Thread 513013182

You do have a family, right?

>>513013182 (OP)
Pretty sure I'll die alone.

Unfortunatly already sold them into slavery

>>513013182 (OP)
I guess not.

>>513013182 (OP)
If you are rich, you can provide for your family better

>>513013182 (OP)
I do, I love my family.

>>513013182 (OP)
men like me die alone

Yup. Wife. 2 kids. No debt. Paid off house.

Unvaxxed
Uncut
Untested
Unemployed

Wife is super thrifty and prefers me home. So I take a year off every few.

>>513013182 (OP)
one of my biggest regrets was allowing my first ex to get an abortion
she ended up intentionally overdosing on heroin a few weeks after we broke up. the girl i dated after her rightfully accused me of rape and i had to do 8 and a half years in prison and when i got out the only girl ehod talk to me was one eho had a crush on me in highschool
now we have two kids and are divorced, she tried killing herself and failed with sleeping pills and is now basically even more retarded than a normal woman
my kids came out alright so far though

>>513013182 (OP)
no
>t. 33 yo

>>513013433

LMAO did they have DNA? Talk to cops?

>>513013182 (OP)
unfortunately i have standards for women so i'll never breed

>>513013497
yea dna
i didnt talk to the police at all
they wanted me for 15 with life supervision i ended up with 10 and no parole and got out a bit early
my lawyer said i could "swing for the fences at trial but if you lose youre going away forever"

>>513013182 (OP)
I had a family. My wife divorced me and told my family that I abused her and our two kids. Because I shouted at her once during a family event, that was enough for them to side with her. She also gave bruises to my 5yo daughter by grabbing her arm and then said I did it, and it actually worked in court. I spent a lot on my lawyer but not enough apparently.

Currently avoiding paying child support by living in another country with a passport and identity that isn't mine. I'm sure there will be consequences someday but I'll be dammed before I get financially raped by a woman who lied. I didn't even have visitation rights.

>>513013182 (OP)
Now they've taken money away and the means to start a healthy family away from the average person. In the end you have nothing.

>>513013779
Lol.
Deadbeat father feeling wronged.
You abandoned your child when things got hard.
You're not the righteous man you believe you are, and you're probably lying about the domestic violence too.

>>513013779
brutal
there was an understanding beween my ex wife and i that wed never do child support or custody nonsense because
of what would happen to her and after her suicide attempt it became painfully obvious to her she was better off just pretending i didnt exist, for the sake of our children still having a mother in their lives

>>513013641

Ouch. Well. I did a lot of time too. Talk about being bored.

Dungeons and dragons.saved my ass several times.

>dont fuck with him he's the DM

Take it easy

>>513013216
you and me to bro,
in fact millions will

>>513013182 (OP)
No-one married has a family, they only have indentured slavery for men.

Women blow each other up into wanting marriage, then they blow each other up into wanting divorce, AND THAT IS HOW IT HAPPENS. Marriage is NEVER about the man and the woman. That's why the Government is there. The GOVERNMENT pays women to get divorced. Government streamlined the system to insure MEN pay the judges, lawyers, costs, EVERYTHING. Your wife can still put you in jail whenever other women tell her to. Women have no concept of "valuing men as people." "Men are disposable." they say. MARRIAGE DOES NOT EXIST. DO NOT GET MARRIED.
There is a BIG push on social media to say false SA claims do not hurt men. Things are getting MORE dangerous, the government will be used to punish ALL men more and more as time goes on.

>>513013182 (OP)
No, I don't want a woman to marry the government so they can both fuck me.

>>513013991
>Deadbeat father feeling wronged.
Shut the fuck up you nigger.

Bunch of low effort clowns itt. Family is THE most important thing you can get in your lifespan. With rare exceptions.

ive been thinking i wont go to my dads funeral. i just dont feel that close to him. id feel more uncomfortable with the pressure of pretending we were close than with the hate i would get from his side of the family if i didnt show up

>>513013991
This.
>>513015029
Shut cho godamn mouth, bitch.

>>513015029
Deadbeat father, or did simps like you go "tuch muh PP"-crazy? YOU faggots are why women are allowed to avoid being an adult.

YOU FECKLESS COWARDS ARE WHY WOMEN HATE YOU.

>>513013182 (OP)
In 2025 America, no one has a family.

Low effort bait.

>>513013545
iktfb

>>513013182 (OP)
My wife just sent me a giant wall of text telling me she doesn’t want to have kids. Been together for 8 years, married since June. Been hinting at wanting to start a family and all, she just told me she doesn’t, at all. Fucking hurts man, she’s perfect in every way as well and would make an amazing mom. Not gonna lie,’it fucks with me mentally. It makes me feel like it’s me who’s the problem. I work hard, I provide for her, we’re a little broke right now but who isn’t? I have a feeling that if I was someone else she would’ve jumped on it already but who knows. At this point, I’m torturing myself with it. She’s perfect in every way asides from that and I guess it did fuck her up because she thinks I think less of her as a woman. Quite the contrary, I want to have a family with her. It just breaks my heart that she doesn’t. What should I do? Ride it out or just get a divorce amicably.

>>513015460
You're gay. Man up and pay more of her bills.

PAY THE BILLS, YOU LAZY NIGGER! GET ANOTHER JOB AND BUY HER STUFF RIGHT FUCKING NOW! SPEND! SPEND!

>>513013182 (OP)
I live with my parents as a grown man, does that count?

>>513013182 (OP)
dumb cartoon - women want nothing to do with poor men

>>513013182 (OP)
I dont have a family. I am completely alone

>>513015675
Shit-brain cultural propaganda programming says you should feel bad.

It is 3 decades out of date.

>>513015460
just do what i did
track her period and "accodently" nut in her 10 days after she stops bleeding when she is ovulating
im 2 for 2, both my kids were planned;by me
once shes pregnant the hormones will change her mind

>>513013182 (OP)
nop, im actually legally orphan since I became 19

>>513015826
Just a warning, being around children ACTUALLY FORCES your body to feminize at the hormonal-level.

>>513015675
I noticed how the world treated men, and I quit. I don't care about this crap system, I WILL NOT support it in any way. This is for all men, it is an idea you need to grasp. "Good and evil" are for 5 year old discussions about heroes. Women can only fight childishly.

1 Radical self honesty. Bad habit: "You protect yourself from yourself."
You call out your own bullshit, which trains you to start seeing lies other people engage in. Here you have to learn to accept your own darkness(addiction, excuses, fear, gooning/simping, etc...).
Masculine benefit: "Willpower IS masculine power."

2 Value independence. Bad Habit: "Your values are based on delusional average people."
A man's moral code has to be based on reason and expierience. Traditions/culture is dead due to feminism, most large families have been broken. Society is observably insane and dangerously delusional. Society treats Men as disposable. Society shouldn't treat ANYONE as disposable.
Masculine benefit: "Guilt stops working on you."

>>513015999
3 Emotional self-sufficiency. Bad Habit: "You go to people for validation. This includes other men."
This is more of a "you can't depend on anyone" than a "you don't depend on anyone" these days. Men live in hell.
A torrid example: the idea is that if you voluntarily avoid going to people for head pats, hugs and "you're a good boy", you learn you can be on your own. You get validation problems from "you can't depend on anyone" PTSD abandonment mommy issues that make you eat pussy. You eat pussy because you want an "imaginary angel mommy" to tell you that you're a good boy. 1 in 3 women has an ACTIVE STD. That validation problem will kill you. Fix it.
Masculine benefit: "You can't be manipulated."

4 Intellectual courage. Bad Habit: "You trust people who want slaves(church, government, etc...)."
You are able to question beliefs others take for granted(marriage, justice, fairness, etc...) and follow the evidence instead, even when it goes to dark places.
Masculine benefit: "You can escape slavery."

