Thread 513223504

California legislature proposes a new map that would eliminate 5 GOP seats. Negating Texas gerrymandered map.

>>513223504 (OP)
Man forget about that shit, better tell me is this video real or AI?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mfG92TFPw0

Thank you based newsome

>>513223504 (OP)
good. fuck miga and fuck rekikelicans.

>>513223641
t. brownoid

>>513223738
my great grandfather fought on the right side of the war you repulsive kikeslave.

>>513223504 (OP)
Why do democrat states gerrymander so much?

>>513223504 (OP)
Texas said they'd make a map that would wipe out 10 dem seats if this is approved

>>513224110
Land doesn't vote, people do

>>513224014
Shut up Ahmed

>>513224151
Doubtful. Republicucks never do anything.

>>513224014
Too bad he fucking sucked. Imagine how many allied dicks your grandma had to take because he lost.

>>513223504 (OP)
Real question. Why did the red sportsball team do this if they knew it would make the blue sportsball team do this in response? Who wins from this?

>>513224485
the GOP still has more states they can gerrymander (the south)
the dems only have New York and California to gerrymander which will still be a harder process to do so compared to the GOP who reasons they can win in this fight

Importing 100 million Mexicans and giving them free houses just to own blumpf

Fuck yeah

>>513223504 (OP)
LOL

>>513224227
Cities don't fight, men who live in the country do.

>>513224679
We did it reddit

Maga owned

>>513224227
Latnigger, there are more republicans in California than any other state

Honestly kinda impressive they managed to find a way to do that.
I thought they had already minmaxxed the gerrymandering in California a while ago considering how hilariously underrepresented republicans already were.

>>513224227
Trump won the popular vote.

>>513224485
>Who wins from this?
jews

>>513225053
Yeah, 40% of the voters, 17% of the seats. Luckily, Missouri and Ohio are also redistricting.

>>513225053
The proposed map is a risk reward gamble.
The current map they made super Republican districts to insure more safe dem seats.
If they do this it is a gamble as they make some safe dem seats competitive in order to gain more total seats.
If they do this map and it is a bad midterm for the dems it could blow up in their face. The Republicans could end up with more seats than they started with.

>>513223504 (OP)
>State of Jefferson when?

The majority of those north state zones are to alienate the biggest red zones in the state

>>513223504 (OP)
There will be a legal fight. California passed a few ballot measures. Props 11 and 20 that set up a commission to draw the boundaries.

>>513226158
You can't make a new State out of an existing State. Not without changing the Constitution anyway.

>>513226211
>its just a "temporary" measure
I want newsom to be sued the fuck out for this

>>513226303
So what you're saying is West Virginia needs to be given back to Virginia.

>>513226568
Why?

>>513226873
>You can't make a new State out of an existing State. Not without changing the Constitution anyway.

>>513225216
Got less than 50% of the votes
AGAIN

>>513223504 (OP)
to bad I-8 I-10 I -5 i-80 will all be cutoff. no more cali.

>>513226433
>I want newsom to be sued the fuck out for this

you spelled hung from a tree wrong

>>513223504 (OP)
Nice. That's not gonna matter when the new congress enacted census costs democrats 20+ seats and billions in federal spending. They're basically a nigger jerking randomly as they finish drowning. Heil Trump! Heil Victory! Death to traitorous rats!

>>513227142
Are you unaware that Virginia was part of the Confederacy at the time of the creation of West Virginia?
That has to be the reason you are being smug about your lack of understanding.

The more you know.

>>513226303
You can with congressional consent and a state referendum relevant to the seceding region. Its not like they're leaving the US.

>>513223504 (OP)
>anyone can just change the rules when ever they like now
great now all the red states will do this
also release the epstein files

>>513227482
Clothes are hung, people are hanged.
You want Newsom HANGED for this.

>>513224303
they can and will

CA needs voter approval to do this
TX can just do it through their legislature

>>513224485
Dem states are already pretty heavily gerrymandered, while Rep states actually have a lot more room to gerrymander if they want to. That's part of the reason that the Dems are acting somewhat aggressive on this, they're trying to scare the Republicans out of starting the process because if the Republicans realize the leverage they've got then the Dems are somewhat fucked.

>>513224014
> my great grandfather fought on the right side of the war
He fought for the allies?
https://t.me/exposinghitler
https://t.me/redideologies

>>513223504 (OP)
Fantasy football shit, the same jews will run both parties no matter who they put into what seat in congress.
If you still care about redblue then you are literally dumber than most niggers.

>4 GOP seats
STILL WAY TO FUCKING MUCH
IT NEEDS TO BE ZERO

>>513227990
you lost.

>>513228064
We're trying really hard to normalize

>>513227805
>Democrat politicians
>People

>>513224485
The GOP wins, oddly enough, because SCOTUS is taking up gerrymandering this term and high-profile cases like this make it more likely for them to abolish it. As many have said in this thread, Democrats overwhelmingly gerrymander more than Republicans.

