Thread 513154142

historically they basically had to in order to work at all. they could not own farmland or even lease it due to the laws at the time and basically were forced into being moneylenders. kings like william the conqueror even encouraged them to come to england from europe to moneylend...

>>513154142 (OP)
Go work in the middle east you fucking parasite race, medieval whites had zero reason to care if anon european group couldnt make a living in their territories

>>513154142 (OP)
>There are no other jobs other than owning farmland

Why do they have to be the owners of anything why can't they work with their hands to earn a living just like a majority of everyone else had to? They continuously become money lenders because of the power and potential to manipulate others it brings not because they were forced into the position.

>>513154819
why cut off the end of my sentence?
they could not lease the land to do farm work and that was basically the only work at the time.

>>513154142 (OP)
No-one is seriously blaming the vile Jews for being vile moneylenders. It's not their fault, it's their misfortune, or nature or whatever. The point is that for whatever reason they objectively ARE vile moneylenders and they must be treated accordingly if our nations are to survive. It's either us or them.

>>513154142 (OP)
Saar, nobody could own farmland because it belonged to the king who lent it to his nobels.....

>>513155589
read my post.
you could lease farmland which is what farmers would do, however jews were banned from doing this by law

>>513155668
Could they not rent the lease land?

>>513155668
Peasants worked on that land and payed tax, they neither owned it nor lease it and you're moving the goal post pajeet .....

>>513155770
when I say lease I am using the terms back then. basically it was similar to renting, but only certain people could do it (not jews) and it could not be sublet to jews either

>>513156071
Okay, question asked, question answered. But nobody got at Jews for money lending, they got mad because of usury

>>513155989
read my opening post. jews were banned from operating within the feudal landholding system. they could not lease or own land. wage labour didn't really exist back then so it's not like a non-jew could just hire them like today

They didn't want to work the land, it was far more lucrative to operate as "merchants" outside of the guild system (a privilege granted to no one else). Europeanonarxhs repeatedly tried to turn the Jews into settled farmers and workers but they took it as an insult because they view working with your hands to be beneath a Jew.

>>513156230
>But nobody got at Jews for money lending, they got mad because of usury
that's what I meant by money lending. I know the difference but.... semantics...

>>513156452
>They didn't want to work the land, it was far more lucrative to operate as "merchants" outside of the guild system (a privilege granted to no one else).
they were not allowed to in the feudal land system. also they were brought into do usury by the king, so I don't get why people blame them

>>513154142 (OP)
>can;t work the land like a decent person
>here you flthy semite, get to work dishing out those loans

thanks christianity

>>513156489
Usury implies mal practice. It's the whole point of having separate terms
>Money lending
Implies that the transaction is done in good faith
>Usury
Implies that the transaction was predatory
Usury cannot be tolerated in civil societies

>>513155020
Why did they have own or lease the land why couldn't they just work the land like a majority of the population?

Are you stupid? Why would a brutal christian society need outsiders that are non-christian at all? The only reason they got tolerated was because of their abiltiy to lend money.

>>513156770
usury is a form of money lending.
today it has a more negative connotation, but back in 11th century england, usury was just another word for jewish money lending with interest

>>513154142 (OP)
>historically they basically had to in order to work at all. they could not own farmland
The standard lie. They were money lenders way before that and they could have worked as servants aswell. Also strange how christianity helped the jews there.

>>513156844
see >>513156363

>>513154142 (OP)
Nothing stopping them farming or mining.

>>513156902
i'm asking why people blame them if they were imported specifically to do this

>>513154142 (OP)
Yes how dare those evil europeans force the Jews to live there and exploit all their money!

>>513157029
>hey were money lenders way before
not with interest (christians not allowed to charge interest) and jews were brought in as royals needed more money but were not able to borrow enough if doing so from people who did not charge any interest

>>513157074
there literally was. they were not able to own or lease land. wage work did not really exist like it does now.

>>513157057
Your post doesn't make sense though because only a small amount of the population even own land or had any to lease out a majority of the people in the feudal system worked on the land. Why couldn't jews simply do that? Basically what you are implying is jews MUST be the owners or the lenders but never actually work with their hands like a majority of the rest of the population did. That's their own fault because of their own hubris but somehow playing the victim at the same time make it sound like they are forced to be money lenders..

