Thread 513171033

I understand that the world doesn't have a conglomerate like Evil Corp, but why haven't we the people organized to undermine these oligarch pricks? If we take the place of our oppressors, you become them. Which is why I don't think outright mercing these pieces of shit will do anything. We need to nuke and pave the set of systems if you ask me.
Is there some sort of group(s) I'm unaware of? Shit is lame af, we need a real fsociety.
I've been out of the "game" for quite some time, and I don't know where to look anymore for shit to try and take part.

whatever happened to Anonymous? They used to be cool and did honorable shit.

>>513171033 (OP)
>memeflag
>doesn't have a conglomerate like Evil Corp
do better

>>513171033 (OP)
>If we take the place of our oppressors, you become them.
Separationism solves this.
Multicult is the problem.
/thread

>>513171033 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coV0t7IZZpw

>>513171033 (OP)
Mr Robot makes it look easy, since its a single target. In reality, E.Corp is a hydra with a thousand heads.

>>513171033 (OP)
What is Blackrock?

>>513171033 (OP)
1. Mr. Robot is le heckin fiction
2. Anyone with that capability is probably working for said corp
3. Even if they weren't they'd be raped out the ass if they tried
4. There is a high chance that anyone capable of this is either less intelligent than someone who is employed by said corp, or at the very least those employees are good enough to maintain security
5. People who hack in general are after money, so that means stealing data, not destroying systems
6. If they did exist you think you'd hear about it? You're a mega-normie compared to someone like that.

>>513171153
It really doesn't. I used that phrase in a nuanced manner, to which I'd happily expand upon. It is to my awareness that with every revolution that has occurred throughout history, those who have used means of violence, for example, are doomed to fill the same seats of those they brought down. Any society that strives to become more utopic is forever challenged to overcome adversities in a more civil and optimal manner.
We can't just assassinate people, and expect things to change.
We must revolt and adjust societal paradigms while not falling to the same methods as those who evidently eventually shift into lunacy. In my example, we cannot kill the ruling class as one primary issue is the constant justification and excuse for murder. So long as any people excuse murder, it will always be abused.

>>513171264
I'm aware that it makes it appear easier due to having a consolidated threat, however I still don't understand how there are targeted attacks on multinational or even national systems. I get that the it's akin to a Hydra, but even a hydra can be killed with proper planning and tactics.

>>513171365
Blackrock is certainly one of many organizations to be targeted. My question is where's our fsociety?

>>513171623
>but even a hydra can be killed with proper planning and tactics
And then what?
You ain't gonna take care of all the lemmings.

Proper anarchism in the year of our Lords is just fucking off the cities and living as independently as you can.

>>513171091
they're kinda busy in Ukraine right now
>>513171623
Wrong question.
The question is where's Edward Snowden?

>>513171537
1. Yes, thank you for iterating that the work of fiction is a work of fiction. So is 1984, and plenty of others. That does not mean they don't hold merit in their critiques.

2. Bold to assume that every person capable is. We simply cannot know that. I recognize many who used to partake now do, the traitor bastards.

3. Doubt, if you play your cards right.

4. Loop back to 2.

5. That's simply false, the majority may be, sure, however to say definitively that all are is absolutely absurd. There are plenty of people who do so purely for entertainment, or as a means of activism.

6. No shit sherlock, I've gone normie. I've already admitted that. Hence my questioning and expressed interest.


I understand this is 4chan, but can you try to pull your head out of your ass?

>>513171878
Truthfully, I selected the tag given the nature of the topic, though I would say if one must put a label on my varied beliefs that I would be "anarcho-socialist," or "anarcho-communist," but I'd use it loosely as it isn't entirely accurate.
I recognize that for proper anarchism to any degree it requires the populous to be intelligent and capable, which is not the reality that we exist in.
I also recognize that you cannot take dystopian people and expect them to be able to live within a utopia. It is a matter of progressively making we the people a more utopic people.

Great things come when men plants trees for shade not of their own.

>>513171091
Some say they went too mainstream, were arrested, were recruited, fucked off out of fear, grew up and moved on to other things, or the few that stayed are likely trying other things elsewhere.

>>513171888
I don't feel that Snowden is enough, though I like where your head is at.

>>513171623
>adjust societal paradigms
Yes, separating removes and minimizes conflicts between different groups. So either separate differing groups before a revolution, or after - just make sure you do it. We have borders and nations because they are valuable tools. We need to lean into those tools if we want prosperity for all groups.

>>513172198
>"anarcho-socialist," or "anarcho-communist"
Sounds like the anarchy part is just the means and not the end. Quite common it seems.

Its better to focus on individual capabilities, local manufacture, circular economy. Build up local communities. In short, 4th industrial revolution. Democratization of the means of production by making small scale production feasible.

>>513172499
That's absurd and only fuels the flame of divide and conquer. There needs to be a unification of the people.
I will not entertain the idea of sustaining dumb monkey shit. I advocate for the progression of humanity, to evolve into more than we are and have been. That is a core aspect in the political philosophy of progressivism.

>>513172634
I use the terms loosely by intent, as I do not think what is most ideal has been properly conceived just yet, at the very least it has not been given a proper label. Not that I enjoy the labels anyway, they tend to be rather reductionist given the nature of human language and it's current limitations.
Though I do support and advocate for the development and focus on individual capabilities, I do also for the operation and focus on the collective.
I do not pretend to have all of the answers, I am merely trying to ask questions given what evidently does not function properly.

>>513171960
Average "there is a chance so you're wrong" ass-level argument. Though I wouldnt expect anything higher from someone using a FagFlag

The worst we've seen is moderate disruption or theft, leakers and squealers, but anyone worth a shit probably has top-level security clearance or makes hundreds of thousands for the privilege.

Why dont you go do it? Better use of your time than posting here.

>>513171033 (OP)
Youre a boring faggot and a shit writer

>>513173155
>>513173158
"Don't feed the trolls"

>>513173307
Its fun, like sitting on a park bench tossing crumbs to ducks.

>>513172899
So should russia and China unify? Should they all mix together? Should they both completely destroy all the things that make them different?

I thought diversity was good but ok, youre saying "nope, destroy all diversity. We should all be identical"

>>513174040
I said there needs to be a unification of the people, as in the people of Earth. In no way, shape, or form had I said or implied that through unification there would be a loss of culture. That's simply idiotic.

>>513171537
>fiction

All those Kali downloads for nothing.

>>513174406
So remain separate, but unify, am i interpreting correctly? This is why unity slop verbiage always gives me an eye twitch . It sounds cute but the user never quantifies it, so it means basically nothing. Unify how? To what degree? By doing what? To what ends? Because complete unification means complete agreement, at a fundamental level. And complete agreement strongly implies cultural and even genetic differences - *all* the things which generate trust bonds within groups (commonalities - any and all).

>>513174767
"unity slop verbiage" If you are incapable of wrapping your head around such simple concepts, just admit such. Your reductionist and limited understanding is what means basically nothing. Your straw man fallacies are of no interest to me.
Unity while retaining the self is a common place occurrence on a myriad of degrees.

>>513174964
You cling to nebulous language, and fail to make coherent points. And not just with me - Whole thread reads that way. Youre a giant faggot.

>>513174500
>kali

Script Kiddies

>>513175151
I haven't any issues with expanding on my views and beliefs. I simply have no interest in your reductionist bullshit.
Go eat a dick, faggot, I know you crave it.

>>513171033 (OP)
Seriously.
We go squat an abandoned town, declare ourselves sovereign, issue currency, etc.

>>513171033 (OP)
> I understand that the world doesn't have a conglomerate like Evil Corp, but why haven't we the people organized to undermine these oligarch pricks?

We have, it's called the nazis

>>513175295
That does nothing, nor is it defensible. You (we) cannot simply run away from all of this and expect that to be any sort of solution.

create or destroy

if you can`t destroy something, create something to replace it

>>513175255
>reductionist bullshit.
You couldnt directly address another person's policy breakdown. You used nebulous "neither here nor there" language in your responses - trying to weasel your way around the facts of the matter. All there is to it. Using cute insults - also pointing to nothing at all, completely nebulous.

>>513175430
I enjoy this notion, and you've piqued my interest. Care to elaborate on what you have in mind?

>>513171033 (OP)
The coolest projects I know of right now are chaumian ecash and nostr.

Don't think they'll blow up in popularity anytime soon, but they are self hosted ways to offer banking and social media in a redundant decentralized way.

>>513175486
Yes. it is reductionist bullshit. You have done nothing beyond trying to distort and misrepresent my views in order to make it easier for you to attack, while also refuting anything regarding the original concept. That is the definition of a straw man fallacy.
You also project your inability to articulate and understand the matter, without inquiring appropriately. I will not entertain your (loaded) questions while you do any of this.
Don't attempt to call my language use nebulous when you're clearly incapable of having a proper discussion in the first place. Go jerk yourself off somewhere else, the grown ups would like to try to have a proper discussion.

>>513175545
well the issue is we are currently governed by systems that utilize blackmail, bribes, and threats to undermine democracy and control the world from a centralized place in the shadows. so any alternative system has to address this flaw.

what if we could watch our politicians shitting on the toilet. i am talking absolute total transparency. a reverse surveillance state where the people watch the government. no secret meetings, no closed doors. they like to say nothing to hide nothing to fear so lets watch them on the toilet to be sure they`re not getting orders from someone else. lets watch them and make sure they are doing the job and not others in some deep state. every email, every phonecall transparent. giving up all privacy just the cost of power. if they turn off the livestream to fuck their wife or whatever too bad, he`s out of office. anything short of that and democracy isn`t possible. of course we will also be scanning for any secret messages he may have been trained to receive, ai can scan for any patterns that may be an external party attempting to pass on marching orders.

the only part thats realistic about mr robot plot is the economic disaster thats unfolding during s1 when the power grid is randomly shutting off and people are having to use alternative digital payment methods because traditional banking systems are fucked

>>513175652
Admittedly, I will have to familiarize myself with these before I can respond accordingly. Though I am vaguely aware of Chaum's efforts, give the previous "booms," so-to-speak, on the topic of crypto.
Thank you for your input, anon.