>>513224014
Then why stop rooting for the party of Roosevelt.

>>513228458
>me when I live in an alternate reality

>>513223504 (OP)
how is the redistricting shit representing the will of the people

>>513223560
Its an interpretive dance.

>>513224014
based & true. sieg heil pilled.
fuck the american jew slave.

>>513224110
your entire system,law etc is complete shit

>>513228650
It pretty explicitly isn't, which is why good-government types have a problem with it. But in the current era of politics it's more important for blue team to beat red team or vice versa rather than to represent the will of the people.

>>513228650
this.

libs are NOT going to save you.

>>513223504 (OP)
Why the fuck is it not just split up like a grid, and we stop this nonsense of trying to gerrymander all of the districts?

Fuck these kikes, fuck the talmud, and fuck israel.
This shit needs to stop, and they need to BE stopped.

>>513223560
Make a thread then faggot

>>513227226
Incorrect. Trump won the popular vote by 51%.

>>513227517
The official stance of the United States is that there was no recognized country called the CSA, only an Insurgency.

>>513230525
I am sure the Brits felt the American Revolution was just an insurgency as well.
This does not change the fact both "insurgencies" were in fact free when they took up arms against their oppressors.

>>513230913
If the CSA won the war, then sure a treaty would recognize the CSA.
Britain officially recognized the USA via treaty, because they lost the war.

>>513224485
Blue sports team is already heavily gerrymandered.
So either Red Sports team goes forward with their redistricting in their states and gain seats in the midterms, or gerrymandering gets made illegal and all states have to realign with how their people vote, and Red team gains seats in the midterms.
This is a no-lose situation for Red-team. Evey option forward from here has them gaining seats in the midterms because Blue team is not as popular as it thinks it is.

>>513223504 (OP)
Why not get rid of gerrymandered altogether?

>>513232885
Because then Republicans would gain seats in the midterms.

>>513232885
Because then Republicans would lose seats in the midterms

>>513231489
The second a man takes up arms in defense of his freedom he is free until he dies or gives it up.

>>513223504 (OP)
Oh noes!! Caliwali will be run by leftist commies forever!

>>513223504 (OP)
That entire North coast running all of rural Norcal is fully retarded.

>>513232885
Districts still have to be drawn. Every time they have computers draw districts the dems complain because the algorithm always quarters cities. This dilutes their strongest support.

There is no solution to this problem.

>>513224110
Because they are corrupt criminals
>>513224227
Yes these bussed in niggers do!

>>513223504 (OP)
At least Californians get to vote on it. Texas they just take your vote if you don't vote how they like.
Elected officials picking their voters makes for shitty political views.
Pay attention and you too can survive the financial uncertainty.

>>513224110
Rhode island makes sense

>>513224823
They fight over the one girl.in town. Even if she is your mom.

>>513224823
Wait. /pol/ told me White women are bad but..

>>513233604
Make objective districts.

>>513233653
California HAS to vote on it cause it's ILLEGAL to do it currently

>>513224894
no there aren't
t. rest of the states invaded by CA "republicans"

>>513223504 (OP)
California could shift far more seats than that if they really wanted to.
Texas and Florida have been gerrymandered to hell, getting blood from a stone here.

>>513233764
Explain.

>>513233653
>At least Californians get to vote on it.
Are you actually retarded? Voting has been fake & gay for decades here. Millions of non-citizens vote.

>>513223504 (OP)

Fair trade. 5 seats for 5 seats.

>>513223504 (OP)
Based, watching miga seethe is just as funny as watching liberals seethe

>>513233653
The state referendum is the only defense against Democrat tyranny in this state.
Newsom would have rammed it through with no resistance otherwise.

>>513233956
CA went with creating ruby red Republican districts to insure more safe dem seats.
Any change weakens the dems.

>>513223504 (OP)
wow (((democracy))) is so great

>>513233971
Look at how how people vote within counties. Make new county maps.

Here's fresno broken up.

>>513233956
Nah, Texas can gerrymandering at least 5 more on a stretch
Florida has 8 dem seats, so they can certainly purge a lot more.

>>513234140
>the only defense against Democrat tyranny
Bro, we're been a 1 party State for well over 2 decades now.

>>513223504 (OP)
Jokes on them. After the new census, california is losing half its congressional seats.

>>513234318
Nigga have you checked the ballot measures
We kept slavery, the death penalty and shot down nigger privilege through the ballot.
All of which were fully backed by the one party state yet failed.

>>513234247
In a perfect world how you vote should have no effect on creation of a district.
The goal is to create the same number of voters in each district. No political party wants a simple grid system that does only that.

