Thread 512989461

/pol/ Is the 1080TI proof that everything went downhill?
>wasn't that expensive on release
>almost 10 years old
>its still alive and kicking
>still can run latest games at 1080p - 1440p
>tested on battlefield 6 at 80FPS average

Remember that it came out around the same time as gamergate, when games went woke, when people started complaining. it was the end of an era.
its proof we have been living in a fake world since then and we can't lie and cope about it

Best value video card ever made. Everything after has sucked.

It indeed was an end of an era. I got a rtx3060ti and its basically the same shit

>>512989637
The 1660 is alright

>>512989461 (OP)
No but it is a good example of the law of diminishing returns

>>512989745
Law of diminishing returns is midwit. More power means more details in games and more stuff can happen in games without it lagging. The issue is that devs don’t take advantage of the power which is why games are plateauing in looks

>>512990089
And also they just end up wasting most of the extra power on having the game not be optimized whereas past devs optimized everything crazy to get every drop of power they could

>>512989461 (OP)
tranny coders can't exploit new architectures and power remains untapped even as GPU manufacturers continue to create new models
>t. Voodoo3 3000 oldfag

>>512989461 (OP)
I picked up a 1070 ti recently. It beats my 1650 so Im happy with it.

>>512989461 (OP)
Not really. It came out before covid's chip shortage, the AI race, and organized scalping. Those 3 things drove up the prices immensely

>>512989461 (OP)
got mine for 400 eur (new ofc)
how did I do /pol/
like uhm 4 years ago or sth?

>>512989461 (OP)
Yeah 1080ti is a god tier gpu.
I was also owned the legendary i7 2600k.
That cpu was a beast with oc @ 5ghz on air a regular thing for many owners.

>>512990089
>>512990191


details in games are for faggots, the best games of all time look like shit

ocarina of time
counter strike
half life
world of warcraft vanilla
gta vice city
tetris
super mario 64
flash games from the 2000s
windows pinball game from way back
playing cards at the table with your family at christmas

suck me

>>512989461 (OP)
1050ti anon here
New gpu architecture is for farming meme coins.
You’re all gay for buying $3k cards for fort nite and BF 6.
Modern gaming fags are all dead trash and suicidal trannys anyways.

>>512990495
Man that is and was always a dog shit gpu. Fucking upgrade it ffs.

>>512989745
the reason the graphic card market stagnated is because by how much nvidia is compared to AMD
not because of that

>>512989461 (OP)
>1080ti
>rehashed 5000$ Titan V
>sold as new
Wowzers folx!!!

>>512989461 (OP)
the amount o vram the 1080 ti had was insane for the time and is still insane now
11 gb is massive and can still handle even AAA games and can even run intensive software that exists today with greater ease than some modern low or mid-end GPUs
Directx 12
1.5 gigahertz
only 250 watts power draw compared to the over 600 watts draw from today's high end, but was high for the time
Drivers still work even though hasn't been updated that much recently
Really is a legendary GPU
the AMD counterpart with similar status for AMD at the time was the RX 580 for the price, but even though the 1080ti outperforms that, even the RX 580 still holds up today
Truly the end of an era

>>512990495
you can't mine crypto with consumer nvidia graphics card for several generations now

just get the fucking new computer you cheap faggots

>>512989461 (OP)
I have a 1080ti I have used for 10+ years. I built the machine when I just turned 21 and bought the card used. I think it’s about 11 years old now.

>>512990089
>>512990191
Shut up Rajsesh go scam a grandma

>>512989461 (OP)
I think you mean 970. That was THE meme card that everyone wanted and it's STILL playing AAA games at 1080p today. You wasted your money lmao
>wasn't that expensive on release
lmao it was still more than any other GPU had been before it and then it quickly skyrocketed as crypto mining went mainstream. 970 was the last good GPU.

>>512990383
imagine being so zoomer you can't even remember crypto mining

>>512990938
You have posted an anime drawing that means you are a tranny that supports that bf6 hacker tranny and are also a vomitcore hacking estrogen laced retard zoomer

>>512989461 (OP)
I want to build one for my little brothers

>>512990089
You dont understand what you are talking about anon

GPU performance in raw terms, i.e. shader core throughput per Mhz has flat lined. RTX50 series is only ~12% faster than the 10 year old GTX10 series in raw terms . Smaller process nodes have allowed more shader cores and a rise in clock speeds but there has been no significant increase in rasterization performance per core since the GTX10 series. We have used various methods of frame generation trickery to try and make it appear that shader core throughput has increased but it hasnt in any significant way

A GTX 1080 Ti performs about the same as an RTX 5060 in raw terms and it has a similar number of shader cores. To get improvements we have gone from 3584 cores on a 1080 Ti to 21760 shader cores on a 5090. Thats the reason GPU prices can never go back down again. The only way to improve performance is to increase costs or reduce margins

This flat line hasnt been evident in other semiconductor spaces. CPU designs have continued to improve as demonstrated by constantly increasing single thread performance even at the same clock speed

modern games blow man, the only reason to get a new gpu is to make smut with local ai

>>512989461 (OP)
I had a 1070 for like 8 years and it was a beast. Using a founder's edition 3060ti now and it kicks ass despite being a low end card. Can run most games on 1440p ultra w/o ray tracing.

If you aren't some giganerd autist who needs to run everything at absolute max gfx 100+ fps, then it's worth it to consider older cards since they're much more affordable.

>>512990452
I'll be a bigger boomer than you and say good 2D is better than bad 3D and that i prefer the Infinity engine games over Neverwinter Nights and Final Fantasy 6 over FF7

>>512990655
The last truly decent AMD card was the 7970 from like 14 years ago.

>>512989461 (OP)
2020 never ended

>battlefield 6 at 80fps

bullshit even if you're playing with all settings extra low and DLSS 4 set to performance mode.

>>512989714
The 1660 is much newer and it outperformed by the 1080.

You want value buy a second hand 3080 and change the thermal paste.

>>512992257
or if you werent a retard you just flashed a 7950

>>512990452
Ocarina of time is a fantastic looking game.

>>512990452
Nigger tier list.

No Super Mario 2, Dr. Mario, Fester's Quest, Dragon Warrior 1-5, Yar's Revenge, Pitfall, Raiders of the Lost Ark, etc.

I bough a couple 1080tis for $150 ea from a former mining operation. They run great and silent, seems it can handle anything. 1070 is cool as well

>>512992257
Vega 64 with HBM was an absolute gem, especially when it dropped to £200 retail in the UK. RX 580 wasnt a bad option

>>512992420
Didnt always work. My mate was a smug bastard who who bragged about flashing up prior gens of AMD / ATI GPU's. Then he went and bought himself 12 x 7950 for bitcoin mining and tried to flash them all to 7970s. A week later 9 of his 12 were dead and his RMA's were refused lol

>>512989461 (OP)
>wasn't that expensive on release
people shat their pants at the price back in the day

>>512992838
lol we did indeed. Im not fucking paying 800 royal portraits for a fucking GPU! Thats outrageous! But I did indeed buy one regardless

>>512992673
There's like four or five games it can't run. Undeniably a beast of a card and we won't get one that's so future proof again.

