Thread 513038537

>What do you think the legacy of Hillbilly Elegy is now? Do you think about it?

>I don’t think about it. I know it’s a mixed bag and probably quite culturally divided. I also know that reviews were bad and the audience-reaction rating was pretty good.

>You obviously spent a lot of time with J.D. Vance back then; you did press together. Are you able to reconcile the person you knew and the character in the movie with the person you see now?

>Am I able to reconcile? Well, it’s happened, so I know what I’ve observed. It remains a bit of a surprise to me. I would not have seen it coming, and I wouldn’t have expected his rhetoric to be as divisive as it sometimes is. By the way, I’m not following him or listening to every word.

>I remember reading that the response to the film had really shocked him.Vance’s closest friend at Yale told Washington Post Magazine in 2022 that the critical derision for the movie was the “last straw” in his falling-out with elites. [A spokesperson for Vance did not respond to requests for comment.] Did you get that sense at the time?

>Yes, I did. He was frustrated by that. He loved Glenn Close’s performance and Amy Adams’s performance and liked the film. And he felt that, just as reviews had kind of turned on the book, his involvement was in some way tainting or coloring the critical response, and he resented it.

>I remember some suggested the response to the film might have turned him even more to the right.

>I can’t speak to that. When I was working with him, all his quotes about the administration were very public. He was trying to run an investment fund. So the run for Senate and the strategy he’s chosen to follow are not what I would’ve expected.

>Have you had any interactions with him since then?

>I did one text, after the election, which was just sort of “Godspeed. Try to serve us well.”

https://www.vulture.com/article/ron-howard-in-conversation.html

Reminder that Vance is Peter Thiel's bitchboy

>>513038537 (OP)
Lol the movie was probably financed by peter thiel and his goons. Ron Howard is just another fucking grifter just like his whore daughter

Didn't this nigger make three Da Vinci Code movies? Maybe disown one of them, or that shitty whale movie where Thor and Spider Man are trying to do Boston accents
>>513038539
You should check out the credits for the movie Thank You For Smoking

>levridges his poor family to promote himself
>does everything to make the region poorer

>>513038539
But his daughter is built like a brick shithouse

>>513038541
He also shits on everyone he claims to have grown up with

>>513038537 (OP)
Nothing in your post indicates that he's disowned the movie. It was probably just a paycheck to him and he's moved on.

The only reason this book became popular was because liberals were so surprised by Hillary eating shit in 2016 that they looked for some explanation from rural America. Of course they didn't go actually talk to rural America, nobody does. They instead found a college-educated finance capitalist who wrote a fictional story about his adolescence in rural America.

Then they boosted him and made him an example of the culture of rural America, which is false and not based on any material reality, and that led to his political career.

The book says that rural people are irredeemable fuck-ups who just want to do opiates and wallow in self pity all day. His prescription is for rural whites to pull themselves up by their boot straps, go to an ivy league school, and spend lots of special private time on Peter Thiel's yacht.

None of it addresses the century of urban capitalists strip-mining and grinding poor rural people into mulch. The agricultural barons of the 19th century fucked up middle-America so bad that they were having dustbowls, landslides, and historic floods on top of being barefoot primitives riddled with parasites. When any of them tried to fight back, private police were sent in to get everyone in order. It was an internal war against poor people. Then it ramped up in the early 20th century until the federal government had to step in and re-construct the ecology of several geographic areas in order to keep the country from falling apart from inside. That was only to then just continue the massive value extraction but with more modern methods and technology that didn't immediately destroy the land.

Vance bypasses real history in favor of saying it's just everyone's personal moral failings that causes mass poverty.

>>513038541
tale as old as time

I guess I never thought about it, but Ron Howard is a real piece of shit.

>>513038545
They literally dropped mustard gas on striking miners

>>513038545
then hollywood does the rural purge so that there can't be any media to make greater America sympathetic to rural communities or see rural people as human beings

>>513038547
that would be JD vance and every single one of trumps disgusting spineless yes-men

>>513038545
Shiet

>>513038537 (OP)
Whether it be Desantis, Rubio, or Vance that becomes the next President they will screech literally Hitler all over again. Nobody cares anymore. They cried wolf one too many times and if an actual wolf comes along nobody will believe them.

