Thread 513229269

Ahaha, he has always been putin's bitch

>>513229347
Or hes thinking reasonably

>>513229269 (OP)
He's going to make them give up land they haven't even taken yet. Oh well. On to the next potential mega death war. Borders shifted this way or that. The spoon isn't real, and all that.

>>513229269 (OP)
>Territory Ukraine Controls
What an odd way to phrase it. What language do the inhabitants of this territory speak? What national identity do they have?

Ukraine is losing and has continued to lose. Just the way it is. Putin has the upper hand. If only we didn't systematically dismantle our ammo/weapons supply chains over decades and refuse to rebuild them.

>>513229482
>"Putin could have taken Kiev in 4 hours, it's just that the generals were too dumb to use roads"
>"Dude, Ukraine should totally give up their best defensive positions that they are building ever since 2014 in exchange of nothing! If they don't, it's their fault if we kill ppl"

>>513229523
Wow, wait a moment... that means UK should reclaim the US?

>>513229269 (OP)
>now favors
When was that ever not Trump's default position? He wanted to gift land to Russia even during his first term. He probably even wanted to gift land to Russia back when he was fucking children with Epstein.

>>513229269 (OP)
Cede land? Whatever happened to land swap?
I CAN DO BETTER FOREIGN RELATIONS THAN THESE FUCKING CRETINS!

>>513229619
Ukraine lost and has to accept that

>>513230345
If Ukraine lost, why is Russia using Trump as their bottom bitch instead of directly taking control of the country?

>>513229269 (OP)
Cool. The Baltics and the South Caucasus are next.

>>513230345
Russia can't even take Pokrovsk

>>513229619
Either they give the land now or more people will die and the land will be taken later anyways, there is no path to victory for Ukraine here only various shades of defeat

>>513229523
What national identity do the inhabitants of Karelia, Chechnya and the Far East have? Should Russia release them?

>>513229523
Only a russnigger with a VPN would conflate language with nationality

>>513231445
Then why is Putin making those demands and using Trump as his bitch if he can take it later anyways?

we dont live in a capeshit universe

>>513229269 (OP)
peace is imminent whether Europe likes it or not. Well done President Trump!

>>513229347
Also a pedo that either worships Jews or is one himself. Pretty sure he's an actual Jew.

>>513232828
I think the fact that he's sucking Putin's like no tomorrow is comings from his kikes handlers: they are the same kikes that own Russia.
It's in their plan to genocide european people.
Notice how Israel and Russia always support each others also.

>>513229347
This he’s also owned by jews and won’t release the Epstein files

>>513229269 (OP)
If Russia gets the full 4 oblasts it will be an almost total Russian victory

>>513229619
Kiev has nothing to do with anything. The land Russia now occupies is gone. Ukraine is never getting it back. That's just the reality of the situation. Ceding it formally is just recognizing something that has already been done.

>>513232273
That exactly why he's making the demands retard. Of course Putin would rather get the land without more people dying even if he can take it by force.

>>513229269 (OP)

How you muricans can handle your continous and repeating embarrasments? Do you really have some copium gas to sniff all days?

>>513233480
Both Putin and Trump suck Israel’s DICK too
He said he didn’t help Iran as much because Israel is full of ex-USSR russians and he’s tight with the Chabad jews

>>513229681
Those areas voted to join Russia
You know, democracy

Nooo. I want to see more beautiful, young women with lost legs and arms.

t. Zelensky

>>513229619
Ukraine lost the war. Losing means you give up territory and whatever else the winners (Russia) wants
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/14/ukraine-will-lose-britain-must-now-prepare/

>>513233689
I'm sure the vote was totally legit

>>513229347
You are such a good goy

>>513229619
Youre irrelevant to the negotiations in the first place. Youre not even at the table. Trump and Putin get to decide what happens to Ukraine and all you get to do is bitch and moan because thats all you can do.

American taxes funded the Ukrainian war effort for 2 years. Now they want Ukraine to cede land because a new guy is in charge. Politics is weird.

>>513230600
>why doesn’t Russia further destroy Ukraine tho?!!1!!
Okay. That’s option #2 you draft dodging coward

>>513233888
>see goy, if you don't agree with judeo bolchevism and genocide of europeans that means that you are a goy!!!

>>513229269 (OP)
That's what happens when you fight a war and lose.
The losing side loses stuff. The winning side gets the loser's stuff.
That is what happens in war.
This is a lesson to remember for everyone else thinking they might like to try war.