However I'd still recommend a used 3080 for maximum price to performance.

>>512991113
JFC, I bought and still use a GTX 970. I had no idea it was a mene card. It runs everything fine, just not modern games at 2560. I bought it when everyone was waiting on the next gen gfx cards (2080 and 1060)...it was super cheap. I barely oc'd it. It's still plugging away.

I guess I'm just excited that my half ass purchase was good lol. I had no idea these were desirable.

>>512993018
They're about $100 AUD, or like $2 USD now.

You're still paying a clout tax on the 1080ti.

>nvida releases 1080ti
>it's so fucking good that people still use it today
>people who bought it won't have any reason to upgrade
probably right around the time nvidia realized they shot themselves in the foot and couldn't have another 1080ti. it's more profitable to have weaker cards that you're incentivized to upgrade constantly

>>512989461 (OP)
I used to run the non TI version the Zotac 1080 Amp extreme one and its a pretty good value card i still have 2 of them but using a 3090 TI nowadays.

the GPU market is fucked.

>>512992838
It wasn't even 10% pricer than previous gen, now pricing uplifts are just nuts.

Look up the Titan X/XP they are superior & more stable, dont fall into the sli fetish, its not worth it. (they are 150-200 bucks 120 even (if you are lucky))

>>512989461 (OP)
I bought an RTX 4080 Super thinking i'd finally play all the AAA games i never played before and i ended up just playing Minecraft and Overwatch.

Im so fucking retarded.

>>512993195
The reality is that Nvidia dont really want to sell GPU's to gamers anymore. There just isnt enough money in it for them

The GB200 die is 750mm2 and fabbed on TSMC's 5nm process. That means that it costs roughly $550-$650 to manufacture depending on yield rates and then they have the following options:

Sell those die's as RTX 5090's gamer cards for $1,500
Sell those die's as RTX Pro 6000 workstation cards for $7,500
Sell those die's as GB200 AI modules for $30,000

Gamers are not high on their priority list

>>512993519
The AAA games are the expensive part. A 4080 super isn't worth it for Minecraft/Overwatch when you can play those on a laptop. You need to plan to play better games.

>>512989461 (OP)
I have a 5090 though

>>512991168
I actually paid off my 1080 with ETH mining for one year. Still sucks vitalk when gay with POS.

>>512992257
r9 fury X (and the nano) were pretty decent.
If not for the 4gb, they would still be pretty usable today.

>>512990452
i miss when games had art direction instead of striving to look as photorealistic as possible

>>512989461 (OP)
Bro I paid 1k each for 2 of them. They were great but they weren't cheap.

>>512993519
At least you can play minecraft at 1000+ fps.

I've played a few triple As on mine but I'm not that impressed by them. I mainly just play rocket league, which I could actually get 240fps on my 1060 6gb.

I still run it at 240fps. I bought Jedi survivor on special and I was pretty disappointed, ok it's a good looking game, maybe I'm just a boomer that prefers ps2 era hack and slashes. I just don't believe that after you hit someone with a lightsabre you then need to worry about dodging their next attack. Couldn't shake the feeling I was swinging a fluorescent baseball bat.

Cyberpunk is half decent and worth it on special now.

>>512989461 (OP)
Back in the day when the first geforce came out (i would say in the year 2000) each subsequent generation was significantly faster than the previous one, even the budget version of said generation.

I didnt follow up on graphicscards these days (got a 1080) but i would assume this card is still at least as fast as the budget version of 5xxx cards.

Recently upgraded my 1080 for a RX 9070xt
Will never go back to Nvidia

>>512989461 (OP)
Just get an xbox x man
Wtf?! Then get a job afterwards. N girl

>>512993836
I know but my old laptop from 2021 barely got 30-40 fps on minecraft, i couldn't tolerate it anymore, i basically just wanted the most powerful PC possible that wouldn't bankrupt me
>>512994091
>At least you can play minecraft at 1000+ fps.
I actually got 1000 fps somehow turning all the settings down lol it's fucking crazy, but i cap to my monitor's hz at 165 because anything above isn't worth it

I got 250 fps on overwatch uncapped

>Cyberpunk is half decent and worth it on special now.
I might play it to be honest.. EVENTUALLY... but i've really gotten bored of gaming. I thought buying a PC would revitalize my love of gaming but it didn't somehow.

I'm just depressed and jaded and unable to enjoy anything i guess

>>512989461 (OP)
I was running a gtx970 until this year. Replaced it with a fiddysiddy teee aigh and the only difference I'm experiencing is that I can run raytraced games now. That's it.

>>512990452
Truth

>>512989461 (OP)
The problem is that video game graphics aren't limited by hardware anymore. Better graphics means more time and money spent developing a game. It's not worth it to spend hundreds of millions of dollars and several years to develop a game that makes use of the best hardware available. With a normal budget and a few years of work the best game you can make runs fine on older hardware. We don't need more processing power anymore. We just need more games.

>>512994156
It's better than the 5050 but apparently the 5060 beats it.

The 3080 is much better than the 5060.
https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-3080-vs-GeForce-RTX-5060
Which is an absolute joke.

my 1080ti committed self die like 4 months ago. 6 year old gpu, decided that its heat sink doesn't want to be adequate anymore, now fans spin up but doesn't stay running.

very sad attack on my video game freedom.

I'd threaten to shoot the video card but then Trump would win, and nobody wants that.

>>512994334
game consoles are for niggers

>>512989461 (OP)
Older amd cards are better. I had an r9 290x and could still play modern games at 1080p up until it lit on fire last year. AMD has more ram on it which helps with longevity.
Nvidia has always been a ripoff and they purposefully use low ram to ensure planned obselesence.

I have two 1660 ti cards in a box for when china takes over Taiwan and they become worth tens of thousands

4070 super is a good card, ut I got it for like 600 euros, bit too expensive but it's a bit future proof I thinl. Otherwise you should maybe just get one on the used market.

>>512989461 (OP)
>buy RX 6800
>4k 144hz monitor
>play star craft brood war and left 4 dead
Lol

>>512994362
I usually play a new video game when I have some free time and can smoke some weed before I play it. Otherwise I just find myself playing older games.

Do yourself a favour and go check out some fan made PC ports like Ship of Harkinian (Ocarina of time) or Starship Alpha centuri (Star Fox 64) there's also majoras mask, mario kart, super mario 64 and perfect dark.

Really hanging out for the 007 port.

I still use 1060 6GB. I don't play too many UE5 AAA games. It just werks.

>>512994765
Playing Star Fox 64 in 4k 240fps feels like a different game. Zoness went from a leggy mess to as smooth as butter.