>>513175864
Look, China and Russia is 1 example of hundreds. Borders work. Nations work. Amicable relationships are carried forward. Peace is known while groups are afforded the real estate - both geographical and governmental - to practice their own things. That is a foundation upon which culture etc founts from. Can we agree on that much?

You need to ask yourself what is needed for D&C tactics to succeed. There is no D&C between USA and Peru, right? Not really... what nefarious ends would that lead to? They are separate. Separating is healthy and natural. But 2 groups within the SAME geography and governance, ahh - there you can have effective D&C. Get it?

>>513175980
Governments will shut off these services when they're threatened so it's good to look at alternative forms of communication.

There's some research and apps looking into bluetooth meshnet, HAM radio, and directed wifi that'll offer a way to chat and send money.
The problem with sending digital money though is the receiver needs to have an internet connection or trust the sender to not get double spent.
Communication is fine though having chats going through radio is based.

>>513176089
David Chaum's patent expired recently and there's a lot of development to put that system on bitcoin.

It's still very experimental, but the end goal is to have a user experience so simple any retard with a smartphone can use it.
The people who operate these mints need to figure out server redundancy for backups, and need to zig and zag around running a service without a money transmittal license.

When shit gets bad enough, the software gets good enough, and people are willing to take risks it'll start to grow more.

>>513175970
I feel as if I've heard something similar to this before. It's an interesting notion, for sure, as they are civil servants. Though I must admit I do worry about the loss of oneself in such a position you've proposed. I would say it would be important that any individual retains at least some degree of the self in any sort of position. Then again, they are "becoming" something more than just the self, as they have taken on a sort of identity that is to server the people.
I am curious to how this ties into what you previous stated though, as this doesn't seem to strictly be a matter of creation instead of destruction. If you have anything you'd like to add in any regard, I'd be happy to hear it.

>>513171033 (OP)
poltards dont even understand the very basics of politics - you have to organize people
but everyone here is too asocial

>>513171091
>>513171033 (OP)
yeah its long overdue

multiple Luigi's need to be deployed ASAP. note these shooter incidents never occur to the right people.

>>513171091
I think the corporatization and glowification of the internet has had a chilling effect on that sort of old-school vigilantism and internet raid culture.
I remember anons back then used to regularly take hosts down using LOIC, and everything would be planned and coordinated on /b/ (previously /i/ before it got shut down).
Now you obviously can't do that on here without the thread getting instantly pruned and getting banned, and if you did manage to pull it off, glowniggers would actually bother to backtrace people's IPs and arrest them in this day and age.
There were a few high-profile busts like the lulzsec bust which were basically a few script kiddies. That's what teenagers did with computers back in the early 00s. You would find ways to hack and crack everything you find online. Whether it's video games or web services or whatever else. Now they're too afraid to do that because they know they'll likely get arrested and go to prison for 15+ years for fucking with a corporation's profits, unless their opsec is impeccable to really get away with it.

>>513176294
Oh that does sound quite nice, I must admit. As much as I advocate for progressively raising the bar for all people(s) to be informed and capable in any, preferably every, regard, I understand that isn't feasible. So creating systems that are easy to use for the commoner is crucial, as well as is indicative of good design in any field.
Have you anything you'd like to suggest I look into in particular? Not that I expect you to spoon feed me information, I can look into things on my own. Evidently this is something of interest to you, and I want to allow for you to express any information that you see as relevant or pertinent.

>>513171033 (OP)
Because anyone organizing this isn't stupid enough to do it in the wide-open, dipshit.

>>513176409
they`re only in office for a few years. its about using the panopticon effect, knowing they are being watched at all times isn`t psychologically healthy but thats what they already do to us our entire lives. my phone is probably listening to me talk to my cat right now.

its creating an alternative system. rather than focusing on destroying the people currently in power, which as you`ve pointed out won`t change anything if the systems they used and their inherent flaws remain intact.

but in my initial post i was kind of referring to something else. a decentralized parallel system that takes on the functions of government. but i wouldnt know where to begin on that. and one of the critical functions of government is upholding the law which is illegal if you`re not the government. so maybe any parallel systems starts on what it can do legally first. i dunno the details im just making this up as i go along.

>>513176529
Yes, it is quite befuddling to deal with. Though I will admit that many aspects of general human interaction perplex me. It's not as if I am some sort of beacon or shining example of perfect social capability, such isn't to be expected from any individual, let alone those with varying neurotypes. It is frustrating at times though that others seemingly cannot see beyond that, and their own limitations, in pursuit of something greater. I speak on this broadly, not just those who reside on this board.
Truthfully, this is the first time I've touched 4chan in roughly a decade.
>inb4 summerfag

The people who use this board now want to be ruled by elites who have as much power as possible, they like the oligarchy, they just don't want it to be multicultural.

>>513176851
I'm getting a lot of my information from citadel dispatch podcast, nostr protocol (I use primal app), and just casually reading about new developments in the bitcoin space.

To be honest I'm pretty burned out on that and not an expert, but every couple weeks something new blows my mind on its potential.

Like Jack Dorsey's bitchat app didn't really scale due to bitcoin's inherent limitations on transactions so a developer calle introduced the ecash to bitchat.
Ecash isn't purely bitcoin it's like a bitcoin credit union where there are some trust concerns, but building reputation and offering products not possible yet shows potential for it.

>>513175864
>>513176142
So "im totally a big boy grownup now" anon, here's what you weaseled your way out of. Its elementary tier stuff.
>>513172899
This was a reddit tier, 100% nebulous response. It meant nothing at all. It was your escape hatch. Your dodge. Your flippant dismissal.

And you do that a LOT.
You like to fill the air with a bunch of garbage noise that helps you avoid and distract from the evidences set before you.
Hardly what I would classify as intellectual, or on a level of adulthood maturity.

>>513177060
It's gotten really bad here in just the last few years. It was questionable enough, but then LLMs...

>>513176617
As much as I do appreciate your tenacity and spirit, I do not think that terminating these undesirables will do much of anything. Others will take their place, if not us, and we will do the same things. I believe that these issues are merely manifestations of underlying issues in our culture. In the case of murder, so long as it is justified it will always be abused. All throughout history there have been all manners of revolt, both violent and nonviolent, to varying degrees. I feel as if I see a pattern in that those who kill their kings are doomed to fill their throne, it is only a matter of time. The continued use of excuses made to end human life will only be manipulated, we must overcome these undesirable circumstances while striving to be the most civil we can be.

>>513171091

Anonymous was created as a way for the Feds to rally you retards publicly with plausible deniability. Started as a psyop over cats, then officially tested on Scientology by handing out LOIC to a bunch of retarded kids who wanted to be elite hackers but really just were copy and pasting an ip and pressing “go”. All publically massive “anonymous” accounts are either run by glowies or tech retards like Musk, not even kidding

>>513176857
No need for the unwarranted hostility, anon. I'm well aware that general organization isn't going to occur on such easily viewed boards such as 4chan. This isn't 2005.

>>513171033 (OP)
I was going to hack the Gibson, but then I got paid a bunch of money and my course has been altered.

>>513176931
>being watched at all times isn`t psychologically healthy but thats what they already do to us our entire lives
Valid point, and I can't argue the potential in having such a panoptic system with officials that are routinely exchanged isn't a compelling though. Though I do worry for efficiency, it's not as if I support lengthy terms for any manner of elected official.

I thank you for your input and humility on the matter, anon. You've given me more to think about and consider, and that is invaluable.

>>513177093
Yes, it unfortunately seems that /pol/ has taken quite a turn in my absence. Not that 4chan has always been home to the most desirable individuals. I do see what you mean in other threads.

>>513177093
no we just don`t see the solutions you`re offering (communism) as viable. and because you think the only alternative to capitalism is communism you think we must want all the oligarch elites and stuff. no, and we think communism if anything would merely empower oligarchs as it historically has. you`re very simple minded if you think capitalism being bad means communism must be good, its just another bad. oligarchs thrive under communism as well.

as for multicultural shit, we`re being replaced in our own countries. immigration should be done as it was in the past, with an eye towards maintaining demographic balance. erode a culture with unlimited multiculture and you dont have a people or a proper country anymore. take it from me, id know, im canadian. also read pic related.

but this is all too complex for you im sure so you`ll go back to your simple minded communism and strawmanning the rest of us as a bunch of stupid racist oligarch bootlickers.

>but i didnt mention communism
i hear you about to say. you didnt have to
>so fighting oligarchs and feeding people looks like communism to you
i can imagine you saying instead to which i say fuck off and reread what i wrote and try to understand it without reducing it to something retarded

>>513177135
We are animals just like any other, and despite my proponent nature regarding continual development and improvement, we must rest. I thank you for the information that you have provided, your insight is valued.
I will put in the effort to familiarize myself with this information that you have brought up.

>>513177734
Yeah dude check it out, don't let the sperg nerds bug you if they're not helpful.

>>513171091
Pwople always say the OGs either moved on, an heroed, or were headhunted by glowies for their talent and went legit. Having a recognizable name and an image is not actually something an anonymous hacktivist collective actually wants. Even calling the old dudes hacktivists is kind of questionable honestly. Identities are something you kind of have to discard by necessity to do that sort of thing. I could be wrong but as I understand it having stolen identities that necessitate real world leg work, communication, and verification to unravel to work with is kind of essential to covering your tracks these days. I cant say if it's a hoeny pot, larpers, or what but I don't think anyone using the name now is legit becuase it's like a big neon sign saying notice me sempai which flys in the face of the whole idea.

>>513177060
I will say even more - every regime wants to keep people atomized and disorganized, if you try to start any real grassroots movement - be it a union or a simple local community with any significance - you get infiltrated and subverted,
even sportsball fan orgs got infiltrated cause they unite young men capable of action and violence
so yes if you start anything political hoping to change the situation even in your local town - the feds will target you

>>513176661
Hacks still happen you should read about teenagers that hacked rockstar, nvidia and Samsung. But since 2022 theres been barely any big ones other than 350 million dollar bitcoin heist in UK.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapsus$

>>513177670
Oh boy, Aristotle mentioned. (I don't mean this with any sort of mocking or demeaning tone, I enjoy Aristotle)
I think that multi-ethnic societies can be democratic, despite their inherit chaos, given that those within the given system identify their philia to be beyond just themselves and "typical" means. I see it as a matter of recognizing that despite our differences, we are all of the same kind. Just as one may see their siblings, or even cousins, as their family and thus a level of extension of oneself, despite the differences one may observe, especially when looking further out in their familial tree; so to can one see non-homogeneous ethnic groups as family.
I view it as a matter of perspective, as despite our attempts to maintain these truly nonexistent borders, we are all unanimous and connected. Just as one may think that in how we are all unique, that no one is unique for being unique. Pardon my poor articulation on my thoughts, but does that make sense?

