On paper, this board should absolutely support Ukraine
>european
>white
>christian
>nationalist
>fairly conservative
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
...
>supported by the democrats
AHHHHH THATS IT I HAVE TO SUPPORT RUSSIA AND EURASIANISM

I have never seen or heard anyone openly support Ukraine and I live in California. In fact, I don’t even hear anyone talk about the conflict.

>>513182049 (OP)
>Jewish presint
>Jewish pm
>Jewish minister of war
>Christian
Lol ok retard

>>513182125
shhhh white people are speaking pedro

that means your papers are wrong
go back to the drawing board >>>/ic/

>>513182049 (OP)
But you see, the mainstream supports Ukraine, therefor i have to support to opposite, because i'm so much smarter than the mainstream.

>>513182049 (OP)
I just want everyone to have fun.

>>513182049 (OP)
omg goys why don't you obey Soros and co.?

>>513182049 (OP)
>Ukraine: supported by all the pro vaccine jews
thats why I'm against it

>>513182049 (OP)
why should anyone support you stupid nigger?

its a broke shithole with a perma lying & hyper aggressive clown jew tyrant at the top. we should be glad russia goes in to clean that mess up.

>>513182049 (OP)
>On paper
Jews

>>513182049 (OP)
>this board should
wishful thinking

war is consequence of ignoring the fact that jews are parasites of humanity and all wars are organized by jews

blind eye to corruption lead to destruction on a large scale, war

>>513182049 (OP)
But it does. You're just distracted by 2016 reddit refugees and bunkerfags shouting extremely loudly, pretending to be the majority.

I dont support parasitism and right now ukraine is the most parasitic state with the most parasitic people on earth. Fight if you want, but not with my tax euros.

>>513182049 (OP)
fighting to be globohomo's bitch lmao

>>513182049 (OP)
Me personally I have stopped caring. Ukrainians because they are Slavic will never be actual le based national socialists.
They fought Germany.
Same for Russia.
Both are second world meme countries whose greatest aspiration was the USSR which was defeated in battle by a country the size of Texas then had to be kept alive by America.
It is terrible this war is so ugly. Worse than other wars. And many blue eyed people are being torn asunder in ugly ways. The least chivalrous war of all time and it does not even produce heroes. Spamming drones and artillery is ugly.
That said I think it would be funny if Russia won because it would cause mutts to seethe.

>>513182049 (OP)
>slavs
>white
>Jews
>Christian
>fairly conservative
>pride parades and troon spokesmen
>supported by WEF, UN, EU, glowies, Soros, Kagans, Rothschilds, Clintons etc
None of us has a dog in this third world slapfight, but it's hard not to notice that literally every single group that has been actively trying to exterminate actual white people for decades are on one side of it

>>513182049 (OP)
Its not baffling if you arent a shortsighted retard, a cuck or both:
>globohomo/the system is destroying europe, particulary with immigration
>therefore priority #1 is to be rid of it
>a defeat by Russia would be a big step towards its collapse
>therefore anons support it
Its about not being replaced with shitskins, nothing to do with democrats.
But you knrw that already, didnt you, you spineless faggot.

PS: ukrans and russians are 95% the same

>>513182668
Yeah yeah, it's totally about that

>>513182049 (OP)
Had you not been asleep for past 10+ years you tourist motherfucker you'd know better.

>>513182049 (OP)
Ukraine is the contradiction
>nazi but serves jewish president
>western democracy, but overthrew democratically elected government in CIA coup
>fighting for independence but is a puppet
>victim of aggression, but was waging war on its on Russian population

>>513182049 (OP)
NAFO did so much damage to the image of Ukraine

>>513182049 (OP)
Nobody gives a fuck about the Ukraine, t is a war pushed by the Obama and Biden administrations to try to fuck Russia, that's why the Ukraine is not supported here.

>>513182285
Christians literally worship a kike on a stick so it checks out

>>513182285
This, only a fool will support Ukraine becouse they are "le white"
Ukrainians are useful idiots, useful goyim

>>513182742
>sponsoring
Not actively catching them for free is "sponsoring" now, eat a dick.

>>513182742
>1990s-current: Jew-occupied governments flood Europe with tens of millions of niggers and muslims, jail anyone who complains
>2021: Belarus says "lol if you want them so bad you can have ours too"
>reddit: omg fellow chuds why is Russia flooding Europe with shitskins?
Jesus Christ you're so embarrassing

>>513182049 (OP)
Globohomo is supporting Ukraine and will fill Ukraine with pakis and Nigerians as soon as the war is over. They are dying so globohomo can jeet them.

>>513182797
you're overrestimating how much normies care about reddit memeshit. Only perpetually online retards even know about this stuff

>>513182049 (OP)
that's the current state of /pol/, people don't think for themselves because it's too hard, so instead they follow patterns. What pisses this or that type of people off ? what seemingly goes against the current / mainstream ? what does my political group democrats or republicans say (doesn't matter what they do) ?
it's not very consistent as evidenced by the epstein files situation, overnight the same people who asked for them for years are now fiercely fighting against any dissonant voice.
you'll also notice how quickly they try to categorize you (and me, for mentioning the epstein files), usually from the very first post. Usually they'll call you an enemy, usually some sort of minority, and that'll be how far their train of thought go, because you don't discuss with an enemy you just have to fight him, which is easier. Then follows an endless diatribe of insults, >quoting with reaction images, or infographic dumps.


that's modern /pol/ for you

>>513182049 (OP)
I see a post and it has a flag. It's a German flag. But who posted it? A Kurd? An Ukrainian? A Turk? Arab? Jew? An Albanian? An American military member? You don't know.

There are several flags like that. Canada is a great example too. I think they should just be added to memeflags at this point. I should be able to just post as one or another because the flag means nothing.

>>513182049 (OP)
The Russia "support" is just a psyop from Russia's 10-ruble army. They have whole buildings full of people who are paid to post stupid pro-Russian shit on forums.

Remember the original behind picrelated?

>>513182784
Fucking kek. It's true though. I would however add the following:
>Is Christian but has a talmudic leadership

>>513182742
i'm pretty sure you guys did literally invite them

>>513182049 (OP)
Trve patriots prefer to support someone that has vowed to break american hegemony so China, Russia and other BRICS can rule their little geopolitical fiefdom. They wonder why USA is losing steam but it's probably the libs fault.

>>513182049 (OP)
>white
>christian
lol
>fairly conservative
lmao

You're German so I can forgive you this once for being an easily propagandized fucking idiot.
Prior to the invasion, Ukraine was known as the corruption capital of the universe, whose upper strata was more or less comprised entirely of no-show jobs programs for the children of various elites, criminal sex traffickers and then a few oligarchs.
As the invasion happened, western country elites have tried to funnel all anti-government, racist sentiment feelings into supporting Ukraine (eg: Azov). When if you take a step back and look at things, you realize immediately that the country and everything in it is just being used as a disposable cudgel against a rival power because western powers ascribe almost no value at all to the people in Ukraine. In fact, the Ukrainian government itself holds no value to these people either, which is why it's now in an unwinnable war. What is worse than then sending soldiers to die in vain? Sending more to die in vain.

Knowing all this, why the fuck would anybody want to help them.
Notice too how this criticism ignores entirely any discussion on Russia or Russians, because that is a red herring to this criticism.

>>513182956
The funniest thing about that redditor argument is that it requires every European government since the 90s and including the current ones to be secret Russian agents, since they're bringing in more now than ever
It's so stupid as an argument that it could only be come up with by a place where they ban everyone who disagrees

>>513182859
Anon, Belarus is literally flying in refugees from Egypt and so on into their country

>>513182049 (OP)
>On paper, this board should absolutely support Ukraine
Ukies lost me when they started dictating how I'm supposed to write and pronounce their gay ass capital in English. It's been spelled Kiev and pronounced KEE-YEV since before I was born, and I don't give a fuck what Volodohodormyr says. I swear to God, they added an extra Y to his last name halfway through the war and I'm expected to believe it was always there. I'd sooner side with Satan himeslf than allow someone to gaslight me.

>>513182049 (OP)
Foreign invaders
>leader from KGB
>says that russia and israel are one country
>kisses quran
>let chechen beat whoever they want
>allied with chinks, muslims, niggers and jeets
>worships Stalin and Lenin
>wants to recreate USSR
This site is taken over by jeets who simp for russia

>>513182049 (OP)
>>european
>white
>nationalist
Ukrainians look like mix of Europeans with Mongols, and they are cringe

>fairly conservative
lol, nope, Ukraine is full on globohomo, they openly talk about importing 10 milion Jeets after the war

>>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
Donbass is Russian and Ukrainians planned to invade DPR and LPR before Russia got ahead of them

>>513182049 (OP)
>christian
Isn't Azov pagan?

>>513182049 (OP)
Ukraine isn't conservative or Christian you tard. Have you never seen a hohol before? They are tatted up, full of piercings and having sex at the ripe age of 14 (without getting married).
They are indeed nationalists, but unfortunately their national identity is just hatred for Russians and not much else.

>>513182049 (OP)
and yet my capital speaks russian now because it's filled with these so different from russians "ukrainians". Before 2014, they were called russian jews, now they are the brave democracy & freedom fighters against imaginary Mordor orcs. Go fuck yourself. This war is just another mass migration to EU to stagnate salaries and increase housing prices.

>>513182950
That's the least contradictory part, seeing as Christian's already worship a Jewish man as their god.

>>513182049 (OP)
Ask me how I know you're a newfag redditor who only started following the events from 2022 onwards, instead of the very beginning, from 2013.
>european
>white
>christian
So are the Boers in South Africa, yet nobody is doing shit for them for decades now.
>nationalist
Sure, the dickwangling kind, with no fucking base whatsoever. Ukraine is a rootless made-up meme country like Belarus, Slovakia, or Slovenia
>fairly conservative
lmao
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
Cuckraine and the west literally provoked the war with its color revolution.