>>512994850
>I still use 1060 6GB

>>512989461 (OP)
Still running this card. Should I upgrade?

>>512989461 (OP)
Technology completely stagnated in 2016.
>Galaxy S6 could do anything your current phone can do including VR
>Intel Skylake could do anything your current PC can do
>Social media dominance
>Vine short video format becomes popular
>GTA V (still the current GTA) had been out for 3 years
>USB-C becoming standard
>Back up cameras mandated in all new cars

That's why everyone is making such a big deal about AI. It's literally the only new technology.
>Siri came standard on the iPhone 4S in 2011
Well sort of new.

>>512994937
literal hero god.

I still exclusively watch videos and play games in 720p resolution.

>>512989461 (OP)
My first high end system
amd 2700x
32gb memory
gigabyte 1080ti
500gb m.2 ssd
very based and still runs most anything. My 5070 was a little cheaper and seems to be better but IDK if I've noticed anything.

>>512989461 (OP)
Bought two and and SLI mobo like six or seven years ago. Still use at as my main system.

>>512994283
Honestly based
The RX 9070 xt seems to be the best right now in terms of price to performance for AMD, between the 9060 and 9080 variants desu
The future driver updates will also squeeze more performance as they release as well

>>512995670
Was 2016 zoomer's 2007?

>>512996076
Based

>>512995670
TRVKE
>It's literally the only new technology.
It isn't, it's machine learning on cocaine (which is interesting in of itself) that's been feed gargantuan amounts of compute so jewish techbros can larp about AI. Notice the hype started right when SVB collapsed, before LLM stuff it was just "oh cool demo I'll check back in 10 years".

I got a 6750xt for free since my older bro is a perpetual consooo- upgrader of pc parts
Everything runs great on medium settings so im happy

This is still my GPU and I don't intend on upgrading any time soon.

Got it for free.

>>512996258
The phone I had in 2007 looked like this.

>>512990906
1080ti came out in early 2017
>>512993195
Still rocking my EVGA 1080ti FTW3

>>512993519
Would like to grab a 5080 (and they have been dropping to MSRP) but it seems like the Supers will be out soon.
Pretty much just play WoW, GFL 1 &2, Reverse Collapse: Codename Bakery Girl, along with other older games.

That and generating degenerate 2d AI images...afraid I will rub my penis into non existence if I can do it faster.

>>512995012
Depends what you are doing, they will stop providing drivers support / updates in a few months.

Ngreedia will never make that 'mistake' again...everything but the top cards are now crippled and vram starved.Crutches such as dlss,fsr,and frame generation are now part of the cards performance and enable unoptimized games...It's disgusting what this has all turned into...quite a money making fucking scheme they have going ripping everyone off for overall mediocre results that are just not worth it...

>>512990452
>the best games of all time look like shit
>playing cards at the table with your family at christmas
trvth nuke
my family do look like shit. they've all got weird dumpy looking heads and their eyes are too close together. what should i do /pol/? don't wanna give my dna to jews to check whether i'm actually related. was i swapped at birth?

>>512989461 (OP)
>1pbtid

>>512996467
Tesla Autopilot released in 2015 so not even that form of "AI" is new.

>>512991113
hehehehehe ECO!

>>512993986
I miss when both.

>>512994156
>each subsequent generation was significantly faster than the previous one
Not only that, but the new features came flying in like crazy.
We went from dx7/opengl1.1 (entirely fixed function, no shaders, nothing) to dx9/opengl2.1 in 3 years. A few years later was dx10/gl3, and a few years after that was dx11/gl4. You were basically forced to upgrade your GPU every few years, not for performance, but because everything was so much more technically advanced.

Now we've been stuck on vulkan/dx12 since like 2013. Aside from raytracing and some meme AI upscaling stuff, everything graphically nowadays can run on a card from 2014... if just at a lower resolution or framerate.

>>512989461 (OP)
It was fake before then, you are possibly gen alpha wow.

I have a 1080ti so I will be nice as you are correct it is a good card. That’s about all you know though alphie.

>>513000255
>everything graphically nowadays can run on a card from 2014...
Oh, and this one russian dude is working on Vulkan drivers for older terascale cards, so once he progresses slightly further than "it works look at my vkgears!" move that date back to 2009.

>>513000408
I always presumed the solution to rendering would be a software solution. The shit we had was perfectly fine. It’s just programmers got so lazy with such intense hardware they started writing lazy programs.

>>512989461 (OP)
They make games to run on six million different consoles that are years old. If they made games that took advantage of tech you'd have to upgrade your stuff. We've just stagnated.

>>512989461 (OP)
>1pbti
>1080TI
With what CPU and MB of the same quality do they go?
Honestly i am not buying hw because there are no games to play. Even if there are games to play there is not a stable operating system.
When i had money to buy hw i didnt because of the above.

I am a gamer for life, this killed me.

>>512989461 (OP)
i remember selling my 1060 a month before the 2000 series announcement for like $300 and then getting an used 1080ti from some chicano for like $450, literally the next 3 generationsweren't more than rehashes of the same card , i'm not even sure if the 4060 8gb runs much better on rasterization

>>513001029
CPUs from that timeperiod would be intel 7000 or 8000 series which still perform perfectly fine today in most games.
Also, if you were doing AMD at the time, you would be on AM4, and could upgrade to a 5800x3d... which is an absolute powerhouse when it comes to games, even nowadays.

>>512996861

5080 is pretty good, probably the best performance/price other than 4090 and 5090, but it kinda got gimped on VRAM. I’d wait for the super. I’m going to either upgrade to a 5080 super or just go for the 5090. 5080 can handle everything right now more or less at max settings, but within a year you’ll probably need an upgrade. If you don’t care about running shit at 4K though go ahead and get the 5080 now, it’ll breeze through everything at 1440p.

>>513001387
Thanks. I truly love long lasting hw. I remember i7 being very expensive at that time.
And what about motherboards?

>>512989461 (OP)
The driver support has ended for it

>>513001142
It runs better in nearly all cases on the newer cards but the math will piss you tf off. The 1080ti is efficient, skips ray tracing nonsense and that’s it.

The other cards are in fucking beatable with twice the memory and meme features. Twice of 11 Gb gddrx I’m fucking shocked they went this route.

As I said before this game of adding as many cores as possible will end as people prioritize saving costs over meme features like any rtx card.

What’s the market like in Mexico? What are people buying?

>>512989461 (OP)
Driver support ends this October fart brain.

>>512996467
>feed
*fed
>>512998733
yup

>>513001822
>Oh no, they won't be able to play the shitty new games that require hardware ray tracing.
Wait.

>>512989637
9800Pro was pretty killer

Athlon XP 2500+ epic CPU

I'm still rocking an i7 2600k

>>513001896
This
The entire foundation of the RTX cards is based on bullshit misinfo it looks better than clever traditional rendering. It doesn’t look better because it’s live it makes mistakes that are noticed by the human brain.