Your ability to support and protect yourself is your first and most-important priority. If you hate yourself for being alone, you are running on cultural propaganda data. Attain intellectual courage. I wish there was a better way to protect yourself. Never stop repeating these steps. You will ALWAYS be attacked for protecting yourself. Everyone tells you how to train your body, this is how you train your mind.

>>513013182 (OP)
If this was an anime world, i would have loving wife and children years ago.

But we live in flawed real world where women demand unrealistic shit.

>>513015826
Oh dude I tried. She tracks that shit like a maniac. Hence why I’m wondering if she is biologically attracted to me at all in the long run. I’ve tried doing it and she automatically notices and pushes the fuck out of me when I’m about too.

>>513016032
NEVER LEAVE YOUR PLACE WITHOUT A CAMERA/SMARTPHONE RECORDING EVERYTHING! UGLY OLD ANGRY WHITE WOMEN ARE TAKING CRAZY TO THE NEXT LEVEL. MEN ARE NEVER TRUSTED OR BELIEVED. RECORD EVERYTHING OR GO TO JAIL.

I have several families. Only two relatives are in touch with me though & non of my kids will talk to me although i have some step children who i just lost contact with after they grew up and we all moved who don’t hate me.
>>513013260
It helps with everything. Unfortunately money was not easy to come by when i was a yoot and my gf’s were all 10/10 front cover glamour model tier so i needed to get money - this is where things get dark.
I got it in the end i’m cozy now but not many people i knew made it.
& i’m cursed.
>>513013433
Yeah you shouldn’t have put up with that and put any talk of killing babies down the nanosecond it started even if it meant beating sense into her. And into the people suggesting it to her.
8.5 is a long sit down to serve. Especially in the company you had, fucking weirds and baby fuckers - like the people who OP all day on here. You might as well have stuffed the barrel of a gun up a very long nose and left with a strongbox for that.
THE OP IS DATA MINING
make stuff up as appropriate.

>>513015036
>being rich means being old and having an Asian wife

>>513014945
100% fact

>>513015460
how could you not have discussed something as important as this before starting a relationship?

>>513013182 (OP)
not having money sucks

>>513016223
Youre her meal ticket, she doesnt give a fuck about you and you know it. Shatter her emotionally if youre even capable of that and then drop her ass

>>513013260

This is correct. Also...

"Family is a gift from God" -Hindi saying.

>>513013182 (OP)
Your family will despise you if you can't provide.

>>513016261
i was 16 and she was 13 about to be 14 we didnt really have a choice her dad would have killed me

>>513015460
Wait... your wife just had this discussion with you over text message? Lmao, what the fuck is wrong with you? The fact that she would text this to you (as opposed to telling you in person) after an 8 year relationship just hints at how utterly clownish and fucked up your relationship must be... and how unseriously she takes you.

>>513016451
We did, she didn’t want any from the start but she was also 19 when we met and I was in my late 20s and unstable. Now that she is older and we’re married with a home I thought things would be different. I guess this is my fault to some extent but hey, women are insane and she was also on the pill when we met so I figured fuck it. It is what it is, she’ll change her mind later on. For further context she hasn’t been on it now for a few years so it’s not like her hormones are fucked now. Perhaps she is just not biologically attracted to me.

>>513016560
its fucked these days
my wife divorced me over text
callous bitch

>Namefags
>Simps
>Literal spics and niggers
Where did this thread come from.

>>513016514
Yeah maybe you’re right. I come from a much better grounding family than hers, I’m an east coast Germanic catholic man with a good family, she’s from the Midwest trailer park so maybe you’re right.

>>513016560
We talked about it earlier in the day but didn’t come much from it. She did it over text because she’s a zoomette and at the end of the day, zoomers can’t actually do face to face interactions. I don’t read too much into the fact that it was text. Had it been in person or not the outcome would’ve been the same. Fucked up thing is, she just changed her last name a few days ago and was excited over it

There are apparently no men in this thread, at all. You're all just a bunch of whiny women. The saying goes KYS, but that's not sufficient for you sorry excuses. You should actually go out and drink moose piss that you collect yourself. Figure out how. Then drink the whole thing.

I have nothing in this hallow world but fleeting moments like sands on the beach waves crashing in ripping them away from me. I have no one as a sore through the darkness of space spinning and drifting alone.

>>513016671
What reasons did she provide for not wanting kids? Your suspicion that she may not be attracted to you seems like a real possibility. Nobody could possibly know the situation better than you. And this is already what what your gut is telling you (based on your previous posts).

So what reasons did she give for not wanting kids? And what other reasons do you have for suspecting shes not attracted to you?

>>513013182 (OP)
This is cope.

>>513016641
Women don't like stereotypes because they are the source of most of them.

>>513016891
For Republicans, oddly enough.

It is very unrealistic for a man to live with a woman.

>>513013182 (OP)
Financial problems are the number one reason for divorce. This OP image is part of a broader gayass trend to create fan-fiction about marriage and family. 90% of the married men i know, hate their wives, hate their lives, are totally henpecked and dominated and receive zero sympathy or understanding for any of their struggles. I'm completely certain an unmarried man drew tat cringe picture.

>>513013256
So glad i never watched this edgy trite

>>513015460
Bro if she's thinking about leaving leave, it will be the clouds before the storm. She will cheat on you humiliate you if she hasn't already. It will be bad. You are enduring each other at some point. Try to amibcaly split if she's so perfect hopefully you can walk with your loses and just be friends.

>>513017059
>zero sympathy or understanding for any of their struggles.
They got married. THEY GET WHAT THEY FUCKING DESERVE!

>>513016861
Simply that it’s not her. It doesn’t feel like her. She said it’s never felt right for her at a. That’s it, she’s not career minded, a feminist, or an antinatalist. Quite the contrary, she’s super red pilled, even more than myself or this board combined in a sense. So it’s not that she’s getting brainwashed, she’s just said that motherhood has never felt right for her at all. She also mentioned that me talking about it makes her feel less of a woman, not in an accusatory way but rather it fucks with her too. In her defense she’s said she much rather use that energy to take care of me and our home but it’s like, bitch I just want to have babies with you, save the white race and just push you to evolve into the best version of you that you can be.

>>513017076
She’s not thinking about leaving specifically but rather we should end things if we can compromise with this which I agree. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve talked about that first overall.

>>513017161
She's in control, or you are? If she is not on board with your intent, leave. No harm, too bad.

>>513017161
She might instinctively feel that the environment is not suitable or not safe for producing children.

>>513013182 (OP)
Be poor alone, nigger! Don't drag a woman and kids into your fucked-up life!

>>513017429
He's taking care of everything.

Bonus: his daughters are not genetically related to him! Lucky!

>>513015460
Red flag. Gtfo of there. Lucky for you your balls work till your 70 in good health. Don't let a single biocunt end your bloodline.

>>513017405
This is a good point thank you

>>513017534
You rigjt. I’m gonna ride out this month since we have two weddings to attend too and bounce

>>513017616
I mean try a bit to see if she's willing man but its a red flag because women's hormones make them baby crazy as fuck, and if she's brute force suppressing the idea then who the fuck knows what's going on there. She could have intense childhood trauma, or potentially more insidiously she doesnt want YOU to have kids. Hope the best for you man.

>>513017792
She doesn’t have any trauma. I am genuinely thinking it’s me the one she doesn’t want. Which is fine, I’ve settled that I’m gonna ride out this month maybe even wait a year of marriage and then call it quits. I already started packing and making my own food. Not because she doesn’t want too, quite the contrary. I am doing it so I’m used to doing shit myself

I'm gay, I can't have sex with women. And I don't want to take care of other people's kids. And I'm closeted. I'll probably die alone.

>>513013216
>>513013257
>>513013377
Stop feeling sorry for yourselves. You probably made a conscious choice to invest your time and energy into Funko Pops or anime instead of risking rejection with a woman at multiple stages throughout your life. Your excuses blaming external circumstances are nothing but lies.