>>513182049 (OP)
>east slavs
>white
Go home Dmitro

>>513183289
>Anon, Belarus is literally flying in refugees from Egypt and so on into their country
Are you trying to claim that every European government including all the current ones, since the 1990s, are Belarussian agents?
Because they're flooding Europe with tens of millions of muslims and niggers right now, more now than ever actually, and they've been doing that for decades, and they'll put you in prison if you complain about it in public

>>513183521
>Isn't Azov pagan?
they are useful idiots, imaginary religion doesn't play a part in that.

>>513182049 (OP)
On paper you are a faggot and can fuck off. In reality, let me check. It's the same you are a faggot and need to fuck off.

We never ever supported: NATO, EU, UN or any other nwo faggot organization.

Take your talmud and stick it up your ass.

>>513183632
>>Cuckraine and the west literally provoked the war with its color revolution.
Russia was funding separatists in Ukraine since 2005 via Russian presidential grants
Before the ink dried on their new border treaty, after they'd already had a border dispute, they were looking to destabilize Ukraine
You don't know what you are talking about. You are the kike.

>>513182864
Oh my sweet summer child if you even knew half of what's happening there.

Lukashenka I believe was trying to separate himself from the Russians somewhat prior to 2020 elections. There were several ways in which he was doing it - he put in jail the usual pro-Russian candidate(the elections are a sham but for whatever reason the opposition always sends their candidates, one would think you should just boycott them completely), talked big about the need to resuscitate the Belarusian language, signed some deals with China independently. Now I suspect the protests were supported by our glowies, and I suspect the local shill who's already ITT will call me Putin's agent for it(for some reason any person linking Belarusian opposition to our intelligence operations is shut down like that, just in case most of the opposition in exile people are in Poland right now), but it doesn't matter. What matters is that after the protests start Kremlin doesn't immediately give Luka a green light to put it down as it always did - no - the first statement went along the lines of Belarus deserves free and fair elections. Then Luka comes crawling to meet with the Russian delegation iirc in Mogilew and comes back with the green light and most likely a programme of deeper integration with the RF that starts shortly after the protests are put down - contradicting his campaign era statements. I believe Russians simply jumped on the occasion to the the noose tighter around Belarus but most people would just say that Lukashenka wanted it all along. You decide.

The border crisis is either Luka's revenge for what happened that Russians accept as fine, or just their own initiative it doesn't matter, but look closely at what happens and decide yourself - the route is extremely inefficient with limited throughput in comparison to more standard Balkan or Mediterranean crossing. It's also more inconvenient and slower because it takes time for them to filter through the border.

>>513182049 (OP)
I have nothing against the Ukrainian nor the Russian people. But Ukrainians have been absolutely insufferable online

>>513183713
>How dares Russia counter our glowies.
Great satan over here moralizing.

Even in this thread the slavs are fucking insufferable

>>513183713
Orange revolution didn't happen I guess.
>>513183732
>The border crisis is either Luka's revenge for what happened that Russians accept as fine, or just their own initiative it doesn't matter, but look closely at what happens and decide yourself - the route is extremely inefficient with limited throughput in comparison to more standard Balkan or Mediterranean crossing. It's also more inconvenient and slower because it takes time for them to filter through the border.
And to continue from that - if you wanted to just flood Europe you'd just help fund crossings through the existing routes. Russians support the same warlord in Libya as the French, so it should be rather simple thing to use him as a proxy for instance.

The key in the border crisis is that it attacks Poland. It's us who have to deal with the rabid leftists thinking niggers shouldn't be gunned down on sight, our government can grandstand on the border while flooding us with "legal" jeets and nogs(the previous government even sold them questionably legal visas, current one iirc just increased limits), the EU was a questionmark because if they felt like they're extra fruity that evening they could shut down one or another EU money pipe to us for it etc.

So it's a retarded glowie operation of limited effect that's imo. a revenge for our glowie op.

>>513183876
Slavs make a lot more sense when you realize they are light(er) skinned Mexicans
The HDI is the same, the corruption is the same, the love of violence and cruelty is the same

>>513182285
Yes, but those Jews are not dying, even if they did it would be nothing to the White Men who are dying.

>>513182617
fighting Germany 80 years ago is not that relevant. Hitler would probably say that whatever means this War comes to a quick end would be best. The Jews (on a Global Scale, not necessarily Ukrainian Jews in Power) have an interest in it being prolonged. People need to understand that just because Zelensky is Jewish, isn't the main issue here

>>513183797
>uhh it's actually trad and based to destabilize your neighbor by funding separatists in their country, whose funding organization is led by a kaballah kike, so that they don't join the EU and the serfs in the east don't look westward in 10 years and revolt when they understand what the owners of Russia do to them
>also it's SUPER BASED to shoot down airliners full of white europeans
kill yourself Bilal
>>513183896
orange revolution didn't happen before they started attempting to steal shit, kike. Tuzla Island incident. kill yourself.

>>513182809
>Christians literally worship a kike on a stick
Jesus was vehemently against pharisees, the prototype of what we call nowadays jews, or zionists as left-leaning people say

>>513182049 (OP)
You forgot to mention that its a jewish dictatorship

>>513182049 (OP)
>>513182934
Yep.
Most pro-russian posts come from either vatniks or shitskins that shill for russia.
Half of /pol/ is inorganic posting.

>>513182049 (OP)
>white
Only Hohols think that Hohols are white.
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
Most of the "foreign invaders" were literally born in Donetsk / Luhanks.

I support Ukraine because having it in EU and NATO will make us stronger. The white christian bullshit is for low IQs.

>>513184007
>nooo you stupid chuds this is supposed to work on you
Fuck off, reddit
Nobody here actually gives a fuck about third world slapfights, but it is too obvious to ignore that every single group or person who's spent the last 30 years trying to destroy white civilization are on one side of it

>>513183921
>the love of violence and cruelty is the same

My sister can freely walk in any street in any city at any time of the night. Can you say the same?

>>513184007
>Uhh it's actually based to destabilize the world by funding separatists wherever i want to steal something.
>Uhh it's super based to bring in wehabis to kill Christians in Europe.
>Uhhh it's super based being the military for the international jew.
>Uhh it's super based to make a criminal muslim state in Europe.
All the while moralizing. You golem are ridiculous.

>>513184103
Why would you want to make our leaders stronger? They hate us

>>513184094
> Most of the "foreign invaders" were literally born in Donetsk / Luhanks.
Interesting how all Russian army was born in Donetsk

They voted a gay clown to be president.

>>513184007
>orange revolution didn't happen before they started attempting to steal shit, kike. Tuzla Island incident. kill yourself.
First you have a problem with them funding people in the aftermath of the orange revolution, now you're moving the goalpost back to Tulza, do you really want me to drag you around mr eglin special?

>>513184010
off topic, but the anti-Jewish elements of Christianity don't translate to anti-Jewish action or sentiment in modern Christians so it's not really a point in Christianity's favor. Sure the Church was somewhat anti-Semitic 200+ years ago, but that doesn't help us right now.

In general Christianity in 2025 tends to encourage philo-Semitism. That isn't to say everything about Christianity is bad, but that's how I see the issue right now with Jews controlling our countries.

despite what you would think looking at /pol/ or twitter most people support Ukraine, maybe they're opposed to sending weapons/money but they're not in favour of Russia

The few who actually are in favour of Russia fall into these categories (with possible overlap)
1. Propagandists/politicians seduced or even directly paid by Russia (Tim Pool, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, a good chunk of European far left/right figureheads, etc)
2. Retards who are receptive to the trad Christian memes (/pol/, twitter)
3. Insane people (Jackson Hinkle, Gonzalo Lira, etc)

Then you also have the global south who hates Europe/the US no matter what.
This is the spectrum of Russia supporters.

I've never seen a single one who doesn't fit in this paradigm which is normal, because it's impossible to actually logically come to the conclusion that Russia is in the right, either you are mentally impaired or you have a personal interest in Russia. That's it

>>513184149
You Yugos might not be so bad, but those swap/steppe niggers to the east are just Mexicans
Taras circling a POW with a drone before blowing his legs off is just the slav version of Paco cutting up a rival cartel soldier with a chainsaw

>>513184196
>First you have a problem with them funding people in the aftermath of the orange revolution
>Oh no, Yushchenko won, was elected, better start funding separatists, and then poison him.
Kill yourself, kike. Give even a single source that "le big bad west" funded your dumbfuck strawman in 2005.
>Eglin
You are a retarded subhuman kike.

>>513184223
unfortunately a lot of White Nationalists support Russia simply because Zelensky is Jewish and the general West being seen as Jew controlled, which is true, but is Putin really threatening Jewish power?

I am not convinced of that at all

Meanwhile the suffering in the War continues

>>513184229
Kek
Whereas you would send him your second to discuss the choice of arms and place, like all civilised people tend to do in an armed conflict happening on their land.
All fucking invaders must fucking die.

>>513183579
Talmudic judaism constantly attacks and curses Christians and Jesus Christ himself. So no, that makes no sense at all whatsoever. When you add the talmud and reject the NT you get something completely different. Jesus was Jewish indeed, he was however not a talmudist.

Reminder that all eurasianists and those who support Russia are subhuman kikes

>>513184209
To be exact the anti-semitism in Christian churches was generally rugged out by the mid 1960's.
You will find unlimited amounts of pastor bobs and vagenes in Nowheresborough, Illinois preaching otherwise to 3 guys and a monkey forming his Independant Baptist Church of South-Centre-Western-Northern-Southern Dixieland, but that's a schizo, his 3 friends and a monkey. Institutional clergy and theology(and that includes clerical educational institutions) generally is philosemitic. The Catholics with even more of a structure it's even simpler, Pope one day said that "oikos"(people) gathered around Roman governors palace in Judea during jewish holiday which traditionally allowed them to release one prisoner were just "people" not some particular people and that one day these "people" stopped being jewish.

>>513184391
Obviously as a white nationalist you should support bringing peace in there as soon as possible, neither side is pro white but still white people are dying

>>513182049 (OP)
yurofag liberal seething at muh putler, instance 9999999

>>513184345
So now that we've established who you are, how obnoxious are the obligatory military shawneequas in the desk jobs? Care to tell us some cool stories about them chimping out?

