Thread 513012982

what weapon you can get without
>having to register it
>not needing any license
>should not have any restrictions outside of being adult

for me it's a breech loading single shot civil war carbine like picrel

>>513012982 (OP)
Probably a grenade launcher
It is not very effective at home defense however

>>513012982 (OP)
Abortion. We can kill babies and no one bats an eye

>>513013096
Ok, just googled this, and they are (surprisingly) illegal
Flamethrowers are legal tho, so I will change my response to that

>>513012982 (OP)
Without having to register it?
>Serious awnser: Semi auto .50 cal.
>Meme awnser: The media.

>>513012982 (OP)
Can't you basically 3D print assault rifles at home? Like the CF39 or however it's named, you got the blueprints online and it's designed in such a way you can find all the metal pieces in any hardware store.
It's not legal tho, but who cares at this point.

>>513012982 (OP)
I have access to several CNC machines at work, almost any raw material I want as well as a high power cutting laser. I also have access to anodizing baths so I can make appropriate coatings.
I can make pretty much anything during night shift so long as I have the schematic, the only issue might be the barrel itself so I guess I'm limited to smaller cartridges. Obtaining ammo might be the hardest part here though I could probably get tons of casings, manually cast the bullets and replace the primer. Getting smokeless powder would be a challenge. I have made black powder before.

>>513013167
but flamethrowers are garbage weapons.. Anon did ask for the best weapon, not the most memetic one lel.

>>513012982 (OP)
Crossbow
Smaller than 8 cm blade knoife without guard
Pepper spray
Slingshot
Allabay dog

>>513013208
Yeah we can get our hands on anti-materiel rifles pretty handily, barring the cost. Just nothing explosive or automatic.

>>513013332
aren't israelis armed up to the teeth anyway? I'd expect your country to have very lax laws when it comes to guns, you know to shoot arab babies and stuff..

>>513013338
I like to burn my enemies with both my words and in a literal sense too, so you are incorrect
Also I live in a trench

>>513013167
in german law it's funny that black powder falls under german explosives law BUT matchstick powder does not. (which is a drop in replacement for black powder)

so you can own as much matchstick powder as you want without needing any license.

and no it's not a legal loophole, the law EXPLICTLY excludes matchstick powder

>>513013425
>Also I live in a trench
sorry mb then, i didn't know you were in NYC, make sense now.

>>513013353
Oi! You got a loicence for that fully semi automatic assault stick?

The best weapon is always chlorine mustard gas and anyone anywhere can make it at home. Guns are just for people that want freedom and they don't want that

>>513013420
Nope, private ownership of guns is heavily regulated. It has been made easier by recent law changes following Oct 7th but still nothing like america.

>>513013467
My roommate is a 4 foot long rat named Freddie, I would lay my life for him

>>513013452
thanks for sharing

>>513013380
You cant have knives over 8cm long? What Hell

>>513013643
in my experience matchstick powder even causes less fouling than proper black powder, so it's even a small upgrade kekw

>>513013512
>It has been made easier by recent law changes following Oct 7th
how much easier are we talking about here?

>>513012982 (OP)
A pellet gun or crossbow, maybe a flare gun.
I have a glock 19 and being licensed means you can conceal carry, but the police have it now because I shot someone.

>>513013698
Larger than 3 inch is illegal, but babushkas microshops sells illegal everywhere.

>>513012982 (OP)
then you are mental ill american larping. For Germany its G36, German made ar15´s and so on. But you don't know that because your not German. Its expensiver but you can have them. Even shotguns hand guns and assoult Rifles.

>>513013769
ironically flare guns need a gun license here

>>513013766
Basically if you did a full service and continue to do reservist duty you can obtain a pistol license. It used to be limited to active personnel, people who live in dangerous areas(across the green line) and people who need a firearm for their job(security guards)

>>513013809
>all you mentioned requires a red WBK
kys retard

My switchblade.

>>513013769
>because I shot someone
qrd story time?

>>513013826
what about those new magnetic guns zooming little metallic disks? Surely they didn't already shart up a law to make them illegal, r-right?

>>513013901
Pop pop pop watching niggers drop

>>513013906
no railguns do not fall under firearms law.
becase what is a firearm is defined by the kind of ammo it uses.

>>513013906
Bro this ain't Stalker. EM guns need too much power to be hand held.

>>513014028
there is a somewaht functional railgun on the market

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwHRjgVWFno

>>513014028
i've seen portable ones on yt, with the same fire rate than an AR, idk how powerful they are but it seemed in close range it could do some ouchie. But it got zero penetrative power so i guess it would be pointless in a lot of scenarii.

>>513013167
37mm is fine. Problem is munitions are each, individually, serialised and registered destructive devices under the NFA and you'll need IIRC a class 10 FFL to make any use of one.

If we're assuming a 4473 counts as registry or restriction (because it is) and not blatantly breaking any laws then we're probably talking about an AR-10 built off an 80% receiver.

.50 cal rifle but will take a while of gun ownership to get approval.

>>513012982 (OP)
Black powder Remington 1858 or Colt SAA : you just need to be 18+
Black powder and Smokeless powder are not restricted at all
Bullets you can buy or forge yourself with lead from fishing bait, or car batteries
Primers you may make them at home : plenty of tutoriels available from when r*ssian invasion started and we ended up with a shortage.

Also, almost all pre-1900 weapons can be bought when you are 18+, but you are limited ton vintage ammo : modern reproductions or refills are forbidden until you have a hunting or a sport-shooting license

>>513014120
My main issue with these things is that they have the same exact weakness as classic firearms - moisture and corrosion, fixing a regular gun can often be done with manually operated tools, you don't even need power in many cases, while dealing with batteries will always require a specialized workshop.

>>513014433
damn, percussion repaters are restricted here.
however flintlock repeaters are fine. (yes those exist)

>>513012982 (OP)
>>513013452
I would rather have that, than no firearm.

