Thread 513201874

Tiny white pecker cuckold nazis lost again LOL!

>1945
>2025
Take the cock in the ass, twp cuck trannies, Z and glory to Marx

>>513201874 (OP)
Sounds to me like Trump just wants to surrender. Did Putin threten him with the pedo tapes?

>>513201934
Pidor, go away >>>/lgbt/

>>513202018
Tiny white pecker cope
Nazis lost in 1945
And lost again in 2025

Glory to the soviet workers in Marx

>>513201874 (OP)
Russia already has eastern Ukraine.

>>513201874 (OP)
This is what Putin proposed or Trump?

>>513201874 (OP)
>Trump peace deal involves giving Russia to Russia
whoa no way

>>513201874 (OP)
...So all the bits they already have.
What a generous "gift".

>>513201874 (OP)
If Ukraine gives up territory now the war will never end until the rest of its annexed too. There may be a ceasefire that lasts a few weeks or even months but Putin will have no reason not to inevitably break it.

>>513202104
The nazis think pigraine is a real country kek

>>513201966
Or Trump thinks cucking out will benefit him personally in some way.

>>513202134
But also, the war will not end until Ukraine cedes territory, or ceases to exist. So what's the right move?

>>513201874 (OP)
You dumb fuck. Don't you know ukraine already belongs to Russia.

>>513202134
There won't be a ceasefire to begin with. There will be peace.

>>513201874 (OP)
Georgia attacked Russia. Even fucking Obama said so.

Tiny white pecker status:
>killed
Tiny white pecker wives status:
>raped by tajik, tuvan and chechen bulls

Tiny white pecker cuck piggies!

>>513201874 (OP)
they are both dead before 2030, trump is out of power anyway in 2028, so this "he done this before" is irrelevant. everything is temporary. the need to realise only now exists and if they can get peace until putin dies then that is a win. once putin dies everything is off the table anyway, because no one knows who or what comes next.

What do you mean "giving"? They are controlling it at the moment. The question is not whether ukraine want to give it to them, the question is whether ukraine can take it back and if they are willing to make the sacrifices necessary.

>>513202134
He'd have little reason to break it, he'd already have most of the useful parts where the bulk of the gas and minerals and Russia friendly people are. Not going to launch another expensive ass war just to get the parts of Ukraine that produce nothing but prostitutes and computer viruses, he's already got more than enough at home.

>>513202458
can't you read, pajeet?

>here is deal i get what i want and we end the war
based i see no reason to decline xD

>>513202365
Obama and Clinton are the reasons Ukraine doesn't have nukes anymore

>>513201874 (OP)
They're both fucking losers, I hate them both.

>>513202611
obama was still eating bananas in africa when the ukraine decided they don't need nukes
leave obama out of this

>>513202611
No one was going to allow the Ukraine to hold on to its Soviet-era stockpile.
They would have sold those nukes to the highest bidder just like they did all their conventional Soviet-era wreapons.

>>513202134
And this is why Ukraine will not accept any other deal than security guarantees and or NATO membership with it.

>>513201874 (OP)
>Just surrender half your country and you can have peace!
Fucking braindead nonce cunt.

>>513202887
the ukraine can agree or not doesn't matter russia will get it either way by peace or slowly grinding meat

>>513202611
>Ukraine doesn't have nukes anymore
You're retarded. Ukraine never had nukes. They merely had Russian nukes stored, just like Germany has US nukes stored. But Germany can't launch the US nukes just like Ukraine was never able to launch the Russian nukes.

>>513201874 (OP)
Some eastern regions of Ukraine were supposed to hold a public referendum on whether they would officially rejoin Russia. They were obviously going to vote “yes” on the issue so Ukraine’s jewy president forbade them from voting at all, so Moscow went to war against their authoritarian oppression.
>but Russia is worse!
Not the point, retard. And a lot of Ukrainians don’t agree with your psychotic assessment of the situation. Now Ukraine isn’t even allowed to have elections. Democrats and the EU fabricated this war entirely by their own choice. Now you’re complaining that Trump wants to let pro-Russian Ukrainians join Russia, stop a pointless war, and stop making the situation worse. Yeah, he’s not the problem here. You are. If you ever supported Jewkraine you are a blood soaked lunatic, and I hope you are murdered by a pack of feral rapefugees

>>513203379
its why 4chan is worthless for takes on whatever the 'current thing' is.
reddit ruined this board
bots and shills are boosting the predditor consensus.
these people roam the internet thinking they have the correct (consensus) take on everything, because they are surrounded by signal boost.

>>513201874 (OP)
..."eastern"?

>>513201874 (OP)
can I see a written promise that he supposedly broken?

>>513201874 (OP)
No shit, russias winning. The longer the war goes the more land they get, any peace deal necessarily requires Russia get more than it has already

>>513204977
>what is the Budapest memorandum
Here, let me also list all of your copes
>but it's a memorandum it's not an agreement
>the west broke it first because of muh nato expansion
>ukraine broke it first because muh zelensky saying he wants to have nukes
>ukraine attacked first we're just defending ourselves
>ackchually we're not harming or attacking Ukraine
>ukraine broke Minsk so it's one for one
Which one will it be this time?

>>513201874 (OP)
>a promise he has broken before
I hate these western propaganda faggots. We violated treaties to not extend nato beyond its original boundaries after the fall of the Soviet union, but nobody bats an eye. Bunch of disingenuous faggots.

>>513201874 (OP)
> written pledge not to attack Ukraine or Europe again
Russia has never attacked anyone - it has always only defended itself.

>>513201966
Well considering Ukraine could have never won in the first place the only options are surrender or the death of every male in the ukraine. Zellenskike is a fucking retard for not knowing he was being played from day one but what does a coke head "comedian" know about geopolitics

>>513205165
so when nato does it is not breaking it. got it.

you would ignore all the conditions and nuance and just say muh they broke it.

I think today I will take yugoslavia one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rusF4OJzGbo

>>513205638
Ah so it's this one
>the west broke it first because of muh nato expansion
Thanks for playing

>>513205165
The West broke it first because we orchestrated a fucking coup to topple the democratically elected government of the Ukraine because they wouldn't take EU loans.

>>513205834
you should watch that speech :D
for funsies replace yugoslavia with ukraine and usa with russia.

it sounds like it was shot in 2023.

>>513205834
and it is not nato expansion it is a destruction of a whole country and killing millions of civilians with long lasting consequences just because they had a wrong ideology.

>>513206096
> it is a destruction of a whole country and killing millions of civilians with long lasting consequences just because they had a wrong ideology.
You mean what you are doing in ukraine atm?

>>513201874 (OP)
Usa recovered Venezuela.

>>513206096
yeah,..