>>513184447
>uhh ackshually these separatists in ukraine were actually organic and trad and based
>please ignore the flags they're flying from their first attempt at getting signatures for their referendum, each attempt which failed miserably
>n-no, I can't name any "separatist" rally in which more than two dozen people attended

>>513184229
It's more of a jewish version. We've had Austrians build monuments to our military after taking Belgrade. There is still a sense of chivalry here. Even though is fleeting.

Let me tell you a secret, I fucking hate Russians (including Ukranians). But I just miss this opportunity of calling out reddit tier shilling.

>>513183632
>Ask me how I know you're a newfag redditor who only started following the events from 2022 onwards, instead of the very beginning, from 2013.
>accused others of being historylets
>history only started for him in 2013
Lmao
Never stops being funny. Bet you think 2014 was also the first and only protest

>>513184517
>p-please ignore the flag, it's definitely not a kike organization

>>513182049 (OP)
I kinda want them to just take a little more land so that we become neighbors with Russia, at the black sea, would be kinda cool and probably good for the economy.

>>513184512
Right, I accept your concession kike. You cannot provide a single source.

>>513182285
But enough about Russia

>>513184392
>All fucking invaders must fucking die.
Yep, you're a perfect example. Mexican.
Literally too dumb and angry to understand why good treatment of POWs actually benefits everyone, which is exclusively a white concept

>>513182049 (OP)
>european
untermensch
>white
slavshit
>christian
kosher christian
>nationalist
kosher nationalist
>fairly conservative
kosher conservative
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
hobo who doesn't pays rent and gas bills terrorizes his people being evicted by the Landlord
...
>supported by democrats
supported by globohomo and the same media who pushed vax on me locked me down and wanted me dead
FIFY
THATS IT I SUPPORT RUSSIA

>>513184607
It's not likely that they can landlock uruuyuikraine. Unless there is a massive internal collapse.

>>513184632
So there's two of you! Or is it just one guy switching IP's? No matter. Maybe you can tell me about black military women chimpout. They work in the same office you must have seem some stupid nigger shit there!

>>513182049 (OP)
>>european
>>white
>>christian
>>nationalist
>>fairly conservative
you will have to go back pidor

>>513184647
Huh? Shemolova Semolina?

>>513184722
I'm on mobile, you fucking retarded nigger.
Again, your concession is accepted. Not one single source. You lost. Now attempt to defend funding separatists through kike organizations from Russian presidential grants and justify the shooting down of an airliner full of White europeans.

>>513184659
Yep, my name is Paco Roaldo Sanches-Ramirez and I live in a large mexican colony called Lunník IX.
Motherfucker ...
> POW
And a retard.
What a perfect example of the settler stock, you aren't.

>>513184779
>I'm on mobile, you fucking retarded nigger.
I forgot you guys have like 50 phones in front of you instead of single PC sorry.
>Not one single source.
Look at my posts and your responses to them and show me where did you ask me for sources, but at this point I don't care. Funny office stories. Nigger women chimpouts but in military. You see this shit because no way they're sending shawneequas to do grunt jobs, you can do something nice and write memorable shitposts or continue shilling like a tool.

>>513182049 (OP)

Like half of the board does support Ukraine, the other half is against it mostly because they would be against anything that supposedly aligns with US foreign policy.

>>513182049 (OP)
Exactly.
The most bluepilled and redpilled people support Ukraine. It’s literally the bell curve meme but for how little or how much you are redpilled. People that are only a little redpilled support Russia because they aren’t based enough to realize how big of a mistake the system is making by supporting Ukraine.

If you don’t recognize the mistake that the system is making by supporting Ukraine, then you need at least another decade of research. Only the real ones love Ukraine. SLAVA NAZI!

>>513182521
What did this board think back in 2014 in /ug/? Unlike you I was around for that and we were pro Russia.

>>513184426
Rabbinic Judaism is just an evolution of Pharisee Jews after the temple was destroyed. The Torah and Tanakh (ie the Old Testament) is still the foundational text containing the divine law and prophecies. Talmud is commentary, recording of oral tradition, and rabbis arguing about how Torah law should be interpreted and applied in specific situations.

Christianity is just another offshoot of Judaism. They both worship YHWH, the god of Abraham. Christians believe the Jewish messiah already came, Jews disagree. Both share the same end time prophecy and are waiting for the messiah to return/come.

Talmudic Jews and Christians attacking each other is ultimately Jewish infighting.
>reeee you killed our jewish messiah!
>reeee your false messiah is a son of a whore!

>>513182049 (OP)
>support a kike leader
lmao. fuck off retard.

>>513184779
>gets caught VPN'ing
>nooooooooooooo chuds you're supposed to buy this argument
>everyone in the discord thought it would work on you!
lol

>>513184831
You're a beaner who lives in a Third World shithole, and are so 85-IQ you can't understand why good treatment of POWs is good policy
I'll explain it, but you stil won't get it: An enemy expecting good treatment if he surrenders is likely to surrender. An enemy expecting to be tortured or made into an internet drone snuff film is not going to surrender. You want to make it easy for them to surrender to you.

>>513184831
that image is a sad truth. I don't really like being anti-Christian, doesn't feel quite right since there are many positive aspects of it. I understand why the Nazis took the approach they did, not really bothering with Christianity as much as they could and attempting to rebrand it into Positive Christianity which is just Aryans National Socialism.

>>513182049 (OP)
>european
Varangian
>white
Slav
>christian
Not in action
>nationalist
Modern EU/NATO joiners aren't nationalist
>fairly conservative
It's conservative to have more of your women prostitute across a continent than any other country?
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
The only reason Russia had an opening was from Ukraine bombing and shooting their own citizens in the SouthEast for voting the wrong way and having old soviet grandparents that weren't dead yet.

It'd be like brits being uppity at France in 2025 for helping American independence, kek.

>>513184947
Noo, you are a zigger.

Ukraine wants a new base for invasion and manipulation, think of the benefits of being next door to Romania with such open lines, Romania would be instantly gone from the Washington-Bruxelles axis, permanently and that's just one obvious example.
They probably see the economical gains from this as making up from ending up owning a rump state after Ukraine is done with. They can probably replace the missing people with rapid breeding sub 90 IQ Muslims to be fair.

>>513184947
They've got like the same 8 screenshots that they endlessly recycle while everyone laughs at them

>>513182285
That’s an interesting way to describe Russia but I agree

>>513182049 (OP)
At least you're not speaking German.

>>513182049 (OP)
You underestimate how
A) retarded /pol/ is
B) many falseflagging rusbots are active on this website
C) poorly anons here inform themselves
Which makes it pretty easy to make em support vatniks for whatever backwards head reason WE MUST SUPPORT RUSSIA (AND ISRAEL) BECAUSE WE HATE KIKES UOOOOH, thats pretty much /pol/

>>513184888
No, I'm tethering right now. Cope and seethe, fucking retard. You replied to the post >>513184345
>>513184512
You lost. Not a single source. Can't name an instance of a rally which had more than a dozen attendees for your failed abortion that was being funded through a kike organization via Russian presidential grants. Can't justify the shooting down of an airliner full of White europeans.
You'll inevitably cope about "muh trade union" building somewhere down the line, attempting to defend subhuman Antifa leftists burning themselves alive, despite the fact that Crimea was annexed before that and Girkin invaded the Donbas with Russian soldiers before that.
The hallmark of the subhuman kikes, like you, who defend Russia destabilizing their neighbor, annexing territory, and then moving to a full invasion when their destabilization tactics failed just shows what you are.

>>513184958
isn't putin's mother called shemolova? didn't israel avoid if not voted against resolutions at the UN to condemn the invasion of ukraine?

>oh but not those jews, the other jews!
make up your mind brother

>>513182049 (OP)
Its easy.
You pick the side with the lowest propensity of jews.
Russia preserve a historical perspective of all things Jewish.
The west is pseudo-naive about such things.

>>513185065
>shelomova

>>513182049 (OP)
Fuck you kike. You know the American empire is pro-queer and anti-white and Ukraine has an American (AKA Jewish) puppet government.

>>513185036
> Can't name an instance of a rally which had more than a dozen
Oh wow, you startyed following this in 2022 and don't remember the anti Maidan protests? Who was it getting firebombed in Odessa?

>>513183632
I for one support the state sovereignty of every nationality.

>>513185145
>Who was it getting firebombed in Odessa?
Subhuman antifa leftists who burned themselves alive.
>You'll inevitably cope about "muh trade union" building somewhere down the line, attempting to defend subhuman Antifa leftists
Girkin invaded before that. Crimea was annexed before that.
Anti-maidan was not separatists, you fucking retarded subhuman. You're literally showing them flying Ukrainian flags. Jesus christ, what a retard. Do you huff gasoline, or are you a chink?

>>513182049 (OP)
Whites are the ones who support Ukraine
This board is effectively 85% turdie BRICS bot spam now, and brown turdies are pro russia
Nu/pol/ isn't White, so it makes sense

>>513185244
That's a chink, they like aussie flags

>>513185222
Checked and this but you cant have sovereignity if you have a jewish dictator in a white country, they should have no business being involved in european politics

>>513182049 (OP)
it was provoked as a prank and perpetrated by the same people who destroyed nordstream, the ending of which is sucking massive amounts of wealth out of your society because the vassal loyalists you align with are cultural colonized USA#1 cucks just like you.
have some fucking self-respect instead of being ZOG's bitch.

>>513185127
are you saying she wasn't jewish? speak up

>>513182797
>NAFO did so much damage to the image of Ukraine
Exactly! NAFO and the EU roasties.

>>513184964
>doesn't feel quite right since there are many positive aspects of it.
Problem is now that people can read the bible for themselves, you can't have a "based" version that conveniently ignores parts you don't like.

I also understand why the nazis attempted Positive Christianity, but I don't see how it could work, seeing as it would be obvious the government is trying to censor 'the word of god'. You can't erase previous versions out of existence and memory.