>>513012982 (OP)

Britbonger here.
I tried to buy a carving knife to cut my sunday dindins but was prevented because I didnt have proof of age on me. I'm late 40s but you need to be over 18 and prove it in order to buy.

Had to just tear the turkey apart with a couple of forks like an animal.

Thanks politicians.

Meanwhile outside...

>>513014628
in shooting range conditions I managed 24 shots a minute with my sharps carbine

>>513014424
You can probably get a 20mm but IIRC there's only 2 mile ranges in the UK so you'd better fucking live right next door.

>>513013801
>this is Putin's Russia

privyet tovarish

>>513012982 (OP)
In an unarmed society, my well maintained 1911 makes me a god.

>>513014603
You know which souvenir to bring home next time you come here, Hans ;)

>>513015005
if I really wanted a percussion repeater I can just drive ~50 KM to austria. they are completly free there

>>513014943
They would literally all kill eachother if they had your gun laws. I'm not kidding.

>>513015005
will a day old baguette get the job done against invaders?

>>513015059
Good to know about Austria

>>513012982 (OP)
fun fact. even a convicted murderer on parole and house arrest in america can get the following shipped DIRECTLY TO THEIR DOOR. the europoor cannot comprehend this. it makes them seethe. Because its blackpowder. you basically get two good shots. and to be fair... it will fit in ur waste band. and is not considered an ffl required firearm. but if a murderous felon uses it in a nother commission of crime it will be considered a firearm / deadly weapon. https://internationalsportsman.com/double-barreled-12-gauge-shotgun-pistol-review-the-diablo/

>>513015093
our gun laws vary by state, but yes, i'd imagine so

>>513012982 (OP)
Probably a crossbow. You can get a shotgun fairly easily but do still need a licence for that.

>>513015093
putin even restriced the access to rifled guns in 2022 because he is so afraid of assasination kekw

>>513013698
Nor can you. Anyone can have them, igor means to carry. You can’t do that either without a lawful excuse for needing it. Though states vary america’s knife laws are generally the same as the uk

>>513015166
>>513015093
If you are not mentally ill, like me, it's easy to get the carabine or 2 barrel gun.

>>513015159
>https://internationalsportsman.com/double-barreled-12-gauge-shotgun-pistol-review-the-diablo/
I mean.. two pies and a nail make a shotgun anyway. I have no clue why they even try to ban them in the first place

>>513015175
lmao @ ziggers

>>513015104
Not hard enough, you need to wait about 3 days for a baguette to harden to consider using it as a weapon
Spare pick-axe handles are more efficient

>>513012982 (OP)
With enough money I could drive around with a grenade launcher in my state

>>513012982 (OP)
>best weapon without restrictions
Szabla, because black powder smokes nasty.

>>513015477
oh yeah I have heard that your gun laws are even more retarded than german ones

>>513015230
You mean a shotgun?

>>513015878
You know what I mean.

>>513012982 (OP)
Either a compound bow or samurai sword.
All guns need to be registered + licence.

>>513015268
whats really funny are t he bangsticks they use for alligators. not considered a firearm despite firing centerfire cartridges from 22 to 12 gauge to 444 marlin and 357. its like a roman javelen but much more....... well..... explosive. they are like 15 bucks... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kfVFPrYGJjs

A 767

>>513015570
Depends. Strict gun laws were legacy of decades of commie totalitarism. However, since Russian invasion on Georgia it seems as if each next government wants actually to arm people and turn Poland into Finland/Israel (but without military conscription). Right now getting gun license for semi auto (no matter if .22 pistol or 7.62x51 rifle) is now as easy as getting driving license. Few years ago there was even discussion on allowing full auto under standard license, so this will probably come back on the table with next Russian chimpout.

However decades of communism killed gun culture in society and there are very few people who actually bother to get any license and without license it's basically black powder.

>>513016254
>A 767
actually true. as global airways has proofen, you can just buy a fucking airbus a380 without any kind of checks.
so if you have the cash, have fun with your man-piloted ballistic missle

>>513012982 (OP)
Full auto assault rifles are legal for sporting purposes, although you need to be a member a sport shooting club who can give you a recommendation for owning a full auto AK or AR. also, you need to build a dedicated armory in your house in order to own one, protected with iron bars and such. The reason why most people don't get one is because currently there's no civilian shooting discipline that uses such guns and dedicated sport shooters only buy guns for competition use only.

>>513016124
rather have a diablo. arent u aussies allowed to have pump action shotguns? ji have a mini14 post 2005 which shoots 1moa with a folding AND collapsable stock. and a 9mm walther ppq m2 with a light for my bedside. and a benelli 12 gauge that fires semi or pump depending what switch you choose. also a pa63 makarov forr ccw. and a taurus 605 in 357 for t he same. and a 22 / 22 mag intercharngable cyllinder herritage rough ryder. also i didnt take the vax. or get locked into a conentration camp like you guys did. for refusing the vax . i am superior to you. also i have my dads old 1903 springfield 30-06 and mauser i miss him. he was a hillarious man. and very based.

>OP Germany flag
>waht's the best weapon you can get in your country

>>513012982 (OP)
>what's the best weapon you can get in your country?

>picrel
Can't even own a crossbow or broad heads for a longbow. Literally have less rights than a 12th century serf. Also no right to defend yourself, you have to run away (because clearly running away from a murderer with a knife, who's probably younger/faster than you and got the jump on you is going to work out well).

>>513017821
I thought Japan is a safe country.

>>513018018
relativly speaking yeah. but retards exist everywhere

>>513018018
not anymore. Lots of browns and chinks here now.
>t. chinks tried to steal my car

>>513013338
Flamethrowers are terrific weapons in the appropriate context, armchair retard.

>>513013801
How wide can it be?

