Thread 513043647

>>513043647 (OP)
Odds are pretty fucked

>>513043647 (OP)
Depends if the congress decides to kick out the boot licking retard or not after ridiculing the country to suck his pimp.

>>513043647 (OP)
BASED! money for Isarel

>>513043647 (OP)
>the ukraine loses war to no ones surprise despite constant retard tier propaganda
>usa must concede resources to russia for the loss
?

It makes Putin look weak af if he needs Daddy Trump to save him after nearly 4 years.

>>513044147
>>usa must concede resources to russia for the loss
you mean ukranian resources, right? there's no way trump gives up US resources. ukranian resources have been on the table for the US, but trump may give that up.

i think an initial deal has already been made though and the face-to-face is about discussing how to move forward.

>>513044438
>It makes Putin look weak af if he needs Daddy Trump to save him after nearly 4 years.
i doubt most russians would really care. russia is a single country up against basically all of nato pumping billions of dollars into ukraine. it's a stalemate at this point with russia choosing not to exercise their full might.

>>513044147
A big chunk of minerals that Zylynskyy sold to US are in Russian occupied regions, so Ukranny ceding territory = US giving away resources.

>>513045065
>with russia choosing not to exercise their full might
lmao

>>513045996
Are the ukro frontlines not collapsing? Russia has clearly shown a lot of restraint up until now and could wipe Kiev off the map if it desired to do so

>>513046374
>Russia has clearly shown a lot of restraint up until now
LMAO!

>>513045996
russia was just using their standard meat-grinder strat. if they wanted to they could have leveled ukraine after lunch. however, if they did that they would have other world powers sending in forces to take russia. that's why russia kept this conflict relatively low-key.

>>513046964
Well the nuke threats don't mean much if Russia is too afraid to use them.

>>513046530
you think ukraine is winning? i never saw putin trotting around asking for resources, except for best korea soldiers.

Why not just begin respect Russia?! Things can go better after that i suppose.

>>513043647 (OP)
Putin still demands that Ukraine receive no US or European weapons or troops after the war.

>>513046530
It has, they have thousands of ballistic missiles and so far have used them only once during this conflict, Russia hasn't done mass mobilizations either

>>513047414
I hope he will continue the war. I want to see more ziggers dying.

>>513047178
trump is inviting putin to US soil where they can have a safe meeting. seems like respect for russia to me.

>>513047520
Well yes. This good for sure, hope it will fix things.

>>513043647 (OP)
>>513043796
>>513043914
>>513046374
>>513046964

You people are delusional. Trump met with Putin in Helsinki & then next year he raped Putin by giving Ukraine lethal aid. Putin is getting played once again.

>>513043647 (OP)
COMPLETELY FUCKED

>>513043647 (OP)
roomers are Putin wants to suggest joint development of arctic.
it is smart on multiple levels because all it does is balances out China.

>>513047505
>>513047594
>>513047475
>>513047414
>>513043647 (OP)

see

>>513047616

Ukraine's getting another round of lethal aid!

>>513047414
those have nothing to do there on russian land.
you people should not have invaded ukraine to begin with.

>>513047717
Yeah more than likely, Trump is going to be mad when Putin wont change the war goals Russia has and do some impotent chimp move like that to prolong the conflict out of spite

>>513047717
>>513047826
fresh nafo cope arrived.
dig in fellas

>>513047893
What nafo cope? Learn how to read

>>513047701
>roomers are Putin wants to suggest joint development of arctic.
that makes things too complicated. trump is focused on stopping the war. if that happens it would bring russia and US closer and then subsequent talks about developing the arctic together could occur. trump is a really straightforward guy.

>>513047125
>except for best korea soldiers
Yeah they're necessary for a reason aren't they?
>>513047475
Glad you escaped across the border.

>>513048060
there are trillions of dollars of undiscovered resources hidden.
He won't be able to resist.

You people kinda already digging in to our peace of the pie. You developed tech to drill for oil under an angle to get some from our part of arctic..

so this wont change much for us. Will simplify shit for you people and give Trump an illusion of a win. One thing you can't resist is an illusion of a win.

>>513047826
I have not read after
>Yeah
your flag is enough to be sentenced to nafo gulag

>>513048070
I've told you many times border is closed, you know my argument is correct so you resort to this childish stuff once again because otherwise you'd have to shut up or agree

also it will isolate europe even more.
and it will be for grabs by china or us.

the future is bright.