>>513182797
>>513185412
NO! Not their image. This tells me the first time you niggers learned about Ukuyyukrauine was on tv a few years ago.

>>513184964
There aren't any that didn't come from the people i.e., it is the "magic book" argument similar to "magic dirt" when it comes to Europe and niggers.
Christianity was designed to be a tool for conquering the goyim, for replacing their divine protection by a servitude to jewish god, to allow jews to participate in usury while prohibiting the natives from doing so, and serving as an antagonist making jewry even more in-group and nepotistic, while guaranteeing their survival by this and by "before the end, jews will convert or will have to die".
> Nazis
Kirchenkampf. Our best soldiers weren't burried in graves with a cross on the top.
Oh well.

>>513185120
>>513185141
The West is naive, but the West has more to lose from a White Nationalist perspective. Russia has good racial elements but doesn't hide that it's a Eurasian empire rather than Nationalist stronghold. Russia isn't really that good on the Jewish question right now either, that's wishful thinking in my opinion.

Also, let's say Russia had a legitimate reason for its Special Operation.. at what point is Russia no longer dealing with an issue along its border and simply trying to take Ukrainian land without caring about the consequences? Including that of their own soldiers

I feel like we passed the point of Russia having a good reason a long time ago, considering the loss of life up to this point. That said I understand there are not always easy exit ramps in Wars, but I don't know. Why didn't Russia just end after 1 months and tell Ukraine to knock off whatever they're up to or it'll happen again?

>>513182784
>a straightforward CIA-orchestrated coup overthrowing a stable democracy without broad public involvement
proof?

>>513182049 (OP)
Western news are making it difficult to stay sympathetic. Blunt rage bait lies non-stop. Literal insult to anyone's cognitive ability.

Ukrainians are white slavs and russian are snow niggers? I like race theory

>>513185659

>>513182302
>You’re fighting for chechens to forcibly convert Christians to Islam via the prison system (state mandated, Christians gets thrown into prisons run by Muslims who openly use it to torture Christians into converting to Islam)
>You’re fighting for Moscow to be flooded with central Asians and Africans
>You’re fighting for the literal perestroika deception and the re-establishment of the Soviet Union
>You’re fighting for Eastern Europe to be controlled by a state that wants to exterminate white people off the face of the earth (Nazis are le ebil and heckin bad)
>You’re fighting for the “basedTM” African countries to free themselves from the monetary buck-breaking known as the France-afrique agreement
>You’re fighting for natural resources that will be used to finance yachts for Jewish billionaires and finance socialist parties in Latin America that hate white people
>You’re fighting for a government that imprisons nationalists and has the FSB film themselves raping the prisoners with lead pipes and post it online.
>You’re fighting for a government that will gang stalk you, prevent you from conducting business or having a job just because your metadata shows that you watched too many navalny videos

You are fighting for a government who’s #1 objective is to fight Nazism because it’s #1 objective is to exterminate the white race off the face of the earth and wipe out your own people by replacing you with 500 million Africans (but at least they speak Russian and watch Andrew tate so their based).

You are fighting for less than nothing. You are fighting for your own extermination. Never forget that you closeted faggot.

>>513182049 (OP)
Nobody wants to support the loser side.

Ukraine lost, Poland's next, Baltics are toast, and it's not US or western Europe's problem.

>>513182049 (OP)
There's some things you forgot about Ukraine
>has Jewish president
>is supported by globohomo
>the biggest winners of the war are the US, China and India while Europe financially suffering the most

Pretty convenient not mentioning these things huh? Respond, faggot.

>>513182049 (OP)
On paper, the left should've absolutely rejected the vaccine
>made and distributed by big, capitalist corporations
>shilled by the mainstream non-stop
>partially enforced by many governments
>intransparency about harmful effects
>draconian punishments for dissenters

>>513182049 (OP)
>>european
maybe gegraphically speaking, but culturally nah, hence urge to join EU
>>white
less and less, also it is yellow shade of white (Tatars)
>>christian
but not Catholic
>>nationalist
fascist even, so no
>>fairly conservative
maybe at grass level, top is LGBT
>>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
provoked by themselves frankly
>>supported by the democrats
it is red flag actually

>>513185553
> implying
Either you think NPCs are sentient (insult to cognitive capability), or you just admitted to being influenced by propaganda.

>>513182049 (OP)
Ukrainians are Russian (minorities from Hungary, Romania and Poland not included, imagine saying half of Germany isn't German because they only reunified a couple decades ago. Ignoring the previous hundreds of years of history.

>>513185903
Your president just imported 100,000 Africans just like Putin who importants millions into Moscow.

How many millions of Africans has Ukraine imported?

>>513186010
Imports*

>>513182125
Because the latest pet-peeve by libturds is Gaza

>>513182809
go hug your tree god
heh, you cannot, we made from it stick you mentioned
who is stronger then?

>>513182049 (OP)
go back to the trenches draft dodging hohol.

>>513182049 (OP)
This board is and always has been a russian pedo den

>>513182523
Have you seen certain nations in EU?
Also you krautniggers are our biggest parasites atm pushing our energy prices up because you colossal retards was scared of nuclear energy. Actual morons.

>>513182049 (OP)
It proved that online right-wing spaces are completely controlled by Russia.
Being against Russia is now left-wing coded. A disgusting, crime-ridden corrupt authoritarian state full of drug addicts where ethnic Russians are transported to Czechen prisons for disrespecting the Quran.
The only explanation for that is total subversion.

>>513186010
The president of Slovenia is a nobody and I don't think he has a say to who can be imported into EU. If you think Von der Layen I agree she is a corrupt bitch who has to be removed but guess what? She is part of the globohomo supporting the Jewkraine.

>>513185930
Your operating from the idea that the left holds genuine opinions rather than the reality that they are inherently cowards who simply hold the perceived popular opinion.

If the TV said it’s time to be racist, they would be racist and we know that because they were racist to Muslims after 911 despite being viciously opposed to it and all other forms… just as the media demanded of them.

>>513182049 (OP)
There is nothing "European" about the EU or its golem like Ukraine and the UK.

>>513186179
That's not the only reason. Like I said above a lot of guys who are aware of the Jewish Problem support Putin simply because Zelensky and the West are Jewish, but the realities of Russia would not be that appealing to most Nationalists. Also Russia is not good on the Jewish Problem, regardless of how much the West is Jew controlled

>>513186180
My bad, I mistook your flag as Serbian. Didn’t realize you are Slovenian lol my bad, I take back my statement

>>513185988
>imagine saying half of Germany isn't German
If majority of East Germany suddenly said they are an independent nation, then yes.
Besides…why is Austria its own nation? Do you consider Austrians identical to eg. low-land Germans?

>>513185341
which is why russia will never be accepted in Europe

>>513185506
The west, more specifically the oligarchs that own and rule the west, fear socialism more than anything. That's what will dispossess them of their ill gotten wealth. Making the west less white, aside from the economic benefits, is to create easily exploitable division.

>Russia has good racial elements but doesn't hide that it's a Eurasian empire rather than Nationalist stronghold.
They inherited a multi ethnic empire, and sought to integrate rather than impose slavic supremacy like the west did with incorporated territories.

>Russia isn't really that good on the Jewish question right now either
Better than the west imo. Jews raped Russia after the fall of the USSR. Putin's made a lot of progress putting the oligarchs in check. There's a vid of him giving an audience of Rabbis a stern lecture about how the Bolsheviks were mostly Jewish, and they betrayed the motherland by backstabbing in the middle of WW1. You'd never see a US politician addressing Jews like that.

> at what point is Russia no longer dealing with an issue along its border and simply trying to take Ukrainian land without caring about the consequences? Including that of their own soldiers
It's existential. Allowing Ukraine to get fully incorporated into NATO, with missiles stationed that close to Moscow, would be a knife to their throat.

>>513186179
Exactly.
The Russian government needs to be overthrown by nationalists. Who cares about the risk of nuclear civil war, the Russian government is conspiring to wipe out their own people

>>513185252
Fuck you. I'm white and the ukies can eat shit.

>>513186397
>better than the west in my opinion
Bro, the FSB films videos of themselves raping nationalist prisoners with lead pipes and posts it online as a warning to not be antisemitic.

You are filled to the brim with propaganda.

>>513186313
>Also Russia is not good on the Jewish Problem
the level of jew control is proxied by the level of sodomy legalization, russia has been moving away from that

>>513182049 (OP)
Don't tell me who to support, they are both awful. Not everyone is on one faggot side or the other.

>>513185971
>less and less, also it is yellow shade of white (Tatars)
It's funny that Ukrainians see Russians as asiatic orcs, when Kiev was raped harder by the Mongols than any other Slavic city.

>>513186494
Good morning ranjeet

>>513186502
GOOD MORNING SAAR

>>513186397
>with missiles stationed that close to Moscow, would be a knife to their throat.
Aren't you tired of repeating this retarded point when Finland is like 50km distance from the second largest Russian city?

>>513186397
I don’t want nato stationed at Russia's border. I want nato occupying the fucking place. Moscow props up every leftist and anti-white movement on Planet earth. They are a cancer

>>513186572
Okay unibrow nation.

>>513186555
If that were true, Sandeep, why does every other russian look like this?

>>513182049 (OP)
Lmao Russia is the biggest country in Europe. And the most populated.

>>513186622
Um Canada is like 60% white. They import Indians in massive numbers.

Russia is the country with the largest white population.

>>513185506
Indeed, if Russia had just taken Donbass, and stopped -- nobody outside of Ukraine would have cared. It would have been a replay of Crimea in 2014.
But no, they had to try taking the whole country.
So we got this colossal war.
Whatever sympathies people had for Russia disappeared when they tried to do this stupid thing.

>>513182049 (OP)
Its one of the most natural in human nature things, to be for Good and to be against Evil. If you refure, you arent even human.

And it happened that you and Ukrainian regime are EVIL, while Russia is fighting ont he side of GOOD. There is no two meanings, theres no gray zone. Its simple as that and facts of reality.