>>513013182 (OP)
For $80K you can sort-of own a complete poor family. I mean, buy their debt, help them with stuff... invite yourself to family dinners.

>>513018331
My salary can't even pay rent + food where I live. I am forced to live with my parents and forced into arrested developement. All I have going for me is good health and savings.

>>513013182 (OP)
>Oy vey goy be poor so I can own you
>Kikes proceed to kill you and rape your children

This is why you kill kikes and sell their children to pajeets in India

>>513013182 (OP)
I'm not sure if I want a family or not, seems like a lot of responsibility
But I also don't want to be alone for the rest of my life
Once my parents die, then it's gonna really suck being alone, so I'm a little worried about that

>>513013182 (OP)
That's why the first virtue kikes ruined on whites is the family value. It's ironic when kikes value familial ties a lot but made the education system for westerners to water down families as temporary connections.

>>513018331
>You probably made a conscious choice to invest your time and energy into Funko Pops or anime
You are god damn right

>>513013182 (OP)
No, I'm not part of the NPC cattle.

>>513018803
Stuck alone sort of. you younglings should definitely prioritize a good paying wage somewhere(And definitely having a trade as a back up) to prepare to avoid high playing fields where you kill kikes and free masons as your main profession sometimes even for free. when you can just spread anti Israel anti juice propaganda online from a proxy account with a vpn. Eventually you’ll mature over time.

>>513013182 (OP)
>Be poor
>Can't feed family so they die or leave you anyway

>>513018420
None of that matters if you find the humility and maturity to date a girl you are looks matched with. Money isn’t real and the female brain hasn’t evolved to factor in bank balances other than as an abstract measurement of your worth, nothing to do with raw visceral sexual attraction

>>513018890
So stop making these boohoo crybaby doomer posts feeling sorry for yourself and whining. You made your choice, now live with it. If cartoons are so great like you say and you aren’t faking this smugness as a cope then you should be happy.

>>513019009
>successfully reproducing as an organism is “NPC”
The coping of incels is utterly pathetic and beneath human dignity. It should be legal to use their mouths as public urinals whenever they try to speak.

>>513019209
I am not the OP retard. I am just calling you out. Picking anime over the modern woman is not a bad thing. You may continue seething now.

>>513013182 (OP)
Yes

>>513019291
>Acting on your base animalistic instincts like a single celled vermin makes you an NPC
Correct, now you're getting it
>>513019351
Based

>>513016585
>she was also 19 when we met and I was in my late 20s and unstable.

Women are ETERNALLY attracted to the same type of assholes. It's unreal.

>>513017063
no you're not

>>513013260
rich people spend all their time making money, family to them is just another possession/trophy. i've worked for a lot of successful companies that are still small enough where you have regular daily interaction with c-level who are considered wealthy and in 30 years i've met one who actually values their family. larger celebrity status companies, those people go months without even speaking to their immediate family.

>>513013182 (OP)
I do, and as a bonus we are all aryan. Now please tell me how to cautiosly redpill my wife, as we married when I was a leftist NPC.

>>513013260
this is only true conceptually, but in practice it's never the case.
how many rich parents do you know actively raise their children? i've seen it first hand how the wealthier the individual, the more they rely on childcare/private school/tudoring/etc, basically anything and everything to pass on the responsibility of parenting to someone else or an institution.
sending your kids to school is not parenting btw. i've heard this cope first hand from my own money hungry uncles
>i-i worked hard and sent you to a private school, why the fuck aren't you like i want you to be?!?!

>>513019394
Wanting to transcend your animal instincts is also just motivated in turn by your animal instincts of ego and will to power. You can’t escape it. The fact that you needed this fallacy explained to you shows that you’re in the 100-105 IQ range, absolute max.

>>513013216
Thank the society that spent the last 30-40 years calling men "trash" and calling woman empowered simply for sucking air.

>>513018331
KYS kike.

>>513013182 (OP)
I'm so glad I don't have a family. It looks terrible and I don't see any positives.

>>513013182 (OP)
No one has a family when there are legal divorces and family courts: it's just temporal bondings, like that of chimpanzees or those prehistoric matriarchal tribes. Some just last long enough for the woman to hit the wall so she cannot leave anymore, but most don't.

>>513020095
I reproduced. I’ve created and seen another human with my face. When you die there will never be another person who looks like you. You unique chain, your irreplaceable ancestral bloodline, will be permanently servered and destroyed. All so you could jerk off to anime with the curtains drawn, safe from the risk of rejection by a female. Sickeningly pathetic.

>>513013385
>Wife is super thrifty
This. I am quite rich now. My wife hates spending money, so it just accumulates.

>>513013433
>rightfully accused me of rape
>got 8 1/2 years
you sound like trash and that only drug whores want to be near you just confirms it more.

>>513020134
>having a family looks terrible
>in other words “my own personal family life was terrible growing up and my parents considered me a burden. my trauma from this emotional neglect causes me to try to destroy the hope of family for others now that I’m an adult. I do this as a type of sick, misdirected attempt at revenge on my own family”
You’re welcome for the free therapy faggot

>>513020370
Based, thanks for the analysis. I have lost the count on how often people told me unprompted how ‘glad they are they dont have children, so they can consooooom/travel/work for shekelstein’. I think of them as sad and loveless, come home and enjoy the love and pride I feel whenever I see my offspring.

>>513020370
There might be some truth in this which is why I avoided having kids. However it was a blessing in disguise. The risk of having a wife go nuts, terrible kids, getting divorced raped etc is too high. I've never seen a guy with a family that I'm jealous of and often there lives look like total torture.

>>513013284
I mean she is not cheating on you lol

>>513013182 (OP)
Nope. No parents or relatives. No family to call my own. Everyone in this world is vile and nasty and I'm staying alone.

>>513020682
I'm happy for you but for me coming home to my own house where I can completely relax alone is pure happiness

gyat

>>513013182 (OP)
No and I dont want one. I prefer my quiet peace and solitude thank you very much.

>>513013182 (OP)
I'm ugly I'll never have a family. I will spend my life dedicated to revealing the jews behind the curtain instead

>>513020687
>and often [their] lives look like total torture.

Not wrong boyo, not wrong at all.

>>513013182 (OP)
Okay!
Now imagine that guy has nothing, and he never will.
Why the fuck should he get a job at McDonalds, again?

>>513020856
I hope you will stay happy living this way and never feel loneliness or similar. It's a good thing you feel content being with yourself and not dependent on somebody elses affirmation. If you happen to fall in love eventually, you wouldnt be someone who felt tormented by your lover and children.

>>513013216
This

>>513014945
>There is a BIG push on social media to say false SA claims do not hurt men.
lol they moved on from "no, of course women never lie" to "eh ok they do, but that's not a big deal"

>>513015460
>having that conversation 8 years after marrying

>>513020233
>When you die there will never be another person who looks like you. You unique chain, your irreplaceable ancestral bloodline, will be permanently servered and destroyed.
This isn't true at all. You share your genes with your siblings. If they reproduce, you pass on your genes indirectly.

>>513013182 (OP)
wife hates you and told your kids you are a loser and that she will divorce you. that pic is propaganda.

>>513022393
Du bist ein Itzig

>>513013182 (OP)
not featured: wife cucking you, the kids not being yours, her planning to divorce rape you.

>>513013182 (OP)
>You have signed for divorce rape, right?
Nope

>>513014945
>the government will be used to punish ALL men more and more as time goes on.

There's a reason a deadly virus can't spread and it's that it kills the host too fast. It's difficult for a virus to be potent but also be asymptomatic during incubation. The result is a deadly virus can't last long.

That's the reason there isn't a successful matriarchal society in history. Kills the host too fast. Women value redistribution over production; they are too welcoming of strangers, too eager to submit to invaders.

Expect current hyper-matriarchal system to become devoured by most likely an Islamic regime.

