Thread 513086513

The superposition of the evil immigrant

The real issue is that the workers there are underpaid, unemployed and unable to receive aid.

>>513086513 (OP)
>rape murders your daughter in a field with a corncob up her ass

>>513086513 (OP)
Here you go nigger.

employers hire illegals because they can pay them less, driving down wages for everyone else. meanwhile they live 5 per studio apartment causing living costs to skyrocket.
ALL illegals should be rounded up.

>>513086513 (OP)

This is actually true. Here's how they do it; Husband, wife and 2 kids illegally enter the country. The man get's a job almost immediately working on a construction site making $20/hr. Woman goes to welfare office claims single mother since the marriage was not recorded in the U.S.--immediately gets foodstamp benefits of $900/mo, put on Section 8 waiting list and given free government health insurance. Woman send kids to public schools, where they are entitled to free lunches and gets a job working as a maid at a hotel where she's allowed to earn up to $700/week before iher welfare benefits begin to phase out. NOW, they have two incomes; husband and wife's, PLUS all of the government freebies.

>>513086732
would love to see them make a figure of each of these individual groupings with racial stratification. those figures would be conversation enders

>>513086513 (OP)
Welfare is more than food stamps, it's preferential treatment in general and handouts through the system. If "DEI" followed it's own guidelines, each race of immigrant coming into countries would be equal but they aren't, only non-whites are given preferential treatment. That said, I don't care if they're white or non-white because immigration itself is a scam to game congressional apportionment and gerrymander with impunity.

[spoiler]They can do both, at once.[/spoiler]

welfare comes in many forms, and is used as a catch all phrase when discussing illegals, to include things like medicaid used to flood the hospitals, not just social security benefits or some exacting 'welfare', but they also get all sorts of illegal payouts from liberal governments like pre-paid cards for expenses, at the expense of the state and federal gov

and yes simultaneously they can hold a job, or pretend to
you're playing at a child's level of word play, but the reality on the ground is, they are lazy thieves, even when they hold a job, they are stealing everyone's time and money with subpar employment

>>513086513 (OP)
That's exactly what is happening though. They get brought in and have their entire life subsidized by government so that private companies can pay them peanuts. They collect welfare, they take jobs, and suppress wages.

>>513087307
What is the practical difference with a citizen?

>>513086513 (OP)
Is there some reason they wouldn't be taking welfare while working?

>>513086513 (OP)
Palm Jumeirah, you'll find me there. It resonates with the name i've been called my whole life, must be destiny.

>>513087347
Illegals will accept worse wages and working conditions thus affecting the entire economy damaging workers and benefitting business owners.

>>513086513 (OP)
>works an under-the-table job
>has no reported income so he also collects welfare
I’m not seeing the contradiction

>>513086513 (OP)
There is more than one immigrant. Some immigrants take jobs. Some immigrants collect welfare. There's no contradiction there no matter how much liberals want to pretend there is.

>>513087347
Citizens don't get subsidies like illegals do, and they don't have a country to go back to where life is cheap. Population is in decline and the beast needs to eat, so they import the third world, subsidize them with funnymoney so they can reproduce and go to work for serf wages perpetuating the system that is continually redistributing wealth from the bottom mass of people to the ones on top.

Has anyone tried to buy a used car lately? Apparently ONLY car dealerships and ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS sell used cars anymore. And it's NEVER their name on the title. The guy selling barely speaks English but the name on the title is like David Jones. EVERY SINGLE TIME. I've bought 3 cars used in the past 5 years. All 3 from Illegals. I tried not to, but you can't find private sellers who are American anymore. Also, when was the last time you went ANYWHERE and saw white people working? I live in a majority white neighborhood but you go in to any corporate restaurant, grocery store, gas station, wal-mart, dollar tree, not one white person working in the entire store. On the rare occasion you DO see a white person working in the store it's some welfare queen white woman who clearly has a meth problem and talks like a black person or speaks fluent spanish.

>>513086513 (OP)
They do both, claim welfare and work illegally for under the table cash

>>513087695
I have no fucking clue why, having a constitutional right to wellfare.

The only way the illegals get more benefits with no legal id, no green card no bank account no visa no mastercard not being able to walk into a government office and said their name

Is that you illegally take fiscal money and give it to them under the bridge

>>513086513 (OP)
>takes your job because he is cheap labor
>takes the welfare because his cheap labor doesn't afford a living
>you get stuck funding his welfare and competing for supressed wages
>hurr durr why am I persecuted so
I hope more of you die on the way out.

>>513086513 (OP)
>flag
you fucking middle-asian ugly mongol
shut up
you heat up your house with cow shit in winter

>>513087809
yeah I tried to buy a new Toyota a few years back and it's all spics at every Toyota dealership. One of them kept leaving messages hoping for a call back and the fucker could barely speak comprehendible English. Why would I want to deal with *that* fucker? They wouldn't give me an inch on price, wouldn't even give MSRP and told me a bunch of lies about one of the SUV I was interested in, like its cargo space. They also wouldn't let me have my own mechanic check out a used RAV4 I was interested in.
Finally just bought a car at Carvana *shrug*. They are real pieces of shit

>>513086513 (OP)
They drive down blue collar wages. Deport em all.
Also there's a whole tiktok channel devoted to shitty beaner construction jobs. They're cheap for a reason.

