Thread 513033549

I've been watching picrelated and he convinced me that exercise is stressful and bad for you. Any counterarguments?

>>513033549 (OP)
intense impact exercise is bad. For example, I stopped running many years ago. I use an exercise bike.

>>513033549 (OP)
If you ignore roiders, strong and men who work to preserve their youth alike die both old and young for various reasons. A lot of it really does come down to genetics, diet, and sometimes dumb luck.
In a way, it's a choice between living as a strong looking person with the capabilities to match or working to preserve your youth to look like you want and live the longest possible life. I see benefits and drawbacks to both and it's perfectly possible to fail at either one in any case.

>>513033549 (OP)
Everyone I know who hasn't exercised frequently over the last 15 years is dieing

>>513033549 (OP)
It's only bad if you do it obsessively(because that's feminine). Knew a dude who ran 10+ miles/day. He literally had a budget built in for new running shoes and ended up fucking up his knees due to running while dehydrated.

if you're fat, you need to exercise. if you're skinny, you don't. it's that simple.

>>513034305
What kind of exercise?

How old are you?

What do you mean “dieing”?

>>513035196
You can be skinny but still fat and weak inside. Everyone has to do resistance and cardio excercise. Hunter-gatherers and even farmers used to get all their exercise for free, modern man must struggle.

>>513033549 (OP)
Overwork and underwork are stressful for the body. A person who works out too much destroy their body or worse cardiac arrrest. Workouts temper the body by controling factors and developing the body in a closed environment. The use of muscle memory makes it so the body remembers your actions and is ready for real world application or moving on instinct. Running helps improve the bloodflow and makes the muscles have more endurance as well as lowers the resting heart rate. Strength training makes the body capable of lifting in a way that benefits. Human who lift heavy can lift themselves and the body can be stronger for longer and degrade slower. Overall men workout for the reasons of self defense and survival.
Now of course it's not perfect. Some people are genetically not built for exercise and damage their bodies in the process. You see many athletes peak out in high school due to injury. Genetics play some role in the process.

tl;dr

>>513033549 (OP)
>Any counterarguments?
Rewind history to the point before the industrial revolution or the invention of steel. What were people doing daily just to survive? That is what you should be doing to optimize health, exercise wise. They did a shit ton of physical labor, but they also ate a vastly different diet. As long as you make sure to keep yourself clean and purify your water, you're golden. Do as your ancestors did, that's what you evolved doing and adapting to.

Also, listening to any "Internet famous" talking head is a great way to fuck up your life. Jews run everything when it comes to visibility of content. Remember who runs things, and question why they are pushing this. In this case it's because they fear the strong, they are weak.

>>513033549 (OP)
of course it's unnatural: it's an ersatz substitute for natural exertion—hunting, chopping firewood, fetching water, warring, and so on

as to whether it's bad for you, well don't be so black-and-white about it; there's not just one thing called "exercise", is there?
it depends on the individual, what they're doing, where, when, why, for how long, on what sustenance, etc.
going for a little swim once a week—is that exercise? is it bad for you?
what about doing a few sit-ups or curls in the morning?
what about just carrying something heavy as part of a chore—is that exercise? should we avoid as stressful?

the entire way you're framing the question is... frankly, too retarded to be answerable
if you're not overly concerned about the stress and badness of it, I can think of one muscle in particular that I would urge you to exercise more frequently

>>513033549 (OP)
>Any counterarguments?
No because he's right

>>513033549 (OP)
Your joints are like tires and have a limited life span if you overuse or dont maintain them with a good protein diet you will be fucked for sure

>>513033549 (OP)
If you are watching this retard you should kys for being a bigger retard

Staying fit is important, the whole point of exercising is to stay like that and be able to do daily things without a problem. Otherwise, bodybuilding for the sake of getting big doesn't make any sense, but working out as a way to do a specific job is totally fine. It all depends of what is the purpose of it.

>>513033549 (OP)
>If you don't eat raw meat you are mentally ill
This nigga a ragebaiter

>>513033636
> exercise bike
Gay

>>513035285
He can’t answer those questions anon, because he made it all up

>>513033549 (OP)
>Huge headband, absolutely massive, to hide the hairline that has receded worse than the Ukraine front lines

>>513033549 (OP)
>Any counterarguments?
Yes.
LOOK AT HIM.
Are you blind, or just stupid?

>>513037609
go back to your memeflag babykiller kike

>>513037856
Chill ahmed, let the white people talk

>>513033549 (OP)
ITT fat faggots making excuses

>>513035669
Athletes who peak in high school are usually natural, the ones who keep going are either not competing or taking roids. The problem with exercise is that most people do too much of it without proper recovery time. I blame the roid users for normalizing high rep high intensity when that's clearly not the way to go for naturals.

