Thread 513142938

It is so ridiculously easy to live in a van. I did it for five years continuously with a full time job, and the last two of those years was actually in a hatchback car because I had downsized my possessions so much that I didn't even need a van anymore. This was mostly in the northeast where winter temperatures could get below zero overnight regularly.

For 99.9% of human history a "house" was something that a man could build by himself or with the help of a few family members out of natural materials in just a few weeks. It wasn't some elaborate fucking thing full of all kinds of technology that needed a team of professionals to build and cost 20 years average salary and required a loan. Even without a van, you could spend $800 on a quality wall tent with stove compatibility and get some good camping gear and squat on public forest somewhere and have a higher quality of life than most people who have ever walked the Earth. The whole concept of "needing" a modern construction dwelling with plumbing and electricity is brain damage. People who are spending an entire paycheck on rent every month should be culled from the gene pool.

>>513142938 (OP)
I too like living in abject squalor. It is a sign of a learned man, you see

don't think you have to worry about the gene pool living in a van

great if you don't care about people being instantly disgusted when they hear you live in a van and also great if you don't care about vaginas or have kids

>>513143102

It is not even a barrel. :p

>>513143102
So you'd rather spend all of your money on the ability to change your pants while standing up? I had the time of my life being "homeless" and the only reason I stopped is due to an opportunity that came my way. I would go back to living in my car in a heartbeat if I needed to, and it would be even easier this time because I have downsized my core essential possessions even further in the time since.

>>513142938 (OP)

I always have these question for van lifers/digital nomads.

1. How do you always pay for gas
2. Insurance
3. Places to park because they made van living illegal now in most places including walmart and sams club parking lots

>>513143295
If you have kids get two vans. People do it. If you don't have kids, go to massage parlors. Cheaper in the long run. I've had more vaginas than you would believe if I told you.

>>513142938 (OP)
how do you go to the toilet?

>>513143707
I pay for them with money.

I usually parked at rideshare lots or trailheads. Some areas had free camping spots, very common in rural New England. If your stealthy enough you can park anywhere where there are other vehicles to blend in with.

>>513142938 (OP)

9 times out of 10 these van lifers are e beggers on youtube who have to beg for donos to get by. professional leechs basically.

>>513142938 (OP)
You fail all the IQ tests. You get a zero. Kys yourself

>>513143767
ive always wondered what it would be like to fuck a girl with multiple vaginas
you should probably take a shower though you fucking useless curr

>>513143834
I'm usually at work when I need to take a shit and that was true before I lived in a van. Otherwise, there are public bathrooms all over the place. If that fails I can go shit in the woods. In an extreme urban emergency I can use a plastic bag. I only had to do that twice in five years.

>>513142938 (OP)
van living is an offering to RAPEGODS. are you an impotent INCEL or a RAPEGOD? Those vans have easily picked locks, and you can literally just drive their bodies to the dump site.

Don't you need a residence? You can't just live in your car without an address. And then the insurance company will hike your rate up because you don't have a residence. Then there is the cost of running your gas/battery all day; it surely isn't feasible. It's not like it's an RV.

>>513143912
You're not wrong. I am not one them. I received no financial assistance of any kind from anyone during my experience.

>>513144034
Sounds like a good way to get 17 free hollowpoints. The one guy who tried what you are suggesting ran away the moment I said hello.

>>513144068
That's what mom's are for.

>>513144068
Residence and legal forms will be a complication, but it's not insurmountable. Often you can use work, or a PO box, or just make up a fake address, or just stick with whatever your last address was.

>>513144124

I mean I understand the hustle though of the digital nomad, and why people like the idea of it but man working a normal 9-5, coming home to a warm apartment all to yourself, warm cup of Chai tea in hand sitting down on a leather recliner is perfection.

>>513142938 (OP)
>can't renew reg because no address
>cops impound your home

>>513144466
Now imagine all of that exactly the same except inside a van.

>>513142938 (OP)
You're doing mental gymnastics to be okay with getting jew'd into homelessness. That's not high IQ, faggot.

>>513142938 (OP)
Trump literally just made that harder

>>513144572
You can register your car just fine, just use your last address

>>513144572

I was gonna mention that as well, if your van gets impounded your made street homeless at that point and your back at 0 again. Couch surfing would be better in the long run if you can't afford your own place, you just need 4 walls and be inside. Its better for your mental. Rent a room out if you have to

>>513142938 (OP)
The defensive tune of your post is very telling. But you are in fact living off the good nature of others. Everywhere you park is owned. If it's not privately owned then it's publicly property, which does not allow loitering. If you're paying for campsites, you're already spending more than the average person does in rent.

>>513142938 (OP)
you probably thought you'd sound smart as you were writing this post but i'm afraid you sound like a total retard OP

>>513142938 (OP)
>>513144029
actual wageslave
holy shit

>>513143432
Ahhaaaa I get the reference
>a featherless biped has made this post, and it is glorious

>>513142938 (OP)
>It's so easy to barely survive

your insect overlords approve this post

>>513143877
>I pay for them with money
You also sound like you have a punchable face.

>>513144697
The alternative is working 50+ hours and then forking over half of your income to a landlord for the privilege of being allowed to exist.

>>513143767
Drop massage parlor knowledge:
How to know suitable joints?
How to ask for what you want?
How much to pay/tip?
Bad experiences?

>>513144728
you need at least 2 proofs of residency. Some states more.

>>513144731
If your van gets impounded and you cannot get it back then you made a mistake that only a retarded person would make and you were never going to make it anywhere under any conditions.

You will own nothing, live in a van, and be happy

And these mutts call chinks bugs lmao

>>513144766
I don't give a fuck.

>>513144837
Yeah, I wasn't born into wealth and I didn't buy Bitcoin in 2012.

>>513144949
Welp, that was never a problem for me.

