trump-putin meeting plotted to fail, document leaked from insider - /pol/ (#513140180) [Archived: 34 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:22:23 PM No.513140180
Villa Madama
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>Rome Summit, October 15, 2025
Overview
This document outlines the diplomatic summit in Rome on October 15, 2025, to negotiate a ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict, following the failed Trump-Putin meeting in Alaska on August 15, 2025, which began at 11:00 AKDT (21:00 CEST). It details the logistics, security arrangements, accommodations, entertainment, the role of Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni, and military collaboration.
>Date and Location
Date: October 15, 2025
Primary Location: Palazzo del Quirinale, Rome (official talks)
Secondary Location: Roma Convention Center La Nuvola (multilateral sessions)
Rationale: The Quirinale provides a secure, prestigious venue for state-level talks, while La Nuvola accommodates larger delegations and media with advanced facilities.
>Participants
Core Leaders:
Donald Trump (U.S. President)
Vladimir Putin (Russian President)
Volodymyr Zelensky (Ukrainian President)
European Leaders:
Giorgia Meloni (Italian Prime Minister, host)
Emmanuel Macron (French President)
Friedrich Merz (German Chancellor)
Keir Starmer (UK Prime Minister)
Ursula von der Leyen (European Commission President)
Additional Attendees:
Mark Rutte (NATO Secretary General, observer)
Antonio Costa (European Council President)
Objective: Negotiate a ceasefire in Ukraine, ensuring the inclusion of Ukraine and European allies.
>Security Arrangements
Air Escorts
Putin’s Aircraft (Ilyushin Il-96):
Two Eurofighter Typhoons from Grosseto Air Base escort from Italian airspace entry to Pratica di Mare Air Base. Typhoons provide Mach 2+ speed and CAPTOR radar, with KC-767A tankers for extended range.
Bilateral AMI-Russian VKS coordination ensures secure communication channels.
Trump’s Aircraft (Boeing VC-25):
Two Eurofighter Typhoons escort to Ciampino Air Base, with U.S. F-35As from Aviano providing support.
Other Leaders:
Typhoons escort Zelensky, Macron, and others to Ciampino, with coordination for European air forces.
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Anonymous ID: QY1f72AjUnited States
8/15/2025, 10:23:09 PM No.513140248
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Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:24:12 PM No.513140336
Golf Acquasanta
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>>513140180 (OP)
>Accommodations
Putin: Location: Villa Madama, Monte Mario, Rome.
Details: Renaissance villa with private gardens, security systems, anti-spy measures, and Russian-speaking staff. Capacity for 50-person delegation.
Trump: Location: Palazzo Margherita (U.S. Embassy, Via Veneto).
Details: Presidential suite, bunker, secure communications, managed by U.S. Secret Service with AMI support. Capacity for 100-person staff.
Other Leaders: Zelensky: Hotel de Russie (armored suite).
Macron, Merz, von der Leyen, others: Hotel Excelsior and Palazzo Doria Pamphilj, with capacity for 20-30 per delegation.
>Entertainment
Trump: Golf at Circolo Golf Roma Acquasanta (18-hole course, 15 km from Rome).
Putin: Tchaikovsky concert at Teatro dell’Opera di Roma (1,600 seats).
Joint: Cultural evening at Villa Borghese with art exhibits and live music, accommodating 200 guests.
Role of Giorgia MeloniHost and Mediator: Meloni welcomes leaders at the Quirinale, moderates discussions, and facilitates U.S.-Europe alignment while ensuring Zelensky’s inclusion.
Diplomacy: Conducts bilateral talks with Trump on trade and NATO, and with Zelensky on Italian aid, coordinating with von der Leyen and Macron for EU unity.
>Military Collaboration (U.S.-Italy-Russia)
Purpose: Secure the summit without geopolitical tensions.
Details: U.S.-Italy: Secret Service and AMI coordinate air (Typhoon/F-35) and ground (motorcade) security, with U.S. bases (Aviano, Sigonella) providing drones.
Italy-Russia: AMI and Russian VKS share air escort protocols for Putin’s Il-96. AISI and FSB collaborate on cybersecurity and anti-terrorism.
Trilateral: Pre-summit technical meetings establish airspace and engagement rules, with Italy as the facilitator.
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Anonymous ID: vWpwN/epGreece
8/15/2025, 10:24:18 PM No.513140354
I believe it.
Anonymous ID: rz7RpNN/Italy
8/15/2025, 10:25:40 PM No.513140483
>>513140180 (OP)
i'm believing it
Anonymous ID: 1rsMkOLKUnited States
8/15/2025, 10:27:55 PM No.513140666
I'm also believing it
Anonymous ID: EOYmtd4hSlovenia
8/15/2025, 10:28:25 PM No.513140718
>>513140248
Shalom
Anonymous ID: jpIubXAPUnited States
8/15/2025, 10:29:11 PM No.513140801
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>>513140180 (OP)
BGC is also invited, he will be the host of the event
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Anonymous ID: gVTN/T0FBosnia and Herzegovina
8/15/2025, 10:31:33 PM No.513140984
>>513140336
>Zelensky: Hotel de Russie (armored suite)
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Anonymous ID: X7RC6uGfFrance
8/15/2025, 10:32:02 PM No.513141018
>>513140180 (OP)
Why not add Xi if you want to go full retard?
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Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:35:52 PM No.513141335
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>>513140180 (OP)
U.S. President Donald Trump initially proposed a summit in Rome to negotiate a ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict, intended to include Russian President Vladimir Putin, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, and European leaders, hosted by Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni. The proposal was rejected, leading to the summit being relocated to Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage, Alaska, on August 15, 2025, starting at 11:00 AKDT (21:00 CEST). The Rome proposal’s failure was directly tied to Rome’s perceived pro-Ukraine role, which Russia viewed as compromising Italy’s neutrality.
