Thread 513171374

Bye, bye
>The Democrats' proposal targets five Republican representatives – Kevin Kiley, Doug LaMalfa, David Valadao, Darrell Issa and Ken Calvert – who now face bluer districts. Democrats currently control 43 of California's 52 seats.

Kevin Kiley, Doug LaMalfa, David Valadao, Darrell Issa and Ken Calvert – enjoy getting on unemployment! Which you can in California who does care about its people!

>>513171374 (OP)
Why not just remove all districts so that you count the whole state and remove every single republican rep?

>>513171374 (OP)
>We must defend stage managed Democracy.
This is the proposed map.

>>513171471
That's what the Republicans wanted in texas.
This is just a response from the Democrats in California.

Our political system is such a dog and pony show wank compared to other first world countries.

>>513171547
spaghetti-mandering

why doesnt Trump just expand SCOTUS and then put 20 thomas tier judges on it?

this is the game you niggers want to play

>>513171602
>That's what the Republicans wanted in texas.
>This is just a response from the Democrats in California.
>Our political system is such a dog and pony show wank compared to other first world countries.
What Texas is proposing in their State is far less obnoxious than what Illinois did a couple of years ago

>>513171756
>You
This is in response to them lol

>>513171602
why does california care what a different state does?

>>513171784
And the most liberal city in Kansas has a Republican representative thanks to pic related.

It's a bit dogshit, something has to change

>>513171756
>why doesnt Trump just expand SCOTUS and then put 20 thomas tier judges on it?
>this is the game you niggers want to play
Nobody would have a problem with this if the court couldn't deny certiorari to cases.

>>513171890
>Why does California care about another state rigging the federal elections by district manipulation
>A state in the federal government

Gee I wonder why

Newsom's wife literally sucked Harvey Weinstein's dick btw

when the fuck do we just declare martial law and start arresting democrats? they literally want to enslave white people. if they ever get in power again they'll probably let in 50 million browns. all they care about is making sure white people don't control the country ever again. literally a combination of traitors and foreign invaders. need to be eliminated.

>>513171926
>And the most liberal city in Kansas has a Republican representative thanks to pic related.
>It's a bit dogshit, something has to change
Some Democrat Injun bitch represents Kansas 3rd district.

>>513171890
Because California is going to get a new census where they will lose their Illegal population that gives them extra seats.

>>513172192
Lawrence isn't in the 3rd district, Lawrence is in the 1st district.
Zoom into the map, it's some retarded shit where the rest of douglas county is in district 3.

California is a permanent one-party state, so this isn't surprising.

>>513171926
All of these liberal cities are full of non-Americans (anyone who isn't white), thanks to treasonous laws that inhibited Americans from defending their own towns from rampaging foreigners over the past century, and other treasonous laws granting citizenship to tens of millions of foreigners that no one asked for.

We Americans are an ethnic group, just like any other in the world, and we had our own country, and it was sold from us by treasonous politicians, but we still have the right to our own country where we are in control and where our cities belong to us and not to a bunch of filthy foreigners.

>>513171942
The court can't do thousands of cases in a single term.

>>513172353
Actually, in 2024 Harris got 10 million votes while Trump got 6 million. If traitors hadn't flooded the state with Latinos and forced everyone to accept them or go to jail/lose their business, it would probably have stayed red.

>>513172382
Lawrence Kansas is like 90% white.
It's just a college city so everyone is a Democrat. Also has civil war history so they are firmly aligned with John Brown and Bleeding Kansas, thanks to those slave masters sacking their city twice.

>>513172258
>Lawrence isn't in the 3rd district, Lawrence is in the 1st district.
>Zoom into the map, it's some retarded shit where the rest of douglas county is in district 3.
What is the argument of your thought disorder here? Both districts are republican.

>>513171374 (OP)
It literally doesn't matter at all, meanwhile, over 1000 counties nation wide have turned red since 2016.

SINCE 2016!