>>513014028
If you rigged it up to fire a narrow enough needle you could kill even with the pathetic power of a handheld magnetic launcher.

>>513012982 (OP)
>Tyreese
>Give these niggas a volley

>>513018327
I think cops don't arrest you because of pizza knife.
>That is mine.

Ice pick, you can keep it in your car with plausible deniability. Bonus: you might need it for its origonal function at some point.

>>513013299
No. 3D printed guns are a meme. When people claim they are 3D printing a gun, what they are really doing is printing the receiver. All the important components (barrel, trigger, BCG, etc.) of the firearm are still purchased from proper manufacturers.

The only guns that can be 100% 3D printed are shitty single shot pistols that break after firing a few shots through them.

>>513015005
I got a crossbow in your country like lots of Spaniards do. Your country is surprisingly based regarding to weapons.

>>513018645
^this

this is also why the Lutty is still peak homemade firearms, because it uses not a single gun part, outside of the ammo.

>>513013299
what's the printer for?

>>513017821
>Can't even own a crossbow or broad heads for a longbow
just make them, they are medieval technology.

>>513012982 (OP)
The best would be any repeating black powder catridge firearm like pic related or some revolvers. Ammo is impossible to get legally though. Powder is easy to get, bullets can be cast from scrap lead but (Belgian logic) empty shell casings are illegal to possess without a license.

>>513012982 (OP)
I dont know. I have. both legally and illegally owned guns. I never searched what can i own years ago when i did training for gun license. All i kno2 is tgat my friend who works in army tells me we have rather chill gun laws in czechia.

>>513018690
I have Luty's manual. I haven't tried to actually make it though since I'm still learning the necessary skills.

>>513013167
There’s no way flamethrowers are legal in the US. Didn’t you guys deem it a warcrime to use them?

>>513019113
Flamethrowers are legal federally, but some states have put restrictions on their ownership.

>>513019077
I have his book to and I even improved on his design a bit. I scaled it up do shoot .50 AE.

basially a open bolt desert eagle SMG without rifleing

>>513019424
Nice. Have you had a chance to actually shoot it? I can't imagine there are too many gun ranges in Germany that would be cool with someone walking in with a homemade SMG. Hell, most "official" ranges in the US wouldn't even be cool with it.

>>513019587
yeah. it worked but I had to reduce the powder charge of the ammo slightly to get it to work reliably.

I destroyed it now for legal reasons. Was mostly just intrested if I could make one.

>what's the best weapon you can get legally
It really depends on how you want to define "weapon".
Remember the damage uncle Ted did with just a bit of anthrax.

>>513013420
Jews are famously paranoid and neurotic. And just because their neighbors are jews doesn't mean they can ever stop jewing.
>OI VEY MOISHE, MOISHE GET IN HERE
>I THINK FRANK HAS A GUN!
>I TOLD YOU NOT TO MAKE HIM MAD AND NOW HE'S GOING TO KILL US OY VEY
>...Oh, never mind, he went inside, I guess he was just cleaning it
>...
>G-ddamn it Sara, that's the 5th time this week.

>>513012982 (OP)
gew88

>>513019715
That's cool. Once I'm confident in my skills, I'll take a crack at making the 9mm version. The only modification I plan on making is putting some rifling in the barrel for improved accuracy.

>>513019870
really? you can get. smokeless gun without registration?

>>513012982 (OP)
there are 7 states here that require some type of registration - for the other 43 we have semiauto up to .50 caliber

>>513018018
not with batteries and a double barrel shotgun it isnt. Shinzo may he rest in peace. . but this is available to amer icans basically nation wide. shit i think the only requirement is to not be in california or chicago and be at least 18. get it right to your door. you can be a murdering (not based) rapist (very based) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch8HS4XclQc

>>513012982 (OP)
Any firearm made before 190p

>>513018459
i was there. i remember.

>>513019870
what's even the law there?
gewehr88 is an "odd" choice for the "best" weapon.

since it's smokeless and bolt action repeater surely better bolt action smokeless repeaters must be legal (the gewehr 88 is kinda trash)

>>513020019
>>513020116
Yep, anything made before end of 1890 is just 18+. You can even own ammo legally as long as you can find someone who is willing to sell you...
Gews are stamped with year when produced so as long as there is 1888/1889/1890 it is perfectly legal.
It's not a perfect gun, but one of the best you can have unregistered - most will eat 8x57JS if you are brave enough, so you are not bound by some obscure ammo you need to reload yourself.

>>513018986
europe is easy mode. Just drive to eastern europe, buy whatever you want, then drive back.

>>513019113
sawed off shotguns were declared warcrimes but then outlawed in the US because their only use it to fight wars ("no sporting use"). US laws make no sense.

>>513020629
>Yep, anything made before end of 1890
kek. I'll keep that in mind when I drive over the border next time.

>>513020629
a lot of the 8x57js is underloaded these days (I think european cartridges may still be full power, but PPI is weak at least). You can shorten the barrel quite a bit and then it becomes quite handy.

>>513019113
Hollowpoints are illegal in war but legal for civilians and cops...

>>513020939
tear gas is also a warcrime, but completly fine to use on your own citzens

>>513012982 (OP)
Probably an ICBM but not allowed to be nuclear here

>>513016366
there is unbelievable amounts of regulation and red tape involving airplanes. You don't just simply "buy a jet".

>>513020764
All old military cartridges are because some dumbass will inevitably put it in an old rifle

>>513020734
Some changes were made recently - you must have permanent residence in CZ otherwise it's considered gun export and seller can be fucked by the state, but not that many people know this, kek.
In Slovakia there is no such condition in law and same rule applies (1890). Just saying.
>>513020764
Yep Mauser match by PPI is considered 8x57J. Turks used 8x57JS... if the barrel is stamped with S, you should be fine with 8x57JS.