>The Rome Proposal
Trump’s proposed Rome summit aimed to secure an immediate 30-day ceasefire across the Ukraine frontline, halting missile, drone, and bomb attacks, including in the Black Sea.
>The agenda included:
Humanitarian Measures: Prisoner exchanges, release of civilian detainees, and return of forcibly transferred Ukrainian children.
Monitoring: A neutral third-party mechanism, led by the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE), to verify compliance without Western peacekeepers.
>Reason for Failure:
Rome’s Pro-Ukraine RoleThe proposal collapsed due to Russia’s rejection, driven by Italy’s alignment with Ukraine, which undermined its neutrality as a mediator. Key reasons include:Italy’s NATO Membership and Military Support: Italy’s active role in NATO and its provision of military aid to Ukraine, including SAMP/T air defense systems, positioned it as a staunch supporter of Kyiv. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated that Italy’s NATO commitments made it an unacceptable venue for neutral talks.
Meloni’s Pro-Ukraine Diplomacy: Giorgia Meloni’s public support for Ukraine’s territorial integrity and her coordination with Zelensky and EU leaders (Macron, von der Leyen) signaled bias to Moscow. Her refusal to consider Russian demands, such as recognizing annexed territories, clashed with Kremlin preconditions.
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Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:40:04 PM No.513141641
>>513141018
Xi Jinping declined to attend the Rome Summit due to China’s deliberate policy of non-involvement in the Ukraine conflict, which positioned it as extraneous to direct negotiations. Specific reasons include:
>Neutral Stance:
China has maintained a neutral position in the Ukraine conflict, avoiding direct military or political involvement. Xi’s administration has consistently emphasized non-interference, focusing instead on economic partnerships with both Russia and Ukraine. A Chinese Foreign Ministry statement on March 10, 2025, reiterated that Beijing would not participate in Western-led peace initiatives to preserve its impartiality.
>Strategic Distance:
Xi viewed the Rome Summit, hosted by NATO-member Italy and involving U.S. and European leaders, as a Western-centric initiative. Participation risked aligning China with one side, undermining its strategic autonomy and relations with Russia, a key partner in energy and trade.
>Focus on Bilateral Channels:
China prefers bilateral diplomacy with Russia and indirect mediation through forums like BRICS or the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, rather than engaging in a multilateral summit led by Western powers. Xi’s refusal reflected a desire to avoid entanglement in a conflict where China has no direct stakes.
>Geopolitical Priorities:
Xi prioritized domestic and regional issues, such as economic stabilization and tensions in the South China Sea, over involvement in a European conflict. Attending the summit would have diverted resources from China’s core strategic interests without clear benefits.
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Anonymous ID: 2IsUyCypUnited States
8/15/2025, 10:42:22 PM No.513141825
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>>513140180 (OP)
>>513140801
HE COMES
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Anonymous ID: rz7RpNN/Italy
8/15/2025, 10:43:12 PM No.513141890
>>513141641
>>513141335
>>513140336
>>513140180 (OP)
at least ask chatgpt to make it more believable and less clunky
Anonymous ID: jpIubXAPUnited States
8/15/2025, 10:44:01 PM No.513141965
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>>513141825
>HE COMES
BGC leaving the event with trump and putins girls
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:44:08 PM No.513141971
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>>513140984
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:46:37 PM No.513142185
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>>513140336
>Teatro dell’Opera di Roma
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:48:13 PM No.513142331
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>>513140180 (OP)
>Eurofighter Typhoons
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:49:15 PM No.513142402
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>>513140180 (OP)
>KC-767A
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:51:09 PM No.513142573
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>>513140336
>Villa Borghese
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:56:43 PM No.513143082
giulia quadrifoglio
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>>513140336
>Motorcade
Putin:
Primary Vehicle: Maserati Quattroporte (VR9 armored), equipped with ballistic protection and anti-jamming systems.
Escort: Eight Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio (510 HP, armored), two Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio SUVs, and BMW R 1250 RT motorcycles, managed by Polizia di Stato. NOCS units and AgustaWestland AW139 helicopters provide additional security.
Trump:
Primary Vehicle: U.S. “The Beast” (Cadillac, VR10 armored), with a Maserati Levante (armored) for courtesy.
Escort: Six Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio, two Alfa Romeo Stelvio Quadrifoglio, and U.S. Secret Service SUVs.
Other Leaders:
Maserati Quattroporte and Alfa Romeo Giulia/Stelvio for Zelensky, Macron, and others, with Iveco LMV Lince vehicles for perimeter security.
Anonymous ID: i4uzzFysItaly
8/15/2025, 10:57:19 PM No.513143136
>>513140180 (OP)
more infos will come
stay tuned
Anonymous ID: 2IsUyCypUnited States
8/15/2025, 11:05:46 PM No.513143866
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>>513140180 (OP)
Ruzzia has made huge advancements this year, albeit, they are to soon come to a crawl as winter arrives. Also, Jewlenksi's country is out of able bodied young men to send to the front, and Ukraine is also about to have the eastern front collapse next year (albeit middle of next year since they're going to reinforce what they can this winter) after the winter recedes since Pokrovsk is falling this month.

Putin has been clear on his aims too. No nato expansion in Ukraine. Ukrainian disarmament to a degree. No long range attack systems in Ukraine.

I wonder what Zogald Dump can offer since we started this conflict. Lol