>>513157029
because money lending is a sin, so they let sinful but needed work done by jews.
economy wasn't that important back then with the societal stands.
a rich jew was still just a jew and nothing more.

>>513157256
You did not understand me here. I said they, the jews, were money lenders before christianity existed or they appeared in europe.

>>513157375
when I say they could not lease land, I don't mean they couldn't lease it out, I mean they could not lease it from someone to then work on.
wage work like we have now did not really exist.
I think there is confusion as maybe british/american english uses the word lease differently.

>>513157412
>because money lending is a sin
Some times the term christcucks is correct

>>513154142 (OP)
Jews are the nightmare cucks, muslims and faggots created for themselves, are you genuinely surprised they cannot face their own role in all this?

>>513157094
To be frank most people blame christkeks for allowing it.

>>513154142 (OP)
>Doesnt matter how you got the power, its what you do with it

>>513157297
Farms always need labourers. Workshops, anywhere.
They could also have just left the Christian world and gone elsewhere.

>>513157592
idk, i am just basing it from people's posts on here and comments on this (decently made) video https://youtu.be/XJrkutSC6ww

>>513157640
>They could also have just left the Christian world and gone elsewhere.
see >>513157094

>>513154142 (OP)
I want to lend to foreigners at interest just like the Edomites do but the fucking Edomites regulated lending so much :(.

Usury was circumvented by several contracts, so was in fact in use. Also there were many rich Europeans involved in banking. This idea that only jews could lend money and money lending was the only job they could take is hilariously wrong, and very much propaganda. Also see why jews are in hollywood because of vaudeville, or not being allowed into new york banking because of control by wasps. These are just so stories made up to explain to retards why certain sectors are controlled.

>>513157729
the law of usury comes from Moses you tard

>>513154142 (OP)
Anti Semitism is older than Christianity.

>>513154142 (OP)
>they could not own farmland or even lease it due to the laws at the time
Damn, they couldn't be landlords? That sucks.

>>513157489
>I mean they could not lease it from someone to then work on.

Could not or refuse to because those are two very different things. Do you have any specific laws prohibiting jews from being agricultural workers, fishermen, miners, so on and so forth.

>>513156844
A better question is why they came to a country in which they were not welcome.

>>513158278
they could not lease (rent) the land either

>>513158332
>Do you have any specific laws prohibiting jews from being agricultural workers, fishermen, miners, so on and so forth.
yes. Henry I’s charter to the Jews and overall feudal law. applies to fishing, mining and farming due to land rights.

>>513156718
fucking kek can someone edit a cross instead of a shovel and have the jew say he wants to worship yaweh in this meme?

>>513158435
Show the part of the charter and the feudal laws that outright prohibit jews from fishing, minins, and farming please.

>>513158016
The Torah says you can lend to foreigners at interest but not your fellow Israelite. You can lend to Gentiles. Germanics are the real Israelites. We can lend to other Adamic nations at interest but not other Israelites. All the White Adamics are long dead though, mongrelized. Christ will resurrect them when he returns. But technically we could lend to the non-White world and rule over them but Edomite fake Jews would never allow that. But if money lending is a business I don't really see what is stopping us besides unreasonable regulations.

>>513159519
All the other White Adamics besides Israelites are all dead now, but not Israelites*

Verse:
Jeremiah 30:11

>>513154142 (OP)
Nothing wrong with lending, if anything it's a kind act.

It's the deceitful practices that people began to recent. Never play with people's money.

>>513154142 (OP)
kikes should have stayed in their homeland, india.

>>513156844
Because they are better than goyim, they couldn't work for one
Better to clip coins and do illegal loan sharking until they get exiled again.

>>513154142 (OP)
who came up with the idea that gentile were not allowed to be bankers? "That's right goyim, it's a sin for you to hold the gold so bring the gold to me and I'll be the banker "

This situation is a Jewish creation so they alone were the banking class.

>>513159519
uhhhh.....


no.

>>513155668
Thats bulshit. Jews could be craftsmen and traveling workers and many were. Those poeple asimilated because there is something detrimental to judaism in manual labor. Even Luther mentioned this.