>>513021183
The regs are probably around flying it

>>513021183
>You don't just simply "buy a jet".
but this dude literally bought an 380
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Airlines it without any kind of certifications

>>513021246
ah faking perment resendency would be a non issue for me. I live right accross the border

>>513012982 (OP)
Depends on country. In Britain they are seizing kitchen knives you know.

you may probably get with compound bow or crossbow

Please come and nuke us. I beg you

>>513013380
This. But dog is not weapon, dog is friend

>>513012982 (OP)
We have three categories.

1: Weapons that require no licensing, registration or exemption.
2: Weapons that require an exemption
3: Weapons that require licensing, registration and reasoning

For category 1 the best you’ll get is a bow or a knife. A single shot pistol is exempt from regulation if it was manufactured before 1900, and a longarm manufactured before 1900 is exempt if the ammunition is not commercially available. These would include flint locks, cap locks and so on, but can be incredibly difficult to find and if you do find them they’re usually very expensive. They are however technically the “best” weapons you can get in Cat 1.
For category 2 you are looking at repeating mag fed crossbows, swords and so on. Category 3 is modern firearms.

>>513021479
You didn't get the irony.

>>513021479
Just look at the pic, that cute Caucasian Shepherd can be dangerous.

>>513012982 (OP)
Myself.

>>513013096
>not very effective at home defense
I mean, it'd be affective but you prob wouldnt have a home afterwards

>>513020764
That is really good advice lol

>>513012982 (OP)
A bluntened butterknife, as long as I keep it inside and dont take it out for a picnic

>>513015197
>america’s knife laws are generally the same as the uk
no they fucking aren't lmao. There's zero restrictions in most states apart from a couple gays ones that ban dumb shit like switch blades.

>>513021183
>You don’t just simply “buy a jet”

>>513012982 (OP)
The Word of God.

>>513012982 (OP)
i know a guy with a Currasier tank-hunter, de-mil'd tho.
my best blaster is a rhodesian sr1, enfield production.

t.austrian

>>513013299
Yes.

>>513018645
Retard the FGC-9 can be built with zero firearm components. DIY barrel, trigger, bolt, etc. That was the entire point.

>>513016410
You son of a bitch. I'm in .

>>513013380
holy shit thats an intimidating fluffy boi

>>513021843
>my best blaster is a rhodesian sr1, enfield production.
but that's a Category B weapon and requires regisration if I recall my Austrian Gun law knowledge correctly.

>>513012982 (OP)
Pepper gas, but by law the concentration of capsaicin is limited to a ridiculous amount, so it's totally ineffective in real life

>>513021799
Switch blades are a gimmick, never understood why they’re banned. Having a button to deploy the blade doesn't make it any deadlier, if anything it makes it prone to malfunction over time since it’s another mechanism to service. Laws surrounding blade deployment mechanisms are stupid as fuck.
>>513021867
Fuck the fgc9 theres way easier shit now.
There’s a gun that uses nine parts and you don’t even need a printer, you can do it with sheet metal. It is genuinely over for gun control in the states. Go look at the gun luigi Mangioni used
Cunt printed his own silencer :/

They are going to ban 3d printers most likely

>>513021369
sane - informed seller would require ID to prove you have it...
btw airguns are unlimited here as well - up to 6.35mm

>>513021407
>. In Britain they are seizing kitchen knives you know.
No they don't.

>>513022061
gonna see if I can get a colt single action army or something like that.

I doubt for a black powder revolver not many questions will be asked.

Smokeless guns are kinda useless to me because getting your hand on smokeless ammo reliably here is a bit hard without attracting the glowniggers.

>>513012982 (OP)
>he doesn't know


Do your research next time, retard.
Yes, pic related counts as a "muzzle loader" and doesn't require a loicence. Have fun.

Appalachia is pretty good.

picrel is my front yard

>>513022192
no, repeating muzzle loaders when using priming caps require a yellow WBK in germany.

but in austria they are cetegory D and therefore 18+

>>513021928
so?

>>513022278
well I was more intrested what doesn't need to be registered.

>>513018645
>The only guns that can be 100% 3D printed are shitty single shot pistols that break after firing a few shots through them.
this is absolutely incorrect I’m sorry lol
You are fully wrong I am really sorry dude. People have printed 99% PLA+ frames with just a metal barrel insert and breach and run the things semiauto with a FRT trigger for 400+ rounds without malfunction, it’s 2025

https://youtube.com/shorts/yeQvCK9D5_g

Hybrids exist where you can put a manufactured glock slide on a PLA frames for example yes but they’re not the only things that exist by any means
- it’s too late to even ban printers, too many exist already

>>513021839
touché

>>513013508
>wind blows in your direction

this thing, probably. gotta stay strapped in case a stray polar bear gets in, man.

>>513012982 (OP)
>>513012982 (OP)
Without registering or licensing? Not much.
Though, that said, most garden tools make great makeshift weapons. Pic related. Kama are probably the poster-boy ninja weapon besides swords and shuriken.
Personally, I'd rather have a mallet or a ball-peen hammer but that's only because I don't know how to use a kama like a pro.

>>513021905
It consume a lot of food. Good if you have a freezer full of liver.

>>513022313
How are you gonna feed it though? Black powder and lead bullets can be made fairly easily at home but smokeless is going to be tough. Then you'll need the casings and primers.

>>513022788
yeah some kind of 3d printed revolver would make more sense because revolver handle black powder better

>>513018645
https://youtube.com/shorts/NdNsD-3-Jek
> barrel, trigger, BCG of the firearm are still purchased from proper manufacturers.
you can ecm a $10 hydraulic pipe from Temu in a bucket using batteries or tap through a tapered rod for the barrel, trigger are easy. You would need to ban water and metal to stop people machining barrels. Bcgs are a square piece of bar stock and a nail shaped with a metal file or a solid chunk of PLA with a metal breach plate epoxy’d to the front

>>513022634
I hear kusarigama are effective at taking down swords, there is a technique to it though
if you miss that ball and chain swing youre going to eat the katana every time
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qf-kUuRfSXU

>>513019113
People use flamethrowers to clear their (often miles long) driveways or snow and weeds in the US. Nothing I just said was a lie or exageration.