>>513048070
>Yeah they're necessary for a reason aren't they?
i mean, not really. best korea soldiers probably have shit training and have never been battle-tested. the US forever wars actually had a silver lining and that was many of our soldiers have seen combat or are at least senior enough to convey the reality of war to new recruits.

>>513047893

Cope was Russians simping for Trump after Helsinki only for Trump to turn around and arm Ukraine to the teeth a year later.

>>513048367
As if I give a shit whether you respect my flag or not, if you dont want to talk about the negotiations or the conflict I suggest you talk to someone else

>>513043647 (OP)
Based Donald already said he won't be talking any land swaps.

>>513048562
>arm Ukraine to the teeth
when did that happened exactly?

he cut off the weapon deliveries.

but most importantly: who cares?
by now even stupid niggers like you have to admit that those do nothing.
ukraine is losing more and more every day and it only getting worse for them. Their collapse is accelerating as we speak.

I wonder how you niggers even able to cope at this point. There are 0 positive news for you stupid niggers and millions of negative ones..

do you just concentrate on cope articles about "russia bad" or "russia will collapse soon"?

lmao. keep coping :D

>>513048603
I highly doubt anyone on this planet respects your gay flag.

>>513048367
>so this wont change much for us. Will simplify shit for you people and give Trump an illusion of a win. One thing you can't resist is an illusion of a win.
how is an end to the war an illusion of a win? that's really the only goal here. both russia and US have plenty of resources so there is no need for a joint venture in acquiring them. plus our tech is probably more advanced so letting russia see it is a big L.

>>513048427
>I've told you many times border is closed
Glad you made it before that happened.
>>513048519
>i mean, not really.
Yeah, really.

>>513047775
I'm just saying Putin won't agree to it, and the US and Ukraine won't go along if they don't. So there is no end to the war.

>>513048809

Obama didn't arm Ukraine, it was Trump who started that. Trump does bunch of a theatrics & tries to make shady business deals with corrupt leaders, but the underlying deep state arms policy stays the same or gets worse under him.

>>513048900
it is an illusion because it is a defeat from the points you people set up for yourselves when you planned out this war and invested something like a trillion over the years to make it happen and keep it going.
While our goals have not shifted one bit and about to be achieved fully.
how is it a win from your point of view?

it was more advanced in 90s..
I am not sure if you have noticed but you people stagnated quite a bit over the years. At least in industries that matter.

those resources are cheap to extract and it is in the place that is for grabs by everyone willing. The more we get now the less we lose later.

>>513048869
Good thing I dont give a fuck if they do or do not, you still didn't learn how to read tho, what a riveting conversation this is

>>513043647 (OP)
Not at all. Nothing will come of this meeting.

>>513048954
>I'm just saying Putin won't agree to it, and the US and Ukraine won't go along if they don't. So there is no end to the war.
trump has publicly said something similar. basically, if putin doesn't agree to the terms, then fuck it you guys duke it out. personally, i don't care what wars are happening on the other side of the planet. just don't send them money. if you can broker peace then fine, that's good, but overall whatever.

>>513049189
by your own trans logic you should see that all this dancing he feels is necessary now is caused by the fact that he is scared and tries to minimize the damage of a hit that is about to come.

>>513048954
Will he survive the

Child prostitution accusation -> martial law pattern?

>>513046374
>Are the Ukro frontlines not collapsing
They've barely moved in 3 years. WW1 was a lightning war in comparison.

>>513046374
God damn commies are braindead

>>513043647 (OP)
I'm guessing this meeting will be 20% Ukraine and 80% talk about Greenland/Arctic passage rights. I don't think Russians give a shit about Ukraine like everyone else here does to them it's a minor border skirmish they can keep going indefinitely since India and China happily buy all their oil and gas

>>513049292
Communism is jewish, Stalin was a anti white, anti slavic shabbas goy who helped communist kikes butcher white russians

>>513048954
the cool thing is.. At this point there are not much Trump can offer Putin.
But one thing he can that would be of interest to our side is rolling back nato a bit from our borders.

If he does that this war would be over by the end of this month.

All I hope is this war escalates way further so we get millions of ukro and ruzzian chicks and my apartments will double in price again, just like in 2022

>>513049503
yes they do not mindlessly repeat your fake talking points

>>513049214
>While our goals have not shifted one bit and about to be achieved fully.
what are the goals of russia? to keep ukraine out of NATO? to rebuild the former soviet union? from here in the US it seems like keeping ukraine out of NATO was the main goal.

>>513049550
that demo line has nothing to do with this conversation nafo troon.