>>513154142 (OP)
>Christians forced them to be money lenders
WOW I WONDER WHERE CHRISTIANITY COMES FROM

For the LORD your God will bless you as he has promised, and you will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. You will rule over many nations but none will rule over you. -Deuteronomy

>>513154142 (OP)
This fairy tale again. No sane person would toil in fields for meager subsistence when usery and coin clipping can make you rich. And having a well-corraled concentration of rich parasites to tax was exceedingly convenient to the King. The state was comiplicit in the robbery of the peasantry.
>it's because we weren't allowed
You people sprnd every waking minute lying. You probably lie in your sleep.
Expulsion and confiscation of all wealth and debts was a natural result of needing to finance a war thatl the exploited masses couldn't afford.

>>513154142 (OP)
>>513156718
Came to post this, lmao

>>513156605
Where did they get the money from before coming here? Why did the king want specifically them?

>>513160385
The Germanic peoples must have forgotten about it over the generations. But they are the true descendants of the Israelites regardless.

>>513154142 (OP)
>oy vey we were forced out of honest work
lol
lmao

>>513154142 (OP)
Because they were the most unscrupulous of them all, the Magna Carta even contains a clause forbidding Jewish moneylenders from collecting interest on heirs to debtors until they reach adulthood. I mean even Shakespeare wrote a play about how greedily they conducted themselves

>>513160014
That's cute did you right this up yourself? There is no source of where this is from or anything.

>>513160494
That is probably one of my favorite verses in the Bible. It shows that Israel(Germanics) will rule many nations through money lending. That is fucking cool! If you don't want that kind of power that is on you but that is the power Yahweh blesses his loyal nation Israel if they follow the commandments of Yahweh.

>>513160792
ahh yes that must be it. no it couldn't be that modern jews have the same traditions as ancient jews because they are genetically continued from them. no only a kikejeet would say that

wonder WHO wrote the (((laws))) ?

(((Christ))) is King!

>>513154142 (OP)
>"After imprisoning the whole Jewish population in his domain for criminal usury and debasing the coin of the realm, Edward, before releasing them, put into effect two new sets of laws: the first made it illegal for a Jew in England to lend money at interest. The second repealed all the standing laws which kept Jews from the normal pursuits of the kingdom. Under these new statutes Jews could even lease land for a period of fifteen years and work it. Edward advanced this as a test of the Jew’s sincerity when he claimed that all he wanted was an opportunity to work like other people. If they proved their fitness to live like other people, the inference was that Edward would let them buy land outright and admit them to the higher privileges of citizenship. Did the Jews take advantage of Edward’s decree? This way. To get around the laws against usury they invented such new methods of skinning the peasants and the nobles that the outcry against them became greater than ever, and Edward had to expel them to avert a civil war. It was not recorded that one Jew took advantage of the new right to till the soil."

>>513154142 (OP)
>jews HAD to money-lend
>no one would let them do any labor
Have you ever heard of a jew trying to do labor? No.
They lent money precisely because they *didn't* want to work

Yeah they were forced into controlling the wealth of nations. Sounds like horse shit to me

My Jewish ancestors left Eastern Europe for America and immediately got to work until they could afford to bring the whole family. Their work was ice and coal delivery. Then running a bakery. Then, when the chance to buy land arose, a chicken farm. This is what my ancestor did with his life from day 1, including a military service.

When my uncle asked him to show where they came from on a map, he refused, only saying "We left for a reason."

There was no hope for the Jews there. This was early 1900s. Imagine how much worse it must have been prior.

Napoleon on the other hand outlawed usury and integrated the Jews into the French empire. The issue was not the Jews. It was the ones making their lives shit that left them with limited options.

>>513154142 (OP)
>Jews could never make a country of thier own
>They had to parasitize every other country to survive!
Do you even hear yourself. Sage.

>>513161086
>I make a joke which highlights logical inconsistencies
>get asked for a source
>he misspelled the word "write"
> his face when

>>513161436
The Edomites masquerade as Israelites and read ancient Israelite scriptures and copy what they do. It doesn't make them real Israelites or real Jews. They are fakers.

>>513161862
Don't you feel sorry for them? They had to get wealthy and powerful by inventing new scams and were not allowed to work their asses of for pocket change like regular people. Such cruel fate.