>>513001665
The 3080 breezes through everything at 1440p and you can get one very cheap without having to give NVIDIA a cent.

>>512989461 (OP)
i got a 4070 and can barely tell the difference from the 1080 TI i upgraded from, it's better at generating AI images at least

>>512989461 (OP)
it can't run Flux

>>513001710
idk. I used an i7-2700k that i found in a dumpster from approx 2013 all the way up to 2020. Did perfectly fine in any of the games i bothered to play back then. Started off with a 6970, then a 770, then a fury x. Upgraded to a 8700k from a dead work machine and got a cheap mITX motherboard for it. I only bothered to upgrade because the CPU/RAM was free, and the motherboard for it was pretty cheap.

Currently using that with a 1080. I only have a 1080p monitor, and don't really care for modern shit that much, so it plays everything i want just fine. I play fucking NES tetris more than any other game nowadays anyway.

I think my next upgrade will be a better monitor. This old 144hz asus beast has served me well for 12 years.

Maybe once HL3 comes out i'll finally spend $$$$ on actual upgrades instead of just piecing together the occasional upgrade from old parts. "PC Gaming" really isn't expensive at all if you're fine with being 5 years behind and don't care for glowy RGB shit everywhere.

>>513001969

I suppose the difference is whether you want to do 4k on the latest games. The 5080 can handle 4k on the latest games, 3080 is going to struggle.

>>513001990
Are you at 1080p? Resolution size is another scam. So many people fall for the 4K trap which is another reason such advanced cards are being manufactured.

We all know we don’t actually want ray tracing. We want single core performance and a fair amount of memory.

If this industry wasn’t so fucked a 1050ti could still run all new games 60 frames.

>>512989461 (OP)
I regret selling my 1080ti. Fuck.

>>512990578
Shut up kike

>>513002541
nigger

>>513002645
KYS kike. Worse than a nigger. You can never post here about anything with that flag. Go cry about it faggot

>>512989461 (OP)
my 3060 is basically the same thing with more modern support

>>512989461 (OP)
Amd cards mog it

>>512990578
Tard

>>513002732
easy to say as a nigger
>You can never post here about anything with that flag.
watch me newfag

>>512989637
RDNA4 just came out and is impressive, I'm confused by how cool and quiet my 9060 is. 55°c under load, fans dont spin. Poops on a 4070 if you tune it a bit. Can be picked up for $300 on sales.

Nvidia yeah they haven't even tried to offer good value since pascal. AMD still tries at least, sort of, sometimes.

>>513002815
Didn’t read. Kvetch you mentally unstable little midget. You are despised internationally!

raytracing and this new trend of AI based FPS improvement shit is what did it for me
you might as well just throw all that VRAM into a garbage can for all it's good for

>>513002889
seething

>>512989461 (OP)
>Remember that it came out around the same time as gamergate, when games went woke, when people started complaining.
I don't recall that the 1080Ti came out in 1998, the same year as Fallout 2 which was the first videogame in history that featured gay marriage and explicitly put homosexual themes on display. I also do not remember any people complaining about this, how weird.

>your worldview ended and begins with some vidya faggotry a decade old

HOLY CRINGE

>>512989461 (OP)
I have that same card in my second media room PC, eVGA though. Sad they don't make cards anymore, would have paid extra for one,

>>513002905
that's a rare pepe

>>513002541
How fucking dare you talk to your master like that.
Know your fucking place mutt.

>>513002921
Zionist move #1: project

>>512989461 (OP)
It was actually reasonably expensive on release, it's just that crypto made GPUs explode to double or more in cost after the 10X0 line.

>>513002815
It's true.
If you make fun of jews and don't support them the odds are you're brown.
Keep killing sandnigger mudslims jew bro.

>>512990906
The card was only released 8 years ago.

>>513003060
>n-n-no u
sad
>>513002169
>single core performance
>on a GPU
LMAO you're a retarded jeet

>>513003087
It hasn’t been about crypto. Crypto is designed after to fit the card boss man.

The devs didn’t even dare to make cards with crypto mining in mind. Wether that be NVIDIA or AMD nobody has made a card for that. Not in western markets anyways.

>>512989461 (OP)
Good point, I have one of those.
Main thing I notice is how they started crippling VRAM after, first because of crypto and then because of AI.

>>512989461 (OP)
1030 - fantastic performance in relation to power consumption, I absolutely love her.

>>512990495
>cope
You fucking poor fag make me laugh.

>>513003253
This is the sort of consumer who knows what they need. The 1030 is an absolute marvel for the reasons you described.

Those 2gb of vram go far on it.

I got a 7900xtx back when it launched and it’s served me well this whole time.

>>512996467
The jewish techbros are desperate for some white man to come along and do something with all that hardware they're buying. Altman let a little slip that points to the jeets and jews that thought it was a good idea to steal their work are up against a brick wall.

All that processing power should be used for materials science, not whatever homo worthless shit they're doing now.

>>512997337
The extremely low VRAM is insulting.

>>512994365
Dindu it rite, shud av fiddysev tee aigh.

>>513003640
Randomly reminded me of this sign up your pc for folding@home. It’s using public GPU’s to teach AI about protein folding for Alzheimer’s research.

>>513003783
Reasonably sure if all the ChatGay, Grok, etc infrastructure was pointed to room temp superconductors we'd have them in a month.

>>513002135
That i7 2700k was a very nice dumpster find in 2013. The cpu was like 2 years old.
Beast cpu in those days and especially for over clocking.

>>513003850
None of those services are for the public good. Those services exist with strong bias in favour of their creator.

>>513003903
Yeah and their business model is fleecing money out of governments and jewish bankers (ergo, everyone else). I'm actually not so sure these models are even good for running a totalitarian police state effectively.

>>513003948
At least we have real projects underway using volunteer computing. Look into similar programs that are underway. It seems like nothing but actual researches trying to cure stuff that matters depend on volunteers to run their deep learning configs.

>>513004060
Aye good point, nothing wrong with the hardware minus me having to pay out the ass to have a card with half the memory it can actually use. I sure as fucking wasn't shelling out for a 5090 either.

>>513003948
BOINC is a project with numerous goals. You can basically admit a percent of your pcs resources to a cause of your choosing.

>>512989461 (OP)
consumer gpu's went from >80% of their sales to <20% of their sales in the span of like 3 years.
all the memory modules went into commercial data center cards.
they also get all the above 70% dyes.
welcome to capitalism.

>>513004593
I got lucky on the bin for my 5070ti. It overclocked stable to 3.2ghz. Not that I have any need to keep it there but that's a lot of juice for free.

>>512997337
You can still build a ufo of a workstation with less than 3000 dollars

>>512989461 (OP)
yeah the RTX 2070 Super, RTX 4060, RTX 5050
have the same performance.

