly three-quarters of these soldiers—about 135,000 men—had been enslaved before enlisting. Many joined after the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, often escaping or being liberated from slavery and then recruited into the army.

>>512993476
>>512993725

>>512993648
>He was authorized to do so
No
>as the informal military governor.
You even answer it yourself. The informal military governor, it's an edict he had no authority to enforce. President's office overruled it. As it was unconstitutional.

>>512988906 (OP)
>Why are yall against the US government paying its historical debt to people like me?

650,000 whites died in the civil war. Half the country was destroyed. For the past 150 years we've dealt with your people's lawlessness and given you free housing, food, college and welfare.

If you want anything more then take it up with the descendants of the rich jews that owned the slave ships and plantations.

>>512993755
Freemen were often former slaves, recruitment was predominantly in the free states.

>>512993103
Honestly, they should just be offered to receive half of their expected average cost of keeping to go back.
No TND required.
No more riots and bitching about being oppressed under laws intended for White people.
No more jews promoting them to be consumerist, thuggin', retards and using them for blockbusting and gibsmedat programs that cost triple what they provide.
They can buy plots of land in Africa and Make Africa Great using its bountiful resources and modern technology.
How many would accept that as an offer to leave?

>>512988906 (OP)
you get nothing
go get a job

>>512988906 (OP)
Because might makes right and you subhumans should be slaves. If you want reparations then demand it from the Jews for using the CIA to put crack in your communities and destroying your families, but leave us White folk alone. But the Jews will be paying us Whites reparations in blood. Negroes will be deported back to Africa. From there you can pay us reparations for all the trouble you caused us and welfare you sucked up.

>>512993811
Many men gave up their lives for that promise. A promise forged in blood should be kept. Because of those FBAs the US remained a single country.

>>512993648
>Ethiopian doctors
good one

>>512988906 (OP)
you're a plague that should be exterminated in the same way the palestinians are.

>>512994158
>Many men gave up their lives for that promise
That promise was made in 1865. Not 1861.

Neither is that a valid reason to honour it, niggers got paid for their service in cash.

>>512993904
You couldn't pay them enough to go back. They've got a free ride here.

want reparations for suffering these Bantu bioweapons dropped on America by Jews

>>512988906 (OP)
>Black anon here
No such thing. Here you are only your ideas.

>>512993182
The same source they use to give the jews and ukrainians endless cash, oh wait that's GOOD reparations... for shit we didn't even do lol. You whites are so fucking stupid its amazing.

>>512992770
I grant you reparations bit before I do i have 2 questions.
What about blacks born after the money is given out do they also get money also or do they miss the cutoff?
2 what about Chinese people who built the railroads or mines and the company would just dynamite the shaft and seal them in taking their paychecks too, do they also get reparations? Im sure every race could make a claim, what about the Irish, Mexicans, etc

>>512993898
>The federal census of 1860 counted about one hundred thousand free black men and well over eight hundred thousand slaves who would be of military age by 1863—potentially a formidable addition to the Union’s manpower pool.
>The new year was likely to bring further advances by
Union armies and freedom to many more Southern slaves, opening up fertile fields
for recruiters.
"Roughly one-third were Northern born free men"...
https://www.nps.gov/apco/learn/historyculture/united-states-colored-troops-at-appomattox.htm

>>512988906 (OP)
There's more niggers now than there were under slavery so giving every nigger 40 acres and a mule or the monetary equivalent would exceed the value of what reparations were supposed to be. I'd be fine with taking the estimated cost of the original reparations plan, adjusting it for inflation then dividing it up amongst the current nigger population

When you subtract total bikes stolen, blacks actually owe whites 100 trillion dollars. I’ll take a check thanks

>>512988906 (OP)
blacks have disproportionately caused more crime and city degradation, and not 200 years ago, but in recent decades and at present.
The reparations actually come out in the red for you and now blacks owe white people more.