>>513022788
Theres ways, but I don’t bother since it’s actually easier to just go the legal route.
If it really came to it someone who was determined could do it though

I saw a guy make a gun out of literal tampons and an air compressor earlier. Anything can be a projectile if you want it to be.
Also ammunition isnt the only commercially available things that use smokeless powder, it’s used in heaps of shit
https://youtube.com/watch?v=FFe4x-rSL7c

>>513013338
>What war had the most prolific use of flamethrowers?
>French flag

>>513013299
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tQB_ib-KQXA

>>513023021
imagine dying to a tampon

>>513018748
Printing that mould by the looks of it.

>>513014870
Very true. The military ranges I shoot at let you shoot up to .308 at least. Gun club owner near me has a .50 listed on his certificate but never gets to shoot it.

>>513023201
>imagine dying to a tampon
well you could get aids if it was already used

>>513023021
That's one way to call someone a pussy.

>>513019113
The US has swarms of insects called "Hornets" and "Wasps" that are very annoying and hard to kill instantly. They will just continue to mob you as you swing a bat into their tiny bodies and crush them, 5 go down, 60 sting you still. Poison doesn't work fast enough. Flammenwerfer is the only tool that can do the job

>>513021246
from experience, the turk stuff is hotter than the original JS. I believe due to degradation/turks being turks.

>>513022313
>just a metal barrel insert and breach
not 3D printed retard

>>513021418
Thank god it didn't get into the wrong hands.

>>513023642
a fully automatic assault spoon

>>513020629
You'd be a lot better off with a Lee-Metford or MLE if you can find one.

>>513012982 (OP)
A gaggle of gyppos

>>513021418
You really need to go back to calling them the Spastics.

>>513022183
there are not that many shops specialized in historical guns as far as I know. best way is to keep looking for good deals on teh interwebz.
if single action is what you are looking for, then I would recommend s&w baby russian .38sw usually goes for 1k euro. colt will be more pricey

>>513013332
Honestly, it's easier just to buy a decommissioned weapon and then all you need is to redo the barrel and add firing pin.

>>513022634
I carry a four dollar light fish filleting knife in a plastic sheath clipped outside my belt, crossdraw, ostentatiously when niggers are around. It's very light and can kill up to infinity niggers. I have a machete in the car but would not like to go up against a couple of daily machete users with it. I'd rather fancy my chances of closing the gap and going like a sewing machine.

>>513023880
yeah I'd defnitly go single action mostly for safety reasons. If I have to go to the hostpial with a accidentally inflicted gunshot wound the cops get called immidetly and it's joever for me

>>513022183
>gonna see if I can get a colt single action army
But why though. They're still around because of replicas, and they're around because boomer cowboy LARPing.
If you're going for an original there are better revolvers and certainly a lot more of those knocking around Europe. Colt didn't make good guns, he made cheap guns and they're not cheap any more c/o boomer LARP.

>>513022313
That's a painted Hi-Point dumbass, you can still make out the factory markings.

>>513018530
>SOG Terminus
This cheap ass knife has no business being this good. I bought one of these for like $7 from a chink shopping app and I've been carrying it since. Smooth bearing action. Excellent blade for the price. Cheap enough to be considered expendable or given away on a whim.

Excellent choice Ivan.

>>513024090
well i should have said single action black powder revovler, the colt single action army was just popped up in my head.

>>513024248
Most of the old Euro revolvers were DA, you'd have to go out of your way.

>>513012982 (OP)
Shotgun, rifle, or .22 pistol/revolver

>>513024297
don't know to much about the 19th century european revolvers.

I just know that the german Reichsrevolver was pure garbage

>>513024231
I'm a big fan of the Ganzo axis lock knockoffs. Excellent beater knives.

>>513024164
gotcha nigger

>>513024440
Yeah they were not great. Find yourself a Belgian commercial model Adams or similar. No need to go after the military trash.

>>513023021
I wonder if you could modify nerf guns into gyorjet weapons.
Packing a hollowed out nerf with an explosive load plus trigger, then attaching some solid propellant similar to a solid rocket booster should do the trick. With how big nerfs are it should be possible to accelerate it to lethal speeds when using an air compressor on top, the hardest part is most likely building and fitting a trigegr mechanism for the whole thing that ignites the propellantwhile making sure the Nerf is accelerated straight ahead before ignition for a tleast a modicum of precision.

>>513024855
gyrojet style guns are ridicously easy to home make the trigger and the magazine spring are the only moving parts AND it can be made all from aluminium because nothing needs to hold pressure. . but getting the ammo right is the hard part.

>>513024855
I always wondered why the doorcuck of halle was hell bent on using his shitty blak powder lutty instead of going the gyrojet route

>>513021418
fencing is a popular sport in bongtania, right?
even we have sword gyms and shit. medieval re-enactors, movie stunt schools, jousting and shit.

>>513025132
My first thought was of him as well. Unfortunately only mentally ill people do shit like this, and they tend to be total faggots for obvious reasons. Probably thought he wasn't worth going out with style so he took the boring and gay route.
Imagine, even if you suffer critical failure a gyrojet would at least let you go out iwth a bang, and if it does work as intended you turn into an IRL space marine that will surely vanquish any pesky doors in your way in a hail of righteous explosives.

>>513025634
there can't be really a critical failure with a gyrojet. because nothing in it should be explosive. at worst the gyrojet ammo will get stuck inside the barrel.

>>513021246
THANKS bro for the info bro, this is BIG

>>513013353
Nice stick mate.

