Thread 513191911

"The Ukrainian vision is that there should first be a ceasefire, and then further negotiations, since negotiations before a ceasefire create great risks of blackmail for Ukraine, said adviser to the head of the President's Office Serhiy Leshchenko."

"Our vision is first a ceasefire, and then everything else. Why? Because if we negotiate before a ceasefire, it creates big risks of blackmail for Ukraine. Because if there is a ceasefire, space for diplomacy opens up," Leshchenko said on the national telethon on Saturday.

https://ru.interfax.com.ua/news/general/1096512.html

>>513191911 (OP)
>The Ukrainian vision
I couldn't care less. Can he just accept the damn peace deal and end this?

He's trying to force a ceasefire before capitulating and collapsing completely

>>513191911 (OP)
Good, keep the show going, Mr Comedian

>>513191911 (OP)
>Kiev rejected
Forgot to ask hohol

>>513191911 (OP)
Culling of pigs will continue until morale improves

>>513191911 (OP)
Ookraine knows they will have money and protection from USA. Why would they accept anything else than a total russian surender?

>>513191911 (OP)
>the drone kino will continue
Great!

>>513192099
No.
If he wanted to, the war would have ended years ago. Hell, it wouldn't have even began.

None of the current discussion is new, Zelensky wanted an (((unconditional))) ceasefire, aka you stop your advancement and we rearm and you can't do anything about it, for 2 years now. He just refuses any dialogue, thinking it's his absolute right to get this ceasefire.
That's why Putin is satisfied that he got to talk with Trump, because his position is the sane one and Trump naturally agrees with it. Now we have Zelensky come over to the US again soon, and it's going to be another episode of him kwetching that the world owes him a ceasefire.
War could have ended years ago if dialogue was there instead of the US admin being surrounded with (((experts))) urging to never ever doubt Ukraine and to never ever talk with Putin and all of the EU niggerkikes just nodding and parroting Zelensky.

>>513191911 (OP)
Russia has no say over the future of Ukraine. Ukraine is a Sovereign State. Fuck off back to your own country.

>Kiev rejected

Hitler rejected soviet troops when they were walking up the Reichstag steps.

>>513191911 (OP)
as a burger i say, "WHO TF ASKED YOU PIGJEW."

>>513192801
I just got perma banned from Reddit yesterday for asking why liberals over there are so fucking pro war/death/meatgrinder

>>513192769
i look forward to seeing that arrogant scumbag getting thrown out again. better yet, hanged by Ukis in kiev square.

>>513192769
>just hand over your country bro

>>513192801
>Ukraine is a Sovereign State
That was overthrown by a US backed coup you total faggot. Then they destroyed nordstream and collapsed European manufacturing by sanctioning Russian gas and forcing Europe to purchase expensive US gas.

Just like in WWII you are the bad guys in this scenario and deserve your tanking economies.

>>513192876
Should have asked them why almost nobody is volunteering to go and fight in Ukraine anymore (it's because they all know they'll die and the war is lost).

>>513191911 (OP)
The position of Zelensky was that he will win, just now he finally is admitting that "maybe" he can accept a draw (so no territory cession). I think he need to sacrifice more Ukranian youth to be convinced.

>inb4 zigger
Russia in this war, generally, not performed well, but Ukraine lost every single time against an enemy that wasn't performing well. I don't get why ukranian must be raptured by a jewish goverment to fight for a land full of russophiles.

>>513191911 (OP)
ukraine doesn't have the cards.. if america drops them they get conquered in a month or 2

>>513193034
>your country
https://files.catbox.moe/p6dr08.mp4

>>513192769
Cuck

>>513193135
why is russia hand wrestling US's foot
...
wat?

>>513191911 (OP)
>The Ukrainian vision is that there should first be a ceasefire, and then further negotiations,
HAHAHAHAHAHA
So that you can get new ship loads of drones and missiles and restaff your fronts?
So that you then decline any peace offer?

Nobody is buying this crap a 2nd time.
Russia will finish you off now.