>>513171374 (OP)
>David Valadao

LOL. Bay Area kikes have spent untold millions trying to get rid of this fucking spic. Looks like they finally got their way.

Beaners basically have zero representation now.

>>513171374 (OP)
>>513171547
That's already a thing.

>>513172484
Doesn't matter districts are carved out by population. Lawrence and everything in green has the same population as district 3.

>>513172491
The 3rd congressional district is Democrat, the 1st is Republican.
It's trying to lessen the impact of democratic votes.

>>513172484
All of the urban areas have all sorts of janky nonsense that forces them into liberalism. Even in rural red counties town councils and mayors will often be lesbian liberals because of certain systemic factors that make cities intrinsically liberal. I think a big part of this is all the civil rights legislation and anti-man legislation preventing the trad males of the town from asserting authority. A town can't really stop itself from being flooded with mexicans or liberals or whatever, for example, nor can its store owners deny service for any real reason. If I had a bar in town and it was full of neo confederates, we would have to just sit and watch as a black gang came in and serve them just like anyone else, thanks to the laws.

>>513172617
And now Lawrence is with representation that doesn't represent them because they're only included in the district due to an offensive tentacle appendage drawn up to disenfranchise their voters.

>>513172443
Similar to my state (New Jersey). Even though we went for Kamala, Trump did rather well here.

>>513171374 (OP)
>Republicans fucking over Dems in Texas: Cringe
>Democrats fucking over Reps in Cali: Based
Simple as.

He won't do it, though. It's illegal in his state so he has to use loopholes to do it, though every other thing that goes through a vote gets slapped down in court. Publicly announcing and campaigning that you're doing this in this manner because it's otherwise illegal and is wholly due to politics in one state on the other side of the US is arming every possible prosecutor with all of the evidence they need to tie this up for a decade in court, if not outright slap it down.

This Hillary-faced cunt has lost and he looks impotent as hell.

mass illegal deportations are going on. all these seats will be gone because of the census. and they cant vote any more either.

you lost, libtards.

>>513172690
>And now Lawrence is with representation that doesn't represent them because they're only included in the district due to an offensive tentacle appendage drawn up to disenfranchise their voters.
That's not an argument, they are not disenfranchised, they can just Community Organize harder in the 60 counties.

>>513172993
>Census
The thing that won't happen again until 2030, by then which will be undone by the Democrat majority in 2026 congress and 2028 presidential election.

>>513173062
Those other counties are not their community

>>513171926
>It's a bit dogshit, something has to change
You can't completely eliminate gerrymandering without a complete rewrite of our political system, but what you CAN do is make it harder and less impactful. There is an easy way to do this with not just historical precedent, but we are objectively long overdue for:

You increase the number of Representatives in the House. Increasing the number of representatives in a state means adding more districts, making all of the districts in the state smaller. It also means that you have each representative answering to a smaller number of people, in what is known as the representation ratio.

Historically we increase our number of representatives every so often to reflect the population of the country, but we haven't done it in ages. As a result our representation ratio is fucking dogshit. Among representative democracies in the world, there is only ONE country with a worse ratio than us and its India.

Better representation ratios directly correlate to better governance and happier people. There is almost no reason not to do it. And that one reason is that it would completely redefine the electoral college numbers for each state, and nether party wants to potentially give the other side a vote advantage.

>>513173175
Yeah I agree whole heartedly with this.

>>513172443
Reagan is dead so not much that can be done about his amnesty now.

>>513173113
regardless, illegals cant vote any more if they are deported. and california made it illegal to check ID for a reason.

even 10000 deportations wins a swing state.

>>513173157
>Those other counties are not their community
No shit, that's what outreach is all about. I guess then they can entice people to come to their little community with affordable housing and jobs so it becomes its own district.