>>513025634
also funfact:
the original gyrojet ammo was so hot when fired, it melts into some kinds of body armor and because it'S a rocket and not a real bullet, it just keeps pushing into the bodyarmor. that would proabbly scare any person who gets hit with that even when its not lethal

>>513024231
I got it on marketplace for the same price.

There's absolutely a federal registry/list kept of all firearms legally purchased in the US, whether you want to admit it or not...so the correct answer is flamethrower...flamethrowers are entirely off the books, thats the answer

>>513026297
that's proabbly why removing the serial number of a gun is a felony in the USA, right?

>>513014731
How nigger ls can buy huge knives, and English can't even buy a Swiss knife without loicense ?

>>513012982 (OP)
An idea

>>513026520
>le funny meme

>>513026520
German laws are pretty schizo too, you can buy swords and blunt weapons with no problems, but no brass knuckles or even pepper spray, and if you have a license to buy and own pepper spray you can only use it to fend off animals. Absolute nigger country.

>>513026486
Yeah, lol...idk if youre trying to be sarcastic because you're a midwit and think you caught me, but that's exactly the reason...if there's no registry and no list, there's no need for a serial number

>>513026693
I was not sarcastic

>>513012982 (OP)
I think I could easily find an ak or guns,
you just need to ask to some mafioso terrone.
Some years ago Police found aks in stuffed animals in a mafious villa near my parents house.
And I'm in north Italy and everyone knows that that family was clearly some ndrangheta family but police took 20 years before do something

>>513026645
Funnily enough, I have been checking German laws recently, particularly regarding self defence and I did note the part of animal spray. You have some interesting laws anon.

The anon you replied to was talking crap by the way, people read shit on 4chan and think it's true.

>>513012982 (OP)
>the best weapon you can get

Sorry I'm late. I had to get the rice on and the chicken in the oven.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_10
https://www.thesurvivalistblog.net/smith-and-wesson-model-10-review/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFYn5KChBvo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyuWY3NU3e8
https://www.gunbroker.com/Revolvers/search?Keywords=Model%2010&PageSize=96&Sort=4&View=1&Ch-model=10
www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEHNZFTfSD8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkWlIhaeuaY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaiGSDiaI_w
https://www.thesixgunjournal.net/a-revolver-buyers-checklist/

>>513026948
Not even vaguely close by any metric and you'll be filling out a 4473 for that.

>>513027356
>metric
That's quite a big word for an american

>>513027509
That's because I'm not an American. I feel like a rocket surgeon around here but it's really fucking annoying when your language has minimum 3 different ways to say any given thing and the local pidgin only uses one. It's like fumbling for the right key in the dark.

>>513012982 (OP)
Inherited all my rifles and side arms from my grampa and dad when they passed. None are registered and none are required by federal law to be registered. So I guess inheriting old firearms is the answer.

>>513027356
>t. doesn't know how to legally get guns off the books
>also has no soul
Sad. Many such cases.

>>513012982 (OP)
lemat revolver you stupid faggots

'Grandfathered' firearms at swapmeets/gunshows. Plenty of stuff falls through the cracks from antiques to war trophies. Though there are some Jew laws allowing ownership but not use.

I can't get anything better

>>513027837
ah fuck no loicence, well a knife i guess

>>513026520

Laws are only for white people. 2-tier system.

>>513014731
Its so insane you guys are debating over "right" to have knives, while here we are fighting to get suppressors legal.

>>513028048
>thinking that anon was telling the truth
Oh my days.

>>513026645
So you can make matchbook explosives and katana niggers, but you cant use self defense spray without a carry license?

>>513016718
That thing looks like it's from red alert 2.

>>513028182
Correct, you need a small weapons license to carry/buy pepper spray and aren't allowed to use it against humans.

>>513026911
Krauts love sperging over minor details and overregulating.

>>513018986
What about primers, they seem to be the thing that will limit a societies ability to reload.

>>513019113
get on my level nigga. it's a tactical torch. you can get if from ebay.

>>513028357
>you need a small weapons license to carry/buy pepper spray
Are you sure about that?

I thought animal defence spray was legal as long as it was correctly labelled, didn't notice anything about a licence?

>>513012982 (OP)
WITHOUT a special license or registration? Probably an M2 Browning with a semi auto conversion kit or a hand cranked minigun.

>>513013167
They are legal but you need to pay a tax stamp like a suppressor. Theyre classified as destructive devices.

>>513019979
What is this luty that you speak?
Certainly don't want to use my search engine.

>>513028507
Effectively every defense spray is an animal defense spray, and as far as I remember you need a license to carry/purchase pepper spray.

>>513012982 (OP)
Deagle brand Deagle

>>513028605
a 9 mm SMG that uses exactly 0 gun parts. and can be made by stuff you can get from home depot

>>513028507
Correction: I looked it up, animal spray doesn't require a license, pepper spray for use against humans does.

>>513013722
What about the blackpowder guns themselves muzzle loaders arent even legally considered guns here

>>513013722
can you own black powder revolvers? you would have 6 shots before you reload

>>513028712
Can you guys get bear spray?

>>513021319
>The company initially proposed to operate its aircraft with five classes of service including an uncertified "Gamer class"
Gamers rise up (in the air)

>>513028712
So you can use animal spray on humans and say that you keep it with you in case a bear attack you

>>513028861
forgot pic.

>>513028861
There aren't enough bears (if any permanently) for there to be a market, the last bear who crossed the alps and entered Bavaria made huge headlines.

>>513028724
>>513028842

>What about the blackpowder guns themselves

depends but the TL;DR is this

match & flintlocks
=> all variations are legel 18+. they can even be repeaters (yes those exist) and multi barrel.

percussion cap guns:
must be single shot and NOT repeating and SINGLE barrel and then it'S 18+

if a gun is muzzle or breech loading does not matter

I guess I put it into american terms

>sharps carbine legal 18+
>lever action repeaters requires regisration and gun license
>cap & ball revolvers also gun license and registration

>>513027356
>4473
lol dumbass. i did some work for my grandpa's buddy and he paid me with a S&W snub nose revolver. it was deafeningly loud so i didn't keep it long. try having a life mr. 4473.