>>513178106
and of course every real hacker gets targeted and compelled to cooperate/work for the feds

>>513177093
Holy pilpul. How about we follow the original intention of America. No multicult + no oligarchy / small govt / anti-trust preventing oligarchy, promoting a healthy market.

What makes you think /pol/ likes oligarchy? There appeared to be no basis for that claim you made.

This thread's so full of jewish homosexuality.
Fucking lol

>>513171033 (OP)
Commies. You are asking about commies. Yes they exist and they are clueless like you so you’ll fit in as long as you love gays and hate food.

>>513171033 (OP)
> show starts off following an antisocial hacker who gets caught up in a group of other hackers who want to fuck with not!google
> eventually turns into a show about a chinese tranny politician who is trying to build a teleporter that will take him to a universe where he was born a woman
> also it turns out that the main character's dad was a tyler durden and the main character himself wasn't even real the entire time

That show was fucking retarded

>>513178461
Slow down there bud, I didn't realize it was 1917.
I certainly wouldn't call myself a communist, and I don't appreciate you attempting to reduce me as such. Though I doubt you care. Unclench dude.

>>513178106
Yes, this is certainly true. Which does complicate organization and class action. though, I have faith the collective consciousness will continue to evolve despite the efforts to thwart it. It's only a matter of time.
I do not desire action for my own gain, but for the gain of us all, current and those to come.

>>513171091
Anonymous was never an organised group, it happened when it happened because reprehensible shit demands that consequences never be the same. The concept of anonymous was hijacked by jewish interest groups who turned it into another "advocacy" movement. I was present when this happened, around about the time of Kony 2012, Anonymous became Soros corporation stooges hijacking a good idea and polluting it with jewish evil. As a result, nobody of any consequence wants to associate themselves with anonymous any more.

>>513178461
The neoreligion of jewish tolerance.

>>513171033 (OP)
who's gonna be Elliot?

>>513178320
>does that make sense?
nope

human nature is rooted in biology. its not something that can or should be "corrected" with perspective. people are just going to mesh better with other people who look like them. it is how we have been for probably 300 thousand years and its just not going to change in this millenia or the next.

we can live in a multicultural society but only within reason. there needs to be a dominant ethnic group to which newcomers of other cultures adopt to and ideally most of the newcomers are from compatible cultures to facilitate this.

what we have now is a free for all of unlimited immigration and mostly from people far too alien from us who break off into their own cultures and dont contribute to national unity or a sense of having "a people".

>>513178514
The Elliot who we started with was an identity he created through his DID, while "Mr Robot" is more in line with who he actually is. Though it manifests in a visual way replicating his father, given the past traumas and how they're relevant to the plotline.
I'll admit I didn't like the tranny insert, it felt more like forced inclusivity to try to drive a point about identity, which didn't seem entirely necessary. Though I can't harp on a studio trying to insert things of current relevance, it is to be expected to a degree.

It seems like you struggled with understanding and thus appreciating the show overall, which is fine I suppose. It's not for everyone. Though I do think it has value in it's critiques.

>>513171033 (OP)
Should've lurked for a few years

>>513178787
>The Elliot who we started with was an identity he created through his DID, while "Mr Robot" is more in line with who he actually is. Though it manifests in a visual way replicating his father, given the past traumas and how they're relevant to the plotline.
>I'll admit I didn't like the tranny insert, it felt more like forced inclusivity to try to drive a point about identity, which didn't seem entirely necessary. Though I can't harp on a studio trying to insert things of current relevance, it is to be expected to a degree.
>It seems like you struggled with understanding and thus appreciating the show overall, which is fine I suppose. It's not for everyone. Though I do think it has value in it's critiques.
Reddit: the post

If you haven't noticed....

>>513171033 (OP)
>not guy fawkes mask cringe social justice faggotry

>>513171091
kill yourself, newfag

>>513178641
it's always some fagstralian newfag talking shit that doesn't know anything about anything. you people genuinely are the worst

>>513171033 (OP)
The only way to destroy them is to make them poor.

>>513178782
Then I apologize for my subpar elaboration. Again, I'm not always the best at articulating the concepts I have in my head. Such comes with my neurotype, but I digress.

Yes, human nature is rooted in biology, as we are biological beings. However, we have long since passed any point of living as just an individual. Consciousness is undeniably something we all share collectively. Just like our biology, it will continue to evolve over time. It's not a matter of "correction" it is a matter of evolution.
We are all the same, just as I tried to make the point in that we may be unique, but if we are all unique we are not unique for being unique. Us all being unique is itself uniform. All humans exists upon a spectrum of the psyche. Despite these variances, the fact that we vary in such manners is a means of uniformity amongst us.

I simply disagree that there needs to be a dominant ethnic group ruling, in which others must adopt. I would hear you out if it was a matter of social paradigms changing and being adopted, as that is realistically what varies the most and is what is adopted when people combine.


We are undeniably all family, that is how we're all the same species. It is merely a matter of how far removed we are from the trunk of our familial tree.

>>513178854
Reddit is for fags

>>513179065
So Aaron and Zuckerberg started the idea for the website Facebook tobbaco barn in Davidson-ville Md.

Aaron is the original Anonymous.

Irgun a right wing zonist terroist group responsible for the bombing of the king david hotel.
We do not forgive We do not forget.
That was there fucking motto.

>>513178961
Call me crazy, but Luigi wasn't even the shooter. dude has an entirely different facial structure and there are far too many inconsistencies in "evidence." Just seems like a random fall guy if you ask me. Seemed like they pinned it on someone so that way it didn't seem like they were weak or incapable of finding the person responsible, to try to put down any attempts of it in the future. Though I'll admit this is largely speculative conjecture.

>>513171033 (OP)
Anarchists only organize to fight on the oligarchs behalf, just look at antifa

>>513179253
Paint monopoly and Ritual misery.

Is the phrase you where looking for.

>>513179100
Then someone else will take their place eventually. The only way to destroy them is to destroy what allows them to become them.
You cannot have freedom from class while still retaining class.

>>513179304
I don't follow, is that an attempt to reference Metallica? Apologies if this is apparent to you, it isn't for me for whatever reason.
I'm rather sleep deprived.

>>513178320
>I am post racial and open minded, that means everyone else must be naturally or forced into submission along with me
try explaining that to every tribe on earth and see how likely they are to join you. the only reason the multicultural horde is rising is to destroy the power of whites collectively because no one tribe can do it alone. you are fighting the jews war without being aware and somehow you think you're going to take down the jews without even knowing they're in power over you.

>>513179316
You should be nicer to your imaginary friend Elliot Zuckerberg.

>>513171960
whatever you do. don't stop posting this. these losers on this site will try and demoralize you but a post and message like yours is very..very necessary. Everyone wants drastic change like this ..or for something to happen to initiate something, but nobody is talking about it and nobody will put their foot down. You need to post it in other places.


unless you're using a memeflag because you're a glowie trying to get intel to try and prevent the very thing youre advocating for.

>>513179136
yes yes, we are all the same species. and we can get along just fine but not all meshed together ignoring all cultural and ethnic differences as if they didn`t matter. they do matter, and they`re a good thing. variety is the spice of life, and to maintain variety different people from different cultures with different ethnicities should live in different cultures where they can enjoy the kind of lives they want to live. blend everyone together and assume we are all blank slates that can adapt to some global monoculture is anti-human. blending in to become all one race is frankly racist, as in you don`t want those races and their unique differences to exist anymore.

we are biologically rooted in recognizing people who look like us as being, well, us. thats not a collective consciousness thing that instincts built into our brains, into our wiring, over hundreds of thousands of years. there is no overwriting that with some high minded philosophy. its just who and what we are. it doesnt mean we cant incorporate other races and cultures into our own but it does mean we need to have some moderation about it or all sense of national unity falls apart. which leaves us atomized and alone and incapable of collective action or high trust society. we are seeing this play out now, the unlimited multicultural experiment has been tried, it failed.

>>513179136
>I'm not always the best at articulating the concepts I have in my head
you're not as intelligent as you think you are.

>>513179386
As I've stated previously, I do not expect to take the dystopian populous to exist within a utopia. It is a matter of putting forth effort in progressing, as stagnation is death.

>>513179253
oh for sure, eyebrows didnt even match. but it was important for them they at least pretend they caught the guy or else there would be more people thinking they could get away with it.

>>513179384
Paint monopoly and Ritual misery.

We paint wild roses red each shade from a different person's head.
This dream is a killer.

Money Money Money Money Money Money Money Money Money.

Where did he go?

>>513179465
>a glowie trying to get intel to try and prevent the very thing youre advocating for.
that was my first thought reading the op. its quite plausible. but also i doubt they will learn shit from this thread. if we knew how to overturn the establishment we would have done it already.

>>513171033 (OP)
>but why haven't we the people organized to undermine these oligarch pricks
As triggering as it might sound, the Jews are right when they consider goyim cattle. And as depressing as it is to admit, the Jews and elites are competent masters, all things considered. As long as people are fed, sheltered, and entertained, you won't find content cattle trying to buck the comfy farm. I'm not condoning the clown world, I'm just stating why it is

>>513179465
Not that it would mean anything if I were a glowie, but fuck that shit man. I just want humanity to progress. I despise how much insincerity there is in the world. But hey, what can you expect from someone who's turbo autismo?

I enjoy conversation and contemplation in general, and believe in the evolution of man.

Let it be known, they can send all of thee glowies they want, humanity will progress and evolve so long as we live and breathe. I don't care if it's in my lifetime, I don't expect it to be. It doesn't matter if it's 100 years down the line, or 500 years down the line.