>>513206178
we are not hurting civilians.
there are hardly a 100 dead over 4 years.

we are not destroying key infrastructure. Like trains for example.

we are just killing the ones who occupy russian land. The ones who come to us with western weapons to die there.

>>513206278
>we are not hurting civilians.
lol
>we are not destroying key infrastructure. Like trains for example.
ahahaha
>we are just killing the ones who occupy russian land.
pretty sure even your shithole country recognized that it was ukraine's land in 1994.
> The ones who come to us
You came to them you lying dishonest mongolian disgusting shitskin

>>513206239
nato used radiactive rounds and those to this very day fuck up people there.
children are born with defects, cancer and lots of lasting healthcare issue.

we are saints compared to any western country including and starting from germany.

>>513206396
nope it is our land and no amount of seething will change that.

>>513201874 (OP)
>Ukraine cedes it's already occupied claims
>Then immediately let's NATO troops in as it applies for NATO membership
>The same thing happens with Moldova and Georgia.
>Armenia and Azerbaijan just formally signed a peace treaty and can now also join
Then there's no more Europe or Caucuses to invade without an all out WW3.
Has anyone ever considered this given if you wanted to join NATO you need to kit have any occupied claims?

>>513205890
>we orchestrated a fucking coup to topple the democratically elected government
kek, you pidors just lie, and lie, and lie ... which branch of the government was "couped" in Ukraine, pidrila? was it all of it, some of it ... and who determinedthat it was a "coup"?

>>513206278
>we are not destroying key infrastructure. Like trains for example.
Ivan, pls. Are you really going to make me dig up dozens of videos of train bridges, stations, and actual trains getting FABed the fuck out?
FFS you've destroyed every non-nuclear power plant in the country.
The only thing you haven't blown up are the gas pipelines.

>>513201874 (OP)
Imagine if Trump answered the call too

>>513206491
Ukraine would gladly give up the territories to join nato, except Russia wouldn't want to accept that because that's all putin has been babbling about.
This would basically an admission that Russia lost, because Ukraine is in nato, untouchable, and all Russia got for it is shitty dombabwe

>>513206278
>we are not hurting civilians.
>there are hardly a 100 dead over 4 years.
there's at least 20,000 dead civilians in Mariupol alone, you lying pidor. Some estimates go as high as 35,000.

>>513206533
nigger. compare it to what usa does.
to iraq for example.

exactly.

a train is not a big loss. If we wanted to deal damage we would go for train depos instead.
those are impossible to fix and due to differences in train tracks they won't be able to use western ones.

we put some pressure on their energy but just to keeps some pressure on them so they would ease on actual terror attack against civilians in Russia.

>>513201934
>russia is COMMIE, ok /pol/ NAZIS? root for ukrainny please
Yeah yeah yeah niggerkraine got fucked fucked

>>513205890
>coup
>Snap elections
not the same thing seething zigger

>>513206522
The next person to say "mostly peaceful" gets shot in the fucking face.

>>513206708
estimates by whome? :D

oh the ones who lied about everything on every step of the way?
and then when caught on lie just shrugged it off like it was nothing?

lmao.

>>513202093
Trump already said there will be no cease fire and he wants to go straight to a peace deal. Shockingly the jew york times is lying

>>513206770
Since when did snap elections have body counts?

>>513206727
I'm not disputing we bombed Iraq into the stone age. Twice. Never said otherwise.
But YOU claimed Russia isn't destroying key infrastructure and that is a bald-faced lie.

>>513207081
we do not destroy it.
we damage it.

and the reasons for that are more than humane and adequate

>>513201874 (OP)
>giving
After Trump has taken it back??

You fucking retards still think the KGB agent has a reverse gear and that a comedian is going to stop clowning when the audience heckles him. When you finally figure out that the people they represent are basically their spitting image you'll stop caring. You will support Marlboro red before supporting a slavic barbarian.

>>513207081
>>513207138
oh and we do that at night to make sure that there are no civilians around.

>>513206727
>we would go for train depos instead.
and you do, from day one
"Kramatorsk railway station attack"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kramatorsk_railway_station_attack

"Chaplyne railway station attack"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaplyne_railway_station_attack

"The railway station building and railroad cars were damaged in Poltava."

"Tragedy in Odessa! A ROCKET HIT THE TRAIN STATION. The Russians burned everything there to the ground"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4ZpyVoVC7Q

and so on, and so on, and so forth.

>>513202134
been like this 1k years
t. lienst cossack

>>513207212
lmao

the last one for example is ukranian rocket tochka U.

a perfect example of the lies your side spreads.

>>513202458
Best post of the thread

>>513201874 (OP)
yeah no you have to sacrifice another million pidors for that. nothing is for free in this world.

>>513207212
also I meant depot that used to fix and maintain trains. those are railway stations and that is not the same thing.

>>513201874 (OP)
Holy fucking shit!!!!
Look at that shit eating grin from Putin while Trump is holding his hand with both paws like a good dog
He knows that we know, and Trump knows he’s got him by the balls with the Epstein list

Here's the thing...

We knew 2, 3 years ago how this would end. And so did the government giving them weapons for ulterior motivations, to literally weaken russia. guys like lindsay graham can't help themselves and let it slip in interviews how their interest was killing russians, and getting minerals.

>To THE LAST UKRANIAN

What do you think Lady Bug meant by that? I'll tell you. He meant they are content to keep giving ukraine weapons and logistics until there are no more ukraine people left because they're all dead. Ukraine was established in 1992.. .let's not pretend they're super attached to that land where russian speaking people live.

This is not, and should never have been OUR problem. WE, the Obama administration w\ hillary and biden, caused this w\ the 2014 coup. It was never ending another way, and they knew that. think about that.

>>513201874 (OP)
Cool I don't care. Good for trump. He makes peace and it ends all the cia games they're playing over there and it halts all of the money and weapons going into the black hole that is Ukraine.

>>513201874 (OP)
The EU should crucify Merkel for being dumb enough to admit they knowingly made international treaties with the intention to break them.

>>513206787
what is this screenshot even supposed to be, pidrila?

here's the real coup, in russia in 1993, you stupid pidor.

>>513207138
>damage
The Kakhovka Reservoir is fucking gone, Ivan. That's a bit more than "damage."

>>513207197
Wasn't disputing civilian casualties. Frankly it's a miracle there have been so few. Though I will point out Russia has been more cavalier about daytime airstrikes these past few months.

>>513201874 (OP)
And where is my denazification, demilitarization and devalvation???? Fuck your Donbass, to the last ukrainian

All I really want is Big black dick
..zelensky

>>513207567
and how many died back then?
did we burn people alive in a government building and were beating to death the ones who jumped out of windows?
and then were celebrating it for years with kebab pictures?