Probably a rubber spork.

>>513012982 (OP)
A cap and ball revolver or something like a chassepot rifle or one those rare fast loading pre 1890 designs.

>>513028925
We're starting to see black bears move back into Alabama after being gone for a century. They got hunted out during the Great Depression. One on Tuscumbia ate some guys tomatoes from his garden and then hung out for several days eating pears from his tree.

>>513012982 (OP)
Tea spoon, butter knife and house brick.

If I remember right, anything considered an antique, the definition is somthing that's 100 year old.

So technically a a Lewis Gun, I doubt the cunts would let that flay tho.

>>513028937
>percussion cap guns:
>must be single shot and NOT repeating and SINGLE barrel and then it'S 18+
>if a gun is muzzle or breech loading does not matter
So can you get a dreyse?

>>513012982 (OP)
Airsoft gun

>>513028700
Sauce, or general direction of info?
Or just put luty in Anna's search bar?

>>513028925
One would expect a German to know of oven cleaner

>>513023895
These things aren't sold willy nilly and even if I did manage to get one, I'd end up on a list. It's better to make one from scratch.

>>513029259
no a dreye has primed ammo.

prime ammo weapons ALWAYS need a license & registration. the sharps carbine (as an example) still has percussion caps, so it'S just 18+

>>513029149
They've been hunted to extinction here in the mid-nineteenth century, any bear who gets spotted here causes a huge media ruckus. Wolves are making a comeback though, some settled back here permanently.

>>513029311
you literal nigger. you are proabbly also to scared to download the anarchists cookbook from archive.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YE9J7qcj0c

>>513029251
Not exactly but you are on the right lines.

technically it's an antique before 1939 but it also has to do with the Ammo it fires and if it's compatible with current rounds.
For example the old Henri-Martini rifle would be a licence free gun . . . .good luck finding ammo for it though.

There are caveats but you can own these licence free.

>>513029251
Is also like a puckle gin, just look at that brass!

Best? How about favorite.

>>513029401
Ok, in sweden its just
>pre 1890
>no self contained gas tight cartride
So as long as its not metal cartridges you're good.

>>513028602
no you don't

>>513029472
Thanks.
>Henri-Martini

What a gun, so iconic. I'm guessing making your own black powder rounds for it is very very iliagal?

>>513029472
Just buy some vintage brass and reload it or get a lathe and copy the design. I did that to get some 30mm

>>513028357
>>513028712
Still crazy. In America, (if you have the money) you can legally own an anti-tank/anti-aircraft gun.

>>513029658
Even if you had rounds for it, it's not illegal.

But the moment you fire it, even for practise at a target, you need a FAC for it.

It's licence free - provided it's ornamental or a collectors item.

>>513012982 (OP)
Why didn’t Austrian use trapdoor gun?

>>513013332
Fuck off kike

>>513012982 (OP)
>3D master race
https://litter.catbox.moe/rfjf64xk104xubsn.mp4
Bonus
>Yanky Boogle
https://litter.catbox.moe/9j4vz8x7lgyov8yb.mp4

>>513029743
I know, the 2A is something I truly envy the US for. The state's monopoly on violence is a failed experiment.

>>513013488
>its fully semi automatic

>>513029851
I'd be more into the collecting side of things but not been able to fire it just isn't right, sowrds are more my thing but now they are cracking down on that.

>>513012982 (OP)
Don’t let Jews tell you what weapons you can or cannot have.
They want to abuse and then kill you , get what you can to defend yourself from them even if it’s illegal.

>>513012982 (OP)
SAM-7. This is a Bulgarian AK-47. Kalashnikov himself believed these to be of better quality than the Russian ones. Because of some Jew laws, they have to be imported in a sporting configuration before being retrofitted back to military pattern by Arsenal, Inc. Also, they are semiautomatic-only.

>>513029382
>These things aren't sold willy nilly
Actually, they're surprisingly easy to come by but then maybe Israel is different.
> I'd end up on a list.
Well, look, I was kind of hoping you'd use your head here. This is where your local junkie - in your case corrupt arab - comes in.
>it's better to make one
You seem like the type who likes projects but if it were me it's the way I'd go about it. A big thing here is people with licenses who find themselves in dire straights through gambling or drugs will often stage an aggravated burglary and their firearms and ammo goes for a good price. They have plausible deniability and can keep their license. There's tons of ways and where there's a will then there's a way.

>>513013801
where the fuck do you even get this shit, idiot? Ask mama to show you the kitchen knife.

>>513013096
>grenade launcher
Nope the launcher is a destructive device (DD) banned in most states and requires strict NFA permitting, each grenade is also a DD requiring the same process and restrictions (e.g. lots of states banning them). You probably open yourself up to all sorts of state and local regulations about storage and use of them too. Unironically I think machine guns are easier to get in this country.

For real the best you can probably do no registration (except for cuck states) firepower wise is an AR-15 or AR-10 with a Forced Reset Trigger and an actual high capacity drum mag.

>>513013096
Destructive Device, requires registration. Try again. Best we can do legally without the government getting involved is a home manufactured semi automatic rifle.

>>513029472
>good luck finding ammo for it though.
It does exist supposedly, I looked into getting a martini henry and it's not allowed without a licence because you can buy the ammo still according to the government.

>>513015197
I can buy a curved sword or a “ninja” sword and get it shipped straight to my house no problem and I can carry a handgun with no permit whatsoever

>>513013769
>conceal carry

>>513012982 (OP)
Kek, for some fuckin' reason the pic posted upside-down. Here, try this.