>>513049550

Stalin was based Georgian who loved aryan people and was assassinated after he decided to send every single jew to gulag

>>513049623
we get back our people into our country.
The land we are fighting for has been Russian since the day 1.

it was "gifted" to ukraine by Lenin.

you people are not taking seriously when we say that we are trying to protect our people because that is an excuse you always use in your fake wars.

but this is that rare time when it is 100% truth.

>>513049665
>if you dont like Stalin you're a nafo troon
You are seriously retarded, go to a doctor as soon as possible

>>513049788
for someone so addicted to context you are a bit picky to when be mad about it.

I suggest you start reading nafo troon :D

>>513049623
also it is the first time we make a hard stand against nato and being serious about our security concerns since the end of the cold war..

this war is a about a lot of things...

>>513049781
Is favorite movie had an American coal burner as the main character and a Hitler look-alike as the villain. He only got based at the end because crypto Jewish commies were fucking everyone over. He did what he had to do to save the Soviet Union from them.

>>513044147
almost like all the
>WE'RE A SOVERIGN NATION
shit was bullshit and they did in fact get couped by the united states in 2014

>>513043647 (OP)
He's right about gadaffi levels of fucked.

>>513049552
Lifting sanctions is the biggest offer obviously then US multi million dollar oil tech can bid to come in there and build modern refineries or drilling platforms that are turnkey ops where you collect a percentage probably tripling national revenues in a single year. Only Russia and Venezuela have cheap access to the kind of heavy crude preferred for diesel mfg. US in Alaska has access and Canada but way more expensive.

>>513050182
>REEE HOW COME THIS COUNTRY DOESN'T WANT TO BE A SHITHOLE RAN BY JUDEO BOLCHEISM AND INSTEAD WANT TO LIVE LIKE AMERICA
>THIS IS A CIA COUP!!!

Stupid shitskin

>>513049623
also it marks quite a lot of things.

since 90's people here were overwhelmingly pro west and pro usa. (myslef included)
it has changed. And that cured our society from NGOs influence that is being used to take over smaller countries in the region.

also after the fall of Soviet Union there were unspoken rules and expectations about how Russia treats new countries that originated from USSR.
The rules have changed.

We are now expanding into new areas of influence like Africa. Those wanted us since forever but we were too shy about it to be friendly to europe.

There were some post ww2 claims western countries had that we were negotiating before the war in ukraine. Now we simply dismissed those.

Before this war BRICS was not united. Now it is.

China was actually pro western because they thought that there is always a possibility to strike a deal with americans. And that they won't try to destroy China just because it is being successful.. Now those delusions are gone.

this war helped us get our shit together on so many fronts.
simplified and clarified everything


But most importantly we got back our Super Power status.
and US lost it's Hyper Power status.

>>513050552
oh it is not even an offer at this point.

it is a condition to even start any serious negotiations.
The truth is though. Most of those sanctions are beneficial for us. The reason why our economy is doing so good is not war time economy. It is the fact that businesses that were not able to compete against western products are flourishing now.

interesting.. I always wondered why our oil was considered low quality and was cheaper than other kinds. I guess it is some jewish marketing.

>>513051044
Nice bot post

>>513051044
>we got back our Super Power status
kek

>>513048809
>ukraine is losing more and more every day and it only getting worse for them
translation: the putin has been burning soldiers at an accelerated rate to get some minor victory before the meeting with Trump.

>>513051596
all of it is true though nafo troon.

you lost. You dreamed of destruction of Russia and like many more before you you actually caused it to become way way more strong and powerful :D

White people need to stop killling each other up behind some Jewish comedian and his lies. That's the bottom line. This war is a Jewish scheme and even pol doesn't see it for what it is.

As usual, not a single white person is defending puccia.

>>513051676
>soldiers
ukranian soldiers yes.

>>513047616
Why would Putin fall for it again? He flat out said before you can never trust the USA. And plus, he’s meeting on U.S territory so trump could literally send in troops whenever to arrest him. None of this makes any type of sense

>>513051720
>>513051596
that is btw how you actually achieve freedom and power.

by overcoming obstacles and surviving impossible odds.

the irony is we never wanted it. You force us to become better time and time again.

the future is bright..

>>513051950
lmao.
I wonder how desperate you have to be to take that seriously and to bring it up to begin with.

>>513052060
cope zigger

I asked chtgpt what happens in case of tactical nukes use.