>>513179517
Exactly. Eyebrows are off, nose is off, jawline is off. The jacket was dumped but it was called in because he was wearing a similar jacket. Shit is all sorts of sideways.

>>513179605
Angery people that where handed everything in life for free turned 21 and where told to try those ideas on your own that want to destroy everything because it's not handed to them for free.

Then there are people that are treated as less then shit for saving the nation from ruin.

Carr Aaron recovred the missing keys for the nuclear football under William Clintion.

>>513179526
If you're trying to quote Metallica, I'm pretty sure it's "pain monopoly, ritual misery"
I apologize for my lack of understanding, however I need you to be a tad less cryptic and more apparent with what you're trying to communicate. I'm fuckin retarded, but wish to hear you out.

>>513179768
You know the a Red herring is a cule to throw some one off.

Your still over thinking it.

The point was always to cause enough confusion to get away.

>>513179647
Admittedly I'm not a fan of the whole "fuckin Jews" rhetoric that has always been so present on 4chan, despite my recognition for zionist pigs that have and do orchestrate a lot, and how the same sentiment existed prior to the 19th century, as well as being an anti-theist myself. The latter of which I aim to be in a respectful but pressing manner. Either way, I see what you're saying. Though it simply doesn't make sense to me. I've come to the conclusion that things of this nature perplex me given my flavor of autism, to which I was diagnosed with as an adult. I know that me admitting to being autistic will likely cause for others to use it to discredit my points, or existence. Such as been a thing I've dealt with anyway for many years. Once more, I digress.
Existing in such a way simply does not make sense to me. How can one not look on into the world with wonder and inquiry? How can one not look out into existence and not crave understanding of the ineffable, despite knowing we are incapable? How can one not seek out understanding in whatever chains may hold them? I have contemplated this long long before any ventures I've made into psychedelia in an academic and articulated format.

It like gorilla warfare.

You put your socks over your boots to hide a Aggressive boot tread so they don't know troops are in the area.

I don't know anything about stuff like that.

>>513177221
You're right, but things are starting to feel like we are too close to the point of no return and not a single person has seemed to step forward in any way to make any real attempt to really do anything at all. People arent even doing what youre doing right now. They wont even exchange ideas about it. Sure you cant fully organize right out in the open - but if you're doing it somewhere secret, how will anyone know? Its almost like a paradox. What's the answer? People just wish for CEO killers because it seems quick, easy and doesn't actually involve them. You're right though.

But for every 1 person who actually DOES try to initiate something, even if its just a conversation, you have 20 demoralizers. So whoever decides they're going to advocate for something.. they are going to have to be very persistant.

>>513180107
I can't tell if you're deliberately being cryptic in order to impart what you see as wisdom in a manner to be discredited by those who concern you, or if you're just schizo posting man.
I'm really trying here, but again, I'm fuckin retarded.

>>513180171
100% real tactic.
It's in the manual.

Hell so many of us where killed they told us to go in the woods and use SOP hand signs to make Bigfoot prints for therapy.

>>513179465
By the way, thank you for saying that the message I'm trying to convey is necessary. I try not to live by means of approval from others, but I am a human just like any other. I've let far too much from others taint my mind and soul, causing me to fall in line or retreat. I am trying to do better, to be better. For myself, and those I care about (not just those around me, but all people). So I appreciate it.
This whole thing is a sort of experiment, I suppose one could call it. Or perhaps an outreach in attempts to test the waters? I'm not sure.

>>513180240
I see, I've descended into levels of normalcy I'm not the most proud of, so pardon my difficulty.

I must admit, it saddens me that we must go to such means in order to convey things. Oh how I wish the world were a better place for sincerity overall. I wish it were feasible to plainly convey things at all times, but so often there's someone we must be paranoid of. It weighs on my soul.

>>513180455
That's the thing no words will ever explain it to a normal civilian and we don't want the pitty party because we made it out better then most.

>>513180340
Yeah. I get it. Believe me .. I do.

I've even tried leaving little hints at things all over .. hoping the right person may see it. a small catalyst maybe. Because obviously you can't say too much, and you can't say it too too clearly .. but yeah. It's incredibly necessary. People definitely want it. They want to do something. But some cant handle the downers and the shills and others just don't know and/or they're too afraid, but people definitely want it. I think even normies understand that the political division was sewn on purpose over the past few years. They seem to understand that .. at least right now.. left and right arent a thing. Theres rich zio assholes aka the 1%, and everyone else, and we will just continue to suffer regardless of our "political affiliation" while those other assholes benefit. The way all this internet censorship is rolling out in so many different countries all within the same week tells me we are running out of time to talk about it. It may be risky to discuss so openly but .. what else can a person do? Soon we wont be able to discuss it at all, much less organize..


at least thats how it feels to me.

You get all choked up to they way the media conveys the events.

Thumbs up bla bla good feelings hero.

What he realy said was up your fucking do it already.

Bigfoot.

>>513180166
I know the feeling that we are quickly approaching a point of no return, and that no one is stepping forward. Though I feel as if such is deliberate, because if we respond by means of violence especially to the extent of murder, it will either be used to discredit the movement or justification for violent retaliation (as we've seen regarding Luigi).
Just as they use psychological tactics such as an overwhelming threat of doom in nuclear mutually assured destruction. But I believe it's nonsense as fear itself is a powerful tool in the wrong hands.

I hold on to hope, as the act of doing so itself is an act of revolt. At the very least, I will persist.
I reiterate, I do not pretend to have all of the answers. However, I will ask questions and try to figure things out. I'm trying to do better about including others in that, as that's who it's all for.

This is good content.

>>513171033 (OP)
It is very simple, we all want to be oligarchs (or at least be able to delude ourselves into believing we could be one) and then we want to live exactly as they do now.

>>513180638
I have the conviction that no one can take me, not easily. I'll sooner gnaw off my own arm to use my bones as a weapon before I let someone else take me out.
I am finding means of fostering such a flame, and using it.

>>513179647
>As triggering as it might sound, the Jews are right when they consider goyim cattle. And as depressing as it is to admit, the Jews and elites are competent masters, all things considered.
They seemed that way for a while, and everyone went along with it, because life was generally good in the latter half of the 20th century. People had plenty. People were optimistic about the future. Even though society had its problems, they didn't seem insurmountable.
Now, pretty much every young person is noticing that they're fucked, that we have no future under this system. They're failing to placate the people any longer. They're losing their grip over the narratives too, I think.
They're going to crack down hard, and it's going to bring us a lot of pain. But it's ultimately because they're becoming more desperate.
Jews seem to have this recurring pattern throughout history where they overextend and then get btfo by their own golems.

>>513180722
I admire your means cryptography lmao

>>513180638
true, we might be on the clock as far as even being able to communicate goes. having to sign in with a government id to talk is going to have a real chilling effect on free speech, by design of course. maybe we need our own internet, something that can`t be taken down. i don`t have the tech know how for that, maybe mesh internet but that seems somewhat limited. chicken and egg sorta thing where it doesnt work well unless a lot of people are doing it and people wont do it unless it works well. but it needs many devices to work. and most of our devices are smartphones, which are compromised. surely we could at least get a text forum working by mesh? maybe thats already a thing? all the cpus backdoored out the ass though probably shit.

i put this text on a picture of a horse. i hope that helps. not much else i can do

>>513180874
Oh yes Jewish mortality and beliefs 100,000 non jews should die for the cost of 1 kike tear.

I'd trake 50 kikes for a horse.

>>513180638
Their threats of violence are merely back up plans, to help fuel their machines of psychological manipulation of the population. Long since has passed the days of old, where simple mental warfare has been used. Truly, now we deal with the battlefields of our minds and souls. They shackle us not by iron, but by paradigm.

>>513171033 (OP)
F society didn't post on pol about their plans and they had multiple insiders, including company executives, organized criminals, and the ccp

>>513180874
power is physically addictive, thats been studied on mri machines, same effect on the brain as cocaine.

and so, like all addictions, they build up a tolerance and have to seize more and more power until its more then they can handle and civilization grinds to a halt unable to function under power junkies that need to go to increasingly draconian lengths to get their fix.

>>513180874
It is only a matter of time before their grip on us crumbles, such is the cycle of tyrants. Unfortunately, many lives will be lost as they try to maintain it.

>>513171033 (OP)
Russia + America will unite and save humanity, Western Europe is the source of all evil, they will be put in check

>>513180949
>true, we might be on the clock as far as even being able to communicate goes. having to sign in with a government id to talk is going to have a real chilling effect on free speech, by design of course. maybe we need our own internet, something that can`t be taken down. i don`t have the tech know how for that, maybe mesh internet but that seems somewhat limited.
The tech exists to create a less censored, more p2p internet. Like, Tor onionland, i2p, etc. People on here and other glownigger honeypots decry these systems as being honeypots themselves, but the people using these systems continue to just do whatever the fuck they want without adhering to the censorship that's overtaking the clearnet

>>513181042
Yes, but I am no Elliot. I also fear no man or group of men. I am a man who inquires, and for them to be threatened by such is only further a display of their growing weakness.

>>513181072
Yes, I believe that our current rulers are not only addicted to power itself, but also the sick high that comes with being needlessly cruel and sadistic simply for the sake of it. The current crop of elites are complete psychopaths who hate humanity

Any truth has been outlawed.

About 6 million Germans POWs died in death camps after the end of the war.

Then the jews in the media news and entertainment spread their lies.

>>513181072
>power is physically addictive, thats been studied
It is both saddening and sickening that such is true.

>>513181177
>but also the sick high that comes with being needlessly cruel and sadistic simply for the sake of it
Ain't that the truth

>>513181112
>The tech exists to create a less censored, more p2p internet.
Shit needs more traction and proper execution.


Though I understand the unrelenting rage one may feel towards this individuals committing these atrocities, I feel pity. For these men are what I see as family as well. With my perception that all of us are family, it comes with the good and the bad. To which it truly breaks my heart to see such suffering, on all ends. I do not think the resolution will come from hugs and kisses, fuck the hippy dippy bullshit, though I see the only solution being us collectively acting more out of love for one another.

"I was hacked my time traveling nazis"

Gork

>>513180821

Just know that this anon exists out in the world somewhere, and you will always have my support.