>>513145041
>I don't give a fuck
You do tho. You don't even understand yourself which is embarrassing. The very fact you made this thread, defensively, illustrates your insecurity. You're searching for people that will say you're right, but expecting the worst so maintaining defense since the very first word. You probably have an IQ in the 80s and and don't realize it. One of those people.

>tweaker steals your gay van
NOOO MY HOME

>>513144918
Use rubmaps. And download google translate so you can use it with bad data connection.

>>513145163
I don't care. If you pay rent you are a bug and you should shoot yourself.

>>513142938 (OP)

Where did you park to sleep?
How much do you speed on gas annually?
How much for repairs?
What brand of van did you buy?

>>513143102
kek
>LIVE IN THE POD CHUD
>>513143680
>you'd rather spend all of your money on the ability to change your pants while standing up?
does the NPC realize what it even typed just there? holy fucking hell LMFAO

>>513145249
Glock

Reject modernity embrace owning nothing living in the pod and being happy

>>513144906

Depends on the state and location. You can still pay less than half your income and pay rent for an apartment. Live in downtown Milwaukee its 600 dollars a month in some places, maybe 700. Thats a great deal. You don't even need to drive.

>>513144918
>How to know suitable joints?
Go to health/wellness section of Craigslist. Look for with generic young looking too good to be true Asian women, open late. Walk in, look for ATMs and CCTV cameras, and sliding windows at the counter.
>How to ask for what you want?/How much to pay/tip?
You negotiate with the 50 year old Chinese lady in clown makeup
>Bad experiences?
Don't do it.

>>513142938 (OP)
I agree I just lived with my parents and now I have a fortune while all my friends are poor and renting.

>>513145468
If you're paying more than 10% of your income on rent your life fucking sucks. And if you live in a major city it definitely sucks. When I lived in a van I lived in national forests and worked as a tradesperson in nearby towns.

>>513142938 (OP)
>Just buy an 80k van to live in
>>513143767
>Buy two

>>513142938 (OP)
Thats nice. Probably going to continue creamping my wife in AC on our king sized bed though.

>>513145588
>You negotiate with the 50 year old Chinese lady in clown makeup

Lol. You definitely do not do that.

>>513145757
>Just buy an 80k van to live in
And get hassled every other night you try to park and sleep somewhere. Then when the van breaks down, enjoy complete homelessness in some tree covered area off the highway everyone stays away because of the needles.

>>513145757
Don't buy a van at all. Buy a hatchback. The van is for people with too much shit.

>>513145921
Hence "IQ test". The experiences you describe happen when you are dumb.

>>513142938 (OP)
This is not the flex you think it is lmao. Trying to justify people being unable to afford a house by trying to hype up vanlife. Get the fuck outta here

>>513142938 (OP)
Car homeless for nearly 4. Sleep in the trunk. It's a living. Burn candles in a teapot during the winter to stay warm.

>>513146072
Okay then keep giving all of your money to Jews.

>>513144906
As opposed to forking out half of it on a van?

>>513146215
Trump will personally bulldoze your van.

>>513146187
It didn't occur to you to spend $30 on a catalytic space heater? This is exactly what I mean.

>>513143680
>You will own nothing and be happy

>>513146637
It's what we should all strive for anon. Anon is awesome.

>>513146360
You ever consider me just killing you? I like my tea candles. It's nice.

>>513142938 (OP)
>>513143680
>>513143707
>>513146187
>>513146072
Aaaa capitalism.

>>513146637
If you're paying rent then you DEFINITELY own nothing.

>>513146833
Try that in Maine.

>>513142938 (OP)
Sorry my dude, I need somewhere comfortable to live where I can take a woman and then fuck her. You cannot have an active sex life and also live in a van unless you are some sort of gigachad.

Vanlife will become illegal.
Living with your parents will become illegal.
European banks dont allow mortgages to siblings purchasing a house together.
They will do *anything* to make sure you WORK and feed boomer landlords 50% of your paycheck for a roof over your head.

>>513142938 (OP)
>It is so ridiculously easy to live in a van
>>the food crisis is a scam. Prices are scam. It's sooo easy to eat leftovers from the junk bins behind some restaurants.
>>that's the new normal.
>>it's hip.its in. It's what all the influencer would do (if they would be as poor as you)
>>accept the new normal
>>you don't NEED what WE need.
>>you will eat the bugs

Fuck off rabbi

>The housing crisis is an IQ test
>I live in a van
lmao stopped reading there

What's the point of working if your entire life is confined in a sardine can?
Can't buy anything nice for yourself outside of a nice meal but do you honestly just work to have food? What do you need the excess money for?

Caravans and RVs have much better HVAC and insulation than the vast majority of conversion vans, but there's something appealing about the ol ram 1500 van

>>513146959
Works in -7. Volume of space is the deciding factor in what you're using to heat with, and in addition to the small space I have many sleeping bags with a wool blanket.

>>513143680
so you're a massive loser coping over how shitty his wasted life was

the problem of camping in a yurt or something is lack of security. I'd love to but i'm anxious enough as it is in an apartment, a tent is just asking to get murder-raped-robbed.

>>513146980
Just use escorts or massage parlors. I've had sex with almost a hundred women at this point. Most of us cannot successfully interact with remotely attractive women anyway.

>>513147330
That's what the sawed off shotgun is for.

>>513142938 (OP)
>People who are spending an entire paycheck on rent every month should be culled from the gene pool.
Sir, get off this parking lot, or I will call the police.

>>513142938 (OP)
OP is right. Homesteading or being a vagabond are the only ways to escape the rent jew. At least with being a vagabond you can travel whereever. I walked and hitchhiked all over the United States for 10 years.

>>513147461

Shipping container home/ tiny home is better than van life.

