Thread 513101585

The number one thing you can do to improve your odds of surviving WW3 is planting a garden. TPTB are already moving to restrict your ability to gather calories with bans on going into the woods to forage, fish or hunt, restrictions on fertilizer usage and gardening as a whole (Remember when they banned the sale of gardening supplies during COVID?). If you cannot supplement your calories, you will be starved into joining the military.

>>513101585 (OP)
It's the end of the summer, you're 5 months late with this thread.
It's harvest time now

>>513101715
Many things are planted in the fall and it is almost springtime in the southern hemisphere.

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Also i farted

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>>513101795
>Many things are planted in the fall
Name a few without Googling. I can bet my life on the fact that you haven't worked not a day, a minute in a garden

>>513101715
we're 2 months away from blackthorn harvest, nigger

>>513101913
A lot of plant bulbs (like onions) are planted in the fall, but I mostly focus on perennial fruit trees/shrubs/vines which are also often planted in the fall.

>>513102374
I'm not a farmer and this is just a fun fact, but I heard there is this grass you can plant in the fall that will simply die when it gets cold. But it's good to do because it brings nutrients up and then deposits them near the top when it dies. Forget what it's called though.

>>513102952
I would rather just plant clovers. They enrich the nitrogen in the soil, aren't so tall as to need mowing, provide lots of food for the bees, smell great, look great and are considered good luck.

>>513101715
Tell me you don't grow anything without telling me you don't grow anything

>>513103333
I know his attitude makes it really tempting to mock him, but the goal is to get more people growing food so I'd rather just share the information he's lacking so that he makes fewer incorrect assumptions in the future. It's about saving lives.

>>513103333
Satanic quads for the farmer, don't listen to the false farmer prophets, forage like our hunter gatherer ancestors did

>>513104096
Or do both

t. 7 lbs of homegrown elderberries for mead in my freezer

>>513101585 (OP)
It's fine, I'll just eat my neighbours.

>>513104282
>Elderberry mead
Sounds fucking amazing. Bet you it does wonders when you feel a cold coming on.

>>513101585 (OP)
honestly it's why I'm growing weed now. I want to have a big stockpile of marajoowanna to trade.
I will have hundreds of pounds stockpiled by the time of collapse, one germinating seed at a time

>>513104394
Your mother was a hamster

>>513101585 (OP)
>Remember when they banned the sale of gardening supplies during COVID?
No. When and where did that happen? Did "they" ever lift that ban?

>>513104404
Weed does degrade over time.
I'd be growing some as well if not for the ban on growing it in my province. You can only buy it at the government owned weed store, just like how you can only buy liquor from the government owned liquor store.

>>513104433
Here's some cursed knowledge for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humster

>>513104459
>when [...] did that happen
During COVID. You literally copy-pasted the fucking answer.

>>513104528
I'm sorry to hear that, Leaf. My state just has a smell regulation (you can grow what you want for personal use as long as your neighbors don't start bitching that it reeks).
>>513104579
>hasn't seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail
You sure you're white?

>>513104642
Yes, I got the reference, Anon.
Ni ni ni ni ni

>>513101585 (OP)
reminder,permaculture is what liberal faggots call a forest

>>513101585 (OP)
Get your local council worker to dump free chipped trees in your yard. 1-2 trucks is enough for a decent full size 10 foot long hugelkultur.
As the chips are still green, they will compost in only a handful of weeks if you water the pile.
Thermophilic funghi will convert the whole pile into the most rich instant soil you can get. Inoculate with edible mushrooms in cold months if you want a hilariously large mushroom harvest.

>>513104910
No, permaculture is a design philosophy for creating biomes. In many places, it wouldn't look like a forest at all.

>>513104910
You're out of your element jeet, stick to what you know like street shitting

>>513104958
I've mostly heard of people doing hugelkultur with logs that were buried in soil, but that works, too.
If you live in a noisy area (like near a road), you can make a bunch of ridges parallel to the road that will reflect a bunch of the noise upwards.