Sport and sport training is natural and good.

Non-sport specific exercise is not unnatural or bad but basically can only be understood as a sport, which always comes with drawbacks.

There’s a difference between sport, training, exercise, and activity. What’s really called for is a lifestyle of sport, activity, perhaps training, and then lastly, exercise.

>>513033549 (OP)
DO AS YOUR TOLD, SLAVE

>>513037707
i use my exercise bike in front of the computer. It's convenient and fast. 1 hr on it watching youtube and done for the day.

>>513037979
Gotta hate when horseshoe theory is proven right

>>513033549 (OP)
Guess was faggot stress is actually good for you in consistent small doses.
Look up something called hormesis.
And only watch this LOLCOW for the entertainment value

The only thing I eat 'rare' is Mett and Fischbrötchen and sometimes a good steak but then still only lifhtl done.
Munching some rare meat from the supermarket is a stupid idea and it doesn't even taste very good.

>>513033549 (OP)
humans are one of the best endurance hunters on the planet. Canines are good too but they overheat more easily. No other animal on the planet is as good as humans at endurance hunting in warm weather. Exercise is also needed for your lymphatic system, the pump for your lymph system is your physical movement. Exercise also helps balance your hormones.

Vigorous Exercise every day might be unnatural but doing it sometimes is definitely not

>>513033549 (OP)
>Any counterarguments?
Persistence hunting is what our body was made for.

ITT: round fat fucks coping

>>513035031
My friends dad was one of those guys and he literally dropped dead completely at random while eating steak at family dinner at 54. My friend said he like instantly died, was raising a bite to his mouth and just blanked out and dropped the fork. He had run 10+ miles a day for 30+ years rarely missing a day

There is a thought in the physiology community that the heart is basically good for a set amount of beats. you can just run your engine out.

>>513038951
Exercise does help with fat loss, but not so much as just eating less. You have to eat like an elegant skinny girl to get skinny. And the best exercise is walking. Everyone can walk. You just need 10,000 steps per day and you're good.

>>513039109
The best exercise is pretty much swimming. Tons of people can't walk. Joints don't last.

10k steps was a lie-- new research indicates you get the health benefits of not being sedentary with even less, like 3k steps. The most important thing in life is to not be totally sedentary

Your people are some swimmin motherfuckers...

>>513038609
lymph nodes will drain from walking alone, same with hormones i think the OPs point is about regular high stress resistance training....no animal in nature would continously lift things up and down to make it look more muscular, we are naturally what we need to be from the start (yes some people are genetic freaks but in a natural world we would prob kill them and eat them)

>>513039050
10+ miles per day for 30 years is insanely unhealthy. It would've made sense if he had a boxing career or was an olympic tier marathoner, but definitely not if you plan on living long. Like god damn. Learn to take it easy some days.

>>513033549 (OP)
You would exercise by walking, running, moving things, hunting, gym or home exercise is a replacement for that you just don't need to go overboard with it.

>>513039109
>You have to eat like an elegant skinny girl to get skinny
that is not true at all.
All you have to do is eat as little fast as possible.

>>513039352
fast=fat

>>513039109
This is true. The best diet is a slight caloric deficit. Low impact steady state cardio (walking) is good to maintain a caloric deficit. Many people over complicate this.

>>513039215
Swimming is good, but it makes me hungry af. My stomach is always growling after a swim.

>>513033549 (OP)
Why is he wearing that cap, did his wig fall off again?

>>513033549 (OP)
I go for a 45 minute swim every day. I believe that it's the optimal form of exercise, but I have no proof.

>>513039215
I grew up very rural in a house next to a few farmers and we had a big sea a few meters away from our house.
I learned to swim with 3 when my father threw me in the water and then I guess old instincts got activated.
I was swimming every single day with my friends.
Must be hard for city faggots who never saw water except with a swimming pool.

>>513039310
I remember he would come home from running in blizzard type conditions with icicles hanging off his beard and hat. He was one of those. Fwiw, I think he lived the life he wanted and wouldn't have traded it. If you love running like that and your body supports it I envy you for feeling so much wind in your face through life.

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>>513039050
Actually fairly common in people who do high cardio exercise for a lifetime, like soccer players.
Yes, even pre-vax times.

>>513039603
Exercise scientist here you are basically right as I stated right before your post

>>513039603
>I believe that it's the optimal form of exercise,
It most certainly is not the best exercise. Water can end your life in minutes. I stay away from water nowadays.