>>513020682
When people are truly happy they don’t need to insist to you how happy they are, totally unprompted. If you search r/childfree there are plenty of posts by these people pretending to be happy and smug about their lonely, miserable lives

>>513013182 (OP)
All I see in that picture are three people I would have to be responsible for, with two of them being extremely vulnerable to pretty much anything. Littering the world with children you cannot take care of properly due to financial or mental issues is white trash behavior

>>513020856
No it’s not, it’s pure loneliness. It’s literally an EMPTY house. It’s a lack of something.

best case i ll pump out a few maylis as a sexpat in SEA before i bite the bullet

someone has to uplift the savages

>>513022334
No, and this is a classic anti-natalist cope. Your siblings children will be categorically genetically distinct from you. Completely different to reproducing your own offspring with your own partner. They would be drawn as a different branch on your family tree, because they are, genetically speaking.

>>513013182 (OP)
Im 27 and have a one year old daughter whom I haven't seen since November. I pay child support, eat, and sleep like an animal. I know my little one will hate me, but the only reason I haven't kys yet is because of her. Every day I feel further from God.

I have my soul and that is enough. No need to create more suffering in this world, I hope this is my last reincarnation to this shithole jewish clown world. I was meant for greater things.

>>513013182 (OP)
Im a family. Reeetard.
"Fem-mily" Jesus.

>>513013182 (OP)
Nope. Bastard child.

>>513020233
>I made another wageslave
congrats

>>513022813
What does taking care of even mean? As long no one is hungry and everyone has a roof over their heads, being a loving parent will be much more important than amassing riches. That said, boing responsible for your family will make you grow and try to improve your situation.
>>513022785
I just wonder how long that cope will last and if it's working all the time for them.

>>513022985
>Your siblings children will be categorically genetically distinct from you.
This is factually incorrect. Many animals reproduce indirectly (e.g. worker bees). And a mother often would rather save 3 or more of her sibling's children than just one of her own. Evolutionary it makes sense. But whatever, you don't seem like you have any critical thought in your braib. Believe whatever bullshit you want.

>>513017161
she's either not attracted to you or blew a fuse
blowing a fuse explains why she mirrors niche beliefs as an arbitrage game

>>513013182 (OP)
yeah. Two perfect kids (boy and girl), third on the way, two under two, we fucked up 3 under 4, unfortunatelly. When the third one is here, my life can finally start, i can't wait.

>>513023428
>>513022985
>braib
*brain
3 or more of your siblings children carry more of your genes than 1 of your own, that's what I was saying. Not that you'd even try to understand, you sound emotional and dogmatic.

>poor
>have children
NO you fucking cunt piece of shit. If you live like shit in the rural or slums you better cut off your balls you fucking cunt.
Why? I (so are most of people in my country) grew up like that and it was full fucking misery. Don't have kids if you live like a tapeworm covered in shit.

Tbh I wouldn’t mind having a family but I am in my 30s and only male 60k per year. I could realistically take care of a wife and kid on my salary, assuming she was the kind of woman who didn’t care about material things, vacations of constant date nights. However, I’m also sterile, so it’s physically impossible for me to procreate. For me, it never even began, and I have no strong desire for my own family but I’m not against it either. It is what it is and nature is cruel.

>>513023428
Bees reproduce completely different than mammals.
How many people do you know that are more similar to their cousins and uncles than their parents?

>>513023636
>I’m also sterile
how the fuck did that happen?

>>513013182 (OP)
A wife and 2 kids? How did you not sell your two testicles for the wife first?

Christcucks think they can afford kids and everyone else will pay for them.

>>513023693
Not a christcuck, but
Yes.

>>513018331
>more impotent finger wagging from a guy with no solutions and nothing to offer

>>513013216
same

>1pbid
>Boomer pic
>No link
>Bait post
KYS

>>513023674
>How many people do you know that are more similar to their cousins and uncles than their parents?
.....
Your sibling shares 50% of your genes. You pass on 50% of your genes. Meaning: your grandchildren are as related to you genetically as your sibling's children.
By having 3 or more nieces/nephews you pass on MORE of your genes than having a single child of your own.
How bees reproduce does not matter. What matters is that natural selection does not happen only on individual level. It happens in kins and groups just as well. A gay man will pass on his genes through his siblings. This is for example, why homosexuality even exists. And before you link a study you've never even read, yes it is 100% confirmed that homosexuality is partially genetic via twin studies.

>>513013182 (OP)
>You do have a family, right?
Nope.
First girlfriend cheated, and I ended it.
Second girlfriend became a doctor and moved to NC
Third girlfriend moved several hours away for university, and I didn't want to do long distance
Fourth girlfriend became a therapist and moved to Florida
Fifth girlfriend became a doctor and moved to DC
Every girlfriend I've had has moved away to pursue careers
Now, I'm old, and dating apps exist, so I'm practically a ghost

>>513023394
Only a very bored or unsatisfied with their life person would willingly take on the burden of other people's welfare and expectations. It is back-breaking work and that is even if everything else goes smoothly. She could cuck you, leave you, die on you etc. The kids could grow up to be retarded, crippled, addicted etc. (You) could fall ill or die, leaving them to fend for themselves while they curse your name

>>513013182 (OP)
yeah it makes all the difference. having more money often makes people love each other less

>>513013216
Same

>>513015460
I made this mistake too

I tried "convincing" a woman to do her natural instinctual duty

The mere act of "talking" and "convincing" someone to do something every normal human does is unironically the reason she ends up leaving, because you can agree with her on everything, but a woman who doesn't want kids does NOT want anyone to agree with her no matter how scared or poor she is

She wants you to be a man and put a baby in her, she doesn't want to talk about it

Heed my warning, I literally had a 4 year relationship with one, I tried convincing her and everything, and she had a baby with the next guy in less than a few months, they didn't even date that much, she just "got drunk and regretted it" but then she changed her mind once the baby was born and now they're inseparable

I was literally cucked out of a family by a total stranger and I don't want this to happen to anyone who thinks they have to "talk" and "reason" a woman into having a child

>>513013182 (OP)
nope, found out she was cheating with random clubgoers and on the pill the entire time we were trying for kids, also found tinder on the phone.
5 years down the drain. Never date BPD/NPD cunts ever.

>>513024220
>Your sibling shares 50% of your genes.
Blatantly false. 50% of your genes come from your mother and the other ones from your father, and as they are selected at random, you dont share an exact amount of them with your siblings.
The rest of your post is also a lie, homosexuals procreate by diddling.
>>513024391
>Only a very bored or unsatisfied with their life person would willingly take on the burden of other people's welfare and expectations
That must be the reason childless millenials become dog-moms at large.
To care for your family is extremely rewarding even in times of hardship, and only few parents in a stable relationship regret their children.
And I have never met a person cursing their deceased caretakers for dying, when their death wasn't suicide.

It never began. There were 0 opportunities. Zero. Nothing. None.

>>513017063
Same

>>513024689
>Never date BPD/NPD cunts ever.
Seriously. If you do you deserve what you get. It’s your choice. A vampire has to be invited in voluntarily. Have relationships with women who are still functional humans, not totally shattered walking undead victims of childhood trauma.

>>513024689
My sympathies about this by the way. To be sincerely trying to have children and have a demon bitch be lying to you like that is such a sickening betrayal and violation.

>>513025212
I didn't even know, she gaslit me every step of the way until I put the pieces together myself and noped the fuck out.
I still hurt but it is what it is. The woman I loved used me as a safety net while fucking others behind my back and lying to me, calling me crazy for noticing.
Just fuck my shit up dude.

>>513024936
>Blatantly false. 50% of your genes come from your mother and the other ones from your father, and as they are selected at random, you dont share an exact amount of them with your siblings.
https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212170668-Average-Percent-DNA-Shared-Between-Relatives
This is like, kindergarten tier knowledge anon.
>The rest of your post is also a lie, homosexuals procreate by diddling.
It is not a lie, it is the truth you are willingly rejecting because you don't have a single critical thought in your mind.