>>513223504 (OP)
Fuck this entire map but CA-02 is a disgusting abomimation
>take entire blood-red chunk of far north cali
>have a bunch of Marin County kikes that hate them control their political representation

>>513233956
california is all bark no bite here. they "could" gerrymander the state to create a bunch of light blue seats but in reality this would just expose the entrenched 20+ year democrat leadership to challenges. And not just obvious challenges from a previous republican incumbent who lost his seat in the shuffle, and an interested republican party who are suddenly willing to drop 10 million dollars on a race if it has a reasonable shot at ousting critical democratic whips, but also internal challenges as their previously solid seat is suddenly in a contested region and the young side of the democratic party simply doesnt trust people like pelosi to have their interests in mind.

>>513223504 (OP)
>"since we can't gerrymander Texas, we're going to gerrymander the hell out of California!!!"
>picks up 5 seats because it was already gerrymandered to hell and back
They made a big public deal about how they were going to rig the most rigged state in the union. That would be like trying to make NYC more Jewish and terrible. Sure, it's technically possible. But is it worth the effort for the miniscule returns?

>>513234501
Kek, keep thinking you're "winning". I've lived in this State for over 40 years, it's a massive pile of shit.

>>513227715
man I spent so long trying to figure out this meme and it’s just spic bullshit

thought they were saying “a comer” like “a cummer” but meaning someone that came to kfc but no it’s fucking gay beaner shit

>>513223504 (OP)
Based. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

>>513233956
>California could shift far more seats than that if they really wanted to.
No they couldn't. California votes 40% Republican and only has 17% Republican held seats.
California is the third most gerrymandered state in the US right now, behind Illinois and Maryland.

>>513223504 (OP)
States' rights to gerrymander.

>>513234622
Okay. Do that.
>they don't want it
Too bad.

>>513224227
I strongly disagree.

>>513234980
No matter what way your State leans it is always a case of politicians choosing their voters.
Without an armed uprising this will not change. This is not a reason to start an armed uprising. We just have to deal with it.

>>513224227
Actually, the way our system is set up is to give "land" a vote.
That way you can't just have some shithole jam pack itself with brownoids to harvest ballots from and make everywhere else shitty.

>>513234862
>California could shift far more seats than that if they really wanted to.
They absolutely could; the population density in cities is so high in California they could literally delete the republican party from the state if wanted they could redistrict the rural red area's to include parts of the cities and republicans wouldn't stand a chance. The republicans are ABSOLUTELY on the losing end of this fight because of how much land is in America and how much of its population is centered in cities.

>>513235336
I'm just a guy who hates bullshit.
I also believe in direct democracy, and think officials should only be for emergencies, and they shouldn't impose any acts that last longer than their term.
But then again jews can brainwash people with propaganda. We're screwed no matter what.

>>513223504 (OP)
All blue states should follow.
Fuck all the rural retards to death with gerrymandering.

>>513223504 (OP)
>California legislature proposes a new map that would eliminate 5 GOP seats. Negating Texas gerrymandered map.
first, libshits look for any reason to gerrymander.
second, libshits will lose more due to the illegal-free federal census.
you lost.
you'll keep losing.

>>513235556
Aren't those the overtly gay triplets?
This author is HELLA gay.

>>513235611
>All blue states should follow.
all blue states are already maximally gerrymandered, lol.

>>513235556
The good news is most left leaning people are just as ill informed and dumb as you are.

Remember the time they ran on " The economy is great, you are just to stupid to realize it"?

Low info and truly stupid voters are the only thing keeping the democrats on life support.

>>513235668
Evidently not, since the OP indicates that CA can gerrymander more. Please don't reproduce.

>>513235606
Do you really want to vote everyone they need to name a post office.

Supporters of direct democracy aren't aware of what they are advocating.

>>513232885
Republicans would never win again if you got rid of gerrymandering

>>513235883
City council.

>>513235887
How many State Trifectas do Republicans have?
How many do dems have?
Republicans will be fine without gerrymandering.

>>513236008
So do you want direct democracy or representative democracy?
You are sending mixed messages.

>>513235771
what is the republican portion of massachusetts?
>about 32% based on the number of votes that republican candidates got in the 2024 election
how many republican representatives does massachusetts have?
>0
libshits are big mad that republicans no longer care about maintaining appearances.
the censure is going to fuck you bigly.

>>513236022
this is a losing attitude.
libshits have shown us what they do when they hold power.
we need to ensure they never get power again.