>>513175430
If you can’t destroy something, you didn’t create something either. You cannot destroy ideas. So there are no new ideas relative to the environment you’re in.

You’re in a false dichotomy of thought, referring to dualism to make judgements based on what is, without knowing what isn’t and pretending like your sophistry isn’t just vanity.

People want to be that guy that only come around at collage finals to sell Adderall.
We all know what he's doing and no one gives a fuck.

>>513181499
Thank you anon, I appreciate that.
I hope one day within my future publications, if you see them, that you can recognize congruencies in what I talk about and how it is I talk about them. For I won't break the anonymity here. Though I assure you, I will not stay silent any longer.

"Those who kill their kings are doomed to fill their thrones. Therefore we must destroy their thrones." is my reformatting of Bakunin, to which I have yet to have seen elsewhere. Perhaps it may proliferate merely by me posting it here, but if not, it may be a future identifier.

>>513181014
Totally agree.

I also think that suggesting sometbing simple like a violent response or to "Luigi' someone often serves as a generic way to signal something. "Im afraid and desperate, we need an extreme action!" .. People don't always truly feel like they just want someone to go stab Zuckerburg to death - they just know shit is about to hit the fan and something drastic has to happen. We can't vote our way out of this.
Maybe they haven't fully realized what exactly theyre feeling, or maybe they just don't know how to articulate it. It's just easier for some people..and I actually think it's currently a really easy way to show you're open to something more, without saying it.

Im falling asleep actually so maybe that didnt make sense!


Anyway. Seriously. Don't let this die. Maybe ill run across you somewhere else online.

>>513171623
>we cannot kill the heckin' ruling class
Hahaha boy are you in for a surprise

>>513181720
I was friends with Marcous King I hate that Zuckerberg guy.

Now the president telling you he does not exist.

>>513181409
>Shit needs more traction and proper execution.
You know the thing about these anonymity networks is they grow stronger the more people use them. The anonymity set grows bigger, the more normalized it becomes, the harder they become to shut down. The only way for them to shut down SOME of it is for them to shut down ALL of it, which they don't want to do except as a very last resort, because they themselves rely on it too much.
A lot of the technological sacrifices people make in the name of convenience make it easier for our rulers to exert power over us.... and they pay to propagandize. To tell you that trying to escape this is futile, and makes you a stupid loser.

>>513181624
>and pretending like your sophistry isn’t just vanity.
i think that`s what you`re doing. i`m just saying if we can`t destroy the system then we make a new system and move over to that.

>If you can’t destroy something, you didn’t create something either
meaningless. i couldnt destroy my ugly wallpaper (rental unit) so i created some art and hung it on the walls.
>you cannot destroy ideas
never said anything about that
>So there are no new ideas relative to the environment you’re in.
what the fuck does that even mean. as in every idea has already been thought of? ok well who cares. much has been forgotten and lost. also i dont even believe thats true. new ideas happen as things and events change in unpredictable ways. someone thought of the idea of using high fructose corn syrup in soda, terrible idea but it was a new idea at the time

not even going to address the rest of what you said, just more meaningless sophistry like you accused me of doing.

>A fundamental aspect of Hasbara is to just talk over other people with crap and throw shit into conversation spaces just for the sake of preventing and derailing real conversations.

Sure I live at Sulphur well lane.

I don't smell dead bodies.

Who the fuck are you?

Carr Aaron recovred the missing keys for the nuclear football under William Clintion.


No!

>>513181809
>a violent response or to "Luigi' someone often serves as a generic way to signal something.
That's a fair assessment, I tend to get rather lost in nuance, whether it be implicit or apparent. I just try to make the articulate distinction, as it can be a slippery slope, especially when emotions are high. I have seen so many fall into pits of rage and hatred, fueled by injustice done to them or those they care for. I have lived within these horrid pits, wrought with despair and anger. It isn't good for one, or all. Though it also shouldn't be disregarded.
Many of within the general populous are not self aware, certainly not to the degree some are. Nor are they as articulate with their introspection. I admire the efforts we all make, but once more, we have to be careful where our energies lie and why, for the set the stones on our path.
This being said, I do support the use of the phrasing. I just try to make sure to review it with the individual if I can, because I know what it can be.


This is me, for it to die I must first die, and even then I have writings that will live on.

I hope you do run into me somewhere else online, I can tell we are of similar minds.

>>513181820
And look what has come from those who have in the past. Doomed to repeat the same mistakes.

That's is the job of the C I A!

Carr Aaron oh fuck..

>>513175302
Fuck if only

>>513181895
>A lot of the technological sacrifices people make in the name of convenience make it easier for our rulers to exert power over us
>To tell you that trying to escape this is futile, and makes you a stupid loser.

PREACH BROTHER

>>513171033 (OP)
Reported to the FBI. Stop watching anime.

You have to go the root of their power . Where are they gettin all this power ? Money . USA has the FED to print, gold reserves and taxes (this is more of an economic tool of money destruction to stabilize the currency) , China has its own FED, Russia the same .

Money , thats the key of everything. Why a turbo autistic like Musk can hang and at some point even work with the president ? Because he has power given by the money he has.

Lets create a scenario where all the currencies in the world inflate to 100,000% tomorrow . Nobody would buy anything and barter would come back, people would not go to work , why would they, nobody would pay taxes, their power hand like the police in their survelaince state would crumble ...And thats how you dismantle the system

Now lets back to reality , do you realize how enormously difficult is for such thing to happen ? But thats what it takes to remove this putrid system

>>513171091
the feds made them all gay and retarded also sabu

>>513182299
Yhea but it does not buy you the official NFL jersey...

>>513171033 (OP)
such things are impossible without men, and the last two generations have produced nothing but femboys of various shapes
so dream on

A soilder?

But he is so young...

>>513171091
>whatever happened to Anonymous? They used to be cool and did honorable shit.
The FBI rolled them up in 2011. Everything after that was just some faggot attention seeking larpers.

>>513182321
This is what I mean, we have to destroy their money. I do not pretend it is an easy task, but never is the right choice the easy one.

>>513182481
Palantir is insanity. This is another hurdle we must overcome.

>>513171033 (OP)
>the world doesn't have a conglomerate like Evil Corp,
Yes. it's called the Federal Reserve system.


If you were to counterfeit US money, you would effectively be stealing a very small amount from the US citizens as a whole. It’s morally wrong because you’re taking value without providing a good or service. It causes a small bit of inflation which is devaluation of the currency.

When the Jew owned Federal Reserve does it by the $trillions, they are stealing significant amounts of wealth from the citizens. They are essentially printing their own counterfeit money and spending it, which is stealing from the citizens as a whole. They may use the money to buy 300,000 private houses (Blackstone/Blackrock) to rent to goyim who can’t afford to buy. This repeats until the Jews own everything in 2030.

Eventually the Jews will own everything as the Talmud predicts. Their wealth increases and yours deceases to infinity.

How does that make you feel you dirty goyim?

>By a continuing process of inflation, government can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. - John Maynard Keynes

https://archive.org/details/a-history-of-central-banking-and-the-enslavement-of-mankind-pdfdrive

>>513182340
Now that I follow, I love the commentary.

>>513182481
Glow nigger Jealousy.

5 star Generals where not told the codes where missing and you put it all on a child soldier?

>>513182321
power abhors a vacuum. destroy currency and new currencies will emerge since currency fulfills a necessary function that barter cannot. better to create a new currency then designed from the ground up not to be exploitable in the ways the old currency was.

or if going the barter route consider a smarter form of barter facilitated by ais that match what you want with what you can offer and manage a complex series of trades beyond human management in order to deliver. you want plastic toy, plastic toy company wants toilet paper for their offices, you mop the floors in the toilet paper factory, a trade is made between all parties but all you see is you clicked a button next to a picture of the plastic toy you wanted in an app. a simple example now imagine a series of trades covering hundreds of parties in order to get a toothbrish into the hands of a mechanic, an app could do it. thats the best i can think of youre looking to replace currency entirely. you cant exactly walk into a best buy with a bunch of chicken looking to trade it for an ipad, but with ai barter app maybe you kinda could.

>>513178854
>uuuhh ummm uhhhhhhhhh THATS REDDIT!!!! GOTEM!!!!!!!!!
good work

>>513182340
I don't watch sportsball. I'm repulsed by any media with non-whites.

>>513182721
But that's what they want to see.

Carr Aaron recovered the missing nuclear football codes.

So, The football game is going to happen?

>>513171033 (OP)

I think it would be exceedingly difficult to organize and communicate with like-minded individuals without getting caught by monitoring or infiltrating government agents.

And with modern monitoring & analysis tools in place, I'd wager its easier than ever for government agents to identify potential champions of revolution and distract or remove them.

>>513182846
Okay Kiefer Sutherland

Your the star of the show behind the strangest rated defensive line in the NFL with a VIP card.

How's that for we used a child solider?

>>513182661
There needs to be a wide array of restructuring. Far too much consumerism occurs nowadays for anything real to be sustainable, which is without a doubt deliberate. Humans like things, sure, but not naturally to the degree we are obsessed today. They have created so many manners of dependency on their system that trying to go without strictly as we are simply is not possible.

Call me naive, call it whatever you want, but what makes the world go 'round is people doing things because they care about something. We create, we explore, we inquire, we mystify, we enjoy, and so many things. I do not see why we (as humans in general, not the current populous) cannot simply do things because they need to be done. That is the incentive. This will only further become a more compelling case as technological advancement increasingly take care of undesirable labor. We did not complain when we created the horse drawn plow, we rejoiced in time made available and filled it with new tasks and interests.

It is only a matter of time before everything becomes so easy to manufacture, repair, sustain, etc until it has no monetary value. Monetary value is a bullshit concept we created, and has no real purpose. This take on bartering is still clinging to these absurd and limited understandings of what makes something valued, and the incentive behind it.

Anyone can say all kinds of bullshit.

Your the hacker Mr. Robot.

So then you have a set of the rare Mr. Robot error Mits that where made into gloves?

>>513182873
Fair points, to which I cannot argue.
Can't even meet in real life with people of like minds without crossing by X amount of security cameras, and even without them there are still satellites.

But then again, we out number them. I think the solution really is a matter of numbers. Solidarity of the masses.