>>513147190
I hiked thousands of miles over the five years I lived in automobiles and lived all over the country. I was certainly not "confined" anywhere.

>>513142938 (OP)
>>513143680
The point of living in an insulated building is to have a place you can bring a woman to, fuck her brains out in privacy, and then raise children there.
You cannot do that in a van.
We are going to become old men living in vans. Unless you fucking do something, you're going to be a fucking old man in a van with nothing.

>>513147195
That shit is so expensive it defeats the whole point. In fact, even a used Ford E series is too expensive.

>>513144029
>oy vey, you will live in the pod and shit in the bag goyim!
dystopian existence anon. i hope you at least travel the country as a van hobo

>>513143680
>I had the time of my life being "homeless" and the only reason I stopped is due to an opportunity that came my way. I would go back to living in my car in a heartbeat
Nothing's stopping you from still living in a van, if it's so great why don't you continue doing it

>>513147330
My only security requirement is that nobody can get to me quick without making noise. My Glocks can handle the rest.

>>513147588
No mobility so you can't move when you get caught and evicted, so it can't work long term with property ownership, thus defeating the whole purpose. You need mobility.

>>513147689
I have had sex with a different woman every week for years.

>>513143102
Das rite

>>513147731
How is throwing half of your income into a landlord's bottomless pit any better?

>>513147330
I always felt more secure in an apartment than a house. One point of entry, typically not on ground level.

>>513147857
Because I got a free house in a place I really like.

>>513147664
So a freelancer, okay. Again, what do you work for? Not who but why?
You could most likely hoard for a year and then have gas money for a decade, seeing as you have no other expenses then food and water.
So to travel the country?
I had a co-worker that was similar (he doesn't work there anymore) but he had a houseboat and he worked two jobs for a year and then went to Mexico and traveled the country, so least he went to another country to do his traveling. Maybe he died over there, don't know he quit before he went on his journey and what became of him afterwards is anyone's guess

>>513148078
Yeah I'm not interested in having sex with a different single mom every week.

>>513148146
You get to deal with the petty and vindictive fucking vacant lot landlords instead.

Good to save money to eventually own property (stille enslavement) but if you like the land and use it to grow food etc then I don't see the issue.
The van thing is also good as you a far more in tune with nature and can go wherever you please, while wagie rent payers are peak slaves. Is it still cope compared to the 50s? Yes.
But what other choice do zoomers have? It's at least 3k a month to rent anything these days, your only option is kys, live in a van/car/tent, buy some land and live in a cuckshed. Thats it. The middle class is demolished.

>>513147857
Because the opportunity was moving back in with his parents.

>>513142938 (OP)
>It is so ridiculously easy to live in a van.
Says thr idiot who has never done it.
In summer thr temperature inside can roast you alive .
In winter you freeze to death.

>>513148153
In a house there are shit tons of places for an intruder to hide. I'm only comfortable in a single room that can be locked. When I'm tent camping (most of my hobbies are outdoor/survival related) I pile up a perimeter of sticks and boughs that nothing can get through without making tons of noise so I can wake up and kill you.

>>513146835
Its both. You can't tell me Blackrock isn't well aware of the greed and selfishness of commoners. They didn't becone what they are from not being opportunistic fuckwits.

>>513148146
Most landlords are leveraged. He's likely only netting 10-20% of what you're paying him in rent.

If you don't like paying rent, buy a fucking house. Oh wait, you're poor and homeless nvm.

>>513148218
I don't want to go to any other country. America is the only country with quality public land and that doesn't have hundreds of stupid rules against things I like. Every single other country in the world is completely ruined by industrialization and politics.

What I do with my disposable income is irrelevant.

>>513148312
It really wasn't this bad when I was a kid wearing a nappy, something seriously wrong has broken in the property ownership market and that's before you even get into how bad the culture has become, it's a nasty feeling. Growing up thinking that flying cars and being in space might be the future, but waking up under a bridge, starving, probably soaked through to the bone or cooked in the heat, only to find a government finding a new law or rule to tax everyone and any opportunity to pick yourself up is thrown back in your face or a chance to stand on a rake and hit your own face.

>>513148573
This position makes no logical sense. Even were it true, people not owning homes is like the largest contributor to societal decay and collapse. Mocking people for it is like slowly cutting the support beams to your house.

>>513148312
Not owning property is a hell of a lot cheaper than owning property with very little downside.

>>513144029
>I only had to do that twice in five years.
you know how many times I had to shit in a public bathroom, bag or in the woods? Zero. Because I'm not a fucking hobo.

>>513143102
so asmongold is a genious?

>>513148421
Battery powered fan, catalytic heater, and sub-0 sleeping bag are all you need in the northeast. If you're in some place like Las Vegas, can't help you there. I only needed the fan an average of maybe 10 nights per summer.

>>513148573
Why should I have to buy a house when virtually all of our ancestors just built their homes from nearby wood and materials themselves for free save a few hand tools? It should not cost me anything to merely exist.

>>513148867
Or skip the van in just live in your car that you already have. That's what I did in the end.

>>513148793
I'm lodging and even I find it backward how the mortgage is too damn high, I know the interest rates are historically low but if a house costs £250,000 and it's 4% interest rates, I will lose out long term on a mortgage when the interest rates rise up to 10% which is historically where they sit. For some damn weird reason my government has made it illegal to talk about the problem, but I can still discuss the inflation, they print money for the problem to stay here, hotel owners and rentiers kick people out of homes so they can house the problem class, they get government money which is the best kind of money, they get rich and fat from it, everyone that plays legally gets poorer and has to enjoy paying a big debt.

The winning move is to not play and wait for the music to stop or die before you have to play.

>>513149054
Going to the bathroom is the single biggest non-issue with this lifestyle and I don't know why people are obsessed with subject.