>>513236022
Republicans almost always lose the popular vote in every single election everywhere in the united states. The system would collapse if you turned it into a real democracy.
Maybe republicans would be fine right now if you got rid of gerrymandering because all the red states are gerrymandered to hell and democrats haven't gerrymandered as hard as they could looking at California who could squeeze more juice. Democrats put less effort into this because they have some idea of morality or something. Republicans do whatever is legal or illegal if you look trump. Then again gerrymandering will never go away because republicans need to win every now and then and the democrats are cucks

>>513236276
>and democrats haven't gerrymandered as hard as they could
wrong.
california has gerrymandered as long as they felt they could get away with it.
now, they no longer care.
other libshit states have never cared and therefore cannot do any more gerrymandering.
see >>513236160

>>513236160
>all blue states are already maximally gerrymandered
This is your claim.
OP indicates that CA can be gerrymandered more and I don't know if you knew this but CA is considered a blue state thus your claim is retarded.

>>513236221
The best thing Republicans can do to assist in the death of the dem party is to stay out of the way.
Don't do anything to unify them and let the AOC and Fetterman wings rip each other apart.

Dems are doing the heavy lifting in their own demise.

>>513223504 (OP)
So this is the democracy I've heard so much about?

>>513224110
>>513233637
Republicans do it more.
It should be illegal for either group to do it. People should be hanged over this bullshit.

>>513236439
shhhh.
adults are talking.
my point is that republicans are finally adopting gerrymandering as libshits have the whole time
and they're mad about it.
show me another blue state that even CAN gerrymander more than they already have been or shut the fuck up forever...

>>513236384
Democrats own less states therefore they gerrymander less. They're also less ruthless with using power

>>513236601
wow.
that's amazing.
nearly everything you typed was wrong.
it's like a ragebait post or something.

>>513236561
How do you make it illegal? Everyone votes on all reps, no districts?

>>513228994
Every state should just be like nebraska. Do a straight popular vote and allot seats based on proportion of the vote. Get rid of districts completely.

>>513236601
This guy rejects per capita arguments

>>513236591
>>513236591
>my point is that republicans are finally adopting gerrymandering as libshits have the whole time
Then why didn't you lead with that, instead of a clearly incorrect statement?

>>513236591
Illinois and New York can easily gerrymander more there is literally nothing stopping them and they have far far more population centers then anything the republicans can gerrymander.

>>513223560
Real

>>513236754
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>IM INCAPABLE OF UNDERSTANDING HYPERBOLE
>YOU HAVE TO STATE THINGS EXACTLY CORRECT OR I WON'T BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE CONVERSATION!!!
the kiddy table is at plebbit.

>>513236601
They aren't less ruthless. They are incompetent.
They would be twice as ruthless if they could.
It is all that diversity and female leadership holding them back.

>>513236689
You can't do that because then republicans will lose elections 80% of the time with more direct democracy.
Trump won the popular vote but that's rare.

>All of this complaining year after year from republicans gerrymandering
>By any meaningful metric they're gerrymandered less than 1/2 as much as democrats
wtf, they literally have to make up new metrics in new york times articles instead of looking at the vote percentages, why did they insist for the past few decades it was republicans doing all of this?
>Heh, well we can use our high population density in the cities to make sure that the whole state is blue!
So the end goal of democracy is just to make it so as many people as possible are ruled by people who they didn't vote for?

>>513235887
Incorrect. If gerrymandering was outlawed, Republicans would gain seats.

>>513236770
>th th these places can be gerrymandered more
new york has 7 republicans
illinois has 3
so 5 + 7 + 3 = 15 total seats, but those seats are in california, new york, and illinois, so they're fucking lost causes anyway.
how many seats will the libshits lose due to the new census?
i'd wager more than that.
they should all gerrymander as much as possible.
i wonder how many seats republicans can gain from this?

>>513236670
By setting up a non-partisan district board that has huge incentives to avoid corruption or punishments (death) for abiding corruption.

Pay them so well to do their job that they have no need to be paid off. Disallow them from taking part in any political activities, possibly including not being able to vote in elections. The pay should be so high they don't care about any of that. Taking extremely good care of people is one of the best defenses against corruption.

Elected officials should have zero say in how lines are drawn.

>>513236933
Meanwhile "scientists" when you let them make up numbers
>Texas with an 8 point difference?
F
>California with a 20 point difference?
B
It's all just completely meaningless slop not based on the votes at all, it was literally activist groups lying about republican gerrymandering.

>>513236920
I don't believe you.

>>513237186
>non-partisan district board
>huge incentives
>Pay them so well to do their job that they have no need to be paid off
The stench of onions is immense
>Elected officials should have zero say in how lines are drawn.
The purpose of elected officials is to carry out the will of the people voting for them

>>513236770
There are two mindsets when doing an aggressive gerrymandering.
1 Minimize the opponents power by making super partisan districts. This is the safe mindset.
2 Maximize your potential gains by carving up the districts to give yourself a fighting chance everywhere.

The latter was the dems preferred method until Obama. His staggering losses across every level of Government for the dems made the former method much more popular.

With as bad as things are looking for dems they should be very risk averse right now.

>>513236112
As direct as possible.