Holly shit you have the freaky freeze Mr. Robot in gloves?

Thouse where error production rare.

The problem is you guys arent willing to die. A sequence of lone wolf attacks would easily spark revolution.

>>513183221
The problem with have absolute resolve of death is you might cross the nexus and see your death while your alive.

>>513182962
glamorous jobs sure, some people are motivated to do those things just to do those things. rocket scientists are probably pretty jazzed about rockets, some of them anyways. but would they still do it if all their needs were met for free? some of them would sure. not all of them. and what about the jobs that need doing that nobody actually wants to do? does anyone actually enjoy mopping up shit from a bathroom floor? no, they need incentive. sure you could have robots do it i guess, but can robots really do everything nobody wants to do? not anytime soon if ever. and what if the robots take the jobs people do want to do, i guess we just rejoice in meaningless hedonism? and how do people with nothing to do earn a living, and if everything is free and they dont need to earn a living, then who decides who gets what? the government? those assholes? they`ll shaft us! face it, we still need jobs, we still need incentives, and we still need some kind of system that matches jobs to incentives and allows a relatively decentralized system to ensure you can get what you want for what you can offer without a government allocating you pity rations. i`m just being pragmatic, its important to balance idealism with pragmatism otherwise you get nowhere.

Money is the thing that makes the seat next to you on the bus to good for someone with out money because they have plans to talk about.

>>513182962
>Far too much consumerism occurs nowadays for anything real to be sustainable
just so you know, this has become a rallying cry for tyrants who want to use it as an excuse to control what everyone is and isnt allowed to have. its basically the "you will own nothing, and you will be happy" of the wef. where wef "stakeholders" as they call themselves will deny the plebs air conditioning in our apartments while they fly around in private jets. they want to use programmable money, cbdcs, to control what people can buy and sell and maybe tie that into a social credit system. all in the name of solving the problem of rampant consumerism they created in the first place.

as soon as you put yourself or someone else in the position to decide what people can and can`t buy, you implement the means of absolute tyranny.

so no, i will continue to buy plastic robot kits from japan even though i dont need them and they`re bad for the environment or whatever and i dont want you to stop me because you decided for yourself that i dont need them.

>>513183440
"I do not see why we cannot simply do things because they need to be done. That is the incentive."

As I've said before, I do not pretend to have all of the answers.

There are plenty of people who would be rocket scientists, given your example, that don't have access to become such due to financial constraints. The fact of the matter is that in such a system we simply do not know how many people would go into any specific field, whether that be an increase or decrease relative to the current status. Nothing even remotely like what I've suggested has actually been implemented, out of fear and desire for control.

I see no issue with having a sort of social conscription in order to push people into doing things less desirable, it could be a civil duty. Not all of life, even currently without monetary incentive is based purely on desire, but also ones responsibility and duty. Personally, I'd be fine with having a preset amount of time where I'd have to clean shit off the floor, if it meant that I and everyone else could also have the freedom to pursue what it is we please.

>and what if the robots take the jobs people do want to do, i guess we just rejoice in meaningless hedonism?
That's nonsense, people will always find things to derive meaning from. What it is we do to derive such will continue to evolve as it has, and our various fields will follow suit.

>and how do people with nothing to do earn a living
There would be no need to constantly justify your existence. You simply exist, you do not owe it to anyone, including yourself, to justify something that which was entirely out of your control.

Power is the invitation to the steak dinner with all of the big names in the government for $50 when everyone else pays 2,000 for a chance a set next to you.

>>513183440
>if everything is free and they dont need to earn a living, then who decides who gets what?
It has been observed on numerous occasions that when people are not forced into systems of artificial scarcity, that they will not hoard. They will only take what is necessary. Referencing human behavior within current societies is absurd, it's like arguing that the behavior of a bear in a zoo is that of one in the wild. They are simply not equivalent.

> they`ll shaft us! face it, we still need jobs, we still need incentives.....
As I have stated previously, numerous times, you cannot expect dystopian people to function within a utopia. It simply will not happen. It is as it has always been within a society, to set forth systems that will progressively transform the people over time, and that the system will follow suit, in order to form a more perfect union.

Feel the terror sinking in the bite of the she wolf.

>>513183937
>There are plenty of people who would be rocket scientists, given your example, that don't have access to become such due to financial constraints
oh yeah. the current system of expensive degrees and hr cockblockers is fucking awful and so many minds go to waste that could be doing things. people arent getting where they want or need to be in life.

sure you would be fine wiping shit off the floor out of civic pride or whatever. most people wont be. you shouldnt fall into the trap of envisioning some ideal way you think humans should act and expecting them to act that way. we`ll never be robots. humans will never be fully rational entities. people will never behave the way you think they should, they`re going to behave like humans. it comes back to the human nature being an inherent function of biology, brain structure, instincts.

you say there is no need for me to justify my existence. but thats not your thing to decide for me or anyone else.

people are sloppy, messy, and we need systems that work with what we are not an impossible system built on the ideal man which we can never live up to.

>>513183768
>just so you know, this has become a rallying cry for tyrants who want to use it as an excuse to control what everyone is and isnt allowed to have.
I am more than aware, however it is also within the interests of tyrants for you to believe you need a shit ton of garbage that serves no actual purpose. As you are then further dependent on these systems they have set forth, in which they control.

>where wef "stakeholders" as they call themselves will deny the plebs air conditioning in our apartments while they fly around in private jets.
False equivalency. "There is more than enough for everyone's need, not enough for everyone's greed." That is the core of what I have reiterate multiple times now.

>as soon as you put yourself or someone else in the position to decide what people can and can`t buy, you implement the means of absolute tyranny.
I did not advocate for such. Stop thinking of it all in means of buying, and having permission for that. This is the downfall of monetary based systems, they condition you into thinking it is the only way of existing. As if reality is only transactional.

>>513184192
Yeah but you don't know to want to be they guy who claims the patton on a soild state ricket fule rather then the company's snook.

>>513184192
>sure you would be fine wiping shit off the floor out of civic pride or whatever. most people wont be.
Hence my statement that there would be a wide array of restructuring, and paradigm shifts.

>you shouldnt fall into the trap of envisioning some ideal way you think humans should act and expecting them to act that way.
There is no should, it is a matter of how we act when we are not bottled up and directed like cattle.

>we`ll never be robots. humans will never be fully rational entities
I never implied that we would be, in either case.

>people will never behave the way you think they should, they`re going to behave like humans.
That is precisely my point. Why do you think so many have increasing amounts of mental illnesses? It's not just biochemical factors in our environment. We are social creatures, how we interact with each other, how we view ourselves, and how it all fits together in the grand scheme of things change our biochemistry, and even our genetic makeup.

>you say there is no need for me to justify my existence. but thats not your thing to decide for me or anyone else.
No, it isn't, and that is the point of what I am saying. You are the one who is currently saying that they must justify it, by earning it.

>>513184221
it doesn`t matter what you advocated for directly if those results are going to come indirectly and inevitably from what you did advocate for. you want an end to consumerism, well that effectively means someone is going to decide for me what i can and cant buy. yes, buy, because without buying something it is being gifted to me by people with the power to do so based on what exactly? benevolence? ideals are useless if you have absolutely not the slightest fucking conception of how it could work in reality with the reality of humans being as messy as we are. we will never be your ideal rational selfless robots.

>>513184409
im just saying people want purpose and purpose is often derived from completing tasks and if youre going to complete a task you should be allocated the resources you need so you can devote your time to that task rather then having to farm and hunt for everything you need. if we dont have money to facilitate that then we will have a government we will have to trust to decide for us what we have to do and what we get in return, i dont trust government with that.

>>513184411
>benevolence

>ben e violence

So we should all try to live in complete and total ben-jamin nettinahose violence with each other?

Raspberry jam.

>>513184411
>you want an end to consumerism, well that effectively means someone is going to decide for me what i can and cant buy.
No, it does not. You are vastly misunderstanding what it is that I am saying. I do not know how many times I must reiterate the same shit to you either. You cannot take dystopian people and expect them to function within a more utopic society. It will not work. Your reductionist take on what I am saying is even further proof of that very fact.

>yes, buy, because without buying something it is being gifted to me by people with the power to do so based on what exactly?
Once more, you need to stop thinking of reality as transactional. It is not.

>we will never be your ideal rational selfless robots.
That is not even remotely what I have said in the slightest. You can stop with your straw man fallacies any day now. I've grown rather tired of the myriad of logistical fallacies you are using to attempt to make an argument.

>>513184535
>im just saying people want purpose and purpose is often derived from completing tasks
We derive purpose from more things than simply completing tasks. Even if it were the dominant thing, which it really isn't and hasn't been for a very long time, then that is only further a justification for what I have said previously.

>if youre going to complete a task you should be allocated the resources you need so you can devote your time to that task rather then having to farm and hunt for everything you need.
Holy run on yap, Batman.

> if we dont have money to facilitate that then
Still framing it in terms of money chief, stop doing that. If you cannot wrap your mind around that, of course none of it is going to make sense to you.

>>513184564
i`m trying to strawman you its just im a practical person and youre a vague wishy washy idealist and if you wont tell me what youre saying in practical terms then im going to derive the practical conclusions out of your vague nonsense and work off that.

reality is transactional. everything is a transaction. i eat a sandwich and that transaction is matter to energy. transactions are inherent to nature. everything is give and take.

we do not live in post scarcity we havent figured out matter replicators yet, this isnt star trek. and dont tell me you didnt say that because you didnt say anything of substance and thats the problem.

you have told me your dream and i have explained why your dream is implausible and you respond angrily with more dreams of how you think human beings should behave in your perfect world that demand perfect people to function. its never going to happen, being flawed is inherent to being human. your utopian people are not biologically possible nor do i think even desirable, they would be quite dull i think. perfect little selfless robots implies a lack of chaos so profound as to be thoroughly anti-human, they would be something else entirely implying our extinction. no thanks.

We tired to make a prefect world humanity repeatedly rejected the idea of a world with out error.

>>513184846
The only one displaying anger in response here is you chief.
I will not engage in discourse with your rampantly spitting out projections and fallacies galore. It is of no interest to me whatsoever.