>>513148793
A single man making $25/h shouldn't struggle that hard to save a couple of years for a down-payment.

>>513149365
>ancestors didn't pay taxes
Lmao even. Living was never free.

They also didn't have internet, so fuck off.

>>513149054
Seriously, even when I was living in apartments, when 10-11 o'clock rolled around and my bowels started moving, guess where I was? At work. And if it was my day off I was probably out and about doing something. So even back then it was relatively rare for me to take a shit at home. That's why I don't understand why this question comes up so often. What kind of lifestyle are you leading where it's so important for you to own a toilet and have it close at hand at all times? I don't get it.

>>513149845
Most humans in history didn't even use currency at all.

>>513149580
Because I'm laying in my bed now and for me to take a piss I walk ten steps to my bathroom. I can also take a shower there.

For you, your best option is piss bottles.

>>513149845
Shoulda, coulda, woulda. Only the reality of it all remains. Systems at current do not produce adequate results. Mocking people for it is not productive.

>>513142938 (OP)
If you have to live in a van and you think it's normal you are living in a collapsed society.

>>513149974
Lack of currency doesn't make life free.

>>513149090
I hope this is a rhetorical question

>>513146835
>The Atlantic
Yeah, okay, real credible and honest source you got there lmao

>>513150073
It's not normal, and society has collapsed. That's why millions have to choose between homelessness and wage slavery. I chose homelessness and it rocked and I'll probably do it again.

>>513150151
There was no culture in history before our modern era where "basic necessities" required taking out loan.

>>513142938 (OP)
>just turn yourself into a cockroach John you will win this way
>how do I get to raise a family in a fucking van
>foolish go- boy you ain't winning if you raise a family you are winning when you are able to play next cod with some negro slut skin using mcdonald's wifi

>>513146215
You say that as if they don't own the dealerships, the banks, etc lol. Try again.

Pretty sure I'd find a jewish owned property to squat in before living in a van.

>>513144840

Just the kinda mockery I would appreciate. "Philosophers" can be so damn mainstream.

>>513150530
How do you raise a family in a studio apartment with zero dollars left over after rent and groceries for one? You people aren't telling me what your alternative is.

>>513150695
There is always that option of something something crossing a river called rubics cube and other stuff but if you love to be pissed on because you are but a fucking permanent bottom bitch bred serf that's on you but you must know your fucking place and shut the fuck up.

>>513150601
Of course they do. So are you going to pay them car loans AND rent on top of that?

Seriously there is nothing more pitiful dogshit on the world than a faggot being proud of eating shit.

>>513150511
Still don't. You can rent or continue living in a tent.

If you're so insistent on living exactly as we did 40,000 years ago, why are you posting online or reading at all?

After reading the replies in this thread I've come to the conclusion that all of you are just lazy fatasses who couldnt live this lifestyle even if you wanted.

In the 10 years I was homeless I was more alive and content with life than the past 2 years I've been working 9-5.

>>513149365
People in the past were more free than those who live in the present times.
You are human resource for exploitation. A born slave to enrich the rich ruling capitalist class with your labor.

>>513150153
answer it coward

>>513150977
I'm insistent on not wasting half of my life working to give money to scam artists.

>>513151097
It's called camping and you're not supposed to do it for years on end unless you're doing something useful or cool like exploring something new or doing research.

>>513151097
>you are just lazy fatasses who couldnt live this lifestyle even if you wanted.

I would never want to be homeless. I don't even really like camping.

I would so much rather sacrifice 40 hours a week working than just kind of figuring it out daily in the elements with nothing but the heroin and booze to keep me comfy.

>>513151456
Why not just set up direct deposit right into Blackrock's bank account?

>>513151269
But you'd rather waste all your years being uncomfortable and generally unpleasant to be around.

>>513151535
Uh ok. I think you do that by participating in the economy in any way whatsoever, you're just choosing a level of subsistence similar to a nigger.

>>513151097
No shit retard. A house is also an investment, its so much superior than bumming it out in the wild...

>>513151485
Only the first year is hard. Once you get your routines and organization down and throw away all the useless shit you started out with it gets so easy that you won't even think about being homeless anymore. If you get good enough you might even start getting bored again.

>>513151257
>you have awakened the final boss of sarcasm
This is like a train hitting an Indian in terms of impact

>>513142938 (OP)
>>513143680
Based parking lot ascetic

>>513151634
I was never uncomfortable and I slept great every night.

>>513151674
Except spending the vast majority of my income of whatever the fuck I want.

>>513142938 (OP)
>>513143102
Op, if you still pay taxes, registration, and insurance, this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard

Also what are these white things

>>513151706
>>513151834
So why would you ever stop being homeless?

I find it interesting that OP and this guy talk about how great being homeless, but have decided not to be homeless now for reasons.

>>513146072
You can work full-time and save on rent to expedite the process of buying a home. In my case it's to make it possible to finish my degree then flee this shit hole country. Then I can purchase a home abroad.

>>513151887
Yeah, I'm definitely inferior to the guy who doesn't pay rent OR taxes. No argument there.

Pic wasn't mine.

>>513142938 (OP)
most jewish post at the moment

>>513151990
Because I got a free house.

>>513142938 (OP)
>For 99.9% of human history a "house" was something that a man could build by himself or with the help of a few family members out of natural materials in just a few weeks. It wasn't some elaborate fucking thing full of all kinds of technology that needed a team of professionals
That's a car you're living in

>>513142938 (OP)
>FUCK MY HOUSE GOT TOWED
No thanks

see how faggots like this have to make threads like this to cope? this is the same as that polak who makes threads about his thermo cup food, that shit looks so disgusting. (also a nice breeding ground for bacteria to keep shit warm for that longs) i wouldnt feet it to my dog

>>513142938 (OP)
You people are reptilians or something, you just love surviving. I'm about to survive... oh God... I'M SURVIVIIIIIIING! OH GOD YESSS CUM EVERYWHERE.