>>513237189
they gave fucking massachusetts an 'A'...
holy shit, that's my go-to example of gerrymandering.
nearly a third of massachusetts are republicans and they have zero representation.

>>513236689
So you are consigned to a two party system?
You have no room in your heart for independent candidates?
How does that boot taste?

>>513237189
>>513237319
Let me guess, Illinois got an F because it could still be gerrymandered more for the dems.

>>513224485
The false premise of yours that the red team did it first thereby giving casus belli for the blue team to now do it, your implication being that it wasnt happening before, whereas it just never made national news when blue team did it

>>513228791
>Ich fought on the right side, but all ich got was an unmarked grave

>>513237309
So representative govt it is.

>>513237443
Retard, my way gives more ability for independents to gain seats than whatever this shit is. You get a few percent of the vote and you'll get at least one seat. That shit doesn't happen now. Unless you're admitting your policies are so shit you won't have a chance when left up to the whole state?

>>513223504 (OP)
Yes, push those California republicunts into the tiniest nugget districts possible The Texas Way!
Yeeeeee Hawwwwww!
Also:
Bye Darrell! So long!

>>513223504 (OP)
>40% of the state vote
><10% of seats
And they pretend that only republicans gerrymander.
>>513223604
brown nigger

>>513228064
Someone on reddit drew a map that eliminated all republican districts. Tts based on 2020 election data (a stronger year for democrats) but it shows that it is possible.

>>513237508
Lel, that would be a funny one
>The new map retains 3 heavily Black districts, although they are less so than the previous map. While Rep. Bobby Rush (D, IL-1) keeps a 52% Black Southside Chicago seat, Reps. Robin Kelly (D, IL-2) and Danny Davis (IL-7) see their districts drop to under 50% Black by composition. Though Democratic gerrymandering likely precipitated this, it may have been hard to sustain 3 firmly Black-majority seats anyway — with the state losing a district, those seats would have had to pick up population in new areas.
>Perhaps the most notable change in Chicagoland, though, was the creation of a new Hispanic-influence seat.
Democrats were basically treating nonwhites like pokemon trading cards and making new districts for them while trying to maintain race majority in as many districts as they could, and they put a few massive blue scars right down the center of deep red areas.
Could they do more? Probably if they gave up some token niggers.

>>513236561
>i will always cheer for commie leftists and never hold them to any standards
why are normietards, like you, like this?

>>513237821
California is going to lose half its representation in the next census.

>>513223504 (OP)
Why are there so many DNC shill posts in this shithole? Do Democrats really believe that 4chan decides elections? Seems like a waste of what is left of their funds.

>>513224151
There is a total of 9 republicunt California seats up for the taking Cletus. Shit gonna git ugly God Gavin we'll need to do a little revision. There's time.

>>513237602
Your way gives cities all the power to decide representation.
All the yokels in the sticks will get their 5% while the cities get their 20%.

This is dumber than ranked choice voting. That is fucking retarded as hell so that should tell you how bad your idea is.

>>513237821
They honestly should do it, the current state of california right now is supported by the people - and even schwartzenegger says it's better that they have an independent commission do it. Therefore they should push forward the most aggressive map they can for no real reason (republicans will just respond in kind) but just making everyone mad.
Basically no one in california actually wants redistricting now because it's all done by some independent commission they think is objective, but it would be really funny if they just went full retard.

>>513236838
Fallacious arguments are never taken seriously.

>>513224227
Ok. You take the people2haj, we'll take the land.

Democrats should be able to counter all the republican electoral chicanery. And then there's Trump's horrific policies and inflation to win on. It couldn't be worse for the working man nowadays. Blue wave incoming faggots.

>>513237931
What else can they do? They would probably love to spread the dem message far and wide. Sadly , for them, nobody has any idea what that message is. They have defaulted to "Orange Man Bad" until they get new programming.

>>513236510
its a shame that both the GQP and the Democrats cant both lose

>>513238175
Why is the demand party losing so bad on the new voter registration and fundraising fronts so badly if there is an incoming blue wave?

>>513238335
I will settle for the dems going the way of the WHIG. They have lost their way and need to go.

>>513238238
Keep telling yourself that Cletus. Millions are losing ACA health coverage December 31. Maybe they won't notice? Or care? Maga? Awoo? And then the inflation. You're fucked. Lmao

>>513238402
Why are you not proving it?

>>513223504 (OP)
There are still reds in Cali? What possesses you to live in that shithole?

>>513236689
No that's shit, there's a reason the popular vote isn't the deciding factor. As shitty as gerrymandering is, straight democracy like that is just the media telling the majority what to believe and then that will being exacted on everyone. Imagine how much worse situations like the plandemic would have been if everything was just the will of the majority. Red states were safe havens at the time because they had self-determination and California cities couldn't just tell them what to do.