>>513207387
>railway stations and that is not the same thing.
that's where the civilians are, you fucking moron, and where the passenger trains converge.

>>513207177
>> /k/ mentioned
you have alerted the zigger horde

>>513207617
ukranians destroyed it.
it was in russian possesion and then they destroyed it.

We use it to supply crimea why would we break it?

of course both me and you might be wrong because there is a fog of war.

>>513207714
exactly and we do not attack those.
ukraine does for false flags because all they care about is a media picture for gibs.

>>513207808
You destroyed the dam that got you water, now you will never get the water since you need to get to Slovyansk for it which is not happening this century, enjoy your hopeless situation and lost war kek

>>513207081
When the dictator wont allow them to happen

>>513204724
Yep. At this point Ukraine and the EU needs to accept the fact that they can either cede the eastern part of Ukraine or keep a never ending war going.

>>513201934
least obvious well-poisoning jewkraine supporter

>>513207706
>and how many died back then?
"During the 1993 constitutional crisis in Moscow, at least 158 people were officially killed and 423 were wounded or otherwise injured. The main clashes occurred on October 3-4, including the storming of the White House by troops loyal to Yeltsin."
>did we burn people alive in a government building
YES, look at the photo, you retard.
kek, stupid pidrila, dosn't even know his own history and tries to yap about someone else's!

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B1%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F_%D1%81%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_%E2%80%94_%D0%BE%D0%BA%D1%82%D1%8F%D0%B1%D1%80%D1%8F_1993_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0_%D0%B2_%D0%9C%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B2%D0%B5

>>513207808
Point being is there is a shitload of destroyed infrastructure in both the Ukraine and Russia. Hell, you can see how fucked up Volgograd is from space and pretty sure that's several 100 clicks from the line of contact.

>>513207567
Don't play coy with me, NAFO faggot.

>>513207714
the kind of rockets we use now are incredibly powerful. They are called iskander.

the ones ukraine uses for fake attacks called tochka U.
It is a super old soviet shit.
In most cases it just flies in wrong direction and hits a random ukranian building instead of hurting us in any way.

maybe we jam those or smth. It is not smart to use a weapon against it's creators.

>>513201874 (OP)
>give us what we wanted and pinky promise we won't attack again
hahaha, what's the IQ of the orange retard again, 85 ?

ITS NAFOVER

Say, the war end with Ukraine giving away all its eastern territories, pledges to never join NATO, agrees to have disband its military, pays Russia reparations and agrees than all future governments have to be approved by Russia. Even if that scenario, Russia will still be fucked up economically and undergoes 90’s. Thus Putin can only fight on to the bitter end.

>>513208080
yes.
in any case we built it and we will rebuild it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf6EjnWC0SE

>>513207851
>we do not attack those.
I just gave you 4 examples, and there are dozens more, you pidor.

"Russia strikes Sumy train station.
August 1, 2025,

On the evening of August 1, Russian troops hit a train station in the city of Sumy."
https://haqqin.az/news/355754

>>513206708
>there's at least 20,000 dead civilians in Mariupol alone
Your source?

>>513201874 (OP)
All of Ukraine belongs to Russia
Putin and Trump are being generous
Jewlynski is a Jew war criminal , he needs to be arrested and tortured until he gives up all information on the Jew globalist running Ukraine.

>>513205165
I think all of that was predicated on the conditions in Ukraine's 1990 declaration of sovereignty, which was the basis on which Russia recognized Ukraine's sovereignty and independence. Article 9 paragraph 5 of Ukraine's declaration of sovereignty says Ukraine is supposed to be a permanently neutral country that will never join NATO. Although I guess the paragraph is formulated so that a lawyer could argue that Ukraine can technically weasel out of it.

>>513208268
you gave me very famous false flags like the one on your picture.

>>513205165
I think all of that was predicated on the conditions in Ukraine's 1990 declaration of sovereignty, which was the basis on which Russia recognized Ukraine's sovereignty and independence. Article 9 paragraph 5 of Ukraine's declaration of sovereignty says Ukraine is supposed to be a permanently neutral country that will never join NATO. Yet Ukraine applied for NATO membership in 2008. Although, I guess the paragraph is formulated in such a way that a lawyer could argue that, from a legal perspective, Ukraine can technically weasel itself out of its neutrality commitment.

>>513208268
Shut up Jew before you get put in a death camp

>>513201874 (OP)
Kneel!

>>513205494
Ukriane could easily win if America at any point decided they actually wanted to aid Ukraine in winning. America has over 600 operational F35s and more in storage. If it trained Ukrainian technicians and pilots and sent just 50 of its F35s then Ukraine would win air superiority permenantly and be able to launch deep air raids in Russia. Proof: Israel has been using F35s to do the exact same thing to Iran which uses Russian air defence.

>>513207995
Let me explain to you how democracy works, nigger.
Democracy is when the entire nation gets to vote, including those icky Russian speaking regions.
Dictatorship is when a bunch of soccer hooligans in the capitol overthrow the elected representatives of the rest of the country because they happen to live nearby.
If the niggers in DC started rioting and ran the President out of the country because they didn't want to wait 2 years for his term to end, you're damn right I would take up arms and kill every last one of those traitors.
Just as I hope some lucky DPR or LPR drone operator kills you.

>>513201874 (OP)
Well, its what he wants. Showed a good map yesterday on the news explaining it. Its what he wants. Oh? Zelensky wont do it? Well, FUCK, war it is.
>fingers kinda crossed for newly imposed sanctions against Russia working

>>513208086
>the kind of rockets we use now are incredibly powerful.
kek, you retards use EVERYTHING left over from the ussr, cruise missiles (Kh-55SM, Kh-101/102, Kh-55/55SM/555), fabs, Iranian and Chinese drones etc. ALL of which are smaller than the Iskander. Don't play dumb, pidor.

>>513208618
nigger iran and syria had no air defense.
those were destroyed by israel while syria revolt happened.

>>513208746
the incidents you brought used tochka U.
I explained to you that those rockets have been replaced decades ago with iskander.

>>513201874 (OP)
Anyone can make deals if they involve paying 150% of the asking price.
Trump is a fraud isn't he. Gypping drywall contractors in Queens isn't "deal making".

>>513208324
>false flags like the one on your picture.
they literally know the names of the russian pilots that dropped the bombs and their commanding officer, you filth.

>>513208847
Hohols have no cards.

>>513208877
lmao
exactly.
they know the things they can't possibly know.
because it is a fabrication.

>>513208618
Easily win
1.5 million dead Slavs
The only people winning are globalist kikes who are now flooding empty Ukraine in anticipation of the US (((BlackRock)))completely rebuilding it at a cost of 10 trillion tax payer dollars.