>>513234139
Says the jeet sucking a draft dodger president who won't release the epstein files like the pedo he is

>>513234337
Ok but then why didn't he make those demande to Zelensky directly? Why does he need Trump to threaten him? It's almost like he's losing 24:1 for every inch of grass

>>513229681
If they thought they could do it, they would try it.
But they couldn't, so they don't.

>>513234411
Also, why stopping at Donetsk?

>>513234461
And you see, that's the same thing with russia and ukraine also a bit different: Russia's main ethnie is now majority churkas and muslims and they barely speak russian

>>513229269 (OP)
There's a pic from yesterday of Trump pointing his finger at Putin, like Roth pointing at King Fag.
Here's another one.

>>513229269 (OP)
Ukraine doesn't have the manpower to beat Russia. Everyone knows this.

>>513233363
>Kiev

Excuse me, don't you mean, Keeve?

we get your land. you get peace. art of the deal.

>>513234551
Russia is also the country with the largest white population.

>>513229347
>projecting my childish insecure mentality onto world leaders will alter reality somehow!! RELEASE THE FILES NOW!!!1!
Sir, I do believe that you are in fact
BROWN CODED!!
Get help.

>>513229523
LMAO nafo trannies coping hard from this brutal truke

>>513234411
Because America rules the entire planet. Do you think nosuit Zelenskyy is as powerful as Donald Trump?

>>513234314
You don’t have a choice either way, Europe is a retirement home and America dragged you into this conflict because you are a vassal state.
>but Russia isn’t based bro
Well if you enjoy your American enslavement, by all means support the war.

>>513234411
because Ukrainian Army collapses in 2-3 weeks after USA cuts support
this is a proxy war you dumb nigger, Ukraine isn’t waging it using their own resources (besides manpower)

>>513229269 (OP)
He just knows that Ukraine will lose much more if war continues and europeans are just gamblers on tilt who hope to win back with a lucky card.

>>513234623
Idk if slavs are whites but russia is currently genociding them. That's why Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia.
>>513234656
stfu you vile jeet. Gtfo from Ireland you disgusting shitskin
>>513234738
But why would Putin need Trump if he already won?
>>513234778
>"See goy you have no choice!!! stop fighting!!! after all we already destroyed your nations from the inside!"
and I'm the good goy?
>>513234804
Why would the US cut the support (that is highly beneficial for them)?
Why would Trump bows to Putin if it's a proxy war and not a war of survival between a european nation and judeo bolchevism?

>>513234888
>w-we are actually trying to save lives in this war that we started and cost a million of souls
You disgusting rat

A nation should only exist as long as it can defend itself. Canada should be, de facto a United States vassal, and it's resources should be freely harvested for American interests as a form of payment for the protection they provide.

>>513235100
>and it's resources
kys jeet

>>513235100
Ziggers actually believe this. They haven't realized yet they're China's vassal state

>>513233846
Easily more legitimate than the paragons of EU 'democracy' such as Romania (results overturned, winner banned ) or Ukraine (no elections) or France (leader of the most popular party banned)

>>513235141
oui oui

>>513229482
Explain how is that reasonably?

>>513234970
Anon, being jealous of BIG ASHKENAZI IQ is simply leftist and gay.
This worship of inferiority will get you nowhere positive.
The messianic age is very near, don’t be on the wrong side of G-d’s chosen people of the holy book when it finally arrives.
Bless them and be blessed!
Am Yisrael chai forever!

DON’T BE A BROWN CODED LOSER!!

>>513229269 (OP)
It is rather reasonably expectation considering the frontlines.
Ukraine can remain intact only if Russia collapses in one way or another.
They won't collapse militarily so the only option is to destroy them economically but that has not been very fruitful so far.

>>513235285

If they refuse to give up the land Russia currently occupies then they'll just keep taking more and more land which the hohols will never be able to retake.

Do they cut off a hand to save the arm or do they lose the entire arm out of empty pride?

>>513229269 (OP)
So where just going back to the concession shit again, huh? It was a non-starter the first time so I don't know how he expects it to work the second.

>>513235481
Explain how giving up land now will prevent future landgrabs?

>>513235481
>they'll just keep taking more and more land
But they aren't taking more and more lands. The front line hasn't moved. In fact you fuck shilled spammed this board for 3 days about a collapse because Monkey ordered a massive slaughtering of his soldiers to make it seems like he was winning right before the meeting with Trump.