>>513224014
shut the fuck up german arent you too busy getting railed by migrant black dicks in your commine country? I stay the fuck out of American threads, you dont see me going into fucking REIGHLAND threads shitting it up with views.

>>513238491
The Republigroids need to go first, i am sick and tired of these kike gatekeepers

Just setup OH, PA, VA, and GA to all be red forever and dems never win another election.

>>513223504 (OP)
Don't GIVE A FUCK I'm DRUNK AND I'MMA CUM TO SOME FUTA TONIGHT LOL

>>513238599
The Federal Election Committee does monthly reports on fundraising for all registered political party's. That shows the dems are seriously hurting for cash.
The voter registration by party are a matter of public record in every State.

I am saying things are true because they are true. Deal with it as you see fit.

>>513238721
Looks like I will get my wish first.
The demo are bleeding support across nearly every demographic but the progressice wing is currently purging those that don't support Maamdani in NY. They are literally to stupid to survive.

>>513239312
Source: You and Your crack pipe. Lmao.

You're still not refuting Trump's horrific policies and the rampant tariff induced inflation. How do you think you're going to win on that shit? Texas wouldn't need to go apeshit gerrymandering if it all was well. You must be a neet and mommy is buying you your steaks.

Democrats have already lost the redistricting fight.

>>513239513
Republicans are literally redistricting Texas so they dont get destroyed in the midterms both parties probably know and understand that people have stopped giving a shit about voting

>>513238491
Trump won on inflation nigger. Now he is the inflation fucking king, you're not winning on that.

>>513237863
>That 13
Holy shit, east st louis, springfield, decatur, champaign and danville in one district? Not gonna lie, that kind of seems like a republican gerrymander if I'm being honest. Still looks sus.

>>513239886
Why can they redraw and others can't?

>>513237982
Wow, that's totally different from chicongo controlling every single election like what already happens. You're fucking dumb.

>>513239886
This assumes equal political and mathematical competency from each side, which isn't the case. Democrats would destroy Republicans.

>>513239858
> Other than the proof you provided you provided no proof.
Well you aren't wrong.

The good news is most dems are like you and would rather "win" a random argument online than actually try to unfuck their party.

>>513223504 (OP)
So democrats do this for every state they control multiple times. FL and TX undo their retarded district lines and make them logical. CA responds by doing it even more because how dare Rs undo Ds dirty play.

Par.

>>513223504 (OP)
hopefully they go full retard and trigger a constitutional question that can fuck over gerrymandering once and for all

>>513238680
Yeah, you're right. It's much better when faceless bureaucrats decide how we can vote behind closed doors. The only fags who are against democracy are the ones assuming women will be allowed to take part in it. Let only land owning whites vote like our forefathers intended.

>>513239920
>>513239971
How much cash on hand does the RNC have?
How about the DNC?
The typical burn rate of cash in a midterm year is a mill a day.
Dems are fucked.

>>513223504 (OP)
Will not pass the vote

>>513238025
lmao
Imagine, civil war lines based on gerrymandered congressional districts

its funny to me that you can just permanently lose all political representation (if you even had any to begin with) on the whim of a politician in your state with no recourse or compensation.
>it aint the best system, but its the best one we have!
you literally live under a dictatorship of your enemies unless you live in a swing district/state where there is a slim chance you could get representation.

>>513239886
Newsome will go for the jugular and grab all 9 Cali Republicunt seats.

>>513240917
That would be impossible tbe 4 rep seats are all safe it would be a dummymander

>>513238552
>Millions are losing ACA health coverage December 31
imagine thinking obamacare was good...

>>513224227
Are you blind or just retarded?

>>513240317
Ads will convince everybody broke they're not fucked.
You need to contribute more buddy, go out and buy some Trump steaks.

>>513240697
Republicans only win elections by gerrymandering and now their federal overreach and general cuntishness has forced democrats to play dirty too. There is no sense being honorable towards those who time and time again have only shown themselves to be dishonest dishonorable cretins.

>>513241062
So my taxes won't be going to subsidize medical care for darkies anymore?
Not seeing the downside.

>>513241380
>has forced democrats to play dirty too.
holy shit, you're retarded.
thank god libshits are losing power.

>>513241380
>In 2022 republicans got 51% of the seats with 50% of the vote, while democrats got 49% of the seats with 47% of the vote. in 2024 it was even more unfair where republicans got 50.5% of the seats for 49.8% of the vote while democrats got 49.5% of the seats for again only 47% of the vote. Democrats on average are getting more seats for votes.
nope

>>513241062
Imagine being on it and losing it Cletus.

>>513241376
We have seen dems struggle even when they have a huge cash advantage.
Now that they are struggling to find donors they are fucked.

Couldn't happen to better people.

>>513241033
Same with Texas if they go for more than 5.