>>513152207
A car is inferior to a wigwam.

>>513151990
I'm heading back out there again soon.

I only stopped because my father was dying and I had to stay around, then I just got sucked into the routine. But now I'm drained again.

Keep working for the Jew like a good shabbos goy.

>>513152305
And you love throwing the fruits of half of your waking labor hours into a bottomless pit with nothing to show for it.

>>513152368
You still need a bunch of technologies for it, assembled by a team of professionals.

>>513152368
I want her in my wigwam
ba-da-da

>>513152305
Lol
Snacking on deenz in my van niggers

>>513145376
>>513145921
You sleep at truck stops dummy

>>513143680
>So you'd rather spend all of your money on the ability to change your pants while standing up?
LMAO Holy fuck you're pathetic
Legitimately pathetic. Like even an actual cuck is more manly than you

>>513152445
Enjoy dying in the streets, faggot.

>>513152493
I don't need it to begin with. It is functionally equivalent to something I can create myself using only a hatchet, as far as it's utility as a home is concerned.

This is not about ideology. This is about not giving all of your money away to Jews.

>>513152588
Wow you totally gamed the system like a true Californian, we are all jealous of you. You could have just split an apartment with someone and have what's called space, and a shower, and a real stove, and a real fridge, and rooms.

>>513152792
I didn't die in the 10 years I was out there, and I didn't even have a car.

You're just as likely to die as me, faggot.

>>513152827
You think jews don't own roads and parking lots?

>>513142938 (OP)
IDK, I'm retarded and thought about doing this a few times.

40 years old, retarded, live with parents. When they die, what do? Van life might work, but I've been drifting more towards an hero at this point. I'm certainly not going to be burden to others.

>>513143145
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

>>513153017
They can send me the bill

>>513153057
If you're gonna suicide, why not try being a traveling hobo first? You can always suicide later if it doesn't work out. Give a few weeks first though.

>>513142938 (OP)
>you will own nothing and be happy

>>513143767
Raising kids out of a van is child abuse and anyone who actually has a kid they love and care about will know that. Kids cannot grow up in a van on the side of the road mate. Your van is great for YOUR freedom but it’s just a van and ultimately you are delaying your life and wasting time on stuff that won’t be relevant to you when you’re older. You do NOT want to be some old dude living out of a van. I can live in a gutter but to actually build a life and not just exist you need a proper base and something to leave behind as a legacy. Your van life will slowly become more restrictive as the novelty wears off and you realise you’re simply running from something - yourself, your future, whatever it is. You’re running and time is running out.

>>513142938 (OP)
It's also easy to live in a concentration camp, kike. Free rent, heh.

>>513144309
>chooses van life to find freedom from this scummy world
>becomes liar and scammer and rip off artist to get what he wants and rip off honest people
We all know what you do with your van mate. You take all sorts of liberties. It’s a lifestyle built on leeching off other people’s property and parking up where you’re not welcome to “camp” wherever you want even if it’s not a camp site. So much shit left by the side of the road that it actually become an ecological hazard.

>>513153091
>bill?

>>513144678
It’s not exactly the same. You’re in a van. There’s a thin sheet of metal and glass separating you from the world. You’re basically out there with your ass hanging out waiting to get fucked get something or someone. Camping in a van is nothing the same thing as having an apartment. Not the same thing at all.

>>513153520
I mostly parked on public property.

>>513144992
I don’t have to worry about that because my house is legit. I live in peace, not needing to trick people or lie to exist.

>>513144029
Spiritual jeet

>>513153687
What if everyone decides to live on public property? You're not a commie, are you anon?

>>513153520
And what if you have a lot to park the van on? What's your opinion on that?

>>513153673
I only got bothered by one creep in that whole five years and I didn't have to fire a single shot.

>>513153829
Then we'll be the majority.

>>513147361
That’s disgusting. You gave up hope of a normal life to be a degenerate on the road. The results of your “van life” literally degrading your life to a cheap ride. You don’t realise it but your situation is damaging you mentally and morally.

>>513147461
> I walked and hitchhiked all over the United States for 10 years.
You also achieved nothing in the last ten years. I advanced my career, bought a house and had three children. You…partied and shit. Life is gonna get really rough for you fast.

>>513151747
you didn't answer the question

>>513154038
That doesn't sound very American to me, anon. Maybe the world would never tolerate such bullshit.

>>513148078
That’s nothing to be proud of. You reduced yourself to a cheap whore because your life on the streets brought you down to the gutter.

>>513142938 (OP)
>It is so ridiculously easy to live in a van
lmao you shit in a bucket and shower once a week
congrats, you are a gypsy

>>513142938 (OP)
I bought my house with cash in 2018.

>>513154205
"Waaa you didn't become a good goyslave cog in the system like me!"

Legacy is meaningless. You will be forgotten in two or three generations. I have lived a full and happy life and I regret nothing.

>>513152978
Everyone dies. I get a family, material comfort, and vidya.

>>513154515
What if it's an RV with plumbing, with grey and black tanks?

>live in the pod or you're a low IQ nigger
>wanting a house or even an apartment is brown-coded
hmm i wonder if this psyop will work? perhaps the goyim should be demoralized a little more first

>>513150695
Why the FUCK are you even thinking about getting a studio apartment. That’s probably the worst fucking option for a new family. Goddamnit mate you don’t have to live in a New York apartment why the fuck can’t people see that. They do the same shit here, constantly complaining about apartments in Auckland but won’t even leave the city for cheap rentals and houses.

>>513151097
You were also younger. I was homeless at times in my 20s and 30s. I’m in my 40s now. Fuck that if I can avoid it. It’s not that I can’t - it’s that nobody who’s seeing the writing on the wall wants to spend their later years floating around like a vagrant with nothing to show for having lived except gay stories about that time you were homeless .