>>513038545
>Capitalism bad because dust bowl

>>513038537 (OP)
All that sounds like is Vance was hurt by the critical reviews, that he hadn’t even run for senator yet so obviously he’d be surprised he turned into the VP, and they hadn’t spoken outside of Ron texting him good luck. Big fucking deal? Seems pretty normal to me

>>513038550
Go the fuck back, Sanchez

>I thought he was just a money hungry friend of the people who fueled the rise of Trump
>I never could have imagined he was a power-hungry puppet who'd use this exposure for a political rise
Andy wasn't there to teach Opie the lesson so he didn't learn it.

>>513038553
>it's okay for jewish small business billionaires to turn white people into slaves, murder them, and destroy their environment because a leftist might be browsing /tv/ and think that they are correct
grow up

>>513038541
It's also a lie, he wasn't poor lol

>>513038558
The Trey Parker and Matt Stone of real life.

>>513038557
Meds

>>513038552
Like when JD called Trump Hitler?

>>513038545
>None of it addresses the century of urban capitalists strip-mining and grinding poor rural people into mulch.

YOU THINK IT WOULD HAVE BEEN BETTER UNDER COMMUNISM YOU GENOCIDAL SATANIC TANKIE FILITH?

>>513038539
Why exactly did Thiel go all in on Vance? Like I only hear about their connection, not its origin

>>513038561
kek
not that anon but you clearly have no argument or understanding of what is being said

>>513038564
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWMaCIqegI

>>513038537 (OP)
He is a liberal deeply entrenched. Vance to me is not to be trusted. Who goes on and shits all over the culture he grew up and his family and then marries a Hindu? Something is wrong with him. And now he says he's a Catholic? What kind Appalachian is Catholic. I don't like him he's weak.

>>513038567
>nooooo you can't have a rich mentor or you're a puppet! you must be a self-made Amazon driver like me!

>>513038566
Idc kill yourself already

>>513038538
Thiel is a federal contractor. These ppl are not infiltrating anything, the feds are rotten to begin with.

>>513038537 (OP)
Both appropriate working class issues/themes for their own self-advancement. So? These purity test pissing contests are boring, more like plebs in search of personal idols to worship. We're not in the middle ages anymore, be your own personal god.

>>513038537 (OP)
Television & film?

>>513038545
I still don't understand why Trump picked him.

>>513038568
Assuming actually growing up deprived WITHOUT any true sense of community roots and love and belonging and deep connections to your family, a switch flips in you and you'd easily be sociopathic as fuck in the pursuit of power and wealth to fill the void and, at last, feel secure.

t. I conform to this. Like if I had a rival or someone I hated only the law and consequences would make me hesistate from lacing their coffee with datura or some shit

I mean it is absolutely what a lot of these critics have been doing for a long time. Political games under the guise of media and artistic critique. It's also why you see seething about chudtubers and the like, they're interfering with the course plotting.

>>513038537 (OP)
Hollywood is all about optics. WTH does "gone more to the right" mean in real world terms, if say Pascal "stays more to the far left" hasn't done any lick of good for the common person? As Hollywood's poster boy, he convinced zalphas that caring for troons by putting troons in the front of the line means catering to troons' needs serves EVERYONE? All are virtue signaling morons serving themselves only.

>>513038563
I think it would have been better if coal miners and farmers would have brutally murdered every Rothschild, Carnegie, Rockefeller, Dupont, Hearst, Astor, Ford, Mellon, Duke, Schwab, and Vanderbilt.

>>513038574
You will understand Vance/Fuentes 2028 but it will be too late.

>>513038572
What was the first thing Elon Musk did on January 22nd? Take data from all the federal entities.

>>513038545
I recommed this book, the subtitle didn't age well since he couldn't predict 9/11 happening in a few years but the rest is a solid look on how rural farmers got raped by the banks and government and ended up radicalised.

