Thread 513068112

Well /pol, what do you do when an individual of a despised group does something you can't help but appreciate as quality?

Case in point, this song, which I know you all enjoy:

https://youtu.be/AIOAlaACuv4?si=sfXv0mVVvuqobBj-

What system would be better at praising and raising individuals that have merit than the one we have now?

I don't like that song

>>513068112 (OP)
>Tracy Chapman's Greatest Hits
>Fast car
>Fast car
>Fast car
>AND HER NUMBER ONE HIT SINGLE
>Fast car

>>513068173
FUCK!
TND, I guess

>>513068112 (OP)
Lauryn Hill is 9000x better

>>513068207
There are actually a couple of other bangers on that album

>>513068260
Lauryn Hill has done nothing I want to listen to

>>513068378
Shes the best female lyricist of her generation maybe all time.
Shes a bitch but she knows how yo make music.

>>513068528
while I disagree with you (I don't like hip hop), I wonder why you're not answering the second question in my post...?

>>513068651
Do you want an offical board of talent that judges the merit?
Then you have american idol.
People are too dumb to even understand technique or skill/talent.

>>513069128
I'm talking about political systems and talent in general. If individuals -- not groups -- are the ones with merit, then how best to recognize and reward that merit? Is it not liberalism, which puts the individual above the group?

For me, it's Scott Joplin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxk9qwCFf8s&t=8

>>513069336
I think some kind of natural sense of morals is necessary to even be a judge of merit.
Meritocracy has only worked in waves or just might makes right.

>>513069359
So you agree that individuals -- irregardless of what group they belong to -- should be rewarded for their merit?

>>513069521
But you agree that individuals should be judged on their merit, not based on the actions of some group they belong to? You realize all the arguments for racism on this board are about generalizations, rather than the actions/merit of individuals?

>>513069583
They should be rewarded by their group and keep to themselves. I don't think we should have cities this big, or emperors so far away dictating what I should or shouldn't do. I answer to my father and my local community Priest. People within my fists reach. If I have a grievance with them, I can punch in the face. Inb4 you wouln't do nothing. Doesn't matter, there's something primal about being within arms reach of a roided monkey. If the guys still cons me, well, he has balls, which current "leaders" don't have. And we work for our local guilds instead of some faceless berg corporation. Again, all within arms reach. There's this guy at Church who plays violin nicely. I have a liberal aunty who bakes good pies. I don't think there's a need for some globalism to have me even know or hear about Scott Joplin and recognize his talent. The old lady at Church plays the piano good enough to me, I can recognize that. I don't need more.

>>513068112 (OP)
I liked some Adam Sandler movies, and since he only has daughters I assume he hasn't mutilated their genitals, but I also don't have any reason to think he wouldn't still participate in and even promote the practices of the blood cult he was born into, so it would be irresponsible to just let him run around. Extend this outlook to whatever level of triviality you're looking for, no offense to Tracy Chapman.

>>513068112 (OP)
>which I know you all enjoy
I do not enjoy this song.

>>513070337
Sounds like you favour a law to ban circumcision. Seems like a reasonable argument could be made, and people won over. The only problem would be if a group of people opposed to the ban for irrational reasons had captured the votes of your representatives.

>>513068207
>HER
I honestly thought it was a dude this entire time

>>513070646
>i can always tell

>>513070646
Thought the same thing the first few times I heard Fast Car, not sure if it's the low range or just a racial thing. Nice voice either way.

>>513068112 (OP)
I like later Miles Davis' and Charles Mingus' music
doesn't mean I have to like the dudes
I also like older Metallica despite them being used up douches
or Death, despite Chuck Schuldiner being a homosexual jew

>>513068207
Give Me One Reason has been a beloved song to me ever since I was little. Too bad the music video is so terrible.

>>513070551
Not sure if chatbot or subtle joke.
More to the point, I have absolutely no faith in existing systems of law to usefully separate the "despised group" 's individuals from the conditions which caused them to be despised, as those systems have been totally impotent thus far. An individual must separate themselves from the group when the group cannot change its ways if they wish to be treated as a separate individual. Small tokens of contribution to culture or science, however much I like them personally, are not reasons to become careless about causes of agony and disaster.

>>513069583
Yeah sure, but the reward system should be organic. There will never be a perfect meritocracy but deliberately trying to "correct" a flawed meritocracy will just make it far less merit based, which is what DEI and similar measures have done. That's demonstrably the logical conclusion of liberalism/anti-racism in a multicultural society. Once again, there can never be a true meritocracy because the people in charge of hiring and promoting people will always have both personal and collective preferences, but you can maximize merit by ensuring that representatives of the majority population are in charge, as they are less likely to show preference to their in-group compared to a smaller minority.

>>513071866
Hopefully I'm not a chatbot.
>>513071625
Good song
>>513071343
I don't care whether you like them, I a curious about what system allows those with talent to rise to the top. Hitler had something to say about this, namely that the Catholic church had defeated nepotism by demanding priests be celibate

>>513072233
rising to the top has little to do with talents
it's mostly about pleasing a jew
most often on all fours
so there's a lot of clean up to do if you want to fix that

>>513072383
It's the thing most worth fixing as far as I can tell
>>513072230
I thought DEI was cultural marxism, not liberalism though

>>513069757
Of course. I am white.

>>513072902
Meritocracy is part of the white identity. Interesting proposition. Can you defend this further?

>>513068112 (OP)
unlike you i never heard of this nigger bitch
it comes down to muh nigger musician exist so you have to tolerate them
muh poojeet food exists so you have to accept them
we can survive without nigger music is not an important aspect of our lives
music is just entertainment so i rather give my money to a local musician than to a nigger
I prefer our local popular music
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FzOHbtfbQF8&pp=ygUdYW5jdXRhIG1paGFsaSBzaSBpb251dCB0cmlmb2k%3D

>>513068528
I don’t like her voice. And if you listen to the lyrics of that song, it’s a bullshit song about a bunch of illegal immigtants who drink drive in America, work illegally, neglect their children and then get divorced and carry on the cycle. Its lyrics are dog shit.

Y'all Cowards Don't Even Smoke Crack

>>513068112 (OP)
NIGGER
TALENTLESS FORGOTTEN NIGGER

>>513068265
what I HATE WHITE MEN !?
niggers are shit

>>513068528
all GCD songs
zero complexity
zero catchiness
totall nigger failure

>>513069359
>a nigger makes other niggers dance
ok bro who cares

>>513071343
ENTARTE MUSIK
lmfao nigger noises

>>513068112 (OP)
>bowl of m and ms
>99/100 are actually just spray-painted dog turds
>but there’s one real one so you have to judge them all on their merits, stop generalizing you chud!

>>513073962
View this from the opposite perspective... there's one jewel amongst a handful of dirt. Do you keep the jewel or throw out everything?