>>513104958
>As the chips are still green, they will compost in only a handful of weeks if you water the pile.
Absolutely not true. Fresh wood chips take ages to break down, especially if you're not turning it and adding nitrogen to the pile (piss)

>>513104629
I guess the question is WHERE did that happen? I never had any problems gardening or buying supplies.

>>513105368
I know for a fact it happened in Ontario because I was personally affected by it.

>>513105105
I've done it with logs too, but it's at best awkward and at worst just a rat's nest.
You need straight logs to reduce voids in the mound. You also want the mound to "reduce" uniformly so you don't wind up with wet/dry patches.
They're amazing if you have nice, uniform logs like in scandinavia.
But wood chips do 60% of the job in 5% of the time and effort. If I had a bunch of straight trees and a backhoe, I would prefer hugelkultur proper.

>>513105430
You could probably get good results with a max of the two, letting chips fill in gaps.
I expect the roots of whatever you grow on there would help stabilize the whole thing.

>>513105413
>in Ontario
Sucks to live in Leafistan I guess. Do you have a link to whatever law banned gardening supplies? Did they ever repeal the law ever?

>>513105557
mix* of the two

>>513105269
This isn't a compost bin for women, fresh wood chip piles regularly burst into flames due to thermophilic bacterial and fungal decomposition. The fastest I have done is 4 weeks from cutting down the tree to cold soil. That was with turning, to be fair.
My current pile is 8 weeks old and stopped steaming two days ago. No turning, no nitrogen. Only water. It's all soil, now.
There's no need for additional "piss" because council chipped trees are wet and are 80% branches and leaves.

>>513105745
With any luck that'll be 20% Epstein clients soon.

>>513105607
Can you cite the law or provide a news source about Ontario banning gardening supplies? Google search is only giving me stories from a 2009 ban on certain pesticides.

>>513106283
I don't care. You're not here to discuss the topic anyway. You're only here to be disruptive.

>>513106379
>You're not here to discuss the topic anyway.
I would counter by saying that if you're just going to make shit up you're not really here to discuss this in good faith.
Did all the feed and sneed stores go out of business when this ban happened or did they fly under the radar changing their name back to Chuck's?

>>513106618
Your entire argument relies on gaslighting people about things they experienced themselves and you pretend it's everyone else who is acting in bad faith. There is no word in a human tongue to describe how pathetic a creature you have allowed yourself to become.

>>513104282
You don't make alcohol from berries.
Haven't you fags learned how to make proper alcohol by now?
It's plums or pears, berries taste like absolute shit as alcoholic drinks
>>513102374
Yeah you plant trees yearly
"every autumn I just plant trees xd haha I'm a farmer"
Nigga if I ask you to bring me a spade you're coming with a screwdriver

>>513106748
>It was real in my mind!
OK, so you cannot prove that ever happened but I should live in fear that this will happen to me?
Post pics with timestamp of some of your food supplies that you've harvested off your land.

>>513107344
I don't have to prove shit, you pathetic, disingenuous shill. People remember the aisles of stores being taped off and items not scanning if you brought them to the self-checkout. Or maybe you never touched any of the "forbidden" items like exercise equipment or gardening tools because you are the "ideal" slave TPTB so desperately crave. So eager to defend your master.

>>513107305
Skill issue

One of my bean poles grew too close to sun and fell over :(

>>513107305
>>513107619
... You mean like grapes?

>I have never made but one prayer to God, a very short one: Oh Lord, make my enemies ridiculous.
>And God granted it

>>513107545
>I don't have to prove shit,
But you totally have some giant subsistence farm and your dad works at Nintendo, right?
>"forbidden" items like exercise equipment or gardening tools
So all of that was banned too? Are you stacking shithouse paper or do you just use your hands?