>>512989461 (OP)
1080ti was $700 at launch in 2017 (it was more after launch because crypto kinda boomed around 2017) 700 in 2017 is like 920 now which is 80 bucks lower than the 5080 launched at.

>>512990364
same one i got in 2017. even mined crypto on it for a bit still works fine as of now
>>512990413
thats a great cpu mine is the same generation as that but the i5 which i got in 2011, never overclocked it but it still can be. these cpus are like trucks once they start up they can run for literally ever. gee pc hardware has really not improved in terms of functionality the past 10 years
>>512996467
it used to be called ML and now we call ML AI and instead ai is now called AGI. they just shifting the goalposts of what shit is supposed to be to literally generate hype for investors and marketing, typical jewish behaviour

>>512989461 (OP)
It went downhill because it needed to be sterilized. Kikes need your bread and circus to be sedating but not radicalizing.

>>513001938
>I'm still rocking an i7 2600k

Holy based. Ride that gem until the end of time, king.

>>512990089
Gran Turismo 7 on a Ps4 looks better than any PC game ever and has flawless Fps during gameplay too.

PC is for lazy devs

>>513005711
>fat_hand_rolex.jpg

>>513007379
How is that meme applicable?

>>513007300
It's honestly an amazing chip especially since I ran it at 5.8GHz at -50C for at least two years early in its life.

Unfortunately the xtreme4 z44 motherboard isn't holding up as well, two dead ram slots, on-board NIC and audio died and it randomly throws error codes and I have to smack the side of the case a few times to make it boot properly kek

>>512990655
>the amount o vram the 1080 ti had was insane for the time and is still insane now

GPU ram has not increased because Nvidia and AMD has segmented the market, only "professional" cards have the full amount of memory, while consumer cards have way less, so that you cant use consumer cards for large AI models or 3d modeling. F.ex the professional version of 5090 comes with 96 Gigabyte of ram, versus 32 on the consumer version, and costs 6x as much.

In comparision, the professional version of the 1080ti had 12 gigabyte of ram, compared to 11 on the Ti. The pro version of the following model, the 2080, had 48 gigabyte of ram while the consumer version was stuck on 12 gigabyte.

This artificial market segmentation improves profit and is possible because Nvidia and AMD has an informal duopoly. Gfx card manufacturers will be denied GPU circuits if they make consumer boards that come with maxed ram load. The antitrust acts of the US congress 120 years ago are completely gone.

>>512989461 (OP)
>250 watts
no thanks

>>512989461 (OP)
>still works on Windows 7
>can use old ass drivers before they got poZZED
>was the last GPU to have a DVI-D port
Yep, it's 1080ti time.

>>512989461 (OP)
that card got me through 5 years...

>>513007312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUFE4M0oaIc

>>513008124
Based. But I still think it’s cool they made. Double strong 1080ti. I wonder if an SLI rig would perform better than a single 5090ti.

I feel a lot of resentment with nvidia for pursuing the rtx scam. It would be nice if they could go back to providing kick ass cards like the 1080ti without wasting board space on all the cores needed just for some soon to be eradicated rtx shit.

TLDR the card should outlive all software it runs

>>513003885
>That i7 2700k was a very nice dumpster find in 2013.
Yeah. It was a machine in the dumpster in the basement of a large office complex. Company was probably going out of business and cleaning up. I got plenty of other neat shit from that dumpster.

That large office complex is now an amazon warehouse. I used to do donuts in their massive parking lots before it got bought up.

>>512989461 (OP)
>card has the same performance as a PS5 (minus ray tracing which isn't used anyway on PS5)
>it runs games
Wow, games are still made to run on current consoles, who would have thought!

>>513007793
I wonder if that greasiness is why eVGA left the market.

>>513008307
>wonder if an SLI rig would perform better than a single 5090ti.

Doubt it, my retarded friend made me make him an SLI 980Ti machine and the amount if work I had to put it constantly to make it work even in just a handful of games 3 years ago made me insane

>>512989461 (OP)
>be me
>The Radeon RX 480 is a performance-segment graphics card by AMD, launched on June 29th, 2016.
>current year +9
sold all my coins before moon for a small ROI.
1/4 the cost of a 1080ti still gets 60fps on MW.

>>513008451
Had SLI GTX 260s. Didn't have any issues with it way back when. REALLY should have used them to mine BTC at the time.

>>513008451
Crossfire was generally easier to get working in games.
With Vulkan and DX12 supporting that whole "multi gpu" thing - even across different companies, one would think that crazy multi-gpu setups would've become super popular. Instead we just get "pay 3000$ for 20% more performance than the 1000$ card" and no game really takes advantage of multi-gpu at all.
You can't even do the ol nvidia trick of using your old GPU as a physx card since nvidia axed physx. I thought we would be able to do that shit with doing stuff like using one card for main rendering, and another card for shadows, upscaling, or postprocessing. Instead it's just nothing.

>>513008653
The market is fucked and the government should have stepped in a long time ago. Instead they're rewarding Nvidia with enormous contracts.

>>512990452
>No alex the kid
Nigger

>>513008581
Back then it was popular enough that game developers and drivers took it into consideration, in 2022 you had to download apps people made and fuck with settings and mods for each individual game

6600GTs and 6800,'s were the only cards I ever personally SLI'd for my own use then I just started buying 3870x2's and ATIs cards with two GPUs on one board

>>512989461 (OP)
$750 was fucking expensive back then. I just bought a 5070ti for the same price and it shits on my old 1080.

Hardware isn't the problem. I don't regret buying it because the card isn't good. I regret buying it because new games straight up suck. I thought it was because Im old and jaded, but I finally got around to playing all the Fallouts 3 NV and 4 and they were all really good. New games are just soulless. Its like they try way too hard to please everyone, and everyone includes niggers spics and women. It just ends up feeling just as shitty and muttified as the real world is now.

>>513008653
I remember them selling win10 as being able to use any two GPUs together at the hardware level for extra performance and them it just never happened

Waste of a $2 win10 cdkey off ebay lol

>>513008983
kek

>>513008831
My current "gaming" PC has a 6600 in it.

>>512990495

I couldn't. I had a prebuilt w\ a 2060 that was having issues, and I replaced it w\ a 3060ti i picked up used for $180.

It is kinda nuts to me the resale value of these cards. You can goto ebay, and put the completed listings filter on and look at the sale prices. The 3090 / 4090 type cards are still a few thousand bucks iirc despite the 5000 series being out.

>>512989637
No, that's the RX 6800XT.
5 years old, sells for €300 used, and can play anything, better than more than half of new gpus released. It will survive longer than 1080ti.

>still on a 1060 6GB
>waiting to see if the 5070 TI Super isn't a piece of shit
>forced to pull the trigger on shitty ripoff ware because TPM 2.0 is a requirement and 10 series driver support ending
Shit is so expensive now I'm afraid to build it and get a DOA 3 months later so these shitty companies can deny the RMA for some arbitrary reason and steal what used to be a used cars worth for a single component

>>513008428
>I wonder if that greasiness is why eVGA left the market.