You can try to spread propaganda and lie, but eventually truth becomes obvious and yoru narrative will fall apart and people find way to Good and become repulsed with your EVIL.

>>513182049 (OP)
>goy, you must support new Israel
>goy, you have to pick a side in brother wars that we started.
No

>>513185506
Um Russia is a European empire dude.

Russians are not native to Siberia. They conquered it in 16th century.

>>513186369
Why single out Russia only? All of our countries need sovereignity

>>513186527
You are retarded. There are 2 sides, one is pro-white and the other is anti-white. There is no both sides argument here. Russia is evil.

>>513186622
NATO is leftist.

>>513186777
>777
Holy trips of truth
Russia confirmed evil.

>>513186397
> The west, more specifically the oligarchs that own and rule the west, fear socialism more than anything.
funiest thing ITT
thanks

>>513182049 (OP)
>Ukraine
>european
>white
>christian
>nationalist
>fairly conservative
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
Ukraine doesn’t fit literally ANY of these brackets lul
Get fuuuuuckeeeeeeed ukranny hwyte aryans

>>513186777
so much this
xD

OP is an Oinker

>>513186397
There are different tiers to the "oligarchs" that control the West. On some level many of them fear Socialism as you describe, even some Jews. But the general impetus of the Jew is not simply towards wealth but opposing the survival and Sovereignty of the White Race.

>Putin gave a stern lecture to Jews
Maybe he did. But the general atmosphere in Russia is far from Sovereign resistance to Jewish influence, especially what the average Russian experiences in what they can say and do.

>allowing Ukraine to be incorporated into NATO would be a huge threat to Russia
Ok I can entertain that idea. That definitely seems possible. However that still doesn't mean the bloody nature of this War is worth it from our perspective, but I'm open minded to that line of reasoning

>>513182049 (OP)
Lmao since when is Russia not European?

Germans are getting dumber everyday.

I unconditionally support Ukraine.

Don't care about your mental gymnastics, allowing Russia to expand it's power at the expense of Eastern European states isn't stopping the great replacement, so all your appeals to jews/globohomo are meaningless to me.

>>513186777
>jewish dictatorship
>pro white

>>513186607
Finland is retarded for ditching neutrality and volunteering to be ground zero. If things go nuclear, none of this matters anyway. Ukraine was orders of magnitude more serious of a threat for anything below the nuclear threshold.

>>513182049 (OP)
>european
so is Turkey
>white
they're both Slavs
>nationalist
(((patriotic)))
>fairly conservative
KEK
>defending its homeland against a foreign invader
true

But at the end of the day it's Slav autism, you don't pick sides between Bosnians, Croats and Serbs right anon?

>>513182049 (OP)
Isn't Russia like the biggest country in Europe?

>>513186720
Are you fucking insane? You go to jail in Russia for holding the opinions you hold, you get thrown out of the window of your apartment building, they forcibly convert you to Islam if your Christian.

They are an anti-Christian anti-white super state running a psyop on people like you to convince you to support your biggest arch enemy: The literal fucking KGB which now owns and runs everything in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union

>>513186926
/thread

>>513186855

>>513185971
It's so funny when people call East Slavs Tatar when in fact they're pretty much identical with Poles besides certain Russians having Finno-Ugric ancestry.

>>513186744
Go protest Islam. Oh wait you can’t…

>>513186969
Yes it is. Russia makes up 40% of Europe

>>513186770
Shhhh that messes with the kremlin’s propaganda. The entire legitimacy of the Russian state depends on you not perceiving Russians as Europeans despite being white.

>>513182049 (OP)
i "support" ukraine. now what? i'm not gonna risk my life for it. neither will you.

>>513186720
>unironic saviors of the White Race post
Retard, half of russia's population (140 million) is asiatic/turk mudslimes. They are also the only ones having children in russia. Russia is a shitskin nation that will only get more brown.

>>513182049 (OP)
Russians are native to Europe you dumb retard.

>>513186939
Russia is importing millions of central Asians and Africans every single year.

How many Africans has Zelenskyy imported?

>>513182049 (OP)
No, we are not going to support a corrupt jew run shithole that is supported by the great satan America. I will have sympathies with the civilians of Ukraine that has to suffer this endless wars and the soldiers that has to die in the trenches. Otherwise fuck off and I am hoping for a Russian victory.

>>513187157
You are right of course, but we are choosing to talk about it and understand the situation better I guess

>>513187172
What are you smoking? Even Siberia is 85% Slavic.

>>513187218
plenty before the war, they just scurried like rats when the war broke out

>>513187218
Russia's white population increased by 6 million with the addition of recently conquered territories.

>>513187172

>>513186789
Only the western half. The eastern half is insanely based. Infinitely more based than Russia has ever been

>>513182049 (OP)
>support the fictional NATO globohomo buffer state, it’s totally huwite and Christian!
Nah

>>513187254
>here's your 85% slav, bro!

Ukrainians are much more dark sinned than Russians. Probably from Scythian blood.

>>513182049 (OP)
The leader is a globalist appointed leftist Jew homosexual that tried to get Trump impeached, Ill never forgive the Ukrainian people for that.

>>513187234
that's just a lazy view in my opinion. Russia is not good on the Jewish Problem, and Jews in Ukraine and America are not the ones dying.

>>513186855
Go to red square and hold up a “it’s okay to be white” sign and see how quick the FSB casually escorts you into the office.

>>513187355
Cherrypicking some random minority lol.

>>513182049 (OP)

hohols are neither white, nor christian, nor european, nor a nation, nor even human

they are pigs, kosher pigs

>>513187379
like if Russia went back to Soviet Union borders in Europe, would that be good for us? I don't really see any reason to believe that

>>513187410
>y...you're just c....cherry-picking!!!!
you're just chinese and these guys are maybe 1% Whiter than you. That doesn't make them White to Europeans

>>513187480
Soviet Union includes Stan shitholes.I don't think Russia wants that.

They want Belarus and Ukraine.

>>513187466
Yes Azov was supported by some Jews, so you are going to cheer on the death of Ukraine male population and plenty of decent Russians too.. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense

>>513182357
This but unironically. Always do the opposite of what the jews say

>>513182521
This might be my most favourite screencap of all times ever. Keep in mind that VaushV autists and some of the leftist birds of a feather were headbumping themselves into walls by that time (2022) trying to find a way to make natsees hate Putin rofl

>>513187505
Those are Native Siberians son.

You do know Finns and Hungarians originated from Asia right?

>>513182049 (OP)
Western Europe is the source of everything wrong, Russia and USA becoming allies will change the world and drastically lower energy prices and set in motion events to create a golden age of humanity

>>513187556
Azov was founded by a Jew Don and whoever supports it is a turbo kike. Gladio larpers get fuuuuckeeeeed

>>513187505
>tf
>tp
>hohol talks about being European
An experienced unbeknownst to you kek

>>513182049 (OP)
How is it nationalist to be openly ruled by Jews and seek to join EU. Ukrops started it anyway

>>513182285
But they’re basically sending young Christian men and women to the meat grinder, in a country where there has been a population decline for decades. That doesn’t mean you go against Ukraine because there is a kike at the Center wanting to use that opportunity to turn another beautiful country into a Muslim and Nigger filled shithole.

>>513187505
Italians look like Arabs, that doesn't mean they are not Europeans

Spaniards and Portuguese have Moorish blood.

Balkans have Turkish blood.

Etc.

>>513187627
beside the point, Azov having Jewish connections leading to supporting this slow grind War now over 3 years is retarded.

>>513187583
>Finns and Hungarians originated from Asia
And yet they are still much Whiter on average than the average ruslime. Why is that? All the mongoloid rape?

>>513186926
This. Not only that, but Russia is a central component and engine of the great replacement, most of the boats bringing the migrants into Greece are operated by the Russian mafia

>>513187710
Lol delusional.

Northern Russians and Finns looks pretty much the same. Putin for example looks very Finnic.

>>513187294
Fantastic, kabib needs new wives. They will all be forcibly converted to Islam and married off to chechens and African migrants imported into the occupied territories

>>513182049 (OP)
I support Ukraine and Palestine, simply because Russia and Israel are the obvious aggressors. It amazes me the double standard the world has had to the Russian invasion and the Israeli genocide.

>>513182049 (OP)
>trying to locate logic in /pol/
lol

>>513187218
Both Russia and Ukraine need new leadership as soon as possible imo, jews have no business being in leadership positions over europeans

>>513182049 (OP)
This board is full of browns and commies.

>>513187262
Ukraine was 99% white before the war began

>>513187583
Ni hao

>>513187662
>everyone who doesn't like ruslimes is a hohol
You're coping as millions of your countrymen die in high definition for jewtin's palace

>>513187810
Give Kosovo back to Serbia then. It's their rightful lands.

>>513186051
Right, so all the conservatives that are pushing for aipac and its ilk to fuck off are imaginary? Shut up kike your pilpul sucks

>>513187866
Nigga, have you ever seen an Ukrainian? They look like Turks.

Today, I will remind them.

>>513183686
Confirmed homo, opinion rendered null and void. Next.

>>513187880
I don't own either country to do so, and not relevant to the current conflicts. Good try though, shillbot 5000.

>>513186909
I'm talking about a socialist revolution, and nationalization of their business empires, not welfare checks and shabby public health care socialism. That's the biggest threat to all tiers of oligarch.

Western oligarchs are white. Even the Jews. Netenyahu is Polish and probably has as much Semitic DNA as Elizabeth Warren has Native American DNA.

The anti-white aspects are less about destroying European ethnos, and more about divide and conquer so such revolutionary conditions can never arise. Profit is also a big factor that meshes perfectly, importing masses drives down the cost of labor, and increases demand to prop up the bubble.

>But the general atmosphere in Russia is far from Sovereign resistance to Jewish influence
Agreed. They're not overtly anti-jewish, they often concede to Jewish interests (holocaust denial laws, israel, etc), but unlike the west they're not trying to choke themselves to death deep throating jewish cock.