>>513154752
Genetics echo an eternity.

>>513151834
Sure you did. Sleeping on the streets is a mind destroying thing. Do it enough and you’ll sever your link to society and become a schizophrenic.

Europeasants like me don't really understand the absurd inequalities that exist in America
We all see Americans as people that live better than us but even the notion of living in a car as something normal is so alien to most of us it doesn't even register as an option or something that could ever be normal

>>513142938 (OP)
I always joke with my mom that she'll lose the house cause she's old and will get scammed out of it and then I'll end up living in a van. I legit would if I wasn't getting a house

>>513142938 (OP)
>no toilets
>no running water
>no electricity
Yeah no thanks

>>513154884
then it's not a van, retard

>>513153969
It’s the same living in a house. I’ve never been bothered by any creeps. You have no idea who was stalking you at night. All your stuff was always insecure. No ability to store anything with confidence. It’s not even comparable to living in a house and certainly not for a family. A young man’s fun little game for a few years before he realises his life is passing him by, yeah. Or before he develops a drug habit and this whole charade of being “free” gets revealed for what it really is. A dysfunctional person running from his own life, seeking escape in anything he can find.

>>513144009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzvMG-BOdS0

>>513154752
It’s not meaningless at all. I plan to live forever and so will me children. In the meantime we have decades of good life to enjoy and I can gladly say I didn’t waste those years bumming around like I did in my youth. You need to wake up, you’re losing grip on reality and life itself. These are just excuses for actually having no life. You’re not happy so don’t lie to me.

>>513149519
>but if a house costs £250,000 and it's 4% interest rates, I will lose out long term on a mortgage when the interest rates rise up to 10%
wait are mortgage rates variable in the UK? jesus christ

>>513154093
I never had any hope of a normal life. I was almost 30 the first time I went to a massage parlor and I had only had sex one time before that.

>>513142938 (OP)
>live in ze pood goyim
No thanks mr goldberg

>>513154403
You have order backwards.

>>513143707
>I always have these question for van lifers/digital nomads
Same.
Where do they shower or take a shit?

>>513154515
I shit at work or at the gas station or at Walmart, exactly the same as before I lived in a vehicle.

>>513156004
>I plan to live forever
the delusion is strong lol

>>513154886
If you have a better option, do that.

>>513156391
>exactly the same as before I lived in a vehicle.
congratulations, you have always been a vagrant

>>513155442
I could make a pretty good bough bed when I was only 12 with my first hatchet that I got at an antique store.

>>513155700
That stuff is all around you, you don't need to own or rent it.

>>513152940
you should be going to the gym everyday, you can shower there. And if you park in a forest you have all the space you want.

>>513155885
Well it worked for me.

ITT: let me guess, you need more

>>513156276
Schwab is actually correct. How are 8 billion people all going to have a 3 bedroom home on 5 acres with a white picket fence?

>>513155885
>No ability to store anything with confidence. It’s not even comparable to living in a house and certainly not for a family. A young man’s fun little
in my country you can rent a storage room for 20€ per month. Or you could just store things in your parents home.

>>513156346
Do you have a job? Where are you on a typical day at 10AM when you feel the urge to take a shit? And have you never heard of gym memberships?

However, when I was roughing it in the woods, what I would usually do was heat up water in a large stainless steel pot and bathe with that. But most of the time I just showered at planet fitness.

>being homeless is high IQ
i dunno anon. the median net worth of a home owner is something like 30x that of the non-home owners. i suppose the reason is that buying an appreciating asset at 20x leverage just might be a higher IQ move than living in a van.

>>513156617
>no shower
>no sauna
>no good bed
>no place to cook food
>someone can steal everything you own by driving off in your van
No thanks

>>513156513
No, I have always had a job in a building that had bathrooms and was otherwise away from home doing stuff on my days off. Do you wake up and just play videogames all day and then go "oh gotta take a shit, good thing I have a toilet"?

>>513142938 (OP)
A smart move is getting an RV. Tow lots won't touch them if they're consider bio-hazards.

>>513156254
Correct, you never had any hope. So you shortcutted the process, fornicate with whores and made yourself filthy. Now sex for you is associated with some whore. Bad move. Admit that you have a problem (we all do) and change your ways. You can’t be complaining about running out of hope when you don’t give hope a chance. You tainted the water, to fix it you have to admit it first.

>>513157140
I work from home
>oh gotta take a shit, good thing I have a toilet
yes
>No, I have always had a job
so you had a job and were busy on your days off but you still have to live in a van?
what happened?

>>513142938 (OP)
>For 99.9% of human history a "house" was something that a man could build by himself or with the help of a few family members out of natural materials in just a few weeks. It wasn't some elaborate fucking thing full of all kinds of technology that needed a team of professionals to build and cost 20 years average salary and required a loan.

Live a week without electricity. You wouldn't be able to bitch about homes online.

>>513157012
This. I used storage units pretty heavily for the first two years to keep my vehicle spacious. They're cheap and simple to move in and out of. But eventually I downsized enough to not need them anymore. I tend to not own valuable things. The only material possessions I have that are remotely valuable are guns and those are easy to hide, and I'm always carrying a few with me.

>>513157084
>>someone can steal everything you own by driving off in your van
Yeah, that is the biggest issue. But I think most thieves just go for valuables, it's really easy to track down a house on wheels if it goes missing.

>>513156441
Not at all. It’s a belief shared by millions and millions of people around the world and they are not deluded. Perhaps rethink what you think this life is before basing all your decisions on “not existing” forever. You will exist. Forever. Make peace with it and live accordingly.

>>513157069
That's probably because people who can afford a house have a higher net worth.