>>513208877
Why you afraid of providing your source? >>513208297

>>513201874 (OP)
merkel and western faggots broken the promise when they armed hoholstan in the secret

There are only two possible outcomes of this. Either Ukraine accepts a deal from Russia or Ukraine gets completely conquered. There's no other way, no matter how much you whine and cry about it. The conquering may take time, but it will happen eventually as Ukraine runs out of manpower and the goodwill of its remaining population. They can preserve part of their nation or lose all of it.

>>513201874 (OP)
Wasn't Ukraine offered this deal in 2022 in Turkey? lmao

>>513205890
actually, russia did it a year before by blocking without reason all ukrainian exports in Russia in a (successful) attempt to coerce Ukraine into not getting closer ties with EU a year before. But it's not like you know anything that you're Russian handler would haven't told you.

>>513201874 (OP)

Russia has already taken Donbas and Donbas wanted to secede before the war even started.

If you think Ukraine is taking that territory back you're delusional.

>>513208998
Nah. Istanbul terms were better, way better. No Kherson, Zaporozhie regions were claimed. even Donetsk/Lugansk status were open for discussion.

>>513208976
back in the russian empire times when we conquered the caucuses there was a tiny nation called circassian who were in the very same position ukraine is today.

they also refused to negotiate and refused reasonable compromises from the west because of their pride.

they no longer exist today.

>>513208684
>kleptocrat driven out in 2014 by mass protests
>dopamine-poisoned chump bites on a decade of Russian disinformation
>thinks he's defending democracy in 2025
You seem a little confused, anon. Care to explain how you got here?

>>513208975
Look it’s just Jews vs humans , that’s all it is , that’s all it ever is.
Jews wanted Russias fast natural resources and wanted Ukraine as new Israel. They will still get Ukraine as new Israel and will keep scheming against Russia.

>>513201874 (OP)
It's better to just keep fighting then. It's not a peace deal, it's a reward for bombing civilians and invading deal. Fuck off.

>>513209394
This. To the last Ukrainian slava

>>513201874 (OP)
Donbass is not 'eastern ukraine'. Donbass is not even all of the four oblasts Russia has claimed. This means cucktin is ready to cuck out and give up on Kherson and Zaphorizhia.

>>513208838
>decades ago
blah, blah, blah.
you've used them in Second Chechen war, Osetia, Syria and yes Ukraine as recently as 2024. AND you've been buying back old soviet shit from everyone from NK to fucking Belarus and Yemen.

>>513209394
Maybe if you keep crying and whining the people invading will start to care about how morally offended you are.

cuck occupied government

>>513209394
IP address Israel

>>513209122
>Just disarm and trust us bro, oh and please agree to these political provision we definitely won't abuse to justify another invasion in 5 years

>>513209394
like you ever care about invasions or civilians.

just why do you have to be so hypocritical.
it would be so much more interesting if you just said it as it is and were not trying to get to moral high ground you do not deserve.

the real reasons why you are like that are far more interesting

>>513207621
>devalvation
do you want Steam to be banned in Ukraine or something

>>513209517
If Ukraine accepted the 2022 peace deal (and gave up their claims) they'd be in NATO by now with a population ready to fight the next war.

>>513209517
They can do that or they can be completely conquered. They don't have the upper hand and are reliant on the mercy of their invader, should they choose to show any. That's what happens when you're losing a war.

>>513209480
Not really: with this "deal" Russia would get Ukraine most fortified positions for free and then they could get into ukraine way more easily.

>>513209489
and that info comes also from your ass?

>>513209521
It’s typical of Jews
It’s all about money
Jews would kill ( and are trying with their shots and wars ) ever goyim on the planet if they could steal their shit.
All Jews must die

>>513208297
>Your source?
"Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boichenko says more than 20,000 civilians have been killed in the city."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/11/three-killed-in-russian-attacks-ukraine-donetsk-liveblog

"More than 1,500 new graves have been dug at a mass burial site near the southern Ukrainian city of Mariupol, according to an analysis of new satellite images carried out for the BBC."
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63536564

"Russia says 3,000 civilians killed in Mariupol"
https://www.anews.com.tr/world/2022/12/30/russia-says-3000-civilians-killed-in-mariupol-blames-ukraine

>>513208618
>yes, it just needed a new wunderwaffe
>part 5

>>513209615
2022 had provision against ukraine joining NATO and preventing the presence of foreign troops in ukraine.
>>513209616
They can make the war sufficiently painful to continue for Russia to ask for less

>>513209759
You US jews started the war for profit.
Millions have died , you will be held accountable.

>>513209876
So? Russia doesn't follow treaties and neither do we frankly.

>>513209759
Source: ukraine says so
Nice propaganda faggot

>>513209876
>They can make the war sufficiently painful to continue for Russia to ask for less
You people are truly delusional. If you feel that way, that they should suffer and die en masse just for the possibility of decreasing Russia's territorial demands, then why don't you go fight there yourself? They need more cannon fodder since they're running out, you know? You can show the world how righteous you are.

>>513208932
>they know the things they can't possibly know.
kek, your retarded pilots and their COs literally have facebook and other pages with their own info and photos ... you're even dumber that you look, pidor. Nothing can be hidden anymore from state run hackers and spying agencies.

>>513209948
Back in 2022, the west didn't want to give security guarantees to Ukraine, so it wouldn't have changed much, and Russia managed to fumble early invasion hard enough that Ukrainian thought they had a shot.

>>513210006
sure they even took a picture in front of it with their passport on display

>>513209984
wtf are you even talking about retard, I'm just explaining their action

>>513201874 (OP)
> a promise he has broken before
If they refuse this offer it is 100% certain that he keeps attacking. It all depends on whether they want to give peace a chance or not.

>>513201966
It's not up to Trump. Ukraine can keep on fighting if they want to.

>>513210075
Boris Johnson had so much faith in Ukraine he gave Zelensky guarantees that NATO would arm his men and the confidence to turn down the treaty.

Here /po/ I found your theme song.

The Devil Is A Democrat - Tom MacDonald

https://youtu.be/wKdFeZTnAK0?si=NoBQbOfA2CViBZl3

>>513209968
>Source:
literally russia said "it was only 3,000" and quickly leveled and removed all the mass graves in the city. the link is right there, pidor. The sattelite images of the city showed 1,500 NEW MASS GRAVES in November 2022.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63536564

>>513201874 (OP)
Must be pretty annoying to be Putin and keep repeating the same terms year after year

>>513210240
lmao

>>513209493
>Russia has to ask North Korea for help
>funds draining to war effort
>the US getting ROI on old defense spending weapons
Boo hoo.