>>513108170
I haven't claimed to have a giant subsistence farm. I have very little room and I try to maximize what I get out of it. In the future, I hope to get a nice plot of land where I can really get a respectable collection of plants going. It doesn't take a lot of time or money to get going and see the benefit. If you really don't have any delayed gratification, start with something like microgreens. The harvest time is measured in days and you can do it in your bedroom if absolutely necessary.

>>513105745
Does Australia have different trees? I have a giant pile of a dumped chopped tree that is still wood chips 2 years on


Here’s a tip for Americans you can use the website chipdrop to get truckloads for free mine usually come in a couple days

>>513108378
>I hope to get a nice plot of land where I can really get a respectable collection of plants going.
Have you tried spending 12 hours a day on 4chan posting this thread? That's how I saved up the money to buy my land.

>>513108600
As opposed to deliberately going into threads you don't like and whining like a little bitch? If that's your job, then I'm objectively more productive than you are.

>>513108481
>use the website chipdrop
Signing up, but I doubt I'll get any action. I live too close to paper mills I think.

>>513108736
>As opposed to deliberately going into threads you don't like
What I don't like is people making shit up. The topic seems like it could be interesting and I'll see if I can get a dump truck load of free wood chips or mulch from that website the other anon just mentioned.

>>513109330
>What I don't like is people making shit up
Except that it actually happened, so all you're doing is gaslighting people. But I suppose that could explain why you hate yourself.

>>513109416
>Except that it actually happened,
Yes, it was real in your mind, the timeline shifted, and all of the evidence got taken off of the internet so you're the only one who remembers.

>>513101585 (OP)
while you faggots have been posting about permaculture, ive been harvesting my black eyed peas. anyway, back to work for me, i have to pick tomatoes and then make pepper jelly

>>513109663
Except it gets discussed in every single one of these threads because people do remember it. It was one of the many lockdown policies we revolted against.

>>513101585 (OP)
As if you get any say, if you survive ww3 or don't.
By the time ww3 starts, AI will be issuing kill lists with all expandables, their photos, habits, places they could be found at and their combat ability.
And starlink satelite will just beam a bright red laser at your immediate location, visible from miles away.
Military will enter your house and Alexa will just go like "He is in a panic room behind the bookcase in the bedroom upstairs. The code is 93747. He also has a little tomato garden in the back, help yourselves".

>>513110629
Learned helplessness.

>>513110029
>Except it gets discussed in every single one of these threads
Sorry, I guess I'm spending too much time IRL actually doing shit to read these threads for hours and learn what's happening in the real world.
>one of the many lockdown policies
I saw some faggots wearing bandannas around their faces for a couple years but nobody ever locked me or anybody I know down.
Get off the fucking internet, nigger and make some of this shit happen if you want to do it.

>>513110629
thats the whole point of this data mining glownigger spam thread. permaculture requires tons of modernization to be successful. i just stick with doing it like the ancient cultures did it, i.e. put seed in dirt and water it

>>513113695
>permaculture requires tons of modernization to be successful
Like what?
It's mostly just companion planting.

>>513101585 (OP)
planted my seed in your mom, it's permaculture

>>513113828
you have to buy a wood chipper and haul all kinds of compost and buy all kinds of fancy microbes because thats how mother earth does it. i just make rows and puts seeds and water instead of all that crap

>>513114362
You don't *need* any of that fancy equipment. The only thing you really need is a shovel.

Do you think Varg is doing his permaculture in the correct way? I wish hed show more of that instead of posting retarded shit.

>>513114465
I don't watch his stuff, so I have no clue what he's doing.

>>513113828
Nigger, get off the fucking internet. Get a job, buy land, buy tools, plant something, build something raise some critters then come back and post pics with timestamp.

>>513114777
digits checked. be careful anon, this is a data mining thread. they can zoom up on the serial numbers and dox you

>>513116192
The only data I am mining is plant recommendations for my hardiness zone. >>513114777
You can't pretend that you are encouraging people to grow food while also trying to disrupt a thread about doing exactly that. You are a disingenuous cunt and you have done more than enough to prove such.