> However that still doesn't mean the bloody nature of this War is worth it from our perspective, but I'm open minded to that line of reasoning
Our perspective is very soft. How many men did US and Canada lose fighting WW2? We never had our homes bombed and razed by enemy soldiers. Russia sacrificed 20-30 million people to fend off the last invasion from the west. Our notion of war is expeditionary, theirs is existential.

>>513182049 (OP)
Russians are definitely more fair skinned and blonder than Ukrainians. This is not even a debate.

>>513187616
The only thing Russia wants to cooperate with the west on is fighting Nazism.

nafo troons on suicide watch
globohomo on death row

>>513187724
Anon you don't actually believe the "Russian" mafia is ethnic Russians do you? Look into some of those early life sections of the well known bosses and members

>>513187853
some threads aren't too bad. The main issue with /pol/ is the semi-porn and gore that pushes some of our guys away. Most of us are on Telegram these days but there are still some level headed people here. I don't know, the internet in general is kind of exhausting for "normal" people and 4chan is an extreme version of that sometimes. But this is still one of the few places you can have fruitful discussions on certain topics

>>513182287
No. He's right. People stopped caring when Israel was attacked "for no reason", and then they cared even less when they found out that there was in fact a reason.
And as for why I don't care: I had hoped all this time that they would stop following jews, but it seems they would all rather die, so now I don't care. Don't like it? Too bad.

>>513187394
Go to maydayn and hold up a “stop vanning White Christians like they’re some niggers in a 3rd tier African warlord country” sign and see how quick you get casually vanned yourself
>>513187876
>everyone who doesn’t like ukranny pidoranny is a ruzzian mongol jewish orc
So what? White Christian Nazi people of Ukraine get treated, vanned and forcefully kept in their country like some goy cattle by their own superiors and you blame Russians for it? Preach
>>513187922
>give in to butthurtbelter wet dream scenario saaaar!
Yawn. We need Bucha 2

>>513187667
Because Russia wants to flood Ukraine with millions of Chechens, central Asians and African migrants and Ukrainians don’t want that.

>>513182049 (OP)
Also OP needs geography lessons.

He doesn't seem to know that Russia is the biggest country in Europe.

Fight the war yourself you feminine faggots, the war was never winnable and is not our responsibility. Seething eurofags crying about daddy America not supporting their colonial project in Ukraine after decades of talking shit and crying about our militarism, literally suck our dicks. This is the TRADITIONAL American viewpoint, it was only by an invasion of Jewish influence that that US ever got involved in your brother wars. Get use to it, this is the real America.

>>513182049 (OP)
Christianity is ecumenical and not nationalist.

There is one area where both models agree that defending your homeland is justified, that is when your culture, traditions, religion and cohesion within your own group is being threatened, if you are going to use Christianity as an argument you need to make a case as to how those are under attack.

>>513188122
>be Russian
>offer Ukrainian refugees a flat, a job and social benefits
>Ukrainians who can’t leave (Zelensky treats them like cattle) kvetch and get jelly
It’s this shrimple

>>513188097
I know

>>513188122
Bit rich coming from Canada which is 60% white. Indians, Pakis, Arabs everywhere.

>>513184947
> I was around for that
Ahhhahahaha. No, you were not.
>Slam. Slam. Slam-slam-slam.
The rooting for maidan threads were glorious and everlasting.

>>513187866
so? austria has a higher percentage of niggers than russia as well.
without conquering some dagestani shithole, we just do it to ourselves for no reason.

>>513187790
Putin is bogpilled, not looks finnish

>>513187880
Once Serbia promises to deport the 100,000 African migrants that just let in.

>>513182049 (OP)
>WHY ARENT YOU STUPID FUCKING GOYIM FALLING FOR IT!!!
>SUPPORT ISRAE- I MEAN TAIW- I MEAN UKRAINEEEE!!!

>>513188204
I believe Givi still has more popular vote than White Aryan Zelensky… after 3 years of Nazi Ukrainians getting slashed by mongol commie jewish orcs…

>>513188119
>Yawn. We need Bucha 2
hopefully you'll get that within russia itself soon.

>>513187977
You are talking about Communism basically. That's a threat to some Oligarchs sure, but the Jews don't fear Communism. The Jews you see as CEOs and in public office are not the ones ultimately in control. The International Jew welcomes anything that harms the White Race, even if it costs some Jews their comfortable position in society.

ukraine is gay

>>513182049 (OP)
most of /pol/ are muslims and africans. this has been confirmed several times now. also russia has confirmed operations from government here, including intelligence officers that organise on government run telegram channels.

>>513182049 (OP)
Nah Ukraine was also a shit hole to start of with. Im pro-Russian, but am very sympathetic to the good kind people of Ukraine that have to live in a country with their fellow countrymen doing horrible things. Its a slav problem, not European.

>>513182049 (OP)
Here's a map of Europe. You see how big Russia is?

if russia is 'not white' then the ukraine is also 'not white'

>>513188119
I can go into the centre square of my city right now and post of picture with a sign criticizing my government in almost any way I want.

Go do the same.

>>513188332
>1 pbtid ukrokike has something to say
Tell me, ukropidar, who shelled Russian forces while they were in Bucha? What kind of genocide was giving the locals food and water?

>>513188332
But Russia is not murdering its own civilians for the media's sake.

>>513182049 (OP)
I support Ukraine in theory for these reasons, but I opposed the Global American Empire and thus their international efforts

>>513188475
Do it
>newfag larper doesn’t acknowledge the existence of Canada lorry drivers march threads

>>513182049 (OP)
its only bots and muds supporting rungolia, all real white russians have fled that shithole over the past 100 years

>>513188475
and what if you wanted to go for a walk in the woods?

>>513188407
Additionally, Anglosphere flags are very often not exactly anglosaxon either, and if they are, they mostly spew the most retarded boomer talking points possible.

>>513188379
>>513188454
these are migrants. the leader of pro-russian movement in Austrualia is a anti-White activist asian named Simon Boikov.

>>513188460
And Russia was happily feeding it resources and energy until US lead international sanctions. What is your point ? Take into account that the US literally admitted to preemptively destroying Nordstream.

>>513188203
And why is that the case? Because the KGB puppet known as Pierre Elliot Trudeau made it that way

>>513188305
>WHY AREN'T YOU STUPID WHITES FALLING FOR IT!!
>SUPPORT IRA- I MEAN CHIN- I MEAN RUSSIA!
God I hate nu/pol/ so fucking much

>>513188013
This is a funny argument amongst the ignorant.

Some say "Russia is based and going to save the west from ourselves!" others counter that "Russia is woke and part of the anti-nazi globohomo agenda".

Russia is neither going to save the west, nor is it a part of the west. They will always see nazism as an extremely hostile ideology that Western Europe united under to destroy them. It wasn't just Germany that attacked in WW2, it was a union of continental western European countries that invaded them.

The irony is that Stalin in most ways was a National Socialist like Hitler. He wasn't a "workers of the world unite" international bolshevist like Trotsky. He was very nationalistic and wanted USSR socialism to be inwardly focused, much like how the NSDAP wanted socialism for the German volk.

>>513188631
You're well aware that is 100% a syrian migrant living in sweden right?

>>513188631
>le oldfag nafo
Name 5 /pol/ generals circa 2014

>>513188659
Yes, or a proxyivan. They rarely use Swede flags though

>>513188659
I’m a White Christian Orthodox man and I hate what you kikes are doing to ordinary Ukrainians lol

>>513182049 (OP)
Just vodkabots we had the same problem befor ID but now the trannys use VPN

>>513188692
So riddle me this nigger
>White Nazi people of Ukraine
>Aryan Zelensky closes borders and kidnaps them
What kind of behaviour is this

>>513188561
I didnt even know about him before discovering the truth for myself. Hes just an influencer.

>>513182049 (OP)
I support Ukraine.
I don't support the government of Ukraine that has been corrupting the country.

>>513188225
>we just do it ourselves for no reason
No, the KGB spent decades building blackmail rings with Israel ti work together in order to enforce demographic replacement and the priority crack downs by western intelligence agencies (who need to be punished regardless of their nativity) on anyone who would oppose the total and complete extermination of the our people.

And western intelligence agencies TOP priority to gang stalk people who try to expose these blackmail rings because they work for secret societies and all secret societies work for the Jews and Israel is in a secret intelligence alliance with Russia.

>>513182049 (OP)
>baffling
>european
We're nations, not EUSSR2. So go fuck some turk, jew. Also 30% of posts here are Christians=cucks. Sloppy job Mossad, tough choice but yes, you did the right one for you. Bash Christianity and keep guns away from white people, don't say you were not warned. Khazaria 2 will not happen.

>>513188529
You broke my heart.
You win today you kangaroo fucking retard

>>513182287
you're a kike in the porn and atheist capital of the world, take you Sabbath, that 5 year old ukrainian kid is sitting all alone in your embassy basement.

>>513188791
so you think all the leaders in the west supporting ukraine are really blackmailed russian puppets?

So uhg is spamming these threads, can you retards get American proxies at least? I just disregard it when I see faggot cowardly diaspora filled countries like Germany, Canada, Sweden, Austria, Poland, etc. if you fags cared so much about Ukraine then why did you flee as refugees?

Americans are traditionally antiwar and anti-European, we don’t give a fuck about you and only thru Jew brainwashing about WWII and Cold War paranoia(ironically largely from commie Jews from some other faction)

You have to a fucking retard to think Americans feel any obligation to places like Estonia, Finland, Turkey, really almost all of NATO besides the UK and France. We’re not going to start WW3 defending some farm field. Learn to live with your neighbors or fuck off when they decide the had enough, not our problem.

>>513188366
Socialism and communism are on the same spectrum. See my last point in this post for starters >>513188641

Jews--and anyone in power-- fears what they don't control.

The Bolshevik revolution was certainly hijacked by Jews to serve their interests, however the public sentiment that drove people to fight a revolution was organic.