>>513234362
Actually it was Zelensky who dodged the draft 3 times
Faggot

>>513229347
In your worldview anyone that doesn't want to send the entire population of Ukraine to die is Putin's bitch.

>>513235679
>send the entire population of Ukraine to die
24:1
You should be more concerned about russia's population
Also being part of judeo bolchevik shithole means a slow death anyway

>>513234970
>and I'm the good goy?
Yes, there is no more powerful metric for Europeans than their opinion on the Ukrainian war. There is no third option, if you support Ukraine you support Europe in its modern state as a subject of the American empire. Sorry, no amount of saying Russia are mongoloid third worlders will change this. You can go ask however many members of Azov are alive still how well the position has gone for them.

>>513235753
Then surely Ukraine and USA will want this war to continue, right? Why are they begging Putin for peace?

>>513235753
>You should be more concerned about russia's population
Is this the part where you pretend like Ukraine refusing to disclose its casualties somehow means they've lost fewer people?

>>513233480
I miss the old USA, get up and go USA
That old tear down the walls and build the bridges USA
I hate the new USA, the rude USA, the always spazzing in the news USA, got the tariffs blues USA
I miss the sweet USA, the hand you a treat USA, make sure your country don't starve and we don't see defeat USA
I used to love USA wore the stars and stripes polo USA
Thought I was Uncle Sam with a bomb and a plan USA
What if the USA made a song named I Miss The Old USA
And I love you like America loves America

>>513235821
>>513235775
>"see goy, if you are against the BRICS shitskin antifascist super power alliance that wants to topple "white supremacy", that makes you a supporter of the current UE commission".
>>513235821
Only Trump is begging for peace. Ukrainians already know that judeo bolcheviks will never accept any peace. They started this shit in the first place.
>>513235829
Is this the part where you pretend that russia importing 1 million jeet was a hoax?

>>513235627
Land is just the price they have to pay for losing, what prevents another war is resolving the fundamental causes for the war, which means regime change (elections) in Ukraine, demilitarization, no NATO troops or bases, and a guarantee of Ukrainian neutrality, most likely along the Austrian model. That doesn't mean a promise from Zelensky, that means the US comes out and puts all that down on paper and announces to everyone that Ukraine will never be part of NATO. After the fighting that will mean a rewriting of the Ukrainian constitution, too, which will probably take years of further negotiation between the US and Russia.

>>513236067
Lol also NHH

>>513229347
The front is still open. What are you doing here then, are you a Putin's bitch too?

>>513236127
>>"see goy, if you are against the BRICS shitskin antifascist super power alliance that wants to topple "white supremacy", that makes you a supporter of the current UE commission".
Literally yes, you support and want to be the meatshield for the people who hate you and want to see you replaced and enslaved by shitskins
>Only Trump is begging for peace. Ukrainians already know that judeo bolcheviks will never accept any peace. They started this shit in the first place.
Ukrainians have been begging for a ceasefire for a year lmao. Why would they do that with a 1 to 24 ratio?

>>513236168
Ok now i know your are a retarded Russian shill. It's unbelievable that people here have bought this beyond retarded nonsense hook line and sinker.

>>513236283
Could say the same about you ngubu. Russia even offers you the citizenship! Oh wait you are a coward who'd rather parasite white countries and rape the girls there!

>>513236127
>he’s still crying about BRICS
You’re like a woman in an abusive relationship lol, no wonder you guys are just irrelevant in the world stage now. America and China are playing a grand chess game and you’re still doing the Aryan vs Mongoloid larp in spandex still

>>513236285
>Literally yes
Ah, even NZ is parasited by jeets
>>513236354
>Nooo, don't criticize my super shitskin BRICS alliance! Russia and India SUPERPOWER!!! It's over whitey!!!

>>513229681
UK is a fucking backwater, it is less significant than France these days

>>513229269 (OP)
He never said that and it isn't good enough for Russia anyway
The american puppet government needs to go. That's what the war is about.