You need to take some time to reassess yourself and your responses. Go take a walk or something. Otherwise, I am done trying to discuss the topic with you, as this is absurd.

>>513184846
>im trying to strawman you
i mean not trying to strawman you. but i am strawmanning you because i have to. because what youre saying makes no fucking sense so i have to build a little man to represent you and its going to be made of straw because i dont know whats in your fucking head and i dont think you do either. just vague hippy notions of utopia and no practical meat behind any of it.

>>513184718
>stop framing it in terms of money
i have to because without money NOTHING FUCKING WORKS
magic fairy land of things just getting done just because and people get their wants and needs fulfilled just... somehow. doesnt make any fucking sense and you havent made it make sense, because you cant explain shit

>>513171033 (OP)
look up
New Order of Barbarians - Tapes 1-4 - Dr Richard Day
The Population Control Agenda Dr Stanley Monteith
The Secret Society Network Eric Dubay
UNCED Earth Summit 1992 George Hunt
The Report from Iron Mountain – Blueprint for Tyranny - Bill Cooper 1993
at
archive.org, odysee.com, bitchute.com

unsorted bulletpoints:
-UN using environment as pretext for global control, depopulation via policies.
-Agenda 21 leads to one-world government, restricting freedoms.
-Use media/entertainment for distraction with violence/sex; deteriorate culture.
-Break down family: Promote divorce, working mothers, transient relationships.
-Restructure education to limit critical thinking, promote sex/gender confusion, and reduce parental influence.
-Legalize euthanasia and use "demise pills" to eliminate elderly/poor; suppress disease cures for control.
-Normalize population control via birth control, abortion, sterilization, and promote homosexuality to reduce births.
-Expand social programs (e.g., poverty reduction, health care) as partial war substitutes, but they are insufficient alone.
-Fictional threats like alien invasions could serve as substitutes for war.
-War must be replaced by alternative "enemies" like environmental pollution crises to maintain control and unity.

>>513184961
no you were the first to respond in anger right here >>513184564
>I do not know how many times I must reiterate the same shit to you
>Your reductionist take
>I've grown rather tired of the myriad of logistical fallacies
that was you and thats when the previously civil conversation we were having went off the rails

myriad of logistical fallacies fuck you. i have been nothing but logical. trying in futility to scrape something of substance out of your vague sophistical bullshit. eat shit

Tell them it's about Male(love)nce and they eat it up like Flys to shit.

>guy ITT thinks he can just force people to adopt some monoculture and follow a certain way of thinking
really nigga? china tried to do that, and look how that went

>>513185035
Thanks for the input! I'll take a gander, I love me some reading!

You crave whatever this inner conflict is.

>>513185188
who said anything about adopting a monoculture? I sure didn't

>say vague things
>person responds drawing logical conclusions from the implications of how your vague things would work in reality
>get angry he didnt understand your vague things. accuse him of strawmanning. fail to explain how your vague things would work in reality. even though the guy you accused of strawmanning already explained how it wouldnt work in reality and why

>>513185228
Potato famine.
Everyone grows the same crop then everyone's crop is decimated by the same fungus.

>>513185228
its the logical conclusion based on your vague proposals. that is the inevitable end result of what youre proposing

if you take people and make a big multicultural society here, there, everywhere. its all going to end up looking the same. the same mix of the same peoples everywhere is going to be the same cultural mush everywhere. one big global mixed together monoculture thats how it works.

once again we are correcting your vague hippy dreams and explaining how it would actually go down in reality.

>>513185365
So no walk or something? Maybe some deep breathes will help you instead? Idk man

>>513185188
it worked
tell me it didn't
it isn't a GOOD culture but those fuckers tow the line everywhere they go. china numba 1. every civilian is also a propagandist for social credit

>>513185442
How about you quit trying to mix everything together into a shit colored culture?

>>513185228
the way you were describing your idea sounded like that. It just sounds unrealistic to me, especially since the world adopts capitalism as like the default economic model. mixing in socialism with capitalism is ur best bet to help people, since u sound like an altruistic person but in a bit of a naive way. Some countries are selling weed and shit to fund public infrastructure and make free healthcare possible iirc

>>513185442
no fuck you im enjoying my anger
what im not enjoying is this dull cliched response/ non-argument

>>513185607
I hope you grow beyond these tantrums one day, for everyone's sake including your own.

>>513185651
During Tulip mania One worker took one of the most valuable bulbs off a boat.
Took a home choped it up and make it unto sandwich.

Once people hered what he did they called for his murder for such stupidity.

Not long after long after that same bulb whould be Worth less then a potato.

>>513185581
Ah, well that's certainly not what I advocate for, though I do advocate for unification of the species in a geo-political sense, I am not stating such regarding we all adopt a monoculture. I think it's important for individuals and groups to retain their identities, but recognize that it's a part of a whole. I wouldn't really call it an adoption of monoculture to work in cooperation with each other.
I wouldn't really say it's adopted capitalism, more-so reluctantly accepted when forced. As any attempts otherwise are deliberately undermined.
I do think adopting more socialistic methods are a step in the right direction, yes. I also would say that I am an altruist, despite my aversion for labels as they can very easily be used to put one into a box. Some may call me naive, to which I don't really care for, though others are welcome to perceive me as they please. Such is not my burden to hold.

You are correct in your statement that some countries are selling cannabis and using the taxes collected to help fund public infrastructure and social institutions. I love the proper utilization and development of cannabis in it's medicinal applications.

>>513185651
I hope you never learn the idea of self preservation before trying to warn the idoits Mr. smart guy.

It tasted terrible Frankly I wouldn't trade it for a potato.

Kill him!
Fucking idoit!

>>513185581
everything he says sounds good at first until you press him on even the vaguest details, which he cant provide. so you try to make logical inferences and extrapolations of how it would work in reality and you find holes and flaws in his thinking. to which he can only respond in anger saying he never said that, even though its the only logical extrapolation of what he was saying would actually look like.

>>513185651
i hope you learn to pull your head out of your ass, stop with the vague bullshit you have never given deep thought on. and learn to listen to others feedback so you can actually develop your ideas in practical ways that solve the inherent flaws in your thinking. you have presented nothing but dreams of how you think things and people should work and rejected all logical feedback that pointed out how it wouldnt work. rejected, not debated, not argued. your vague dreams only defended with more vague dreams and feelgood nonsense.

also, you`re a control freak. you want to tell people what they can and cant buy, or you want someone else in control of that. you didnt say that, but its the logical extrapolation of your vague dream. you said you want a world where everyones needs are met and there is no such thing as money and people dont want unsustainable consumerism. how that works in reality is a government allocating resources, ok, thats the only way. and i explained the issues in that and you dont care. you want to dictate how people should act and im trying to tell you people arent going to act the way you think they should all the time, they just arent. and yet if they dont, and they wont, then none of what youre proposing is possible without... government allocating labour.

in the end it all comes down to centralized all powerful government reigning over a monoculture. thats the end result. you are trying to sell us on communism. using vague feelgood dreams that fall apart under scrutiny

>>513186263
Once more: I hope you grow beyond these tantrums one day, for everyone's sake including your own.
It's rather sad, really.

>>513186335
68 posts.

Yet nothing you said will dictate my life.

Completely pathetic in its entirety

>>513186335
you forgot to say: take meds, touch grass, have sex incel

all that matters is that everything i said is right and true and you cant argue with it.

>>513186509
Go read a step by step Guide of how to touch grass.

>>513186682
oh, you think the grass is your ally? but you merely adopted the grass; I was born in it, molded by it. i didn't see the screen until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but blinding.

KYS kill your self.
A ok post with jannie.

No one whould care if you went away from (keys)[keyboard] forever..

Frankly we don't want you here so log off.

Hateful harassment not ok with jannie.

Go touch grass log off you fucking simp.

Is it possible for you to touch grass?

As an AI, I don't have a physical form, so I can't touch grass or interact with the physical world. But I can certainly help you learn about grass or discuss outdoor activities!

But you can touch grass so I won't kill you to log the fuck off?

*But you can touch grass so It won't kill you to log the fuck off?

The guy that always logs out on the last bar of health.

Then you learn to put lava where he loged out.

>>513171623
blackrock, vanguard, sida, open societies. targets are a hydra that stem from same source. tor is compromised, gpg/pgp comms are only way organizing. learn encryption and collect people of rebelious spirit, teach pentesting knowledge and proper opsec. then study the revenue and investors to know the system and how it operates in the world. tor and i2p are compromised but with encryption and tunneling you can still organise. can add more info later, on a timer so im out.

>>513171033 (OP)
>I understand that the world doesn't have a conglomerate like Evil Corp,
What is Google? What is Disney? Have you ever seen how much Disney alone own? What is the entire tech oligarchy in conjunction working together? What is the entire media in conjunction working together? What are you talking about about the world doesn't have a conglomerate like Evil Corp? Have you ever heard of 'The UN'?
>?
>?
You want to know what the NWO is?
>UNWO
>UN WO

And as far as 'organizing'? Are you this new?
>Anonymous
>Lulzsec
>LizardSquad
>CWA
>ShadowBrokers
>Wikileaks
>Julian Assange
>Edward Snowden
>Bill Binney
>Project Veritas
Want a *PROTIP*? Never put a label on anything. Ever. The only label, is put on you. With a big bullseye behind it.

>>513187762
the wef? every major global leader, or major corporation head, or media mogule, is all part of that one club, the world economic forum, with closed door annual meetings. and if you watch their videos or read their public publications they pretty much spell out their real plans if you read between the lines. they want themselves in charge of the allocation of resources they call it a stakeholder government where they own everything so theyre in charge. they already are, but more openly and direct they want. a world where we own nothing and just get what they give us if we do what they want. basically communism. maybe we are overthinking this if we say its a big multiheaded hydra, its actually pretty centralized these days.

>>513188100
>the wef?
Right?
>But, still part of 'The UN'
>UN WO (1 World Government)
We have a shit ton of conglimerates. I agree with everything that you said. But, that main conglomerate, including the one which The WEF belongs to, is The UN.

>>513187762
So evil Corp is real but not what you think.