>>513018331
>Marcus Wasntrealius
No funky poops, but my work is all I know, and for me to change careers for a land job in my mid 30s, just to check a whore's box who will ignore me anyway, would mean burning half a lifetime. Yes, there are men who don't get to have families, because these stupid cunts' fathers failed to raise women who could homestead for four months at a time. Hell, three weeks alone and they fall apart. That was NOT true of pre-Great Depression women, because even clerical jobs required men to leave home for months, to live in a sweaty interior office room.

Family is a nightmare

Men WITH families have worse outcome in heart health compared to men with no kids. Tells you everything.

>>513013182 (OP)

No. Its over here for us.
Genuinely.

>>513013245
Our natives did the same thing.

>>513013284
There are much worse positions to be in
A faithful partner is worth A LOT
It cannot be understated

>>513025490
Have you even looked at the table on that kike companies website? Your post is missing the word ‘average’. The range specified is in accordance with my statement that there isn't an exact amount of shared genes.
>It is not a lie, it is the truth you are willingly rejecting because you don't have a single critical thought in your mind.
Ok, I was overstating, but are you seriously going to deny the fact homo-/bisexuals have on average more often a history of abuse than straights? Leaving that fact out conveniently makes you a liar nevertheless.

>>513015460
Women don't have opinions, she's just trying to test how you'll react. Just shrug your shoulders and nut inside her, she'll change her mind

I love my family, but to say you have everything is a bit bold

>>513025359
With BPDs it’s almost comforting to know it isn’t personal. Your abuse likely followed a script that many other men have experienced. If you read r/bpdlovedones you will see, they all say and do the exact same shit to their partners.

Just remember to believe in yourself that you can use this to rebuild yourself even stronger than you were before. Don’t believe that she “destroyed you permanently” even though it may feel that way

I just have my wife. No kids because I'm not a multimillionaire with infinite free time.

>>513027273
Your balls arent working you greasy kike pedophile rat

>513027454
>obsessed kike spouting nonsesne
Into the void you go.

>>513015460
Your wife only has the power you let her have. Tell her to shutup and raise your children for her, its her purpose in life and she will be replaced if she doesnt.
If you been together 8 years she should be fearful of the dating market anyways.
Never chase pussy, especially pussy not working for you. Its a fools errand, no matter how chad or chadlet you are

>>513013216
Same bro. Not that I really mind, I don't have the patience for femoids, and I despise normies. So that leaves me with no obligations towards anyone but myself, and I'll cruise by with the least effort possible. I wasn't given anything to upkeep, I have no reason to make unnecessary efforts.

>>513013216
Same boat. Just one of those things.

>>513015460
>married since June.
Why the fuck would you ever marry. You gain nothing from marriage, and you give the femoid all the reasons to divorce-rape you. Never marry unless you're a brownoid doing this in an extremely Islamic country.

>>513026364
>Your post is missing the word ‘average’.
The margin of error is 10%. And have you looked at grandchildren/parents too? Are you implying your grandchildren are not related to you?
Can you really think for a moment or do I need to spoonfeed you all the information?
>The range specified is in accordance with my statement
Fuck NO it isn't. Read again. Siblings almost always share 50% of genes, the margin of error exists but it raraly deviates.
>homo-/bisexuals have on average more often a history of abuse than straights?
The data shows us that homosexual boys and girls are more often abused (as in bullied, beaten) in their childhood, the reason for this is simple: homosexual boys are different from their very childhood, they have different interests, different personalities, more often feminine (95% exhibit feminine behavior), this makes them an easy target for bullying. I can confirm from experience that this indeed was the case. I was bullied into being less feminine, but I was always gay and I realized that when I turned 12 or 13. What the data does NOT show is that homosexual men are more likely to abuse anyone, there is not a single source or empirical evidence that could confirm this nonsense. But there is a study which show that homosexual women are more likely to be narcissistic and generally score higher on dark triad personality traits. Could be due to absue they, or simply genetics. Sexuality in women is 20% determiend by genetic, compared to 50-60% in men.

>>513013182 (OP)
I’ve got people I’m related to. No senpai tho.

>>513023756
Socialise with as many people as possible, even people who aren’t women, because you can meet women through themselves Do activities where you can meet a woman like martial arts classes or running clubs. Accept a looks matched woman >>513023943

I have a daughter that lives with her mom I don't get to see often, a girlfriend who's a very sweet girl I'm not really attracted to anymore, but I love her son so I'm definitely sticking around at least until he grows up. Call me a cuck if you want but I'm helping a White woman raise a White child and I get to show him some truths of this world. I'll take what I can get

>>513015826
or just bang her every day without any birth control

>>513013182 (OP)
>Money doesn't matter the way family does
Literally no woman thinks like this unfortunately

>>513028127
There is nothing wrong with that. A white child is genetically very close to you, by taking care of other white people you are also passing on your genes indirectly.

>>513013182 (OP)
I am white, european. My wife is white, European. I live in the US, but we aren't allowed to have children because we are here on visas. If we have kids, we will get deported back to shithole Czechia.

>>513013216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZNZO1mUAhc

>>513027913
>50% - 38% = 10%
Go tell me about kindergarten knowledge. I'm not disproven at all, too.
But to go on with these uncritical thoughts of my mind, taking the data from the table you linked, own children bear exactly 50/47.5% of your genes, while nieces or nephews at worst 17%. So in your highly hypothetical scenario of deciding whether your children or those of your sibling are to be rescued, to pass on the same amount of genes you need a factor bigger than two of siblings childs to break even.
We both know these numbers include sexual abuse by older people as well. If homosexuality was mainly a result of genetics, the overall number of homosexuals had to be the same over time (at least over the time without repercussions), which it isnt.
You werent bullied for being too feminine, you were bullied because you are a dumb liar.
That said, while there is worth in preserving your bloodline, I would consider not blood related people like foster childs family too, and instead of passing on your genes by caring for themyou are passing on your values and morals, which might be equally important, if not more.

Having a bunch of white children is based and redpilled, however hard it may be at times. It is worth it, do it now. You will never actually feel "ready" until the moment you willingly nut in that Waffle House waitress or Applebees hostess. I believe in you.

>>513028768
>>50% - 38% = 10%
Oh no, the 1 or 2%! Yes the margin of error is around 11-12%, I am sorry for making such a huge mistake. You forgot to add 11% to get the 61%.
> pass on the same amount of genes you need a factor bigger than two of siblings childs to break even.
You need around 3 or 4. 5 or 6 at worst. But this was just my way of explaining that natural selection happens on kin and group levels, not just individual level. This is a very common misconception here on /pol/, the famous pseudointellectual club.
>We both know these numbers include sexual abuse by older people as well.
There is no empirical evidence of such claim. You fell victim to a meme made up by Alex Jones tier /x/schizos.
>If homosexuality was mainly a result of genetics
It is the result of complex interaction between genetics (possibly including epigenetics) and the environment (prenatal hormone exposure, also epigenetics). Male homosexuality is mostly genetic as confirmed by twin studies, which you should read.
>the overall number of homosexuals had to be the same over time (at least over the time without repercussions), which it isnt.
This really isn't true. Genetic traits can change quickly throughout few generations, a classic example of this is the declining intelligence post industrial revolution, and less innovation per capita (less geniuses) in the population. The heritability of intelligence is also confirmed with twin studies by the way.
And also, homosexuality is not completely genetic, as I already mentioned. Various factors could influence it, including the mother's diet during her pregnancy, or the child's own diet.
The statistics can also change rapidly if being gay is no longer stigmatized around the world, more people will admit they are gay. This obviously does not mean more people "become gay".
>You werent bullied for being too feminine, you were bullied because you are a dumb liar.
Okay then, nice ad hom. I guess that wraps up our conversation.