>>513236401
This is who you support and want young white children to die for

>>513236479
Learn to read english jeet. I said that I wasn't pro EU you fucking retard. I specifically pointed your false dichotomy. aka "if you aren't pro BRICS super anti facist communist alliance, then you are for EU TRANNY USA BIDEN DEMOCRATS"
Stupid jeet

>>513236327
>n-no you!
I'm not the one bitching about ending the war, retard. You will never go to the front because you're coward barking from your phone or PC about muh ruZZians, I won't go because it's literally not my problem

>>513236401
>he’s just crying now
As I said, all pro-Ukraine Europeans are the exact definition of goys completely indistinguishable from Americans cheering on war with Iran. On /pol/ they can pretend they’re based race warriors fighting the third world tide, that isn’t censored by the EU of course curiously enough. If that gives you pleasure in your century+ of humiliation, so be it.

>>513236566
In a war there you must pick a side
Whose side are you on?

>>513229269 (OP)
Those are Russian supporting oblasts anyways. (((Zelenskyy))) should just accept and move on

>>513236672
>I'm not the one bitching about ending the war, retard
No shit, I know that you love seeing european getting killed
>You will never go to the front because you're coward barking from your phone or PC about muh ruZZians
And yet it's your problem enough to come into that thread, voice your opinion and whine that people criticize super powerful brics shitskin country? Fucking nog. Gtfo from Italia

>>513236566
Your personal opinion doesn't matter, you are doing the bidding of EU elites, and therefore you are actively supporting the implementation of EU plan on Europe.
>I specifically pointed your false dichotomy.
It is not a false dichotomy, if you do the bidding of a group, you support their actions and you empower them. Even if i accepted that you indeed do not support EU in general (most likely you do, 95% chance you are some reditor libshit larping as right winger here, as most hohol supporters are), that would make you a collaborator, which is even worse than being a active participant.

>>513229589
pootin ain’t winning anymore. There was supposed to be a massive assault in Zaporizhzhia by Chechens but it got completely dismantled. Sumy axis is a catastrophe, and Pokrovsk is not going in Russia’s favor at the moment.

>>513229269 (OP)
Not gonna happen but orange kike is more than welcome to kiss Putin's ass even more. Won't save him from losing midterms tho.

>>513236787
>No shit, I know that you love seeing european getting killed
So you should be supporting Trump in his attempts to broker a peace, right?

>>513236322
Do you know why people keep calling you a tranny online whenever you open your mouth about Ukraine? It's not because they think you're literally one, it's because you're obsessed (tranny behaviour), you refuse to acknowledge reality (tranny behaviour), and you have a meltdown like you're doing now whenever somebody refuses to play pretend with you (tranny behaviour). Ukraine has lost the war and you will never be a woman. Getting mad about it isn't going to change either of those things.

>>513236285
They say welcoming migrants, no one is welcoming migrants anymore except other migrants or people being paid to do so. I cant imagine even the most liberal leftist welcoming new migrants anymore.

>>513229523
They’re Ukrainians and Russian-speaking Ukrainians
>b-bu-but*ACK*
Whatever rebbutal you provide, it would make it 100% justifiable for Mexico to annex half of your country.

>>513236733
>YOU MUST PICK A SIDE WHITEY!!! REEEE!!!!
>>513236797
>Your personal opinion doesn't matter,
More than yours at least stupid shitskin. I know everything works by caste by it's not still the case here.
>It is not a false dichotomy,
Yes it is you fucking shitskin. You think when germany and the soviets teamed up together it was the YOU EITHER A NAZI OR A POLE. You think when the US and the soviets teamed up it was YOU EITHER A COMMIE OR A NAZI
Stupid fucking shitskin
Btw Israel is supporting Russia. That makes you a mega jew.

>>513236882
The only way to have a peace is if NATO kicks russia out of ukraine, to their mongolian homeland.

>>513236127
>Is this the part where you pretend that russia importing 1 million jeet was a hoax?
What's that got to do with the fact Ukraine is terrified to release how many of its people have died? On a scale from 1-10 how asshurt are you going to be when you realize the point of depopulating Ukraine is to fill it with jeets and turks?

>>513229269 (OP)
See the amount of apes that don't see or understand what happened the other day in Alaska.
I will give you a hint, nuclear ice breakers and Strait of Malacca

>>513237102
>On a scale from 1-10 how asshurt are you going to be when you realize the point of depopulating Ukraine is to fill it with jeets and turks?
Why are you projecting like that? Rn, it's Russia which is importing million of shitskins. And they have been doing this before the war. That's one of many reasons why ukrainians don't want to be part of this shithole. Putin is literally rejoicing when he sees the number of migrants and muslim rising up.