>>513171602
>>513171926

Is there anything as stupid as a liberal from a nice quiet safe rural white area? Why do you want our people to get enslaved, retard? Have you ever been outside of kansas? Or let me guess, you're a nonwhite and think your people should be able to have say over ours

>>513173298
You're in for a shock in 2026. Immigrants largely vote Republican.

>>513173583
>You're in for a shock in 2026. Immigrants largely vote Republican.
Are you still complaining about Lawrence's 97k population not being its own congressional district?

>>513171374 (OP)
>disenfranchising your own citizens to "own" some other state
seems dumb
what happens when the president makes democrats illegal?

>>513171471
That's probably how this ends. The reason we didn't do it was because we had a democratic system and we tried to represent people.

>>513171374 (OP)
>Voting
He doesn't know

>>513171374 (OP)
Is Newsom the new Ron Pearlman?

>>513173995
He has been posting in all caps recently. The scat fetish posting will be soon.

This will escalate into the state of Jefferson maybe Greater Idaho and eventually balkanization. You can't win Democrats.

>>513172986
Yep. Hillary-faced. It's accurate. The same studied mask. Something a lizard would wear.

>>513171374 (OP)
They already gerrymandered Issa 10 miles inland. He'll always find a seat.

aren't they a little too optimistic after ICE liquidated a god chunk of their voter base?

>>513171926
Lawrence is liberal because of KU. Building your district map to accommodate college kids is retarded. Lots of them are out of state but still may count to the population total.

>>513173113
lol democrats aren’t winning the presidency in 2028 short of a complete economic meltdown similar to the depression

>>513173583
I thought illegals didn’t vote. You assured us of this in 2020

the veneer of democracy has worn very thin

>>513171374 (OP)
kek

>>513171374 (OP)
Isn't Darrell Issa a fag though? What am I missing here? I'm not a fucking /ptg/ queer so your whole muh Dems won't work on me. Good for getting rid of those faggots maybe they will learn their lesson and not spread faggotry

>>513174415
Issa is a faggot. Fuck him and fuck you too

>>513172008
Dude we re going to Gerimander you people out of politics and keep you out. Fuck you to death faggot. You ruined the country with your lack of education and dumb fuck mentality. Good. Fuck you. You want to gerrymander your states? Good let’s have all the blue states with all the tax money and electoral college votes get gerrymandered into blue states. That’s fine too. You can whine about shooting yourselves in the feet after your next election loss and string of seat losses.

>>513175845
Funny thing is in the 1990s the whole SE used to be blue.

>>513176296
This is why I don’t vote.
We.

>>513174991
College is a part of that but slave owners burned down the city of Lawrence twice.

The people who live here full time are proudly liberal too.

>>513176348
We have a lot of conservative men aged 16-60 that are looking to succeed the boomers with a new ideology for conservatism (white nationalism) but need local organizations to do that. I'm sure every county has thousands and thousands of men of all age groups that are dying for a place to put their political energy. Most of them armed and willing to die for their people.

>>513171756
>if this is the game you niggers want to play
lol what
Trump is cheating. We have a precedent followed for our entire existence that you just deal with the districts you got during the census, even if you don't like them anymore. Just stop cheating and this shit wont happen, everyone will be happier

Why dont California Republican representatives flee the state to prevent the change?

>>513173740
I am glad to see your ilk finally just admitting that democracy is inferior form of government and representing the people is not actually important when the rubber meets the road. I feel like we can actually get this stuff settled if we all just admit we hate and want to kill each other, to hell with it all.

>>513176780
It's impossible for you to know what I believe based on that comment.

>>513176956
>The reason we didn't do it was because we had a democratic system and we tried to represent people.
You are promoting removing the "will of the people" to achieve and end goal, while trying simultaneously claiming virtue in it. What more do I need to understand?
Regardless, I want you dead and dream of the day I can go to CA for hunting trips.

>>513171374 (OP)
People don't vote
Land does
Clearly

>>513171374 (OP)
>Would lose half of their districts period, if we had an honest census that didn't count illegal aliens.