>>513029428
The Great Depression was pretty bad here. just about all the wildlife of any kind got hunted for food. Conservationists made a concerted effort to reintroduce prey species people wanted to hunt in the 1940s and 1950s. Predator species have followed more slowly.

>>513030377
Can you get a Snider? I use cut down fiocchi 24 gauge hulls and .577 mini balls to make cartridges.

>>513030377
It's still legal here without a licence mate.

>>513030223
Read the law first.

>>513029937
Well what's your matchbook powder + hobby drone laws like?

>>513030060
When I'm King, it will be culturally and legally required for every Englishman to own a bow and arming sword. Pluse way more relaxed fire arms laws.
That way if I'm I'm a cunt you have the option of challenging me to a bow off, Sword duel, or open rebellion.

>>513030611
Yeah you can, was just looking to see if i could find one for sale. Not sure you can buy the powder for anything without a licence though.
>>513030617
I meant here.

>>513030214
Losing your weapon as a soldier wether it was stolen or not nets you a couple of years in prison here and while there are instances of guys who do it, it's usually for a big criminal organization.
Nobody would sell a demilitarized gun to an Arab or a junkie, the control is very serious.
Honestly the only things I'd have a hard time manufacturing myself would be the barrel and the ejection/gas system as well as a trigger mechanism though I suspect I could simply order them online. Guys in the army often mod their kit with store bought parts here.
The barrel however is a different story. I suppose I could drill one myself, but I doubt I could manage a full length rifle barrel. Maybe a submachine gun. Come to think of it, I bet I could make a Sten within a week.

>>513018645
Did you even read the post you’re replying to? Fucking midwit retard GET OFF MY BOARD

>>513015197
>>513013698
Let me explain while Igor mommy shows him the kitchen for the first time.
If a knife is simultaneously:
- longer than 9 cm;
- thicker than 2,5 mm but les than 6 mm;
- has a guard;
- also has appropriate hardness;
- and a pointy tip.
than it is a "cold weapon" so you need a license.
Also folding knife could not be automatical.
That's about it.

>>513021532
Shad is from Australia and he has like 200 swords and he's such a sperg that he carries them around all the time.
>>513028842
>ocelots are proud creatures, they prefer to hunt alone.

>>513030499
I wonder how small arms technology would look today, if we did NOT invent smokeless.

black powder automatics are basically out of the question physics wise.

>>513031037
I'd be arrested for it been too green. WTF can't believe your allowed those.

>>513030984
Check this out Hans
https://youtu.be/4RyKT5o3_wM?si=ebF5kkfkfI8C6kzX

>>513015197
lol no

>>513031140
This is the police version. Civilians have to put a red cap on it so its visible.

>>513030937
>Nobody would sell a demilitarized gun to an Arab or a junkie, the control is very serious.
The last I checked in the UK and Ireland it's estimated half the illegal firearms are illegally reactivated, the rest come from the Balkens (lot a Russian guns and ammo).
> Come to think of it, I bet I could make a Sten within a week.
What's the way to go, none of the fancy stuff and just functional. Early to mid 20th century should be a piece of piss for someone with your skills and access to equipment.

>>513031217
I mean of course you can get like ~10-ish rounds out of a automatic firearm with black powder (if you are lucky) but I doubt any military would hae adopted such a firearm.
and even then rifeling would have been a massive issue. maybe smoothbore automatics would have been the standard?

>>513031284
Kek

Assault rifles, sniper rifles and pistols.

>>513024031
Have you practiced with it? Get a few pork cuts and ribs. Practice stabbing meat.

>>513031411
Quality BP isn't nearly as filthy as modern shit like goex. It did, and still would work.

https://www.forgottenweapons.com/the-first-maxim-machine-gun/

>>513016835
What sort of loicensing does this require?

>>513021707
Nah, 40mm doesn't even arm until it's like 14 meters downrange. You'd have to run to the back of your house to assault your front door properly.

>>513031783
I think you just have to show your ID, passport, blood sample and anal scann.

>>513031783
prolly easier to get a banking loicense than one to wield that beast

>>513031780
>Quality BP isn't nearly as filthy as modern shit like goex. It did, and still would work.
I can confirm this somewhat, since my matchstick powder shoots WAY cleaner than any black powder on the market.

>>513032048
You have to tuch some wall someplace befor you qualify to get a banking loicense

>>513015197
>>513030973
Literally the only restriction we have on knives in my state is that we can’t have ballistic knives.
Stuff like size, concealment, etc doesn’t matter

>>513012982 (OP)
I got two of these tactical assault tires on my bicycle and I carry a plastic spork as backup.

>>513032169
That's basically flash powder though, you start loading for effect you're going to spread about a barrel's worth of "dirt" all over the place.

>>513032430
I would be very surprised if there isn't a law on the books about concealed daggers.

>>513013643
why dont you just go fuck yourself, you nigger

Another possibility for no modern gun faggot countries, a Gras rifle and a chamber adapter for .410 slugs.

>>513012982 (OP)
For projectiles, without registering: nothing, even compressed air carbines need to be locally registered. Antiques like pic or before 1890 have to be registered.
I would get if it was for sale the six needler of the slingshot guy. But it doesn't look like it's going to be possible.

>>513032683
Nope
Indiana got rid of most of the knife laws back in 2013.
After that it was just ban on Ballistic knives and Chinese throwing stars, but the throwing star one was overturned recently.
There’s no laws pertaining to how knives are carried besides some shit about bringing them into schools

>>513033216
Let me guess, lots of spics started showing up around 2010?

>>513033476
I don’t want to talk about it

>>513032555
>That's basically flash powder though,
but surprisingly it performs better than black powder in black powder weapons.

I managed to get better penetration power out of matchstick pownder.

>>513033013
May as well get a couple of sets of pub darts for all the good that'd do.

>>513033542
lmao spics do love their knives. lol