China is ostensibly communist, but in practice and ideology the country resembles National Socialism more than Marxism, though without the overtly supremacist and suicidally belligerent attitude of the 3rd Reich.

You have to have IQ above 100 to realize that mainstream often lies, but you have to have IQ above 110 to realize that alternative media sometimes lie too. If you are a 100-100 IQ midwit, you can easily fall into the mindless contrarianism trap and start unironically supporting evil dictatorships, just because western mainstream opposes them.

>>513182285

But both sides have jewish leadership, so this point cancels out.

>>513188641
Fair point in some ways, although the difference between Stalin and Hitler was huge. You are right in some ways that Stalin was more Nationalist than Bolshevik, but Hitler and National Socialism resisted the Jew in favor of the European Race on every level in a way that you really cant compare to even regular Nationalism.

Also, in America we have a strong resistance to Nazism too because of our History. That doesn't mean that all of America is hopeless in terms of moving away from the Jewish paradigm. I hope Russia can be the same

>>513188692
sweden has had years of migration from e.g., syria. and syrian people are among some of the most pathetic in the entire world. they all ran away from their home and then cry about it.
>>513188722
you're obviously either asiatic or jewish. your multicultural federation attacked Ukraine because they wanted to federalise territory and wipe out growing White nationalist movements. The last thing a guy like Putin wants is racially conscious fighters growing in Ukraine Belarus and Russia. i don't even know why you are trying to lie about being White. no White person supports Putin. youre even using jewish pilpul which confirms to me youre a jew
>putin invades ukraine
>jewish pilpul: "defending yourself is violence so youre the defensive-aggressor while we're the aggressor-victim"
it simply does not work on Whites which is why its nonsense when i read your posts.

>>513188515
Okay, write a sign that says “fuck the FSB” and I will hold a sign that says “Fuck CSIS”. Go do it faggot

Let’s see how this plays out

>>513188991

*100-110 IQ midwit

There's nothing wrong with being jewish.

>>513188997
Cool. Once again riddle me this nigger
>White Nazi people of Ukraine
>Aryan Zelensky closes borders and kidnaps them
What kind of behaviour is this

>>513188971
>Learn to live with your neighbors or fuck off
Mexico ?

>>513189027
You’re offered to volunteer first so the ball’s in your court, “Canadian” from Ontaryivka lol. Go go pidor, vans won’t fill themselves

>>513188515

How were covid dissenters treated in russia?

Covid craze ended and Canada mostly returned to normal. russia is still a totalitarian shithole.

>>513182049 (OP)
okay, let's look at the other side..
>white
>christian
>european
>proud of ancestors
>defending homeland
>more conservative
hmm, I'll take them over the jewish nazi larpers

>>513189156
>Canada mostly returned to normal
they just decided to replace their population with indians in turbo mode

>>513189071
your multicultural government began operations against UKR beginning around 2013 with the embargo. the rest is pretty much history. and again, you are deflecting blame because your country learned its ideology from mongol asiatics and jewish communists. this is why you write:
>we invade ukraine
>how dare ukraine fight back, thats [insert buzzword[ (in this case "nazi")
typical left-wing tactic
>this is racism we are defensively invading their borders while they are invasively defending their borders
(classic pilpul used by jews)
it obviously works on you because you are mixed race and raised in asiatic-jewish education system that rewards deceit, pilpul, lying, etc. however, to Whites, youre just obviously shouting pilpul.

>>513189071

>What kind of behaviour is this

Totally normal, if your country is in a war, you dumbfuck.

>>513189156
> Canada mostly returned to normal
I fucking hate hohol newfag shills more than anything. Not because of muh war etc etc but because you’re dumb ignorant niggers

>>513189071

>What kind of behaviour is this

Totally normal, if your country is in a total war, you dumbfuck.

>>513189250
I agree. Now explain me this
>White Christian people of Ukraine
>Aryan Nazi Zelensky kidnaps them and treats them like cattle
What does this mean

>>513189250
>words words words words
stop hyhyl posting faggot, you are wasting our time

>>513182742
there were like 1-2 refugees per border guard stationed. If that's a flood, then we're getting a tsunami from the other side without complaints

>>513188722
How about you hate what your government has done to you.

I am a high priority target here in Canada, people I know get approached by CSIS and asked questions about me. Can you say the same about yourself?

Do you even have vrill bro? Or have they squeezed the resistance out of you?

>>513188487
if you ruskies cared at all you would have evacuated the people out instead of letting them be your meatshield

>>513189279
>>513189312
Hahahahahah jeetgpt malfunctioned. Ukranny sisters… no no no no no…

>>513189216

That is a dumb policy, but it is not an evidence of totalitarianism.

>>513189250
I wish Whites were as good at deflecting pilpul as you say. It's unfortunately effective if there are social rewards in its favor. Nonetheless you are right that Whites respond better to actual arguments on average

>>513189333
>you did bucha!!
>no you didn’t but you gave them food!!
>you SHOULDNT HAVE GIVEN THEM FOOD!!
>if you evacuate them ukranny will screech about kidnapping
Yawn

>>513189329
>do 2 revolutions in the span of 70 years
>kokoko do you LE RESIST kokoko?
Nah I believe THD is a necessary measure by this point, why oppose it

>>513189344

Nope, I mistakenly thought I mistyped the captcha so I posted it a second time.

>>513189094
Yes, the US shares one of the longest borders in the world with a violent 3rd world nation. You don’t see the US crying to Europe for help.

understand that this is a one way relationship that Americans don’t benefit from. We are done, euros can defend themselves or start sacrificing their economic way of life. This is not a charity and we don’t live or care or think about you at all. You consume our shit all day, not the other way around, we’d prefer to just forget you exist.

russia is a muslim country though.

>>513189460
Shitters like you drove this board to its death. What’s for the better of it ukranny lost so I’ll take the deal although saddened

>>513182285
second post best post
don't give a shit about the conflict but lmao, the idea it's not ran by turboliberal jews is insane

>>513189048
yet you're ashamed by your own flag

>>513189320
because you are doing a classic jewish tactic of blaming victims while trying to claim to be the "aggressor-victim".

for example Israel:
>invading palestine/gaza
>calls any palestinian who resists a "terrorist"
>claims victimhood based on palestinians defending their territory from invasion
Israelis even called one "Special Military Operation" (term invented by Mossad by the way), "Operaiton: protective edge" - this is ultimate pilpul in action.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gaza_War
So you have situation where Israel invades country, calls itself the victim and creates the pilpul narrative of the "defensive invaders" (gazans) and the "invading defenders" (israel).

russia, being an asiatic-jewish state, uses the same pilpul in its rhetoric. for example as comparison:
Israel on Hamas
>hamas kidnaps palestinians and forces them to fight against invading-defender israel who is just trying to liberate territory
Russia on Ukraine
>azov kidnaps ukrainians and forces them to fight against invading-defender russia who is just trying to liberate territory

This kind of thinking doesn't work on White people hence why putin can only convince jews, asiatics, blacks, etc.

>>513189494

>ukranny lost

How is the "breakthrough" going, vatnik? xDDddDdd

>>513189333
>evacuated the people
we do tho, all the time, the fact that you don't know about it kind of proves you either have agenda to pursue or just sit in uhg hugbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQChbtrDhOM

>>513185752
they're the same

>>513188996
I don't disagree. They had similar trajectories, but from different starting points. Stalin inherited a vast multi-ethnic empire from the Bolshevik revolution. Germany was relatively racially homogenous, and Marxism originated in Germany, and Germany deliberately sent Lenin to start the revolution.

>but Hitler and National Socialism resisted the Jew in favor of the European Race
If you judge it based solely on intentions and advertisements. Results tell a different story, especially when you know the holocaust is fake. Haavara agreement building up Israel + no holocaust in exchange for getting 45 million whites killed and making Jews more powerful than ever? You could make the argument Hitler was the perfect Jewish puppet, even if he had good intentions and was only serving them unwittingly.

>>513182049 (OP)
>ignoring the fact western governments betrayed their own people via mass immigration and so the people supported their enemy in revenge
you're fucking morons.

>>513189379
>not an evidence of totalitarianism
fucking meaningless, it's way worse, it alters the trajectory of the nation forever.
some retarded policy about not criticizing the govt is fucking nothing compared to mass migration, and the totalitarianism you fear just follows. just look at the uk. in germany you can't even criticize govt officials anymore.

>>513189552
I agree. Now explain me this
>White Christian people of Ukraine
>Aryan Nazi Zelensky kidnaps them and treats them like cattle
>Azov isn’t TЦК neither was it mentioned in any quality
What does this mean

>>513189564
I seethed yesterday when Zelensky met Trump in Alaska. It’s good so far

Whites should not support states with nigger behaviour, they have to oppose them

>>513189527
Even if I were, it doesn't change the fact that there's nothing wrong with being jewish.

>>513189564
>hoholmaps
yeah, azog conquered mariupol three years ago

>>513189651
if you agree then there is no purpose in answering your questions because the events you list in your greentext would not occur if your country was never invading them. you are identical in this propaganda to israel (which is obvious, being a jewish-asiatic run nation similar to russia [interesting tip: russian is widely spoken in israel]).

israel claims the same:
>Hamas kidnaps palestinians and treats them like cattle
>if Hamas stopped invasively resisting invasion then the war would stop
You use the same exact propaganda in Ukraine:
>Azov kidnaps ukrainians and treats them like cattle
>if Azov stopped invasively resisting invasion then the war would stop

your tactic is to constantly frame yourself as the victim-invader, so even though you started the war, invaded the country, and bombed the people you frame it as being a victim. same as israelis.

>>513189584
>Hitler got millions of Whites and created Israel so maybe he was a Jewish puppet all along
No try hard arguments from me today, but you're extremely wrong.

>>513189620

>it's way worse

That is a matter of debate. I disagree with mass immigration, but I would still choose present UK, Germany or France as a place to live in instead of North Korea, Russia or Belarus, or the historical Soviet Union. And people who vote with their feet say the same thing.