What is an Umbrella Corporation?
AI Overview
+3
An umbrella corporation is a parent company that owns and controls multiple subsidiary businesses, often in different sectors. It's a structure used to manage various business lines, protect assets, and potentially streamline operations. The umbrella company acts as a holding company, providing a level of separation and risk management between the different subsidiaries.
Here's a more detailed explanation:
Structure:
An umbrella corporation is a holding company that owns and oversees a group of subsidiary businesses. This structure allows for diversification and risk management.
Purpose:
Asset Protection: One of the primary reasons for using an umbrella structure is to protect the assets of the parent company from potential liabilities of the subsidiaries.
Operational Efficiency: Umbrella corporations can streamline administrative tasks like payroll, HR, and legal compliance, leading to cost savings and increased efficiency.
Risk Management: By separating the liabilities of different businesses, an umbrella structure can limit the financial impact of a subsidiary's failure on the parent company and other subsidiaries.
Flexibility: An umbrella structure allows for the easy acquisition of new businesses or the establishment of new ventures without affecting the parent company or other subsidiaries.
Examples:
Umbrella corporations are often used by large corporations, investment groups, and even independent contractors to manage multiple businesses or projects under one umbrella.
Distinction from a regular corporation:
A regular corporation runs a single business, while an umbrella corporation owns and controls multiple businesses.
For example, the fictional Umbrella Corporation from the Resident Evil franchise is depicted as a massive, multinational conglomerate that develops pharmaceutical products, but also secretly develops biological weapons,

You really thought evil Corp was one single company?

Umbrella corporations

>>513186844
you have to go back

>>513171033 (OP)
Fsociety had their own dedicated office space in an abandoned building. They did this because when hackers got caught it was because they usually got caught because of hacking at home on their desktop. But couldn't the same thing be achieved if they all used portable laptops and didn't stay in one place and spoofed their laptop MAC addresses?

>>513171091
Sabu got caught and snitched on all the other members of Anonymous. The original Anonymous is no more. The CIA/Mossad is continuing on a fake Anonymous now that is radical leftwing but they aren't real. Coincidentally the Anonymous hacker group started on 4chan of all places.

>>513189167
To work at Evil Corp?

>>513188405
>So evil Corp is real but not what you think.
Correct. And bigger that '1 country'. 'Globslism' & 'Globalists'...are your 'Evil Corp.'

The reality is simple. Nothing that any amount of organization ..or action...outside of open civil war, will ever change anything. This Administration, THIS ONE, is this worlds...only chance.

Nothing that can or even could be done, hasn't been done before. Most of it, didn't even make a blip on (((The Media))) or (((Social Media))) because they OWN both.
>Example:
The UN got their shit pushed in in 2017/18 and no one ever heard anything about it. And even if did, cared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=In8Cn64-pqA
>1:45
It's a pointless endeavor that can be solved in 1 of 2 ways only. 1, is happening right now. And the second, people are too much of cowards for. And they know that.

>>513189392
wherever you came from and contains the origin of your spergout issues

>>513189435
No one whould care if you went away keys forever... never have you posted any original content in your life.
You spam BBC kys and take meds in any good threads trying to derail any conversation not on you list of approved talking points.

>>513188405
>>513189428
Evil Corp and modern capitalism are just liberalism. Mr. Robot hacker were Antifa insurgents. Mr. Robot is Antifa commie propaganda.

>>513189538
Right just like the yellow vest where a antifa movement that was hijacked by fucking racist.
The TV told me the truth.

>>513189174
mac spoof, user agent switcher and scrambler on any browser, no cookies and noscript.net. provate openvpn raspberry pi zeros dropped at libraries and public wifi locations as access points/exit nodes and proxy tunneling (sadly not safe anymore unless you set up a good network beforehand with exit and entry bridges)

having a laptop that runs linux from ram/squashfs should be dosble, then metasploit to drop payloads to get work done and disconnect and leave to go get a hamburger, alibi. but you basically gotta solo everything because organised anything will be a target as previous poster said. everyone has to become tech savvy and navigate this new world to resist tyranny and surveillance oppression.

I MISS MR ROBOT

>>513189672
So Aaron from Annapolis MD. Davidsonville.
The captail of Maryland is Annapolis.

Irgun a zoinist terroist group that bombed the king david hotel with the motto we do not forgive We do not forget.

>>513182408
Freiskorps Voran! Die Grenze brennt! Ein Soldner ohne Sold!

>>513189538
>Evil Corp and modern capitalism are just liberalism
>Communism and capitalism are the same thing
Looks like you didn't actually watch the series or just took in what you wanted. Season 1...was all about 'Old School Fawkes Anonymous' times and the multitude of hacking groups that were spawned from it. Down to 'Th3 J35t3r'. Sam Esmail
>Creator and producer
is an ex Fawkes anon from the EARLY DAYS. Ex /b/tard.

During OG Anons time, it was about nothing BUT 'free speech'. Which your claim to 'antifa', is against...like the actual Nazis.

Season 2 came, this was during the 2016 election cycle. Like all things...when 'hollywood', sees that something is a hit...they want to inject their bullshit into it. So, the fag shit started. The tranny shit started. Annnnddddd the series, fell off.

Season 3, it looks as if Hollywood was projecting Hillary to win, because the entire season, was about Darlene. IT WAS GIRL POWER TIME, BIGOTS! And the show, collapsed.

What sucked was season 4 & 5 were good, but by being diverse, inclusive & equitable...along with pandering to sub groups, like the Democrat party, lost their base.

THAT, is the effect of your libtardism. It takes something great...and DESTROYS IT. Like everything that LIBTARDISM touches.

I am the stone that the builder refused;
Abcde f-ace a book.

I am the visual, the inspiration
That made lady sing the blues.

I'm the spark that makes your idea bright,
The same spark that lights the dark
So that you can know your left from your right.

I am the ballot in your box,
The bullet in your (gun),
The inner glow that lets you know
To call your brother son.

The story that just begun,
The promise of what's to come,
And I'ma remain a soldier
Till the war is won.

Judo flip

>>513190273
there was no season 5 what the fuck are u talking about?

>>513190273
Old school Anonymous Aaron vs Ronald Hubbard.


Mc Donald's get slaughtered

anonimoose expectum patronum

>>513190347
I thought it was only a few episodes??? Not a 'full season', due to being cut. You sure?

>>513189672
you might like https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0899043/

But are religion says Ronald Hubbard will be reincarnated and be the only person who changes us and wins.

Oh God.

The chosen one does not like me.

Come out of the closet

>>513190347
Naa, you're right. I just...stopped watching after the gay/tranny/Darlene shit. I really never even watched the final season. Just parts of it. It was good from what i'd seen though. Sucks Sam nuked the show before it had the chance to reach it's full potential. The music Sam chose, was the best that any tv series has ever chosen. Blows.

Hacking is kind of pointless when Jews and the government can use evil spirits to telepathically spy on you. I hope you didn't sin. Otherwise they possess you and... (((they)))... see you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfIHHRZ1bsc&list=PLCFRZSKX1V3HpJ91r4QwgpCcS6tzXEtL9

>>513190967
Yeah? But so can you 8^)

>>513171033 (OP)
irl
using that memeflag isnt helping
put your area code as a namefag or comment signature and someone will reach out. youd be surprised how easy it is to make your own group irl. craigslist let a post of mine get through for a 10 whopping 10 minutes and i managed to get half a dozen emails, two of them from now lifelong bros whod help me blood eagle a jew if i asked them.

>>513190561
that was a good episode

>>513190967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6EZ-QCjTaE&pp=ygUgTWFzcXVlcmFkZWQgYXMgYW4gYW5nZWwgb2YgbGlnaHQ%3D

>and then one day, for no reason at all, bombs voted planes into power
really does make ya think tho

>>513171091
It was us all along

>>513171091
things got real really fast after the hbgary and strafor hacks. every private intelorg to got implicated felt they had something to prove by going after anonymous members, and as previous anons have mentions; their inner circle being compromised through sabu.
i believe currently the only ones doing any hacking are DDOS affiliated trannies and the paid discord group of a fed adjacent pedophile junkie. it might not be 100% correct but it's a good approximation of the truth.

>>513192067
Did they ever catch AVUNIT? I hear they've been looking for him for 15 years.

>>513192314
afaik they're still out there somewhere.
even rummaging through decades of leaked dbs there is no solid lead to their real identity. fucking satoshi has a bigger digital footprint that avunit does.

We are the perpetual cog in your gears.

Evil Corp is company's you have never heard of...

>>513171033 (OP)
>Mr Robot level event
cool, did you even watch the show?
it's a critique of consumer-based society and capitalism in general, however forgetting the last seasons and the >it's all in your head meme, essentially they failed because there's no "after" capitalism, you can't just crush a bunch of companies and pretend that it will suddenly work without a plan for something that's referred to as post-capitalism (and whatever system takes its place might became another version of that where a bunch of rich faggots suck all the wealth from the poor 99%)

Someone had "said" they have some sort of node replicating virus that could be released and DOS the whole internet...

Idk we will see if the turd is put in the punch bowl.

I guess it's possible.

They are not giving out any details.

>>513194564
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

>>513181895
>and they pay to propagandize. To tell you that trying to escape this is futile, and makes you a stupid loser.
you just described a solid 80-99% of posts on this rotten husk of a board.

>>513171091
sabu turned em all over

>>513196827
this is giga-based. will need to read a lot more of this guy's ideas:
> The underlying cause of this oppression, Proudhon argues, is the existence of state-backed property rights. Property, in his view, is both theft and freedom. It is theft when one person owns the property that others need to survive. Property is theft when the person who owns it can own it without occupying it and can derive rent, income, and profit simply because they hold legal title. It is this form of property that allows a minority of property owners to control a majority of citizens, who are forever in debt simply because they don't hold "title." In this sense, property enabled a form of enslavement of the propertyless by the propertied minority. It is this enslavement that Proudhon's anarchism seeks to challenge. [...] What is needed is a property regime that enables freedom for all. The best way of guaranteeing freedom for all, Proudhon argues, is for each person or small group to own their own means of production. Property is legitimate when it is co-extensive with possession. Proudhon objects not to property per se, but to large accumulations.

Op is a fed

>>513171033 (OP)
why yes I'm also watching this after Netflix put it on the front page