>>513209502
>>513209724
Israel should also leave Gaza and stop their genocide.

>>513209521
You need to make incorrect assumptions and use retard armchair psychology to cope. Russia should just leave Ukraine, it's simple.

>>513201874 (OP)
>russia gets: more ukrainian land than they have actually taken
>ukraine gets: another non-binding promise from russia not to attack them
You know, when it's not a scripted show for television, I think this Trump guy isn't all that great at making deals.

>>513210240
>bbc
kek

>>513210114
"...gained unique access to the phone of Russian Su-34 fighter pilot Alexander Krasnoyarskev, who survived after his plane was shot down by defenders of Chernigov on March 5, 2022.

The phone, which the man used from July 16, 2019 until his capture in March 2022, contained more than 60 gigabytes of photos, videos, and correspondence telling about the pilot's life before the war and during the invasion. Here are the most interesting ones."
https://nashaniva.com/ru/362853

>>513201874 (OP)
gib russia to russian naow

>>513201874 (OP)
instead of east-berlin
we'll have east-Kiev
and Trump's beautiful wall

>>513210240
No it didnt faggot

>>513201874 (OP)
A ceasefire along current lines is very generous. Russia could conquer much more territory now that Ukraine's frontline starts to crumble.

>>513210197
>according to russian propaganda

>>513201874 (OP)
Ukrainians can just kick Russians out of there with the might of their victorious military if they don't like it.

>>513201874 (OP)
I am Putin's successor, Igor Vodkavitch. I made no such promise.

>>513210487
>we only murdered 3,000 in Mariupol
>RT
ok, pidor

>>513209517
>Just disarm and trust us bro
Istanbul treaty had official security guarantees from US and EU, in case of attack on the Hruckraine in it's text as compensation for reduced army size.

Russia's goal was to eliminate the capacity of the Hruckraine being the threat, meaning it not being the biggest army in continental Europe(except Russia) and not being alighed with military bloc created to oppose Russia.

Nobody wants hohol pidors as goal itself. It's just that simple. Potentials and capacity to do things, this what matters, ask any politican and military.

>>513210460
Ukraine gets a ceasefire. This is already more than they deserve.

>>513210689
You're saying Zelensky turned down the 2022 peace deal without knowing that NATO was going to give him the security guarantee of sending his military weapons?

>>513210689
According to Naftali Bennet.

>>513201874 (OP)
>a promise he has broken before
the promise had conditions which the us violated.

america funded the genocide of ukrainian men lmao

>>513210240
Why are you a lying piece of shit posting CIA propaganda?
B
No where in that.article does it day russia admitted to killing civillians

Only 13,000 civillians have been killed in 3.5 years
Faggot

>>513209065
kek. only retards believe in russian propaganda. All the non-retarded russians don't believe it either are leaving and now they can't even beat jeets to the moon

>>513210755
Nevet happened faggot
2022 was 100% CIA paid for propaganda out of ukraine

>>513209759
>April 12: Mariupol Mayor Vadym Boichenko says
I see, and mayor, who fled the city and left it's citizens on 27 february, before the city fighting, could know how many civilians died when fighting in the city was still ongoing, in april 2022? It's not like he had any control over the situation in the city.

Please, explain.

>>513206278
>we are not hurting civilians.

>>513201966
The goal of clearing former Khazaria of fighting age men has been completed, now they need to end the fighting so Blackrock can behind to build the Third Temple in Neo-Tophet so Greater Israel can assume its role as the head of the Noahide New World Order that will rule the world for the next 1000 years.

>>513210835
sending weapons isn't a security guarantee
negociation fell off because Russia retreated from Kiev and other areas, making the Ukrainian not as hard pressed as they were to make an agreement
2022 istanbul failed because Russia had demands that it couldn't enforce on the battlefield and wouldn't compromise

>>513201874 (OP)
ukraine is russia, why would anyone have a problem with this besides zionist khazarian larpers?

>>513210783
The ceasefire would be ostly for the russians at this point

>>513210207
If Satan were a person this is what he'd look like

>>513204724
>reddit

the same thing happens here you act like we didn't invite literal russian glowniggers to shill here with /syg/ in 2015

Are Russians even human? Even their posts here are just low effort putinite propaganda. I struggle to believe that a nation of 150 million people can be this daft

Retarded deal, russia is giving up its claims on everything else for nothing, meaning they are pressed, no one’s going to give them their most fortified territories for a pinkie promise from el pedophilo

>>513202085
>>513202085
>Russia already has eastern Ukraine
And Blackrock, Vanguard and Monsanto own the farmland. Ukraine is a depopuated ex-country. Forget about Ukraine, it's history.

>>513211020
I'm half russian and most of my mother friend's in university are now working in top american university. It's been grim for russia since the 90's. Main issue is the belief that they should be treated equal to the US. If they had work to improving their country instead of chasing imperial dream, they could have been in a similar situation than poland, prosperity wise.
>>513210838
Just wanted to make himself more important than he was. "It's thanks to me that Zelensky isn't dead". Can't really trust the guy.

>>513211297
>sending weapons isn't a security guarantee
I disagree but if NATO didn't want to give security guarantees to Ukraine in 2022 why would they send them billions of dollars worth of weapons?
>2022 istanbul failed because Russia had demands that it couldn't enforce on the battlefield and wouldn't compromise
and my original post was intended to say it's ironic we're here now with a couple million men less.

That’s fine, give the Donbas to Russia
The trade is that Ukraine becomes part of NATO and gets ~20 tactical nukes and ~10 strategic nukes, and the US installs AShM batteries in Odessa and a patriot ring around Kiev

Who gives a shit what Russia wants? They started this gay war, the US could wipe the floor with Russia in eight days. In fact, the simple fact that Trump hasn’t sent a B2 to level the kremlin is gay and I hate him for it.

>>513211297
>sending weapons isn't a security guarantee
Lying nigger.

>>513202611
Ukraine never had nukes, retard. Soviet nukes hosted on what became Ukrainian territory did not magically belong to Ukraine. And this shit was settled was resolved long before Obama was president, so you're wrong about that too

>>513205676
>the eastern block

>>513205890
Trying to bring then into NATO in 2008 (literally against the Ukrainian constitution) predates the coup

>>513202134
Your acting like in 2022 Ukraine wasn’t amassing forces on the border with Donetsk and was already shelling it and there was intel of a planned invasion and Merkel even said the Minsk II was a lie to buy time to build Ukraine’s military for a Donbas invasion.

You just completely ignore all of that, including talk like if the Russian line breaks they go to Moscow.

If NATO Jews stop trying to amass military power to invade Russia (including Donbas) then Putin will not attack.