>>513182049 (OP)
They sent their entire country to die off for a kike Jew rat to walk away with billions of stolen money. Yeah good job guys. What a complete embarrassment Ukraine has been through out this entire thing without even mentioning the state sponsored tranny.

>>513189196
Sadly Cucktin waited too long, then cucked more in 2022 and retreated and all those who showed a hint of support for Russia were culled. Bucha, Blaklaya, Izium, Kherson, Kupiansk just a few, hundreds more towns. Were culled from 2014, but in the areas who got under russians in 2022 until summer then lost, was ogre. Sadly I did not saved an interview with a fat old pig boasting they killed tens of thousands of people. Video from 2022 I think. Tens of thousands of active people dead is all you need to silence millions these days.

>>513188996
>Also, in America we have a strong resistance to Nazism too because of our History.
For sure, being the heroes of WW2 is deeply imbedded in the American psyche.
>That doesn't mean that all of America is hopeless in terms of moving away from the Jewish paradigm. I hope Russia can be the same
That runs 1500 years deep though. The roots are in Christianity. The biggest Zionist organization is CUFI (Christian's United For Israel) with 10 million members. There's more Christian zionists in America than there are Jews in Israel.

>>513189696

Yup. Invading a neighbour is nigger behaviour, russia!

>>513189767
I agree ruzzia is a mongol jew churka commie invader. Anyway explain me this
>White Christian people of Ukraine
>Aryan Nazi Zelensky kidnaps them and treats them like cattle
>not Azov, but official TЦК of Ukraine
What does this mean

>>513189767

This. Making war in defense is not the same as making war in offense and to enact an occupation. But vatniks are too dumb to realize that distinction.

>>513189771
I'm just playing devils advocate and pointing out that it is an argument that can be made, with justification.

I don't think Hitler was a puppet, but he objectively did fuck up and achieve the opposite result of what he set out for.

>>513189796
>people who vote with their feet
>it said the line
it really shows that györgy schwartz gave his presstitutes to his faggy son

>>513182742
I bet the old potato got some money from EU especially Germany for that, like Erdopig does.
>here, fat suitcase
>let shitskins in
>we'll blame you
>kosher pagan larpers will go fight for ukraine
>but they're 1000 only anyway

>>513189859
What does it mean? it means your country invaded them and they are defending your country. but as you are the same race as israelis (asiatic-jews) you try to create a framework of
>resistance = aggression
this is why you talk about things like "kidnap" when you mention conscription -> conscription which only happened because your country invaded them.

israel says the same thing about hamas defending gaza, because israel claims that hamas has kidnapped palestinians and forces them to be bombed by israel. again, none of your points have any sense or logic because russia attacked ukraine just as israel attacked gaza.
your idea of being a victim only works on other people with similar mind as you (jews, blacks)

>>513189841
Yeah we should only invade sandnigger countries and kill kids for 20 years and walk away with no gains while Jewish contractors walk out the back door with all the money. Like white men. Kill yourself.

>>513189859

>what is mobilization in a total war

The dumb is off the charts here.

>>513189771
This thread is about to die. I've enjoyed this respectful conversation. If you want to make a new thread and post a cross-link, I'll come along.

>>513189821
should have just done it in 2014, that would have solved the Ukraine piece itself. I would assume that there were other reasons for not going in large scale, mainly not being ready for a western response, which despite the local population absolutely supporting it, would still act like it's some terrorist act against the rules based order, whatever that gibberish is supposed to mean.

>>513189796
>North Korea, Russia or Belarus
Okay, but is that because of totalitarianism or because they're poor?
What about the UAE, Singapore or China? They're more totalitarian than Russia yet much more desirable. If you live there you have no political rights.
And what happens when Europe loses the rest of its industrial economy?

>>513190003

How about not invading anyone, brainlet?

>>513189396
i guess the lives of the babushkas was worth not having to watch someone say you kidnapped them?

>>513190024
>forced conscription is good as long it’s deployed upon White Christians
Found the kike rofl
>>513189993
It means you can’t explain the phenomenon in question, hohol. All the chatbot speak and I’ve never seen the explanation of draconian measures Zelekike implemented
>White Christian people of Ukraine
>Aryan Nazi Zelensky kidnaps them and treats them like cattle
Azog was never mentioned even so I believe I was talking to a set of precanned lines. But I did enjoy humiliating you so it’s a net gain for me. (You), mykolka

>>513190137
>someone say
>hohols screech and seethe
Go talk to them dunno

>>513189796
Exactly. for all the flaws and Jewish control of the West, it's still where most of the best people are and thus the best place to live.

>>513189933
>Hitler did fuck up
The fact that the West stoked a second World War and did everything possible to prevent a peaceful resolution is not Hitlers fault. Even if in hindsight Hitler should have done nothing in Poland, the West would have tried to start the War in some other way

>>513182049 (OP)
Because Zelensky is a jew and genocides "his own" people. This war has no other use. Being Ukrainian or Russian is irrelevant when you are dead with 0 offspring.

>>513190092

China is a shithole for the average person, don't believe the CCP propaganda.

I don't know about UAE or Singapore, but I doubt they are more totalitarian than present Russia. And quality of life is still higher in western Europe.

>>513190072
Russia was not in a better shape in 2022 than 2014, but hohols greatly improved and allowed NATO to get a firm foothold, fortifications etc. 8 years is no joke. In the meantime every civilian deemed a threat in ukraine was removed or sent to front

>>513190143
>It means you can’t explain the phenomenon in question, hohol.
you are resorting to ad homs at this point and trying to claim that everyone against your invasion is ukrainian (israel does the same, claiming everyone against israel invasion of gaza is muslim -> of course to any sensible White this is just pure strawman nonsense and not fit for any actual discussion).
>you can't explain
I just did, in both cases Russia and Israel invaded countries but claims to the victim while they invade. hence why you use the "victim-invader" narrative and try to paint people resisting your invasion as "aggressor-defenders". this is more pilpul that does not work on Whites.
>Azov was never mentioned
i used example to illustrate the point, hamas/azov. also you are clearly not against jews considering you support jews (shemalov, rotenberg, soloyov and israel as a whole even using same propaganda and pilpul as them).

>>513190143

>forced conscription is good as long it’s deployed in a war of self-defense

It's that simple, dummy.

>>513190226
True, all average persons avoid China and Russia, do what the Slovak flag is saying and flood Israel, is much higher than in Western Europe too and they'll love you, not as racists by far.

>>513190289
aren't you a good little goy? If chimpecka weren't such a jobber, you could've got your wish

>>513190289
I wouldn't say it's good, it's a necessary evil and literally every sane nation does it when attacked

>>513190072
>should have just done it in 2014
Russia needed to make economic preparations. If they launched in 2014, the sanctions might have accomplished their goal of collapsing their economy.
>I would assume that there were other reasons for not going in large scale, mainly not being ready for a western response
The initial invasion was done with a peace time army. It seems they reserved hope of a show of strength leading to a political resolution.

In hindsight it was very naive (reinforced by falling for Minsk 2.0). They were also slow to do an initial mobilization after that failed. They lost a lot of men and materiel.

>>513182049 (OP)
>On paper this board should support NATO, psychopathic troons, a jew war to kill white people, the EU and mass immigration, the total degradation of your living standards for the same
WHY WON'T YOU FILTHY GOYIM JUST FUCKING FALL FOR IT ALREADY? EVERYBODY ELSE DID!

>>513190364

>lost an argument, so ad hominem it is

typical vatnik

good thread I appreciated your different inputs, learned some things

>>513190226
The point is that your migration gambit has nothing to do with political freedom. Are people in India voting against the 'biggest democracy in the world' with their feet? And notice you use Western Europe and not the poor Baltics or Bulgaria as your example despite equal political freedom.
But for how long

>>513190368
>very naive
is bordering treason form secret services part, let alone incompetence. Common... /pol/ knew exactly what ukranny was and it was not fraternal people near Kiev or Sumy. Odessa should have been the main objective + all the shore, take the whole big city and entrench. And no, is not hindsight .

>>513190178
Make a new thread, I want to keep talking.

>The fact that the West stoked a second World War and did everything possible to prevent a peaceful resolution is not Hitlers fault.
Hitler broke the Munich agreement, declared war on Poland knowing they had a defensive alliance with UK and France. Had no plan to capitulate the UK if they didn't just agree to be bros to make his wish come true.

That's 1 unwinnable war.

Backstabbed and declared war on the USSR while under total naval blockade, assuming they'd give up as easy as the French "when the front door is kicked in".

That's 2 unwinnable wars.

Declared war on the USA because fuck it, shits already fucked, if they're sending arms to UK, they may as well be bombing Berlin too and demanding nothing less than unconditional surrender.

That's 3 unwinnable wars.

Hitler fucked up.

>>513190534

Threat to freedom is often also a cause of emigration. Economic situation too, and economic development and political freedom go hand in hand.

>>513190534
You’re wasting your breath on Gemini bruv don’t bother

>>513190284
>rotenberg buys white vans for Ukraine
Ok fill me in

>>513190719

You lost an argument to a chatbot. xDDDdddDDD Stay mad.

>>513190587
USA wasn't just sending arms to UK, they were already sending Lend Lease shipments to Soviet Union, basically fully engaged in Reconnaissance in the Atlantic against the Axis

The Soviet Union was not an innocent bystander while Germany was engaged in a War in the West that it didn't want and that Churchill and the Jews did. Hitler describes all of this well in his public speeches

>>513190763
Le… mindbroken

>>513190536
>is bordering treason form secret services part, let alone incompetence
I lean to incompetence and complacency, from high command down to commanders. Over estimation of readiness and wishful thinking.

There might be some argument they could make that pre-emptively mobilizing would have triggered a response. I don't think it holds water though, Ukraine was already being geared up as fast as possible.

Odessa and controlling the Black Sea coast should be a priority, but sustaining an operation on the opposite river bank while Ukraine is at full strength would likely be impossible, even with the best preparation. It's a huge logistic hurdle.

>>513190837
Make a new thread. I have a 300s timer. I want to respond to your points but there's no point with this thread on the brink.