>>513192099
Not yet, zelensky said to the last hohol, we still have more

>>513191911 (OP)
>Zelensky vouches for THD
Whew bazinga colour me surprised

>>513192769
>If he wanted to, the war would have ended years ago. Hell, it wouldn't have even began.
Yes.
>None of the current discussion is new, Zelensky wanted an (((unconditional))) ceasefire,
>aka you stop your advancement and we REARM and you can't do anything about it,
>He just refuses any dialogue, thinking it's his absolute right to get this ceasefire.
This essentially , what's going on, very obvious.

>War could have ended years ago if dialogue was there instead of the US admin being surrounded with (((experts)))
>urging to never ever doubt Ukraine and to never ever talk with Putin
>and all of the EU kikes just nodding and parroting Zelensky.
The EU niggerkikes are more dangerous because they are british Mi6 agents, French globohomo king agents and the Vatican agents.
Those 3 groups, along with Pentagon , want to continue the war.

>>513191911 (OP)
>ceasefire
Impossible

>>513193517
>muh kangs, muh Vatican
Take meds

>>513191911 (OP)
Ohhh hes sooo getting a package in the mail.

Russia doesn't adhere to peace treaties, there's no point

>>513191911 (OP)
what were you expecting
theres a reason he wasnt called to the meeting

>>513191911 (OP)
the ukrainian vision is to pause the fighting so they could patch the big gaping hole the russians just raped into them so they could continue the meatgrinder

Europe needs to surrender to Islam, there are already so many muslims in Europe and they are never leaving, we need to accept shariah law and convert to islam. people could get hurt if we don't convert to islam

>>513191911 (OP)
good, they weren't a part of the negociation they shouldn't accept anything said behind their backs

>>513192769
you can always fuck off right back to where you belong ivan

>>513192769
>thinking it's his absolute right to get this ceasefire.
It is Ukraine's absolute right to not be invaded by Russia, yes.

>>513191911 (OP)
Translation: Lemme rearm nigga

Russia can anex the whole of Ukraine and push Jewlenskys shit in for all i care.

>>513191911 (OP)
>Putin rejects Trump's idea of ceasefire so peace talks can start
>aaaa it's ze evil hohols rejecting peace we don't want!
>help us Trump sama!
As always Russian lies easier than it breathes.

>>513191911 (OP)
It would be cool if the US just bombed this faggot.

>>513191911 (OP)
No shit he wants ceasefire first. Russia's stance is "give us the territory, abandon fortifications and dissolve your army and then we'll do a ceasefire, surely we won't resume the war after you do all that)))"

>>513191911 (OP)
based, fuck russia

>>513191911 (OP)
>Because if there is a ceasefire, space for diplomacy opens up
>Decline diplomacy before ceasefire
???

and no way they are saying =
bro, let's stop fighting rn, let's stall a little bit trying to negotiate and when negotiations inevitebly fail we will atleast have recouped some strenght to keep going, haven't they had enough minsk 1 and 2 for this? fucking ukranians think they smart as fuck or something lmao

>>513194763
and then let russia have the land
that would be extremely based
right?

>poles stoking up the fire
not surprised desu. eternal loosers.

>>513193517
All these worldwide kike faggots keep encouraging Zelensky by providing support/arms/money and stroking his ego while being sympathetic.... intstead of telling him to stop because his entire population is getting killed bc it was never a war he could win.

Zelensky here. Look Patriots I have stolen over 5 billion and will be leaving for my casino hotel in Honduras soon. I will be taking 4 Tyrone`s with me to satisfy my wife and I. Ukraine what a fucking shithole. Z

>>513191911 (OP)
i've grown to kind of respect zelensky now that he doesn't have libs giving him the royal treatment everywhere he goes, If he was CIA I would think he'd be replaced or roach by now but he's just carrying on
maybe he is the real deal.

>>513192769
so you can win but you don’t want to
lmao

>>513193219
also saw that lmao

>>513191911 (OP)
Yeah, well, but trump already tweeted everyone agrees we are gonna skip cease fire talks and just go straight to Peace and the Nobel Prize award ceremony, okay?

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>>513194913
how the fuck do midwits like you get in here?
>>513194763
amen
he should get the same treatment as that ukie general that was told not to use USA trained special ops inside russia and the ukies instead went on a killing spree in moscow and whatever

>>513195617
that's actually the normal procedure, normally there's never ceasefire before peace talks, but first peace talks and then a ceasefire when they've worked something out