>>513172501
That's the most damaging stats the Democrats don't like.
Their States are already gerrymandered to maximize Democrat victory and they're still having counties trend or flip red.

>>513178185
Yep state level predicts national level trends.

You lost
Trump won
Cope

>>513176748
They're poised to lose 5 seats anyway from the COVID exodus. Problem is that they've been mass importing illegals like crazy to mitigate that loss.

The census won't add up at all when Texas, Florida, and their surrounding States gain seats from residents leaving those two States but they aren't losing anything.

>>513171602
Texas is forced by court order. That seems to get conveniently forgotten in some media. They also have a massive influx of new voters and they are adding hispanic districts. They just happen to not vote for democrats anymore.

>>513172552
Now do it for Red States and the Democrat party. They're both corrupt as hell.

>>513171374 (OP)
They should honestly just make congressional elections based on the total voting %. So if it’s split 60%-40%, one party gets 4 candidates while the other gets 6. Because honestly, the amount of gerrymandering in the usa is a fucking joke. Like as if elections weren’t retarded enough.

>>513176446
I like how retards believe that everything can change and parties 'flipped'. Yet somehow, the south is some magical vortex of racism for all eternity. When the north was as racist if not more. The south had slaves, the north didn't want blacks at all.

>>513171998
hilarious and i believe it but can i get a source?

I feel like if true this should get brought up more since democrats like weinstein and epstein are turbo rapists.

>>513178331
>Texas is forced by court order.
Who is enforcing that order? We live in a world of sanctuary cities and "legal" weed even though it is federally illegal, so let's not pretend that "court orders" even matter at this scope. Obeying orders is just the excuse they use to not do something they had no plans of doing in the first place.
>if it wasn't for that dastardly democrat judge, we could have done it!
>if it wasn't for those racist republican, we could have done it!
I don't even disagree, I am just saying that whatever axiom we used to follow to pretend we cared about laws has long ago been shattered.

>>513172552
this is the thing, democrats have gerrymandered for so long, and so lopsidedly, that they cant really do it any more, sure they may gain a few in CA, but there is is a lot more low hanging fruit for the REP's should they finally treat the left as they have treated the right.

>>513178373
democrat's won't support that cause they are propped up by the underrepresented Republicans in their cities

>>513171374 (OP)
>they RELEASED
>a
>MAP

>NO LINK
>NO CITATION
>NO EVIDENCE
>NO MAP

kys immediately

>>513171374 (OP)
You ever seen those pics of spiderwebs after dosing the spider w lsd?

>>513178954
Meant for >>513171547

>>513171374 (OP)
The California Democrats would have to change the law that the public voted for. For democracy of course.

>>513176296
lmao. Die, you fucking shit eating rat motherfucker.

>>513172443
Where do you get your information from? Holy shit, you cannot be any more wrong.

>but it looks stupid on a map!
im not really sure these people deserve a rep if this is their problem with gerrymandering

>voting
Leftists should be picking the crops
In death camps
Why are we "voting" at all?
These people should be enslaved and whipped.
We won't need spics when we use leftists as slave labor and human chattel.
It's what they deserve

>>513171374 (OP)
Not only were the Democrats Jerry meandering, they were planning to eliminate housing regulations so the could put low cost housing in republican strongholds to flip the maps blue.

New Democrat Coalition’s Housing Action Plan

>>513171374 (OP)
Republicans used to have like 20 seats in California before they did their 2017 tax cut bill that raised taxes on their voters in California..they lost half their seats the next election

We will win this war

This isn't a war Democrats can win. Blue states are as a whole more gerrymandered than red ones, meaning Republicans have more room to maneuver

>>513172382
>Has guns
>Does nothing
Americans will forever be the biggest joke to the world.

>>513171890
Because poor illiterates from the south will vote in retards like trump who will try to take all their wealth and spend it all on stopping 1 trans kid from competing in fucking horse racing and send the rest to "israel"