>>513143102
quite

>>513157342
>Live a week without electricity. You wouldn't be able to bitch about homes online.
Well, no shit. Next you'll be saying my car wont run without gas.

>>513157012
Once again, renting some storage room somewhere is not the same thing as having a house and it’s not even remotely comparable. All my stuff is with me in my house. I don’t have to go down to some storage shed to find my giant sized buttplugs.

It's not. Banks and corporations are robbing us and you're letting it happen.

>>513143102
OK keep paying interest in a house you aren't even in for 50% your life

>>513157084
I'm actually using essentially the same bed now that I did in my car.

>>513157342
>Live a week without electricity
to be fair
pre-electric era houses were designed differently
and you could do without it
a modern house is crippled without electricty beacuse it wasn't designed do be without it

>>513157396
>You will exist. Forever.
how do you know?

>>513157396
>. It’s a belief
beliefs are like assholes, everybody has one
> Perhaps rethink
perhaps start taking meds, you're insane

>>513157572
>how do you know?
well DUH
he has existed for as long as he can remember
so logically, he will exist forever like
it's the only sensible conclusion
/s

>>513157349
Nigga do you not know that all the “valuable” things I own are things like drawings from my kids. You just aren’t understanding this at all. You cant even keep memories around safely, you have no security. We are not all hoarding treasures in our houses - we are able to express our lives within them to a much greater degreee of normalcy and comfort. I’m not protecting gold bars I’m protecting a family and a life and all that’s important to us. I want more of those things and not to just have less and less stuff and be proud of fading into nothingness.

>>513157084
with the money you save by not renting you can go to a fancy gym with a swimming pool and a sauna. And I don't know how are the supermarkets in your cunt, but here the biggest chains have a room with tables and a microwave you can use. And "good" beds are a lie, the best bed you can get is a Japanese futon. The firmer the bed, the better your back will feel when you wake up. It takes a couple of weeks to get used to it.

>>513157288
My options are to have a sex life with prostitutes, or to not have a sex life. I chose the former several years ago and I have never regretted. To this day, no better solution has manifested itself.

>>513142938 (OP)
Hey honey, I donated the house to Israel and a bought a van for our family to live in, think of the savings!

>>513157625
Not all assholes are equal

>>513157747
Have you guys just not heard of religion? I’m trying not to make this about that, but you’re not exactly reading between the lines. Do you actually think I meant live forever like some sort of cyborg? No, I don’t share your hopelessness for the future. My family will be with me forever, I pray.

>>513157822
So with the money you save you can go and waste that money on an expensive spa. Ok.

>>513157326
Look up some basic figures for average wages in America for common jobs, average rent prices, average cost of goods and necessities, and do the math.

>>513157906
>Have you guys just not heard of religion?
oh my lol
no more questions, all clear now

>>513157512
Why would I do that? That sounds like something an idiot would suggest, one who does not have a fully paid off house lol

>>513157822
>renting
What if I own my house?

>>513157342
Electricity has existed for such a short time period that it would present as a nearly invisible sliver relative to the rest of human history on a graph.

>>513157843
You don’t need a “sex life”, you need A LIFE mate. Sex is something that drags us down like a sick urge. Sex is for your wife, try to keep it that way. You’re not doing your future any favours by messing yourself up more and destroying any chance of a clean slate should it come along. Don’t do it to yourself. You never regretted it because you never considered the price you paid. You gave up on you and you paid those women to suck out your soul.

>>513157999
how do you fail at life in the world's most prosperous country, the land of opportunity, the global empire, the shining beacon of the blah blah
and don't ever call me yuropoor again lmao

>>513158013
>ID
>POOR LATE THIEF
>flag
praise kek

>>513158116
>you need A LIFE mate
lol no thanks

>>513157955
a good gum with a sauna, and free haircuts it's like 50€. Renting a room in a city (where the jobs are) is 400€ at the bare minimum here. Renting a house is 700€, and the median salary is 1300€. You can give yourself a lot of "luxuries"" like a good gym and eating meat every day if you don't have to pay half your salary to some boomer.

>>513157753
I have never cared or even thought about stuff like that.

How do you convince a girl to come back to your van parked in the woods to bang?

>>513158323
i lived under a bridge for a bit
and i worked at mcdonalds overnight
one of my coworkers came to my tent randomly
and wanted to fuck

>>513158425
he said girl
not gay homosexual faggotry

>>513158285
That’s why you’re homeless and proud of having sex with prostitutes. I’m not having a go at you, not even sure why I’m trying to warn you. But you KNOW this doesn’t make you happy. Don’t try to sell us this shit mate, it’s like a female influencer trying to pretend she’s in bliss with her cats. No need to defend your pride and pretend it’s a way of life or will lead to anything except depression.

>>513158116
I was old enough to make an informed decision that a relationship was not possible for me. I was not some 17 year old depressed because my crush rejected me. I was 28 years old and I had put serious effort into every option available to me. I am now almost 35 and nothing has changed. When I talk to women, nothing happens. No seed of a relationship is planted. There is no rapport or chemistry. They don't like me, and I don't like them. Sex workers are my only option. That is just reality.

>>513142938 (OP)
the tech isnt even that fancy bro. the issue is people dont have the skills and th egovernment makes it hard to buy your own plot of land and build it yourself with all the permitting crap.

>>513158694
The alternative is blowing all of my money and rent and not having sex. Doesn't sound better to me.

>>513158570
girls don't give a fuck if you live under a bridge if you are tall and handsome. Hell, if you are a Chad living under a bridge will give you extra points for the dangerous aura.

>>513158116
>You don’t need a “sex life”, you need a ball and chains and the Damocles sword of divorce court hanging over your dick and balls

>>513158323
I remember hearing about a guy in high school who lived in an RV with his brother and dad. Would have been interesting to see how that panned out.
Though I've been to another house with a dad and two sons. It smelled horribly and seemed like dog food covered almost all the carpet.