>>513033549 (OP)
>nooooo don't look at tons of peer reviewed studies
>go with this youtuber's vague hunch

>>513039680
That's awesome I'm glad your experience is very different from usual euros. Our perception of Europeans is that they spend basically zero time in nature. Europeans also tend to drastically underestimate America's nature and how much we go into it

>>513038609
godless faggot

>>513039680
sehr gut

one should strive for the asmongold fysique
sheer apex ùbermensch

>>513039965
>peer reviewed
PEERS - as in receive funding from the same interest group. :DDDD

>>513039974
Most of Europe is actually rural and we don't have gigantic metropolis like Tokyo with 30 million people. Most Germans are rather rural semi close to cities but those areas are not some suburbs copy and paste garbage like many areas of the usa have.
Problem is we have so many nature and historical buildings laws that you can't build bug gives everywhere and you can walk everywhere 10km in a random direct and you will find some city or town.
We need more Lebensraum.

>>513033549 (OP)
If you faggots actually had sex a lot you wouldn't be obsessing over this and worrying about exercising.

>>513033636
i have heard that running too hard/fast/too much can have bad impact on your body, espceially parts like legs,knees. is this true or some bs made up by lazyfags?

>>513041745
If you are under 30 and thin, intense exercise shouldn't be a problem. Slow down after 30 to preserve your knees.

anons, how do you cope with stress/anger/rage? im asking because sometimes im not even lazy to go to the gym, but fucked up day at work makes me super angry and makes me rage like a little bitch. even last minute problematic even fucks whole day good mood. im so fucking stressed i dont want to do anything, just reach home ASAP and start eating everything like an elephant. its not that much about died, but gym itself. for example - today in the morning i packed my work stuff AND gym bag with all stuff with plan to drive straight to gym after work, because its near my workplace. last hour at the job , everything got fucked up. im in rage mode. said: fuck the gym, im eating chips and ice cream today, might even dump some alcohol at the evening

>>513041041
Is that the Elbe river?

>>513041745
Eat the right food and then those problems will not happen.
But you will die faster. Humans like many other animals have around 1 billion heartbeats until the heart dies.
It's programmed in your body and when running you have a high heart rate so you're killing yourself slowly and take lifetime away from you.
We're endurance people and back then one hunting tactic was running after a fleeing animal until they could not anymore and simply died from exhausting.

>>513042143
Großer Plöner See.
Holsteinische Schweiz.
Kreis Plön.

That's Sv3ridge. He's insane. Quite possible literally.

>>513042065
>Slow down after 30 to preserve your knees.
This. An hour a day of low impact cardio + weight training is the way to go.

>>513033549 (OP)
It is more rational to conclude based on assumptions that you need a simple up to your limits schedule that keeps things within bounds and only very slightly pushes the limit a bit further, like for instance doing 11 pullups instead of 10 after about 10 orso times you have trained

I find the idea logical that stress as a force will degrade you in every way: be it on the internet, work, socialising with people who make you feel confronted and stressed, etc.
Prolonged exposure will definetely lead to loss of youth, lower energy and probably lesser life span.

However doing no exercise on the opposite end becomes horrible based on how bad it is like just sitting and moving little.

It is like the world is caught in between two opposing forces of laziness and perpetual stress from work.

With exercise you can continue to motivate your body increase bloodflow and psychologically develop yourself to become more productive which combats lethargy and depression but not always but it does remove the feeling of meaningless existence.
Additionally you create confidence and self worth based on your physical progress wjhich gives a feeling of trust and reassurance.

So as a conclusion you need to find limits with yourself and see what suits best for you so you have something challenging you must climb and to overcome to create a sense of psychological value but also enough to not overwork yourself into potentially physically harming yourself or as the presupposition states shorter life span.

>>513041745
Doing it too hard is never good. Still better than barely exercising at all and getting fat. Just do it with balance. Genetics also plays a part

>>513043475
The heart is a muscle after all and even by far the most important one. Sitting on your fat ass all day will make your heart weak but surely running 200km+ marathons is not good either.

>>513033549 (OP)
Not just exercise is unhealthy, eating is unhealthy.
Health = diet
It is just as important to not eat anything as it is to eat. Fast atbleast 1 day a week.

>>513033549 (OP)
You are far more likely to fuck yourself up by sitting all day

>>513033549 (OP)
I have a friend who did excessive exercise with running, weight lifting and mma for over 20 years. Approaching 40 His shoulder is now completely fucked, slap injury.
People who lift weights multiple times a week are incredibly stupid because they are not realizing how damaging it can be in the long run.

>>513033549 (OP)
Don't exercise. Every unecessary movement ages your body