>>513028516
You wont sire children because you wouldnt be able to leech of the american people anymore and had to go back to (and improve) a country with the best beer, a beautiful landscape, awesome tekno, abrasive grindcore, rich history, crazy language, good cars and other machinery, delicious cheese and (but you seem to at least appreciate that) attractive women? Is america really that good?

2 sisters and 2 brothers
5 sisters in law + 2 brothers in law
22 neices/nephews
14 aunts/uncles with their spouses
100s of cousins
extended family gatherings I forget names

don't be jealous, its fucking hell at times
t. deliberately spent last christmas on my own - total bliss

>>513015460
swap her pill out for aspirin (they make identical looking ones) or aspartame pills (same size). start nutting in her before her period
some women will change their minds when pregnant (its called getting clucky)
gl

>>513018331
>anime instead of risking rejection with a woman at multiple stages throughout your life.
Yes
Not putting excuses tho.

>having to work 80 hours a week to have all your money spent by a whore and your spoiled brat kids is le good for some reason
This tradcuck slavery martyrdom becoming fashionable is the worst thing 4chan has ever done. We should be the ones who speak up against it but there's nowhere a man can be free nowadays. I'm going to have to pretend to be gay just to get people off my fucking back. Fuck off simps, and your roastie slave masters.

>>513029623
>Oh no, the 1 or 2%! Yes the margin of error is around 11-12%, I am sorry for making such a huge mistake. You forgot to add 11% to get the 61%.
Both 11% and 12% would have been typed faster, choosing 10% was a deliberate move. 1% can make a huge difference, as with interest rates.
>But this was just my way of explaining that natural selection happens on kin and group levels, not just individual level.
I agree with that. That example still is very much costructed, and I highly doubt any mother will, by reason or instinct, do the math in such a situation. I guess, when we are talking about a 1:6 ratio, 6 not blood related children would be chosen nearly as often as blood related, but not direct children.
>You fell victim to a meme made up by Alex Jones tier /x/schizos.
This may very well be the case. I cant find neutral sources on that matter quickly, they seem either be from conversatives and fundamental christians or lgbt activists. But the meme lines up not that badly with my experience.
>which you should read.
Alright then, any authors I should search for?
>Genetic traits can change quickly throughout few generations
This sounds pretty Lamarckian. The industrial revolutions influence of the overall intelligence (without considering the /potential intelligence/ doesnt seem to be a good example for me, as it turned a large portion of peasants, who needed to be skilled in multiple fields to get an sustainable income to proletarians performing repetive tasks in mindnumbing surroundings, while at the same changing the conditions in a way that surviving was less dependent on individual intelligence and therefore allowing the reproduction of more less intelligent people.

>>513018331
>retarded tradcuck response
Can you faggots just advocate for better pay, deportations, and removing divorce?

>>513029623
>The statistics can also change rapidly if being gay is no longer stigmatized around the world, more people will admit they are gay
The stigma was gone in the west for decades. I seriously hope that I really fell for a meme like you said, as it would otherwise imply a much higher amount of children
>Okay then, nice ad hom.
I'm sorry. We both have been disingenous, and my argumentation bordered on being petty.

>>513013182 (OP)
wife + kids, will off myself soon anyway life is a fuck

>>513031912
>amount of children
being sexually abused

>>513028040
>Accept a looks matched woman
Who thinks she's better than you

>>513013182 (OP)
Hahahaha, the women in this country are deranged obese sluts, I'd rather die a virgin.

>>513013182 (OP)
yes
but kinda wish I had the same family I already have, plus a hundred other bastards I never met. The world would be a better place with more genetics like mine.

>>513013216
no matter how alone you think you are. if you still have a cock, you have everything.

>>513032261
>best male friend
>top of the podium
cringe

>>513032261
just put yourself out there and it'll work itself out

>>513013216
Well then you can relax as I have good news for you anon, you will probably die at the hands of some niggers or shitskins so technically you won't be alone. Also if you're really lucky you might even get some indians who rape you before they murder you so you won't even have to suffer the shame of dying a virgin. Anyway, I hope this brought you some comfort now you know you won't have to go it alone.

>>513028768
>instead of passing on your genes by caring for themyou are passing on your values and morals
holy fucking cope
> which might be equally important, if not more.
this is bait

>>513013182 (OP)
No, and I don't want one.

>>513032261
>No intact male dog
>no nogs
knocking off two points. 8/10

>>513032261
let 'em know you're interested

>>513013182 (OP)
Yes, I do

>>513013182 (OP)
I will have a family with a fox.

>>513031916
>>513032385
why are you so miserable? Caring for children will bring joy and fulfillment, even when they are not your own. Seeing that you left an impression even more.

>>513019351
>Picking anime over the modern woman is not a bad thing.
I cannot believe "people" like you exist, but I take comfort in knowing that you won't breed.

>>513028040
no

>>513013182 (OP)
1 post by this ID

I have 236 families.

>>513020233
>I made someone like me suffer on this jewish prison planet instead of having that soul be summoned somewhere else
OR
>I created a soulless automata, a skinwalker wearing a face that sort of looks like mine
Not sure which is more horrifying, but muh legacy fags get the fire.

>>513018420
Why didn't you strive for a better career path? What was more important to you?

>>513031682
>choosing 10% was a deliberate move
How would that even make the difference in this case. I said 10% because that figure does not show standard deviation. Vast majority of siblings (around 70%) share about 46-53% of genes. I'm sure you can somehow verify that yourself.
>I highly doubt any mother will, by reason or instinct, do the math in such a situation.
That example was not random. It is instinctual and the behavior has been observed in the nature.
>conversatives and fundamental christians or lgbt activists.
Two sides of the same coin. Both are irrational, dogmatic and close minded people. I'm glad someone is able to see that, most people can't, and fail to see the false dichotomy between hardcore LGBT supporter vs hyper conservative anti-gay types. So thank you.
>Alright then, any authors I should search for?
There are a few, just search homosexual twin studies. Here's one of them:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8494487/
tl;dr monozygotic twins have higher concordance rate of sexuality than dyzigotic, so genetic influence is definitely there. But even in monozygotic twins, there are exceptions, which hints at the enviornmental influences as well.
>while at the same changing the conditions in a way that surviving was less dependent on individual intelligence
Industrial revolution simply sped up the process and kickstarted the decline, it was always bound to decline. This is one of the main points that Edward Dutton argues. This decline has been observed in Ancient Romanians, Chinese, Arab civilizations. It's like a cycle that's bound to repeat over and over. Anyway that's besides the point. Genetic traits do change over short periods of time. You can find tons of examples, like: instects develop pesticide resistance, people have developed resistance to malaria.
>>513031912
>The stigma was gone in the west
It's not gone in many parts of the world. In the west, it has became more acceptable and that's partially what influenced statistics.

>>513013182 (OP)
Sounds gay.

>>513013182 (OP)
Dark hair is for losers.

>>513029652
I don't drink, I prefer beaches to mountains, tekno and grindcore are gay the best music is classic american rock, bohemian history is gay and cucked i prefer pan-slavic nazbol unity, our language is being cucked every day by english and german, our cars and industry are shit compared to Asia, I'll accept the cheese point but brie and camembert are better, and yes our women are beautiful but 90% are vapid superficial whores who want to marry Americans anyway. I am lucky and married my high school girlfriend who loved me before I balded.

America is amazing if you are white in a mostly white blue/Democrat state. I live in a gated white community with a pool with frequent beautiful white women, and it is like paradise. They are NICE here and have manners. Europeans have no manners. I make literally 6x more than the highest paid people in my SAME COMPANY that happen to work in the Czechia location.... how is that good? I don't want to be fucking poor and renting. I want to own a home and drive a spacious car and live the good life. I would not sacrifice my happiness to have kids who will just become a bunch of gay identitarians that support ZOG.