>>513211328
I want to see Putin suffer because he showed weakness, the only reason his faggot ass, shoigu, and gerasimov are alive is because prigozhin was insanely naive
Same reason I want to see trump suffer, the mere mention of the Epstein list makes his asshole audibly pucker

Rumor according to Kalub Maupin, who makes commentary appearances on RT and thus may have something, Ukraine to be given the frozen billions in Russian assets in exchange for the eastern territories. That's a pretty good deal for a losing side that will need to rebuild and sounds like a Trump art of the deal.
This is why Alaska was chosen as a symbolic setting, ref the sale of the territory to the US.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zECBiqifgls

>>513201934
Says the anti white communist

>>513211966
You're talking to either shills, ideologues, or retards. Facts don't matter to either.

>>513212002
Kalub Maupin is a literal communist his opinions are irrelevant

>>513211929
Destabilizing Russian and regime change is an obvious, almost openly stated goal of the West (tacitly stated through all their policy publications).
Meanwhile, while Russia would invade Baltics, Finland and up to the Elbe in the event of WWIII, they have no plans or benefits from even invading Poland otherwise. Not remotely worth the cost, nor any point to it.

>>513201874 (OP)
Just give them Alabama Texas and north Dakota and call it a day.

>>513212123
He's intelligent, you're an idiot. Why don't you off yourself.

>>513205494
>the death of every male in the ukraine.

this was the jewish goal

>>513212206
> Intelligent
> Communist
Pick one

>>513211966
All of that is true and recorded by the OSCE btw

>>513211766
just need to find those guarantor states ready to put their head on the chopping block next time russian chimpout (pro-tip, they don't exist).

>>513202134
They can either give it up now or after their entire male population is dead. The former seems preferable.

>>513208779
Russia has no effectively no air defence, it is regularly just flown past by basic bitch drones because the crews tend to be too busy engaging in vital disciplinary action all night long.

>>513210207
Isn't this dude from canada?

>>513211966
NATO gains nothing by invading Russia
You can croon all you want about “nato aggression” but it’s the same self-fulfilling prophecy shit that Russia peddles where they repeatedly behave like nigger apes internationally then beg for the world to not be mean to them
They did a spook op and took Sevastopol with Russian troops, and were arming rebels in the Donbas.

Ultimately no one cares what happens to Russia because they are utterly powerless to stop it. They’re a niggerfied nation filled with Muslims and to keep existing, they’ll be importing hundreds of thousands of third worlders to replace white russians

Am I nato shill if I hate all slavs equally and want to see all their men turned into fertilizer and all their woman turned into my sex slaves?

>written pledge
LMAO as if that will mean anything. Trump is Putin's fleshlight at this point.

>>513212123
You’re a Jew nigger commie, get fucked red nigger

>>513212314
You’re a ESL given how skilfully you skip articles

>>513212306
>They did a spook op and took Sevastopol with Russian troops,

Dont be stupid. Russia always had troops in Sevastipol, it was owned by Russia.

>>513212234
The gay pride parades are in what countries?

>>513212002
>fake and gay monopoly goy money in exchange for real land, assets, and materiel
Yes it truly is the art of the deal: retarded and extremely Jewish

Why has this thread kept going? You're all crippled retards.

>>513211762
Fuckin boomer

>>513212306
Just shut the fuck up nigger

>>513202887
couldn't we simply trade east ukraine with ziggers for Finland?

>>513202093
It's the obvious reality that Zelensky refuses to admit because he knows he's a dead man.

>>513212449
Crimea is sacred and the hohols doshonor it. It was home to Scythians, Goths and Anglo-Saxons at various times.

>>513212532
If you level Finland we’ll give you three train cars of fertile Ukrainian plapcows

>>513202134
You do know ALL of Ukraine belonged to Russia until 1992 when the Russians VOLUNTARILY GAVE Ukraine independence, right? Right ? I mean I would hate to have to call you a ignorant kike programmed NPC.

good,fuck Ukraine,they lost
this whole war was a Obama administration glownigger idea to begin with and should have been snuffed out 4 years ago

>>513205371
>We violated treaties to not extend nato beyond its original boundaries
You fell for Russian propaganda. We had no such treaties. What they had was a private informal agreement. And it was with someone who doesn’t exist anymore.
The actual treaty we broke is the one where Ukraine gave up their nukes and in exchange we were supposed to directly protect them.

>>513212460
Does not change the fact that hes self proclaimed communist and therefore all his opinions are irrelevant and that he needs to be put to death

>>513202458
Trump means that he could easily nuke the shit out of Russia and eurocucks would just bitch and moan about those fascist psycho Americans while being secretly relieved. No matter how many VPNs you use everyone hates you now and you've been exposed as a huge paper tiger.

>>513209255
So the votes of Kiev count more than the votes of Donetsk and Kharkov and Sumy and Mariupol and Sevastopol. Got it. Understood. Crystal clear. Now face the wall.

>>513211929
I fail to see how that's relevant.

>>513212479
Losing everything and getting nothing or losing something and getting something.

Pick one faggot

>>513212306
Why shouldn't NATO invade Russia? If you hate them so much, why not just do it? I want to see more invasions. Using military force is absolutely a valid way to gain territory, and only globalist liberals who want the world to stay the same forever disagree. Borders being frozen forever is a retarded concept. Again, if Ukraine or eastern Europe really hates Russia that much, they should've just invaded first. The world needs more offense and less defense.

>>513212387
The fuck are you on about, Kalub Maupin is a open communist, heres a picture of him

>>513212436
One in four Americans are illiterate, cut him some slack

>>513211966
Its almost like they wholesale lied to and mislead the American people.

>>513212306
>rebels
aka locals. Ukraine was going to join NATO. USA armed rebels in Kiev in 2014. USA has no business fucking around in Ukraine and pissing off russia. Democrats and blue team glowies like you just have to poke the bear because you hate Putin for arresting oligarchs and sending them packing to London

>>513212738
Kill yourself commie nigger, better dead than red

>>513212449
Zoomer detected, it’s only been that way since a fake and gay “democratic” poll in 2014
Any time “democracy” is mentioned, it’s Jewish
>>513212531
Where am I wrong? Russia ruined two white countries demographically for decades to come, and all they will end up with is some swampy farmland.
They’re tried to go for a decapitation strike, but were too retarded and inept to successfully do so. For this alone they deserve to have everything reset to the borders drawn in 1991

Shills mad

>>513212769
you agree Kalub Maupin needs to be killed thats good

>>513212306
>NATO gains nothing by invading Russia
yes but once Russia falls then NATO's next target for invasion and regime change is California, so there is a silver lining

>>513212780
Here’s how it went
>oh no no no Russian masters! please put the soldiers away from the capital, then we’ll have peace talks
>*sighs* okay
>ukrainiggers do a jewkraine and get high on their own pube fumes, kneeling to BoJo and agreeing for THD
>…
>3 years later
Also
>the ukranny
>White
Get fucked nigger

>>513212753
This is who ran the op. Secretary Hillary's war bitch.