>>513086513 (OP)
Sure, there is only one male immigrant its not a bunch of men taking the jobs and a bunch of women collecting the welfare.

>>513088154
I have no idea what constitutional right you are talking about.

The point of welfare as it has been weaponized is to keep people powerless. That's why you have to be poor to get it. Money is a proxy for power. The government would be happy to subsidize a citizen for their entire life as long as they remain poor, because then they are powerless to do anything. Immigrants receive welfare because life in the United States is expensive, but it serves the same purpose. There is also the added bonus that they will actually create more slaves for the plantation, unlike the natives, so welfare is handed out like candy to any one of them that will come here.

Once they are integrated into the system, they can be used to suppress wages, because now that there are 20 million other people to compete with who will work for next to nothing citizens have to content themselves with working for the same wage. This drives them towards powerlessness as well. Then, you can take your serfs and pay them peanuts to build housing, which is bought up by the lords and ladies of the land to be sold back to the pesky bourgeoisie, who, recall, must now content themselves with working for those same peanuts, for $1,000,000 or whatever, thus stripping away any remaining generational wealth from them (as they simply can't afford it with the money they are actually making) and giving it straight to the nobility. In the end we will all be serfs once again.

>>513089119
>That's why you have to be poor to get it
No, most welfare is corporate welfare that goes to the top 1% of corporate persons, the bank bailouts were more than all the previous human welfare in the history of the country.

>>513086513 (OP)
Is it perhaps possible that there's enough immigrants to do both of these?

>>513089442
You think the SNAP and housing subsidies and free medical care and cash benefits they throw at illegals and poors aren't just subsidies for corporations too? That's the whole point of what I said. The lords and ladies don't have to pay them anything because they already have their bread rations.

>>513089119
Your rigth to wellfare, am not a burger man I didn't went to your fancy school with metal detectors but I know somewhere between the original documents the amendments and the bill of rights the founding fathers gave you wellfare

>>513089610
So you were wrong the welfare only goes to the richest in the end, they only give poor people enough to pay rich people for the privilege of living and welfare is only to prop the corps up since the richest people own all the corps and politicians and design it so all the money, even the welfare, mostly flows to themselves.

>>513086513 (OP)
10 million in 4 years entered illegally how is this even a debate that's 1 in 36 people just in the last 4 years or essentially the entire population of Sweden if your brain is having a hard time picturing it

>>513089712
You're just being a smart ass, Anon.

>>513086513 (OP)
>The superposition of the evil immigrant
You realize that immigrants aren't just one perosn, right? Different groups of immigrants can be responsible for each problem. There's no contradiction.

>>513086672
Haa, that'll show em
You voted for this kernel

>>513089848
No, the vast majority of welfare goes to the top corps and to tax cuts for the richest businessmen and always has, you are just coping by trying to blame poor wage slaves.

>>513089972
They don't even know is on their bill of rights anon

How?

>>513086513 (OP)
>work under the table while collecting welfare
OP you are severely mentally retarded.
also a faggot

>>513086513 (OP)
They take all the low-paying jobs and the surplus of workers brings wages down. Those who could have worked in low paying jobs are pushed out by migrants. Then they are competing for slightly better jobs, and now that those slightly better paying jobs have many more people available than usual, THEY got brought down to minimum wage because desperate people will accept that and lower the market rate. All other jobs higher up the tier also see the effects of their wages getting lowered because of the surplus of workers accepting less just to get the job.
This is exactly what they want to happen.

>>513086513 (OP)
>migrants are one person

>>513089972
You're just a butthurt commie or something then? Nigga I just made like what, four or five posts about how welfare is there to keep people powerless and benefit the nobility (Here, I'll even throw you a bone: To benefit the Capitalists. There, feel better?) and you're gonna get all booty blasted and tell me actually I'm wrong because what, I didn't use the term "Labor" enough and "poor" is a trigger word for you? Sperg.

>>513086513 (OP)
it's both? obviously some do collect welfare benefits, especially from the state level in places like California
and they also suppress wages for American workers
your own Bernie Sanders used to admit this until the DNC told him to knock it off

>>513086513 (OP)
Is it possible for there to be so many immigrants that they can typically be lazy and also flood the job market?
Yea? stfu.

>>513090159
No, its not to benefit capitalists, fiat is not capital, its to make sure the inner circle associated with the particular banks and corps get to maintain their stranglehold on power using fiat to subvert capital, its tribalism/factionalism subverting capitalism.

>>513089671
>I know somewhere between the original documents the amendments and the bill of rights the founding fathers gave you wellfare
No.