>>513038567
Ultimately he's just the Dan Quayle of the Podcast era.
Broader shoulders, a gritty man beard, but ultimately the same weasel demeanor, squeaky voice and the same aspirations to be more than a corporate puppet to appease key demographics and funders but incapable of doing that.
His post-presidency will probably just be a series of increasingly small book tours where he laments one way or another depending on who is giving him the money at the time.

>>513038570
KEK

>>513038567
why is every tripfag a liberal faggot

>>513038579
Enough boomers have to die before they vote for a catboy lover

>>513038541
How is he making the region poorer? I thought trump's tariffs were ultimately trying to restore the rust belt, and foreign countries have been building more factories in America. Did you see how much Japan is investing?

>>513038555
go the fuck back, Ivan.

>>513038582
Doubt. He's already be astroturfed as the successor for MAGA - a cult movement. In reality there is no successor and they know it.

>>513038580
The feds intend to govern us the cattle with AI, just like in China. He is a major Pentagon contractor. These "VIPs" are all just civilian fronts of a millitary industrial complex now turning their powers to domestic pop.

>>513038541
Yes because what rural Appalacia needs is more immigrants and more tax policies that lead to outsourcing.

But hey at least they can get shitty government "benefits" financed by their own tax dollars.

>>513038584
Why you so mad? Is it because you know it's the truth?

>>513038578
Why do you hate Old Money so much?

>>513038584
that’s a /co/mblr troon he’s here raiding with his sisters.

I am Maga Adjacent.

CAN WE AGREE TRUMP'S 2ND TERM IS VASTLY WORSE THAN HIS FIRST?

The worst thing he did during his 1st term was abandon the Kurds.

The worst this term are...

> Canceling Usaid/Handicapping PepFar
PepFar was the greatest moral achievement in Republican history, it made up for the mistakes of the Iraq war many times over.

> Reprehensibly fucking with Ukraine.

> Sending people without trial to the foreign gulag.

> Threatening to invade Greenland/Canada.

>>513038582
Quayle is totally silver spoon. Vance has a winsome folksy persona that's believable. USG have figured out how to win "hearts and minds".

>>513038540

>You should check out the credits for the movie Thank You For Smoking

Holy shit, the author of the book is the son of William F Buckley.

>>513038580
>Take data from all the federal entities.

Is there literally ANY evidence of this? I work in Cybersecurity so you and I both know this didnt happen.

>>513038542
shes just fat

>>513038588
Gotta love that the climate cult freaks are calling 98% of America a cult. I hate liberals so fuckin much.

>>513038594
Just say you're a liberal faggot, nigga.

>>513038594
>can we
AI bots are so annoying STFU & use your energy to solve cancer

>>513038537 (OP)
JD Vance is the personification of the CIA/deep state

>>513038586
deficit spending + debt far outpace the time it needs to resurrect domestic mfg. tariffs are putting cart before horse. USD dies (devaluation) on Trump's acceleration but the money printing was excused under Biden. 2-team effort.

>>513038541
he knows what theyre like. Theyre irredeemable

>>513038594
>> Sending people without trial to the foreign gulag.
1.America is not doing the imprisonment
2.You dont need a fucking trial to deport someone. Deportation is not trial worthy. There's nothing for a jury to decide.

pol is overrun by russian bots.
all "real" magats are ashamed to admit they are due to the epstein disaster.

>>513038594
>>513038600
Yes saving 25 million fucking lives is factually moral.

>>513038601
False.
I fucking hate wokeness.
I want Hasan Piker fucking dead.
I support gun rights.
I want the border secured.
I generally still support the Iraq war (but agree disbanding the Iraqi army was a biblical mistake)
I support 90-95+% of America's Cold War actions including the Iranian coup and funding the Mujahideen (that did NOT cause 9/11 fuck you fucking liars)

>>513038606
>1.America is not doing the imprisonment
We asked for them to be imprisoned.
>2.You dont need a fucking trial to deport someone.
If they are being imprisoned on the receiving end yes you fucking do.

What board was this moved to /pol/ from?

>>513040196
The literature one probably

>>513040196
/tv/

He can do like George Lucas did with the tapes of the Star Wars Christmas Special and try to buy them all up. But this will just make it a bigger hit in the long run.