It was new Nvidia design rules for cards IIRC, so yes.

>>512992363
i got average fps of 70 with 1080ti
i am on 1080p tho

>>512989637
getting milked like that cow for that loot
>1080ti
didnt even know this existed

>>513009788
Fuck that makes me mad. They had an absolutely incredible upgrade and warranty program.

>>512989461 (OP)
EVGA was the goat.

>>512989461 (OP)
Is this one the superior 1080ti?

>>513012356
True and Real

>>512989461 (OP)
Imagine paying $1000-$1,500 for a GPU so that you can enjoy unoptimized trash video game experience with games that can't even hold 60fps, and with fake frames, blur, ghosting and a flickering shadow mess.
Garbage, all of it.

>>513012356
I still have fond memories of my EVGA GTX 580

>>512990452
I like this guy

>>512989461 (OP)
I'm still on my 1070 and I'm not planning to upgrade because all new games are shit.

>>512989461 (OP)
Inflation, bitcoin/crypto mining, AI, and scalpers are the reason GPU prices are astronomical. They kept rises the prices and people kept buying the cards. NVIDIA realized that they have no real competition and can charge a lot more money because people will still buy the cards. Also nowadays their main customers are giant tech companies who use them for AI.

>>512990452
Can't get much better than Doom 2 and Final Doom if you want bang for buck. The modding scene is incredibly old and you'd take a good year to even go through the big names, and you can run the community-made engines for it on a potato.

>>512990452
Get with the times, oldfag. You have to add blue prince to that.
But the list is almost true.

>>513010529
you have to be 18 to post here

>had a 1060 6gb that lasted me nearly a decade
>just got a 4070 on a new rig last year because there was a black Friday sale that was pretty insane
>realize my old rig mostly kept up and I probably didnt even need to upgrade since I don't even really enjoy games anymore and feel too old to be playing shit
>get sad every time I see it in the cardboard box I put it in, reminding me of when I was still with my ex and life was much easier

>>512989461 (OP)
1080ti is GOAT
Have had mine since 2017 still going strong
Reminder that these cards were scalping at like 1.2K during the chip crisis
Anyone that has run a 1080ti has been living good

It's like having bought a house at the bottom after the GFC>>512994045

Only thing 1080 lacks is ray tracing

It ain't just a gimmick the RT was even good in battlefield V with the water reflections etc. >>513002321
U got ur pound of fans
Hope you have nested in Nvidia with that L

As for me, just upped to a 750$ 5070 TI

>>513008653
There is one place multi-gpu setups are used. Hashcat.

>>513015989
Where the hell did you get a 5070 TI for $750CAD?

>>513003414
love mine

I gave my PC from over a decade ago to my wife when I built my new pc - her pc has a 980 in it. It runs all the latest games off Steam at 60fps, even shit like Eldenring or Enshrouded, or the JRPG shit she plays like Persona.

I've never had any tech fag/Jeet explain to me how or why this is even a thing, they just say "haha, old card!". I've got a 4090 because I fell for the 4K meme, and I legitimately cannot see a difference between the shit she plays on 1080p and my 4K stuff.

At this point the only thing that will require her PC being replaced is the parts falling apart just from wear and tear. If not for that the PC that cost $2500 12 years ago is running modern shit exceptionally well.

>>512992831
>Vega 64 with HBM was an absolute gem
Had a couple of RX480s, and a Vega 64 Liquid.
Never really found a similar 120mm AIO card.
The 6900 XT LC was over priced due to the Crypto thing. Was selling here for like $2000.

Now have a 4080 Super Custom WB + 560mm external radiator in an ARL-S system. The melting connectors need to be fixed before I upgrade.

>>512989461 (OP)
Its only the games that seemingly went to shit. The hardware has gotten better. Also because 4k doesn't look drastically different to 1440p or even 1080p, even though the hardware has to do 4-10x more work. This was the case with TVs as well. The resolution jump from 2k to 4k wasn't seen as revolutionary.
Maybe it may change by the time 8k is a thing. I keep hearing good things about the 8k experience in TVs. Maybe it will translate to gaming in like a decade or so.

>>513016808
Most new games are designed to run on shitter consoles desu. At 1080p it's probably fine.

>>513008267
WHERE'S THE FUCKIGN GAMEPLAY?!

>>512989461 (OP)
my 980ti is the same.
Games seem to not be demanding anymore OR fairly well optimized. I can play the Witcher 3 on 2k upscaled at over 90fps. Why woul I need more? Which games is more impactful and visually stunning? Same with Csgo. Ask yourself why it has last this long. They dont make good games like they used to. Ffs minecraft is still top played and doesnt need computing power. Why upgrade? For AI... possibly once someone makes a GTA using your location data and google maps and makes it online playable where it needs only streetview to generate a consistent world. Done.

I got a really good machine for like £1,550 and it has an RTX 4060ti and I have never once used frame generation or ray tracing and it works well. Absolutely right though that modern games are unoptimized trash.

>>512989461 (OP)
80fps is shit

>>513003171

Kike!

Be me, buy rx 6800 xt, have nothing to play anyway as every game currently sucks ass so hard.
End up playing stuff like blood west or gloom wood.
Have 0 hope as every fucking npc developer is using faggy unreal engine 5.
We literally live in end times.

>>512989461 (OP)
I am still running my 1080Ti. I upgraded in 2018 and I can play everything that comes out in 4k and 120fps to this day.

It's hilarious how consoles still can't guarantee 60fps even for their next console generation. I'm timing my next upgrade for after they announce the mid tier cards for the next console generation.

>>513018961
Looking forward to Arma 4 but it's a long way out. Bohemia uses their own engine, and the next one is new.

>>512992405
Sure but it was way cheaper than buying a 1080Ti and I don't go above 1080p.

my GTX 570 HD can still play everything at max settings 4k 60fps+ even the newest titles why would i buy anything else?

havin great time on my noavi gpu sorry sis

>>512990383
>>512990383
The price went up due to cryptomining. That was the exclusive reason.

>>513019795
I was still using a GTX 960 until a few years ago. If it had 4gb of VRAM instead of 2gb I would still be using it.

>>513016808
>I legitimately cannot see a difference between the shit she plays on 1080p and my 4K stuff.
With a 60hz screen, you won't see any difference. Now get a 120/144 screen, with 10bit and all the goodies.

gtx1060 is all you need still to play the best games at 60fps or more

>>512989461 (OP)
>1990-2000: Every time you purchase a new desktop, it is consistently more for less money
>2000-2010: More computer for less money. Full of slop software you have to remove upon purchase.
>2010-2020: Marginal improvements for same price. Fewer physical ports. Full of slop software. Pozzed with spy shit.
>Post 2020: Less computer for more money. All pre-installed software is malware. Pozzed hardware that is difficult to circumvent.