>>513162506
Could you please tell me what it is that you see in Jacob that correlates with whites?
He pilpuls his brother and tricks his father. Hes willing to sacrifice his son Isaac, and his son Joseph was a crypto jew who invented usury.
In what way are jews the sons of Esau outside of "god says Esau is bad"

>>513161906
Shut up Kike. Jews have never had it as good as they do in America yet they still infiltrate our government and exfiltrate our tax dollars to use in their Greater Israel Plan. It’s always been the fucking Jews

>>513156718
>>513160624
same lol came to post this

>>513162765
We are currently in the Time of Jacob's Trouble. Which means we live in an anti-White age of White Genocide. The Edomite kikes want to exterminate all the sons of Jacob(Aryans.)

>>513163136
I see it more like Obadiah 1:18
>Jacob will be a fire and Joseph a flame; Esau will be stubble, and they will set him on fire and destroy him. There will be no survivors from Esau.” The LORD has spoken.
From this perspective, Jacob is the jews. And Jospeh is the son of Jacob who created a federal reserve system in Egypt to starve them and steal all of their gold. Its the same thing happening now.

>>513159831
Crete?

>>513154142 (OP)
I thought I heard this exact argument before.

>>513163377
You will never be a Jew, Edomite kike. Give it up. The Promise belongs to the Aryan race.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVOBlwiarMk&list=RDQVOBlwiarMk&start_radio=1

>>513164983
>Trickery
>pilpul
>usury
>human sacrifice
These are not Germanic virtues. Get a DNA test, name fag lmao
And ironically, the edomites gave their ba'al deity the name "kos" which is a former name for Odin. Not that Germans are actually edomites.
Anyways, eat shit and die name flag retard

>>513159519
>The Torah says you can lend to foreigners at interest but not your fellow Israelite.
this is why jesus got pissed and went into the temple to whip the usurers
they were lending to other jews

>>513154142 (OP)
You should see what they did with their farmland in Russia.
They got pissy when the Germans farmed it with no issue shining a light on their lies that it was bad land.
Turns out they would rather swindle.

>>513166062
>And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables;
>And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

They weren't usurers. Jesus was upset that the temple sacrifices were commodified.

>>513162765
Isaac is Abraham's son, not Jacob's

>>513169554
My bad, you're right. I get those rats confused

>>513154142 (OP)
>>513155020
>>513158337
>impossible to work and make money
>somehow has money to loan lots of money

>>513170822
>>513154142 (OP)
>>513155020
>>513158337
so where’d you get the money shlomo?

>>513154142 (OP)
>historically they basically had to in order to work at all.
Oy vey goyim, I must lend you these 20 shekels at 80% interest or else I will be forced to plant crops or learn how to thatch a roof! Whats that? You say usury is a sin?!! Fine you fucking nazi, i'll lower it to 40% interest if you agree to give me the tip of your newborn son's penis. But not a percentage less!

>>513164595
You have examples of pre-Christian Jewish usury?

>>513154142 (OP)
Anyone here actually read this?

>>513154142 (OP)
People have always feared being ruled by the merchants because the merchants never cared for any of their customs, traditions, or folklore. They had no traditional allegiances and therefore no loyalty in the eyes of the people. When you think about it that way a lot of other things make sense.

>>513157489
>wage work like we have now did not really exist.
The vast majority of people could not do the thing you're claiming Jews could not do. Those people still made a living. Please articulate why the Jews uniquely restorted to criminal blackmail, ritual murder of Christian children, and criminal usury. Please further articulate why a Jew is uniquely justified in doing this, keeping in mind that the vast majority of all human beings did not have the option of working land except as a laborer.

>>513155020
>and that was basically the only work at the time.
you're intentionally lying. Because you're a liar. Because you suck nigger dicks and guzzle nigger sperm.

>"but daaad I want to thresh grain!"
>"no little Moshe get back to the counting house!"
>this is what Jews actually believe

>>513171445
Babylon. Wheat and pork futures and shit

>>513154142 (OP)
>We hate these people so much we won’t let them work
>But we’ll let them control our money
You’d have to be retarded to believe this

>>513154142 (OP)
>actually believing this
Slowly, i began

>>513156718
>>513158535
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>>513162798
same lol also all me
im trans btw if that matters