>>513028040
>Socialise
With what time? Most guy's time is occupied with working to live, weekends are spent on home maintenance that was too time consuming to complete through the work week. Most guys are limited to socializing within the footprint of their workplace, if they aren't cold approaching randoms while getting groceries. The problem with trying to force socializing is you usually have to neglect another aspect of your life, the only people with time for clubs or hobbies are those having no obligations or very little of them to begin with.

>>513013182 (OP)
This is what my boss says every year during my review.

>>513013216
Same
It's nice getting your dick wet but I'm not willing to take that risk by marrying a woman
I'll probably adopt someone

>>513015092
A philanthropist can do better than your typical breeder, so fuck yourself.

>>513013182 (OP)
crab bucket mentality

>>513013182 (OP)
A normal person's focus changes many times over their life.
Children are self-centered.
Young adults focus on themselves and their peer group.
Adults focus on their spouse.
Then they focus on the kids.
Then they focus on the lineage.

This is the normal progression. Unless you stay focused on yourself.

Everything about you changes once you have children. And it's great.

>>513013182 (OP)
I push away women habitually, I was harrassed and stalked my entire childhood, even before puberty and going even past college. I grew defensive and uncertain with all the attention and hidden motives.
Things only got worse in my 20s, I was a college dropout wagie trying to crawl my way out of a pit without any help. The combined pressure meant that until my late 20s, I could not even get turned on by a woman showing affection towards me.
Even though I've had a tough time, I was fortunate enough to succeed in the moments I needed to, avoiding big mistakes and keeping relatively healthy throughout.
I'm coming back down to earth in many ways, now that the fight for survival is over. The past 12 months have been insane, getting my masters while being a technical lead for a medium sized team, buying my first house, traveling, projects, etc.
But within the past couple of weeks I've completed all those efforts and I finally don't have anything major pending. So maybe I'll get out there a little more, make friends in this new city with my projects, meet a nice lady maybe. I dunno.

>>513034995
>I'm sure you can somehow verify that yourself
Bro I'm a machinist, the only clue I have is seeing how similar siblings are or not – I'll give you they are pretty similar more often than not. Heredity is a an exponential process, so the amount being 10% vs 11% will make a huge difference after a few generations.
>monozygotic twins have higher concordance rate of sexuality than dyzigotic, so genetic influence is definitely there. But even in monozygotic twins, there are exceptions, which hints at the enviornmental influences as well
Thanks. I cant see whether these twins lived in different families/environments, which would clarify the matter much more, but the difference to dizygotics is already telling much.
Repetition compulsion being an explanation for the reproduction through molestation meme made a lot of sense to me, though.
>instects develop pesticide resistance, people have developed resistance to malaria.
These example also are some kind of selection, as the non-resistant individuals will be removed from the gene pool. Ultimately, virtually every mutation will have an influence on the evolutionary advatages, so I'm not really sure where this discussion is heading. But homosexuality being mainly hereditary would require having an advantage for the siblings children to not being bred out by the much stronger genetic influence of parents to their direct children, especially in times of less stigma and therefore no need to have an alibi wife and children.

>>513013182 (OP)
Women won't settle for broke men only for broke niggers

>>513013182 (OP)
Demiurgic Propaganda. Why would I want to bring more people into this flawed world?

>>513023693
I mean niggers and muslims doing that shit and they are doing fine so?

>>513020038
>>513019291
Kek
You're making fun on incels just so you can feel good about yourself
The only right way to terrorize incels is to remind them that if they go outside they'll encounter ugly ass niggers with cute local girls
Nothing crushes their soul more than knowing that niggers with no qualities whatsoever are fucking white women while they rot in their basements

>>513035262
>first paragraph
fair enough, despite you obviously dont know which music slaps
>second
we are to different for me to understand you. I cant see why I even would want to own a house if not for my children, and when its not in my homeland

>>513037847
Why the fuck you didn't escaped yet faggot? Where is your conviction?

>>513020233
You have to be the most self righteous, condescending, piece of shit on 4 chan.

God I hate you fucking Aussie shits.

>>513018331
meh, average bait

>>513013216
>convince yourself to hate everyone and to protect your ego
>be cool with people who would assist or be complicit with women having less rights
I'm not sure how else this was supposed to end. Move to an Islamic country?

>>513038241
You're just upset because he speaks the truth.
It's okay Anon, you can choose not to reproduce, but your line ends with you: a dead end.

>>513013182 (OP)
Nope. 43 years old, everything is own is paid for (home, car, hobby shit, etc...), and could give a fuck less about women. My first relationship at 19 fucked me up so bad that I trust exactly no one.

>>513015092
Can confirm. 30 years of marriage, 2 kids. God and family are all that matters

>>513037996
Because I have a good life and I have goals. Which include making sure that this place ends and we create a better place.

>>513038241
Don't hate him. Leave his gift of hate to himself. And his self-righteousness, coupled with the false teaching and unconscious ego-fear of abandonment will be his undoing.

>>513038967
Tell me about your genesis. How did you meet the only woman in your life? How was the relationship? What to watch out for? I hope I'll one day embark on the same journey. For 15 years i've sadly had no one catch my interest, nor did I catch anyone's.

>>513038386
>be cool with people who would assist or be complicit with women having less
i literally don't want that only incels take such extreme positions
I enjoy ths shitshow i enjoy women simping for foreigners women marching for dead niggers women raising niglet mutts by themselves
Let women have fun lad

>>513013182 (OP)
A big family. There are 23 of us since this june, and 2 more on the way.
It's nice to have land and a solid religious foundation to raise a family on. A big house. Plenty of supplies. I love my family and they love me, and they treat me like a king of kings.
Life is good.

>It doesn't matter how your kids feel about their poorfag lives, just have children so you'll feel better about your personal situation.

I fucking hate this mentality.
You should absolutely avoid being poor and having kids, because their lives are going to be shit by simply having to exist around the dysfunctional dredges of society.

>>513038967
>God
I too believe Pissrael should be our priority

>>513013182 (OP)
ok well i live in my obese, hoarder, schizoid mother's house that's crumbling apart because she thought it would be smart to leave my dad 20 years ago and he gave up on trying to see me 15 years ago and I have no siblings and the only other family we have is her equally psychotic twin sister that threw piss at her husband and has a teenage daughter she sneaks to planned parenthood for recurring vaginal infections from riding high school cock carousel. And I make $55k yearly and my oneitis is on blues. So what the fuck do i get??

>>513038727
when you die it is going to take weeks to discover your corpse
>i don't care-
you will.

>>513039504
Better than your fefail abandoning you at the first sign of weakness, then that happens anyway.

>>513039504
Bro, there are people dying in trenches.
The world is fucked from a fundamental premise.

The noble paths are to not propagate this, and to find a way to actually end it. Whether that is through Trans-Humanism or Spiritual Apocalypse of the world.

I don't want bring another player (life) to play this kusoge (life)

>>513037639
>so the amount being 10% vs 11% will make a huge difference after a few generations.
Of course. But the standard deviation introduces more complexity to the equation.
>but the difference to dizygotics is already telling much.
Yes the difference is huge, 30% vs 60%. But these studies did try to control for enviornment and ask if twins were treated equally, if they shared school, friends etc. And the estimate usually holds up. But due to the small sample size it's hard to determine the exact influence genetics/environment has.
>Repetition compulsion being an explanation for the reproduction through molestation meme made a lot of sense to me, though.
And it persists, and will persist among some people, sadly. Even though it has been shown to be wrong over and over. It's easy to justify your hatred with those arguments, it's why it persists. If they admit they're wrong, thry'll have to feel extra empathy.
>But homosexuality being mainly hereditary would require having an advantage for the siblings children
Great point. Gay uncle theory attempts to explain ths evolutionary advantage. In short, in evolutionary terms, kin selection is why homosexuality persists: a gay individual will help the survival and reproduction of their relative's offspring, rather than having children of their own. He will invest more resources, food, teaching, protection into his nieces and nephews, thus improving their survival chances. Some anthropological studies have shown that gay men are more often involved in caregiving to relative's children than straight men, but the evidence is mixed as this is harder to detect in modern societies. Bear in mind, this is just one evolutionary explanation among several. Other theories go deep into biology and (slightly) complex topics, although they are very interesting to read.