>>512993519
Yeah, same here for the most part, however it's like landfill - you don't need it until you actually do.
Bought a 4070S last year and I've only been playing Factorio and Heroes of the Storm for the most part, but sometimes a good game pops up that does actually require strong hardware.

>>512989461 (OP)
2 months ago i built a new computer for the first time in 10 years. My last computer had a 1080ti, new one has a 3090
>inb4 why
locally hosted AI

>>513021280
If it doesn't have a DVD drive then I'm not buying it.

>>513015914
>feel too old to be playing shit
Yeah, go outside and feed the pigeons in the park, get drunk at 9AM and complain about "the kids these days" while reminiscing about the good old days you old fart. I bet you're not even 40 you dumb nigger.

>>512989461 (OP)
If you want value, AM4 ryzen 5 ddr5 ram WD blue. Slap whatever video card in, run windows 10 offline uninstall onedrive

>>512989461 (OP)
I’m also on my 1080ti that i bought when everyone were dumping them for the 2080.

>>512989461 (OP)
One of my PCs still has a 1080 and while not as beefy as the Ti it still runs nearly everything. I can play Cyberpunk if I'm not a jew about the settings which is pretty ridiculous and shows how little they've really done in the last 10 years. btw it had a lifetime warranty from evga, now these niggers give you 1-2 years and probably want to repair it instead of cross shipping a new card.

>>512992477
>Fester's Quest
this made the b8 too obvious friend.

>>513016808
>>513017079
I always thought the point of 4K was for living room gaming. 1080/1440 Looks pretty trash on a 75" TV.

>>513017144
Checked.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9UKt_qtzvc

Went from gtx660 what worked without fail since 2013 to rtx6600 in 2022. Got 6600 for ~170$, used. Works fine. But drivers later than march2025 work like SHIEET.

Next upgrade will be to UDNA card, probably, if nvidia will not change its ways.

>>513023285
Nvidia seems to work great, are your problems because of an Intel CPU?

>>513007125
This
>nooo I want to pay $920 for a 250 W card that has the same performance as a $250 130 W RTX 5050
>VGH WE MVST RETVRN

>>513023408
Nah, amd has widespread problems, at least had in june-july, with pc crashes due to video schedule error, you can google it. It's software problem,

>>512989461 (OP)
This shit was expensive back then, even when you did have a job. You’d be lucky to afford a 1060.

>>513023419
Except the 1080ti was the best card when it released so you need to compare it to the 5090 today.

$920 vs $2,500

>>512989461 (OP)
My GTX850m still work very well

>>513019856
That wallpaper can get you arrested.

>>512989461 (OP)
This whole thread is filled with Ameripoors lol
>muh I still use a 1060 and it works at 720p
lmao

>>513023496
Lol I fix computers for a living. No they don't. Am4 is still the goat

>>513023285
>>513023496
Also you answered my question without answering it. You're an Intel cuck aren't you? Enjoy the jeet programming

>>512991447
i bet there is good profit to be had selling old equipment to your little brother

>>513023649
"best card" is meaningless because you can always have better and therefore make it more expensive. Like imagine if at the same time that the 1080ti launched they also launched a 1099ti Super that cost $2,000 and was twice as powerful, then what? Would that make everything worse? Not to mention that there are better cards than a 5090 that cost 20 times as much, they're not marketed for gaming but you can game with them anyway.

>>513023671
He's a VPN nonce
https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/filename/%23include%20%3Ccmath%3Eint%20main()

>>512989461 (OP)
It isn't so much the 1080Ti is legendary but that it was the last good card in line with the gains we used to see with GPUs. It was also last card to not be priced retarded because it was pre-bitcoin explosion.
GPUs used to double in performance like every 15 months. My first GPU was an 8800GTS 320MB in 2007. It cost me $300.
In 2009 I upgraded to a GeForce GTX 260 216-core, which cost $260. It had about 250% the performance.
This trend of doubling every 15-18 months continued up through Pascal, and had really started in late 90s when GPUs took off.
After PascalI they started pushing AI gimmicks. Even what we call "Raytracing" is actually just AI approximated raytrace. And now Nvidia doesn't even care about gaming performance because it's a tiny percent of the GPU market. Really shitty time to be a PC gamer.

>>513023671
what wallpaper do you have

>>512989461 (OP)
The political implications of this thread are off the charts. I have a 2080ti and nail a solid 60fps at 1440p in bf6. Do I need to spend 3k on a New PC? Let's get serious here

>>512989461 (OP)
>can run latest games at 1080p - 1440p
Press (X) to doubt.

>>513024213
If there was a 1099ti then yes I would say we need to compare that to the 5090 but your fictional card did not exist. The fact is $920 adjusted for inflation was the most people were willing to spend on a top tier card at that time. Today my fellow millennials have gone full consoomer and will pay apparently any price for whatever is called the "best card". The actual specs hardly matter.

>>513002763
They do now, especially price to performance, but back then, AMD cards were dogshit

>>512990452
Most of those games looked great for the time, and even compared to modern stuff still has way more attention put into the design considering the limitations. I'll take half life or ocarina or especially Mario 64s looks over any modern shir

>>512999930
that doesn't even look that good. it's a soulless building with some paint to distract you from how plain everything is

>>513024524
video cards were never used for bitcoin though - that was asics.
ethereum et al were able to use gpus, but ever since proof of stake was implemented, their use is pretty minimal in comparison

>>513025003
this. litecoin and eth were the first cryptos to mine from gpu hardware iirc

>>513024577
The default one.

I've never had a good graphics card because I'm cheap bastard.

>>513024781
Well you can also say "What if the top current card was a RTX 5070 Ti". The RTX 5090 existing (let alone the RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell existing) doesn't change how good the 5070 Ti is.
>will pay apparently any price for whatever is called the "best card"
Yeah and? Some people have so much money to blow that they genuinely want the best possible thing, and the market is delivering. You're not a commie, are you?

>>513024213
>Not to mention that there are better cards than a 5090 that cost 20 times as much, they're not marketed for gaming but you can game with them anyway
They're not really better than the 5090 at gaming. There not really better at anything. Those cards are just 5090s that have been quality tested and have special programs for proof of accuracy in computing. Engineers use those cards for insurance reasons. Which is why they are so pricey.

>>512989461 (OP)
People still try to sell it for too much. I built a now pc for the first time in 15 years recently and settled on a 4070ti but was real close to just getting 1080

>>512989461 (OP)
>last vidya card that Windows 7 could use
and now it's about to go unsupported

>>513025540
Right, I just looked it up and was surprised that they're not more performant at all (although they do have a lot more VRAM).

>>513025453
They are all thw same card (5090)
The 5080 is just a 5090 that didn't pass quality control. Same for every other card in the Nvidia line-up.