>>513212813
I agree your family will be raped and beheaded commie nigger

>>513201874 (OP)
All of Hoholstan should belong to Russia and fagensky should die for stealing so much of the wests tax money.

>>513212960
Go back to worshipping the syphilis ridden kike corpse of Lenin

>>513212961
Wah too moderate to my liking

>>513212479
I'm curious what you think is the better choice for the Ukraine.
Realistic scenarios only. Elenskyy isn't going to go Super Saiyan and retake the Crimea with a Spirit Bomb any time soon.

>>513212613
Budapest wasn't a treaty either. We were also not supposed to involve ourselves in their domestic policy but here we are.

>>513213004
Go back to sucking Stalin’s dick you pathetic commie inbred. Neo communist nigger drowning in psoriasis puss, you should get whipped to a frenzy and get a job

>>513213142
Heh i like you now, most russians cant ever speak ill of the communist vermin Stalin

>>513212732
I agree
The US should take Vladivostok, we’ll need it as a launch point when we eventually come into conflict with china, it’d be a good place to launch strikes on qingdao
>>513212646
The fact that Russia is entertaining a deal shows that the situation for them is critical and they’re getting worn out grinding out territory foot by foot.
Their normal MO is just to not talk to anyone and suddenly hold a “referendum” once they’ve completely crippled some poor border nation
>>513212755
I hate Putin because I like Russia
The fact that Russia is such a fake and gay paper tiger and is filled with utterly incompetent generals and leaders means that the only thing that prevents a unipolar globohomo WEF nightmare future is china.
Putin is a feckless retard. This deal does nothing but prolong the fake and gay current hegemony

>>513212633
If we're going to point to the side that violated the Budapest Memorandum first you would naturally want to talk about the earliest incidence of it, which was 2008 at the Bucharest summit:
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/official_texts_8443.htm
The Maidan would never had happened if the US hasn't started openly seeking Ukrainian membership in NATO

>>513201874 (OP)
Hilldawg called it yesterday. lol

>>513201966
>>513201934
>>513201874 (OP)
Are you guys retarded, do you think there is any peace deal that involves Russia giving up the eastern and southern parts and Crimea?
As long as giving that up is on the table there is no peace deal.
Russia does not even need to make major advances at this point Zelensky will just send more Ukrainians to die until nothing is left.
Sure the front will occasionally move a few meter or even a few km, but that doesn't change anything.
Ukraine will run out of people at some point and they will do so faster than Russia.
Unless you belong to the people that believe Ukraines propaganda with them claiming having literally killed 50% more Russian soldiers than Russia has even send into the conflict.
All while Ukraine has demanded from western nations that people that fled to the west are send back to them so they can join the war effort.

>>513202134
>the war will never end
Until either the jews or Russia are defeated, this does not end. Any ceasefire is only a surface level pause.

>>513203379
>Now Ukraine isn’t even allowed to have elections. Democrats and the EU fabricated this war entirely by their own choice.

So democrats and EU made Russia to invade?

Its in Ukraine constitution not to have presidential elections during war. Its not guestion about your or anyone else opinnion. Its not about "but X nation had elections during war in a year 1923", Ukraine follows Ukraine constitution, not what some random nation did.

If you worry so much about elections ask why there havent been fair election in Russia during past 30 years.

You are rusbot or useful idiot, nothing more.

>>513206278
> we are not hurting civilians
Doubt (X)

>>513210177
fighting to the death, only leaves them dead. There was nothing else. The jewish mission was complete. Here's how it went. They installed someone who gave away their rare-Earth minerals, took all the aid and gave it to Israel, and made all the whites in the region died. It was WIN-WIN for Zelensky. He did EXACTLY was he was supposed to do. Goals achieved. MISSION COMPLETE!

>>513205494
The war would be over already if western nations kept out of it, we are all equally part in breaking international agreements, like no weapons for conflict zones.

The best war for the people if war happens is a quick and short one, the longer a war goes, the more extreme the suffering for the people becomes.

>>513213190
Right, we're just focused on the actual crossed lines and not the stroll up to them.

>>513213185
>paper tiger
>producing munitions than all of NATO combined
>China quietly whistling as it builds a giant blue water navy
I'm sure another reddit rAIDS will turn the tide. Have you placed a blue and gold overlay on your PFP yet? Don't forget to updoot!

>>513205494
Hes not being played, hes one of them, the playing. Being played are the population of Ukraine, thrown en masse to die fighting brother men. All of that to free up space to start installing sandkikes in the vast and fruitful lands of Ukraine. He more than played his part. Ukraine has been bled out. The men are dead, broken or abroad, the women are sucking german cocks for pennies. Mission was accomplished long ago, any more than that is just a bonus on top.

WAKE THE FUCK UP

giving? they already hold most of it.

>>513202134
>pls surrender already, it's been 3.5 years of a limited, small, special military operation; basically just a summer camp
>PLS!!!! SURRENDER!!!!
at this point Ukraine is gonna kill as many russoids on their way out, just out of spite
they literally don't care anymore.

>>513201874 (OP)
How would you get Russia to sign a peace agreement on Ukraine's terms?

NATO/Europe/USA getting directly involved in military action is not an option.

>>513203165
those were not russian missiles. those were soviet missiles which were built by the soviet people. after the divorce they were split. half became russian, another half became ukrainian.
so ukies owned a). the missiles and b). their nuclear status. the fact that they did not have codes for the electronis does not matter. chemical elements do not need codes. explosives do not need codes. they could have eventually replaced electronics and get some working missiles/warheads.

>>513213060
> I'm curious what you think is the better choice for the Ukraine.
If Ukraine is strategically important, then we should let them become part of nato and freeze the lines where they are. Putin keeps what he’s taken and Ukraine gets full NATO membership
If it’s not important, we have no business doing anything with it, let alone facilitating these gay peace talks

My vote is the former, simply because it’s more fun and it seems like Poland has been spoiling for this Article 5 fight for decades. It’d also fully satisfy Zelenskyy. What more could you possibly complain about, even losing the Donbas, you now have access to NATOs collective defense agreement?

very good deal they should take it

>>513206708
Cannot believe any numbers from Ukraine.
Bucha with a Russian massacre happening three days after the Russians left and the major saying nothing extreme happened and all the dead people either had a neutral color sign or Russian rations for civilians.
How about a rocket strike on a civilian trains station done by Russians, with a missile type only Ukraine still uses, fired from the direction of the Ukrainian forces with a Ukrainian serial number.