>>513224227
The Land absolutely votes in the USA, sorry Janis. The Democrats wouldn't constantly seeth about the Electoral College, the Senate or SCOTUS otherwise.

>>513241540
Other countries already work like that, you dumb nigger. If you can't pay, they send you away to die. Don't act like that ever happens here or ever will.

>>513223504 (OP)
Fuck this shit vote NO

>>513241380
How many States have a Republican trifecta?
> Well the Republicans usually lose the popular vote.
True but so what?

>>513241540
i am so fucking glad that the retards that were still on the sinking ship are going to die.
truly the most retarded, and fattest, members of society.
america is healing.

>>513224679
A MEXICAN JUST STOLE MY HOME, MY JOB AND MY WHITR GF!!!

>>513227226
god damn youre dumb

>>513241551
I'll donate you a sharpie in your time of need.

>>513237295
except elected officials DON'T carry out the will of people voting for them. They carry out the will of their PARTY and of Israel, almost exclusively.

Part of why they should have no say in where the lines go because they will ALWAYS just try to benefit their party with no regards for any citizens that aren't of their party.

This is part of why political parties and lobbying should both be illegal. A fucking 10 year old can realize how obviously corrupt and bad the systems we have are. They just do their best to keep people just comfortable enough that no one will get off their ass and actually challenge them.

>>513237945
Weinstein fucked this cucks wife LMFAO. Anyway let's just get to it and fight each other already

>>513223504 (OP)
>California Gov. Gavin Newsom is promising a referendum in November to gerrymander five more Democratic House seats on top of the 43 of 52 they already have in the state. Even if it works, his victory may be short-lived. The real problem for Democrats is that progressive policies are driving population flight, which on current trend could cost their states 10 House seats after 2030.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-real-house-democratic-nightmare-3002f098

>>513223504 (OP)
God I hate California every single failed major city especially SF always scapegoats the secret billionaire republicans for all the failures and those random red areas of the state. Maybe this might make them shut the fuck up

>>513241721
If you're proposing to ban parties, fine, but over a hundred million Americans voluntarily belong to one.

>>513241721
>This is part of why political parties and lobbying should both be illegal.
Fair enough, agreed

>>513241720
Sell it and give the money to the DNC. Those bitches are broke.

>>513241772
also, this.
>hey, look
>you gerrymandered your way to 100% libshit representation
>how did that work out for you?
lol

>>513241630
I'm sensing you're enraged because you know I'm right. And you also know it's a powerful campaign issue for the midterms. Lmao

>>513241728
Kek, in googling this, I found out california refers to the wife of their governor as "first partner". Haha, gaaaaay

>>513241935
How are you right? No hospital in america will deny you treatment in an emergency. Go to a place like the philippines and try that.

>>513241672
You mean like half the population of red states at a minimum? Lmao

>>513241746
Yeah, this was the bomb they're actually trying to counteract. Nobody wants to live in blue shitholes, and conservatives generally have higher birth rates. It's gonna be a 10-20+ swing to republicans after the next census.
Now add aggressive gerrymandering to this. Blue states are just gradually withering away because nobody wants to live in those shitholes, they're literally only surviving by illegal immigration.

>>513224227
Total retard.

>>513242026
Trump just hung medical debt back on everybody. Going to an ER is instant bankruptcy. Another midterms issue btw.

>>513242266
Ok, I'd rather be bankrupt than dead.

>>513242154
It's actually so over for democrats unless they find some way to change this before 2030, projected -9 for them and +8 for republicans, and I believe this is before gerrymandering.

>>513223504 (OP)
Good thing there is no pace with you. Now that you've been flatlined for months, there will never be 15 minute new L.A. either because of the hellscape making everyone else say Fuck That.

>>513223504 (OP)
oh no israeli child molesters might lose some seats to the israeli child molesters.

>>513241728
>>513241982
Trump’s son also cucked him. If Newsom wasn’t a governor he’d be the poster child of JUST

>>513233956
this is why california took forever counting the votes during the predidential election

Never Forget What Happened In Maui - Aug 16, 2025
https://banned.video/watch?id=68a0aa151a4f3e40af2fb8cf


https://banned.video/watch?id=65030ffa0aa7cbcccaaf405d
https://banned.video/results?query=maui
>>513242736

>>513242266
They literally can say fuck off if you don’t have insurance. There is no legal obligation to treat patients.

>>513223504 (OP)
I thought redistricting was a threat to democracy but I guess its cool

>>513243274
This is false. If you’re at a hospital and you have an emergency medical condition, they MUST treat you no question. Billing comes later. Do you actually think there’s somebody sitting in the ER asking the unconscious stroke victim if they have insurance?

>>513224014
Arabs fought for Hitler you stupid fuck.

I'm telling you just separate them from the Union and send in the actual Army to reconquer them.