It reasoned, the Ukraine military would give up… but Zelensky would move to a nuke bunker and say everyone gotta fight on despite being nuked to death.

>>513051324
You have access to "sweet crude" but there's that one basin in Russia with hundreds of billions of heavy crude aka high sour/sulpher content oil.
Because of the shenanigans of OPEC during the 1970s the vast majority of refinieries worldwide were converted to adapt to heavy crude and also because your oil is much cheaper than say buying 'Louisiana Sweet' or Arab oil.
Then fracked crude was discovered but
refineries could not efficiently process it and revamps/new refineries were too expensive and basically impossible to build in any western country due to regulations now so can only use imported heavy crude.

If sanctions get lifted then 'cheap' heavy crude gets shipped to the US again and overnight diesel fuel prices drop which means Trump gets his rapidly expanding economy.
US can also pump this out of Alaska but vastly cheaper to simply pick up the phone and buy it from Russia or Venezuela, every country with legacy refineries has same problem

>>513043647 (OP)

He gonna sign the Bomb

>>513050748
ookranians are free to leave to America if they want to :^)

>>513043647 (OP)

Economically-Strategically-Militarily

Who offers the greater resources & economic potential?

Israel-JewKraine or Russia, and what about China?

>>513046374
Not without nuclear weapons, the sabre rattling stopped, not quite sure what happened with the Greenland propositions but personally I think the war is cooling off, Russia keeps crimea and some territory, I think it's almost over and Geneva convention I believe are in talks to sanction drone warfare

>>513052732

Now is the time to align with Russia and put GloboHomo under the Jack-Boot!

Fuck Europe - its lost forever -

Let that be a lesson in GloboHomo - Degeneracy

>>513052732

After asking that... (((Who))) is the bigger DRAIN of resources?

>>513043647 (OP)
I finally found what Trump is reportedly offering Putin
https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-arctic-oil-gas-putin-trump-ukraine-war-2113437 (use wayback machine if blocked)
Newspeak and Telegraph claiming Trump is going to offer an oil and rare earth materials deal where Russia gets access to Alaskan reserves off the Bering straight in some joint partnership and they get access to Ukraine rare earth materials.
Trump is also lifting aerospace sanctions so Russians can import plane parts or sell jets.
That's a pretty sweet deal where effectively Alaska starts trading directly with Russia as there's only a 3mile seperation between them.

>>513043647 (OP)
>how fucked is zelenskyy tomorrow?
he'll be fine. those two fucks only kids

>>513051044
that is correct. but putin should just use few nukes and end the war long time ago.

>>513043647 (OP)
Not as much as the cope-posters here want. Tomorrow will be optics only — handshake photo op with Putin to make ‘negotiations’ look possible. NATO won’t pull funding this quarter. Zelensky survives this round, maybe replaced by spring if the counteroffensive flop hits winter morale. Screenshot this.

>>513043647 (OP)
It's oyveyr

>>513051044
Nearly choked on my baked hamster reading this.

>>513052001
How many times did russians believe that shit in the last 100 years only for it to get worse.
In 5-10 years you'll be nothing but a chinese vasal.

>>513051950

The war has been pretty quiet for months. The front is going nowhere. So I don't think that many are dying at the moment. That's a Bakhmut tier body count, and that kind of fighting is not going on.

>>513043647 (OP)

American food and Russian glide bombs will kill all the retard Hohol prostitutes.

>>513047616
>You people are delusional.
Why is it always the most delusional people who say that? It can't (and shouldn't) go on forever. Might as well end it tomorrow.

>>513043647 (OP)
The only thing any of these people "fuck" are children.

>>513047178
That’s what many Americans actually want.

He's not. US just wants to pretend to be out of it so they can organize a ceasefire if Russia finally, finally decides to give suicidal EU what it wants and starts launching nukes. Zelensky's terrorists attacks are going to get much worse. And Trump will be like "I tried to help. I tried to warn the Russians. Now the nuclear fallout and/or biological attack is spreading quickly throughout Russia. I didn't want this. I want the killing to stop. I really do." Guy is a closet homo.

>>513043647 (OP)
This is going to be just another nothingburger. Trump will just keep on waffling and doing nothing, babbling about new sanctions in two weeks after two weeks after two weeks, while USA keeps selling weapons to Europe (and Europe in turn gives those said weapons to ukraine to kill russians).

>>513045065
>with russia choosing not to exercise their full might.
So Russia could just win this war anytime they want, but Putin just chooses not to?

Serious question: are you completely braindead?

>>513052931
>the futbol