Hell even the 5090 is just a chip that didn't pass quality control and was packaged as a "5090".

>>512990413
I have a sandy bridge i5 that I still use regularly for what little gayman that I do. No soulless cowadoody crap for me, no need to spend thousands on a vidya card and cpu to keep up with the latest wokeslop.

>>513021821
No one drinks anymore just smoke

>>513025296
boring
why do not change them?

>PC parts sky high in price
>new tittles nothing but slop with meme tech
>all this for almost a decade
Problem would solve itself over night if retards stopped spending money on trash. Literally just stop. There is nothing worthwhile to CONSOOM.

>>513015914
Stop being such a sentimental cuck she's getting crammed up and creamed out right now

>>512989461 (OP)
it was shitcoin mining that unironically saved nVidia literally right after AMD kept winning the quality control and transistor race. it was OVER for nvidia. FINISHED. nvidia stopped being relevant.
... but then gooks and crypto businesses started hoarding nvidia cards because they were cheap second-choice brand, artificially driving up nvidia prices

>>512989461 (OP)
I hate how much they started jewing people over memory after the 3000 series. That was another moment where things took a turn for the worse. 3060 with 12gb of 192 bit gddr6 to 4060 with 8gb of 128 bit gddr6

ITT I learned just how retarded gamers are. In the past I thought they were pretty retarded for wasting their lives on games, playing shitty modern games, etc.

But the graphics cards shot add another layer to the idiocy. Holy shit.

>>513025003
Not true.
Bitcoin was originally mined with CPUS, then GPUS.
ASICS came later.
Ethereum was the same, but since ASICs existed already, making them for Ethereum was a lot faster.

>meme tech that actually werks
Anyone else using it?

>>512989461 (OP)
no call of duty modern warfare 2 being looked back at fondly is

>>513015914
>I don't even really enjoy games anymore and feel too old to be playing shit

Lol, that's why I never upgraded my RX 580. I have hundreds of games on Steam, GOG, emulators, and seven seas, but the only two games I play from time to time are Overwatch and Rocket League. You can play one or two matches and then stop. There's no text to read, grinding, or anything like that. It's just pure, quick gameplay.
I'll upgrade at some point, but only to mess around with AI and make pictures and videos. However, I don't think the hardware is there yet. You need a 4090 or 5090 to not spent a day to make a small video.

>>512990452
you forgot:
Total Annihilation (plays on Linux but not on windows anymore, lol)
Supreme Commander
Satisfactory
Factorio
UnrealTournament 2004

>>513028547
I only play generals zero hour (command and conquer) and battlefield 1942 with desert combat, but a customer gave me an Rtx4070

>>512989461 (OP)
I paid $600 for a great PC in 2013 that could run everything on max. When this thing came out I thought the price was ludicrous.

>>513028199
explain?

>>512989461 (OP)
>/pol/ Is the 1080TI proof that everything went downhill?

>>513023649
>>513024781
You're right. But you're ignoring the die sizes, TSMC's production markups, Nvidia's capex increases & R&D increases and the lack of competition.

gtx1080 vs rtx5080 vs gtx1080ti vs rtx5090
314mm2 vs 378mm2 vs 471mm2 vs 750mm2

Also if I recall, just prior to the 1080Ti launch, AMD had heavily marketed their upcoming generation which was supposedly competing with the 1080Ti with teasers such as Poor Volta, which had expectations skewed. The rumors pointed to a HMB2 GPU which was about to give team green a run for their money.

The 1080ti's low price was a knee jerk reaction to this. They wanted to undercut AMD and avoid any lost sales prior to AMD's Vega Launch.

Did people here completely forget how they had milked everyone just a few months prior when they initially launched their 10 series cards? Their "Founders" cards were $100 over the AIB cards and were only 100 bucks cheaper than the 1080ti.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5m0eav/poor_volta/

The thing is, AMD's campaign worked. They probably thought that a repeat of the R9 290X vs Titan was going to happen, where they were caught with their pants down. The price reflects exactly that.

>>513028827
alternative image scaling/frame generation. can be pretty good under the right circumstances

>>512989461 (OP)
You only need a graphics card when the console generation shifts.

>>513028776
It's funny what "good times" people will look back to. Like nostalgia for the 2000s. Things are so AIDS now people miss the cancer. GPUs were fucked even then too. The last 'deal' was the 1060.

>>512989461 (OP)
I think nshitia considers the 1080 a failure because they could have realistically charged a lot more for it than they did.

>>512990297
poorfags dont know bout dat 3dfx shit
newfags dont know bout dat world where voodoo magic provided us 3d graphics and nobody cared about racism

>>513032611
I had a Banshee when it came out. felt like a boss rocking 16 mb of vram.

forced obsolescence, you gotta buy a modern ngreedia card anon. you need to spent 1000 dollars if you want performance nowadays anon. its not ngreedias fault they overcharge its muh tsmc and inflation bla bla they probably spend 300-400 dollars to make a 5090 and then sell it for 3k

>>512989461 (OP)
That's not the 5700 xt

>>513015914

I'm a fan of used equipment, but 10 years is a huge difference. I'm not up on all the latest stuff but saw a recent video talking about one of the newer AMD chips supposedly being very good for memory latency or something. Shit is expensive though, and it's hard to justify going all out for a "new" gaming computer.

I think if I were in the market, I'd get a 4-5 year old used system for $300 tops, and then find a mid range gpu for $200 to put in it. There's a lot of HP towers you can get used that have good specs and a powerful enough PSU to run a gaming card.

>>513032965
i had a riva tnt2, which apparently was an nvidia card, and it was shit.
then i heard bout dat voodoo2 shit and it completely changed the game. in 3d. and it already like two years old, i think the voodoo3 was out. and it still shat on that nvidia garbage, effortlessly. real white man engineering.

>>513033547
I got a tnt2 ultra at some point but I was disappointed with it, can't remember what I replaced it with. I can't believe nvidia somehow manage to outgrow both 3dfx and ati.

Will the price of a 4090 RTX ever go down? It cost more than my entire gaming PC with a 3080. It's absurd. How far away are the Chinese from making something like the 4090 but at 10th of the price?

>>512989461 (OP)
MFW I run games at like 720p or 1024x600 on a CRT because the scanlines automatically blur the details and give it a comfy quality while letting me have max details in all the other respects.

High Resolution was a major mistake

>>513032611
Why are you writing like a retard?

>>513031296
You cant compare die sizes between different fab nodes like that, you have to factor in process node size. Transistors havent been getting cheaper over the last few shrinks. Yes they have got more dense but the price increase has been equal to or more than the density increase

You have to multiply the RTX50 dies size by 3x to get a direct comparison against the GTX10 series fabbed at 16nm / 14nm

To fab a 5090 on the same node as a GTX10 series it would be 2200mm2 ish. Thats where the cost difference is