Many such cases

>>513206708
would be 20-30 if hyhyls didn't barricade themselves in all those buildings there and let all the residents out of the city instead of killing the fleeing mean shi- I mean civilians. You posted the gnarlies buildings, if you look at pics where buildings are somewhat intact and where there was less fighting then in all those pics you have blackened 2nd-3rd floors (where piggers walled themselves in, most optimal floors to shoot down on incoming forces) while the rest of the floors have fairly clean exterior.

Mariupol is the dumbest example you dips bring up.

>>513208618
America couldn't win against Iran, which is no Russia in its capabilities. The only chances the jews had to win against Russia was decapitating gayops, which have thus far failed.

>>513201934
This is what I want Frankly Russia should have all of UKR. Quite a good negotiation! Can't Stump The Trump!

>>513213664
This guy gets it.

Anyways, what happened to that talk of using the conquered territory to create a buffer state between Russia and Ukraine?

>>513201934
Why are you russians such faggots.
Holy shit.

>>513213606
>give Russia what it wants.
Lol no

>>513201874 (OP)
How can you give someone something they already own?

>>513207212
That is the fucking tochka U fired from a Ukrainian position and with a Ukrainian serial number.

Ukraine does this all the time.
Like saying Russia dropped butterfly mines over cities they themselves control and no one questions what happened to the 6 million illegal butterfly mines Ukraine had before the war and was supposed to dispose.

>>513201874 (OP)
>which they broken before
lmao what jewspeak
Complete bonkers

>>513214134
>Frankly Russia should have all of UKR.
Hello my fellow American from Ohio oblast

>>513208268
Yet Ukraine always fails to mention how they have illegally taken their own population as civilians hostages because they place their forces and gear in theaters, schools, kindergartens, shopping centers and even hospitals.

>give them eastern Ukraine
>Russia already has it
>”””gIvE”””

what did OP mean by this?

>>513208746
Russia decommissioned tochka U's like 40 years ago and Ukraine are the online ones still using them.

>>513214556
I'm from New Jersey? You know people have different views and opinions of things, right?

>>513214504
Jewish media always has to make sure to slip in the view they want you to have.

>>513214595
I think they means everything east of the Dnieper

>>513202134
He promised he won't break it, can you read.

>>513209759
How is this a source that proves Russia is using Tochka U.
This is from the current conflict and we have already seen how hard Ukraine uses fog of war and propaganda.

>>513201874 (OP)
Can an Amerifart explain why the orange retard is making a deal with Russia WITHOUT the party that it actually affects? Y’all truly are fucked down there. Pedos and kikes rule your every move. You should be begging us to annex you.

>>513202218
Trump wants to devalue the dollar. The only way to do that is to create a stable world so less people buy dollars.

>>513213866
>x does not need codes
Unless it does. Ukrainians couldn’t operate those and once they tried the warhead began heating so they got scared and begged Moscow for help
>>513213176
It’s good we both agree you’re a commie nigger and deserve to learn the fisherman’s knot

>>513214579
ukraine fails to do so, but their "allies" are slowly easing into saying how it is so that by the time inevitable comes to pass the people won't care anymore

>>513211020
You say that and post an article like that.
May I remind you that Ukraine and western media propaganda has been telling us that Russia is running out of ammo, rockets, tanks, planes and what not within 2 weeks and they won't have means to get more.
All while it is estimated that Russia produces more rockets and artillery shells than the combined NATO.

Now apparently Russia is running somehow out of scientist.

>>513201874 (OP)
Duh.
>giving
Putin already took it. Trump isn't giving anything away he's telling Zelensky to fucking accept the facts.

>>513201966
>>513202218
You little faggot antifa roaches need to take more fentanyl with your heroine.

>>513212306
NATOs ist expansion is strategic positioning for a decisive strike that leaves no room for retaliation.
Ukraine under NATO control is especially important as in Ukraine the European flat lands open up which give room for a land invasion as many natural deterents are lost.

I want to remind that the bio weapons lab thing was revealed to be true, the US just said they were used for a defensive purpose.

>>513201874 (OP)
>a written pledge
:^)

>>513201934
UKRAINE WILL NEVER SURRENDER. MY BROTHERS WILL KILL EVERY LAST FUCKING RUSSIAN INVADER. WHY GIVE UP ANYTHING WHEN WE ARE WINNING? FUCK EVERY PIG RUSSIAN DOG IN THE ASS WITH OUR GIANT FUCKING UKRAINIAN COCKS. YOU WILL FEEL THE THROBBING YOU PIECES OF SHIT. YOU WILL BEG FOR PEACE TREATY.

>>513214926
Because Trump thinks he's the King of the world and whatever he says goes.
It's even more stupid when you consider Trump keeps insisting the war in Ukraine has nothing to do with him.

>>513205165
No matter how hard you are going to pretend that Budapest memorandum was only saying "Russia totally unconditionally pledges it won't ever attack Ukraine whatever Ukraine is going to do or become. Period", it was Ukraine which declined to ratify it, it wasn't that all participants just forgot, nah. So it is void a long time.

>>513213755
>I will give Ukraine MOAB's unless you pull out
>I will fly B2s over Moscow
etc

>>513214231
Yeah you democrats need to protect your assets in Ukraine, like Hunter Bidens shady dealings.

>>513204724
What needs to happen is for there to be euronigger boots on the ground. Once europoors start having to draft people, they will cease being people war. They are only pro war as long as they don't have to fight.

>>513215078
Building nearby, nice way to say it was the same fucking building.

>>513215751
>people war
*pro war people
Fuck phoneposting

>>513201934
Based, Slave Ukraine

>>513215589
Russia poisoned the Ukrainian opposition in 2005 for not being pro Russian enough, an act of war in itself.
The point is Russia thinks lying is a manly trait, Russians even have a word for it called vryanyo which means when you lie to someone but they don't call you out on it so you feel like you proved dominance.

It is the verbal version of shoulder bumping another guy in a bar.

Civilized countries think this is idiotic shit and don't end up with a word for it because it isn't something people think is good.

This is also why you have vid rel happen and then the Kremlin saying contradictory nonsense all the time, like saying 'the USSR never formally was dissolved so Ukraine is an internal Russian matter'

>>513214853
>Russia promised
Their word is worth nothing, because they are not an honorable people.

>>513214853
He's broken that promise before. Just look at the Budapest Memorandum

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>>513206749
it's commie minus all the social benefits.

>>513215864
>bullshit talking points
Just shutup

>>513201874 (OP)
Nigger