>>513039670
>Trans-Humanism
Don't do that. Grey aliens tried and they self-extincted themselves. Only a few who went back to natural ways remain.

>>513039351
Leave that home and find a new girl, it’s that simple. Get a cheap place thats your own, tell you're mom that her hoarding is destroying hers and yours life, and try to find someone new. Your mom wont change, shes not coming back, and its all up to you to change your situation, I believe in you anon

>>513025084
Lol same and I've seen that thumbnail.

>>513013182 (OP)

Reading these responses makes me realize Judaism is the way to go

White women are overrated roasties; a lost cause

Jewish women will crave your Aryan cock; there's a reason why Judaism focuses on matrilineal lineage for Judaism

Your children will be guaranteed 100% white since AshkeNAZI jews are mostly white anyways

Ashkenazi women lowkey can't stand their own men, introducing white sperm into the lineages will reduce genetic defects caused by inbreeding

and it is a guarantee that your children will remain white, Christcucks usually end up being interracial mudsharks anyways

>>513041782
wait until we shove you in freight trains moshe. then whisk you off to your long term summer camps with enhanced personal security
your end of times is almost here

Having a bunch of kids is like having your own private cult. You can teach them whatever you want and the jews hate this one simple trick.

No, I woke up one morning in the woods and was fully conscious and walked into society..
What kind of a stupid question is that, we all have a family or we wouldn't be here

>>513013182 (OP)
https://youtu.be/fUspLVStPbk?si=MLkOLVUn9GASF24Y

>>513042043
>513042043
>>513042043

I love it when people say this shit because religious Jewish are among the fastest growing ethnoreligious people

too bad most of them are inbred and retarded

we need more fresh meat, the mischlings usually hold top positions within western society

it's pretty cringey to rebuke it instead of trying to join the tribe

>>513040615
Anon, please let me excuse myself for being rude and petty and ruminating /pol/ talking points. I was in mood for an argument (its like 36 ̊here and I havent eaten anything today), and antinatalism – or what I perceive as such – makes me mad, as I see my society being evermore hostile to families and children, and turning into a sad, repulsive consumerscape without substance or purpose because of that.
Thank you for the discussion, from which I learned something.
May your siblings children carry on your essence some way or the other, your steadiness shows you could become such a nurturing gay uncle.

>>513013182 (OP)
My family looks like that

>>513042043

Even your dearest Nazi Party allowed Jew Half-Breeds near the top

They were more concerned with Ideology than ancestry

a family? is that a thing you have for a couple of years after she's "done having her fun", but before she divorce rapes you and gets custody of the kids who are taught to hate you and they live in your old house?

>>513013182 (OP)
We're expecting our first! Feels good bro

>>513039249
Gee I wonder how our ancestors ever managed.
I hate the mentality of
>you have to be capable of providing a better life materially for your children than your parents before you should eve consider procreation
The boomers have impossible standards to reach for probably 80% of millenials and zoomers. Millenials already wasted away their most fertile years believing what you're saying.
No one's going to be rich, but if you can provide necessities, live frugally, not do drugs, not be mentally ill, and not be abusive then you can be a good parent.
The stigmas surrounding being poor are deserved and true, but not applicable to all and not determinate as to how your children will feel about you or how they'll succeed.

>>513042517
Thank you anon. I really appreciate you listening and actually giving it a thought, barely anyone does, especially here. You are a nice person :')
And likewise, I wish you all the best in life.

>>513043094
Congratulations, I wish you all the best and strength to master the hardships the future will bring you. It will totally be worth it.

>>513043369
Thanks!

>>513037986
And are you currently in your actual homeland? Because I am pretty sure like 30% of Germany is not German.

Had a family, wife was killed in car accident.
Now it’s just me to raise son and daughter, both in early teens.
It’s not fair bros, she was a good woman.

>>513043537
I'm so sorry for your loss. I can't imagine the pain you all went through. But you still have a family anon.

>>513042043

Even your dearest Nazi Party allowed Jew Half-Breeds near the top

They were more concerned with Ideology than ancestry

>>513043313
Sorry for you it sucks getting molested as a kid
Happened to me as well but unlike you i haven't caught the gay disease

>>513043426
I'm pure ethnic German descendant of prussians and hesses and I still live next to the city I was born in. My wife is also German, one of her grandmas fled from south Bohemia from the cleansings. I'm thinking of moving away very seldom, because now I actually want to own a home for my family and the prices here are pure madness, and also I'm becoming more disappointed with Germany by the day.

>>513039504
Literally have more money and resources than most will ever imagine having, I'll be just fine. When I die, one of my cleaners will find me within 24 hours, so your argument is moot. Just because you live a sad life doesn't mean I do. Sure, it sucks being lonely sometimes, but then I go to the local college and fuck some 18-20 year old and then I'm not lonely anymore. Stay salty.

>>513015460
>She's perfect except for this one most important thing
Ya that means shes not perfect bro. Find the one who is imperfect but is dying to have kids and be a mom. That's the real perfect one. You only get one shot at life. Don't waste your youth on a woman who won't provide kids.

I'm married with 3. Ages 9, 7 and 4. Most important thing in my life is being a dad. Everything else hinges on it. Nothing else even matters. I work to provide for them. I spend as much time with them as possible. I work out and eat ok so I can be here longer for them. Sounds like you have the same drive I do. Could you honestly give that up?

Pic semi related

>>513044193
I was never molested, but thank you for your sympathy. It does suck being gay, especially where I live.

>>513013433
What did I just read lol
Your life plays out like a Cletus script on Simpsons. It's not the women, the problem is you!

>>513013216
Same , probably my my own hand

>>513043537
What a terrible fate. I hope you can find solace in that you and your children will always preserve a part of her and bring it with you wherever you go.

>>513039504
>I'm going to care what happens once I'm dead

>>513044292
What are German suburbans or proximity villages like? Is pricing outrageous in the villlages?
Might need to just build a tent in the black forest

>>513023000
Not seeing your daughter is YOUR FAULT.

Instead of complaining on 4chan, stop posting and go do something about it.

Save money, hire a better lawyer, do whatever you need to do. Make it happen, as your main priority. Reorient your whole life around that goal.

Go right now. Get started today. It may take a while.

>>513045496
somewhat clean and comfy, everyone is more or less cowardly appeasing to the mainstream. Depending on the town you can do what you wast or get the shit for stepping out of line. There are a lot of foreigners (mostly turks, italians, russians and poles), but those you meet are usually assimilated pretty much.
Because here are giant pharmaceutical and industrial corporations, the housing market is completely overpriced, with 3 bedroom houses being never under 400000 eurobucks when not totally in the middle of nowhere or on the brink of being ruins.
I actually know a hippy girl living in a yurt in the country, might be the last straw if things wont get better.

>>513021012
too poor to afford prenatal vitamins

>>513017197
>if we can compromise with this
How exactly does one 'compromise' on whether or not to have a baby?
She'll have one, but it'll be your best friend's?

>>513046416
>YOUR FAULT
While I support your suggestions, dont put the blame solely on him. Nobody is forcing single moms to be obnoxious cunts who use their children as weapons, and there are also the ones who let the children have their father after parting from him.

how is this thread still around the next day, did someone turn off the bots

Every single foid I've met did not want kids. In fact, they all took the
>global warming
koolaid and said having kids is nazi, and they would be born into a burning hellscape anyway.

Fuck this society, fuck the kikes, death to all niggers, poos, arabs and traitors. They have taken the joy of having a family from me.