>>513158570
oh, guess i should have specified
coworker (female)
we fucked several times, eventually got a hotel room
it was awkward because it was the shift supervisor's gf

>>513158774
Godspeed, anon. Don't listen to the wagie rage, it's all cope.

>>513158323
How do you convince a girl to bang period regardless of any conditions? I never learned that one.

>>513142938 (OP)
the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry
Rents don't need to be this high

>>513159208
By not treating them as equals in mind or soul, be real about them to them.

>>513158774
Sex is way, way overrated. Try discipline for a while. It might lead to sex that you actually WANT to have with somebody. Not just acting out an urge. Try it.

>>513159208
Personality, either you're born with it or you aren't. If you have it the world is your oyster. Barring that you have to sift through the dregs and settle for abused girls from broken homes.

>>513159244
>the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry, and the chinese have lived prosperously and never paying a chinese dime in rent ever since
lol

>>513158801
Girls do care. We literally lived under a bridge. Only girls that are teenagers or young adults will meet you under a bridge.

>>513142938 (OP)
Yeah the IQ test is seeing if you're smart enough to not fall for Mike Rowe tier humiliation rituals and you weren't.

>>513159347
Try what exactly? Be more specific.

And I disagree about sex being overrated. It's actually the only reason I bother to go on living. There's not much in this world or this life that impresses me.

>>513159340
An equal is someone that I can negotiate with in plain and direct language if they have something I want.

>>513158888
A “sex life” is a bigger ball and chain that will literally kill you and ruin your life beyond your comprehension, but just because your penis feels good for five minutes you ignore all that. Finding a good wife might take some time but you won’t even try. A marriage can work out well, casual sex with whores can never work out into anything except more unseen damage you think you’re not sustaining to what little is left of what you call your humanity.

>>513159455
Just try NOT having sex? What are you doing running around sticking your dick into strange women’s vagina holes? That really is your brightest moment? That’s really sad man. I feel sorry for you. My life sucks but that’s absolute hell.

>>513159555
we get it
you're married
the wife stopped putting out after the last kid
and you convinced yourself sex isn't important
hell, you'd probably be too tired to have any from all the work you have to do
>those grapes, so sour

>>513159666
I have plenty of experience not having sex, I assure you, in case you forgot everything else I just told you.

>>513159778
>I have plenty of experience not having sex
kek and ouch, akchually

>>513159351
>There's one group of millennials that seems to have no problems buying homes.
>Seventy percent of young adults in China are homeowners, according to a recent HSBC survey. The study, which looked at more than 9,000 people born between 1981 and 1998 in nine countries, found that the home ownership rate of Chinese millennials is nearly double the global average.
>Mexico, with 46% of millennials owning their own homes, was the next highest country. By comparison, only 35% of American millennials are property owners
https://money.com/millennials-home-ownership-china-america/
No one is saying they don't pay rent. I am saying they made housing affordable.

>>513159717
Sex is important but it’s way way way less important than we think it is. This is a pathetic baboon society. A bunch of men standing around playing with their balls and sniffing diseased women’s asses. No thanks I am not a dog or a monkey. I want to live an enlightened human experience involving love, my children and a future. Moving my penis in and out of a woman is not only not very impressive but it has serious half life in terms of being a reason for living.

>>513159778
Good. At least you were innocent. Now you’re just some guy who travels around, shags prostitutes and no one even knows what other secrets you’re hiding from us but I’m sure there are A LOT. Oh and I wish you well man, there has to be something better for you in the future. Hope you meet a woman that treats you well.

>>513159555
You don't have the ability to comprehend how unobtainable women are for certain types of men.

>>513159888
yep, she stopped putting out
so you "decided" you don't need any
a very frequent cope

>>513159990
You don’t have the ability to comprehend how feeding into an evil devolution of manhood actually makes the individual MORE unattractive. You can’t carry around a pervert’s heart and expect a Princess to fall out of the sky. What’s wrong with you just being you? Who gives a shit what some slut thinks?

>>513160038
Err, no. Of course I “need” it, but it’s a vastly different feeling having a lover and having children with her over all the girls I can’t even remember having sex with out of sheer boredom or drug induced psychosis.

>>513159888
Your children are stuck in the same worthless cycle you are. Their existence is pointless and so is yours.

>>513160235
You’re projecting and you know it. One day you will take an account of your life and instead of being praised you will be shown to have spent your time pointing at other families and calling them worthless. Yet it is only you who wasted his precious breath on such demonic hatred of the innocent.

>>513159985
Yeah, I'm a guy who has sex, instead of not having sex. I still don't understand what your point is beyond insisting that I just somehow magically start being attractive to women.

>>513159555
>Finding a good wife might take some time
"just find a unicorn bro". I'm not going to decry someone for banging some useless whores from time to time to get their dick wet.

>>513142938 (OP)
> live in the richest nation in the history of mankind
> contempts into living in a vehicle like a subhuman outcast of society

Sadly, many such cases of goyish sheep indenturing their slave in kike society

YOU DESERVE A HOUSE YOU TURBO NIKKA. YOUR ANCESTORS WORKED FOR IT.
DONT LET THE KIKES TAKE IT AWAY FROM YOU

>>513160133
You're still not explaining any kind of clear and objective means of starting a relationship, you're just using meaningless flowery language.

>>513160228
you sound like one of those born again christcucks who are ashamed of having been young and horny

>>513160368
I don't hate anyone. I just recognize the material world as having no value.

>>513144906
Just move to somewhere you can afford a home?

>>513161071
I don't want to waste any significant percentage of my income on something like housing and I'm never taking out a loan again for the rest of my life.

>>513160560
>YOU DESERVE A HOUSE
Read the thread, he really doesn't lol.