>>513237945
>God Gavin
Who the fuck says shit like this and then turns around and claims Trump supporters are the cult figures? O yeah, low iq lunatics

>>513243422
Lawyers reduce the cost a lot and a ton of people don't sue when they can win, that's the issue.

>>513243422
Yeah, I’ve seen it happen several times in the last year alone. Often times my work just lets them sit there until they realize they’re not getting treatment, dude. You retards are super naive about what society is supposed to be doing for people. We live in a shitscape, bro, and you keep voting to make it worse.

>>513238175
>And then there's Trump's horrific policies and inflation to win on
What's it like living in your fantasy land? Seems mentally and physically exhausting

>>513243726
Yeah cuz raising the prices on literally everything via tariffs is such a smart way to help people who are struggling to keep up right now. Bessent just shit himself this week in some softball interview because he could not tell the interviewer that the White House has been desperately calling companies for weeks BEGGING them not to raise prices.

>>513244052
people are struggling without the tariffs so not having tariffs also led to the bad thing you listed

>>513243659
is
>your work
a hospital emergency room? If it’s not your personal experience is irrelevant. If it is you should prepare your anus for the legal fuckening of a lifetime

>>513223504 (OP)
It's ok because Texas is doing the same thing

>>513244275
It’s not my call to make. Life isn’t an episode of Chicago Med. The fuck is a tech supposed to do?

>>513241982
>>513243080
I mention it in every Newsom thread, it's important information and it's fucking hilarious.

>>513224151
That's a dummymander. They'd make safe red seats competitive, please do it

>>513227510
That would be the current GOP.

>>513243726
I don't know what you're on about faggot every fucking single thing I buy costs more now. It's impossible to substitute anything else. It's you fucking maga cocksuckers in a fantasy world.

Niggers already had a super majority, what does this accomplish exactly?
Isn't gonna flip the house in their favor so is it just petulant spite cause "muh orangemanbad shat on my press conference"

>>513228791
Totally gay.

>>513229354
He won 49.8% to Harris 48.3%. That’s only a 1.5% advantage.

>>513224485
Dems are going to get raped in new jersey because of the energy crisis there. So reds pressed the advantage.

>>513234736
CA-02 was already doing that, this just min-maxes the effect to disenfranchise more voters.

>>513223641
This. I hate them so much. KOSA, cutting Medicaid and food stamps, internet ID and a return to the christcuck moral panic of the 80s to ban media and pornography is all they bring.

>>513245262
Get a real job you fucking loser, I have no problem paying my bills or groceries and I live in one of the highest cost of living states in the nation

>>513245262
>hurr durr I live in a high cost of living state!
So what
Kys. Nobody likes paying more for shit faggot. Certainly the voters don't as we found out in the last election. Also, I own two paid off houses with no mortgage top me. One is a vacation home I don't even live in.

>>513232885
They have done their damndest to make it seem like "Gerrymandering" is some kind of taboo, bad thing politicians do to cheat the system. It just means redrawing district maps. When my father was a kid he lived in a certain neighborhood. It was all white, old names if not old money. Now it's the worst neighborhood in the county with project housing and shootings out the ass. It was bright red, not deep blue. Every so often political voting maps are redrawn to recognize these kind of realities.

democrats have been gerrymandering for a long time and have been getting away with it because the republican party is a subverted small hat party and gets endorsements for turning a blind eye

>>513224303
You do realize the reason this is happening is because the TX Republicans finally decided to start playing the same gerrymandering game the democrats have been playing for ever.

>>513249764
republicans are constantly taking the back seat till shit gets out of hand.

>>513223504 (OP)
Wow spending money they don't have on stupid shit, again.

>>513236276
>Republicans almost always lose the popular vote in every single election everywhere in the united states.

You are absurdly wrong on this anon. Republicans won the vote for the house in 2024, 2022, 2016, 2014, 2010, 2004, 2002, 2000

https://ballotpedia.org/Proportion_of_each_party%27s_national_U.S._House_vote_and_share_of_seats_won_in_U.S._House_of_Representatives_elections

>>513223560
Kike faggpt

>>513241721
Giga truth nuke. Congress is unpopular because it literally is all gerrymandered bullshit that doesn't actually represent anyone.

>>513242154
This is literally just an affordability map. Once Florida is basically 100% boomers with crumbling infrastructure, the ponzi will move to some other state. This shit is basically musical chairs. It's hilarious how much of a rat race to the bottom our society really is.

>>513223504 (OP)
Trump needs to stop this asap.

>>513223504 (OP)
How is it Democrapcy if you can goddamn change the rules?

The US is a Republic, democracy is just elite controlled mob rule.

>>513236561
>Republicans do it more.
Demonstrably false

>>513224227
Sure but urbanites are 1/10th a person at best

>>513224227
This argument is like saying the 300 pound tumor has more say on the person's health than the rest of the body. Parasites don't get a say.