>>513237012
Yes you must pick a side.
The side that is genociding France or the side that isnt and doesn't replace their own people.
In WW2 you had the allies and axis. If you let the allies win they genocide Europe.
So whose side are you on?

>24 pbtid
wew, i'm stopping here
>>513237300
then I pick the side that is not the one of Israel

>>513229347
If you think Trump is Putin’s bitch then you are a retard. Trump has sent over so many weapons — during his first and second term — that have probably killed tens of thousands of Russian soldiers.
Putin’s bitch would have ceased weapons shipments immediately (and not restart them) and also demanded that Russia gets what it it always asked for (Trump is asking for less).
>>513236127
>judeo bolcheviks
Retard, wake up…the USSR no longer exists. If anything, Jews are enacting their agenda more in France than in Russia. If you are really French, you should care more about that but I reckon that you are not French; you are a Little Russian.

>>513236285
I hope to God that pic related is fake.

>>513237300
> or the side that isnt and doesn't replace their own people.
>doesn’t replace their own people

>>513237012
>but whatabout this irrelevant scenario
typical leftist reditor behavior. If you carry water for a group, you are supporting that group even if you disagree with it. If you do groundwork for a faggot parade, even if you hate faggots, you support faggotry. In this case i would argue it is worse, because it would make you a collaborator selling your soul for money.
>>513237080
So you support the continuation of the war and total hohol genocide?

>>513236942
>posts retard propaganda because he can't think for himself
>*point that out*
>"SEEEETHESTRAAAANYTRANNYTREANNNY!UWILLNVRBEAWMN!TRNNY"

Lets break down your retarded points >>513236168

>price for losing
How have they lost exactly? Also weren't they going to lose in 2 weeks right?

>Elections in Ukraine
Literally against their constitution. Ofc you expect Zelensky to just ignore it, but he's not Trump.

>demilitarization
So you're genius plan to prevent Russia from invading after this magical peace agreement starts with de-arm the country that Russia has invaded twice in the last decade...?

>no NATO troops or bases
https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=are+there+nato+military+bases+in+ukraine

>Ukrainian neutrality
What the fuck does this even mean?

>Get it all on paper!
Pic related

>rewriting Ukrainian Constitution
Oh so the Ukrainian Constitution does matter then?

>>513236797
The only person in my neighborhood that displays a Ukrainian flag also has an “In this house, we believe”…Black Lives Matter, etc.

Only pozzed and NeoCon people support the Ukraine here.

>>513229269 (OP)
Questions like "when will you stop eating your own sperm" are just trolling, not even a question.

>>513237721
the reality is that Ukraine existence depends on 2 scenarios. Russia goodwill or Russia balkanization.

>>513237505
Correct. Do you pick the continuation of American dominance and Swedish disappearance or not?

>>513237959
>RU could destroy Ukraine at any second... They just don't.

>>513229347
imagine being zelensky's bitch

>>513229269 (OP)
>Demands ukraine cede land

They've already lost it and the people who live there wanted to secede anyway. If you think Ukraine is taking back Donbas or Crimea you're delusional.

>>513238103
Russia is destroying Ukraine right now, the only way for hohols to prevent it is to fullfil Russia conditions and get some goodwill from them.

>>513229347
>Putin's bitch
>Russia takes land
>Ukraine unable to get land back
>Europe unwillingly to commit troops to get land back
>Us also unwillingly to commit troops to get land back
>Euros start seething that US also doesn't want to get stuck in Ukrainian quagmire
>If NATO and Ukraine can't get the land back from the Russians, why would the Russians give it back?
Trumps just negotiating while looking at reality. They control that land and are not giving it back. Unless the US or European forces take it back he will be unwilling to concede it. Do you guys want peace or do you just want to waste money on another 100 years war?

>>513229269 (OP)
>weak man with small hands does weak man shit
who could've possibly seen this coming

>>513234475
because of the conditions of the deal. Why is it such a lost concept in europe to stick to your own words? Starting from the Minsk agreements all that EU says is literally just "to win the time, we are not really intend to do it"

>>513235285
Because ukraine lost

>>513229269 (OP)
Putin broke Ukraine, now he owns it.

>>513235285
>Explain how is that reasonable?
Because Ukraine doesn't have the military capability to retake the lost territory

>>513239037
They're still fighting and Britain is poised to swoop in and keep the war going.

Did they think Russia would have given it back?
1. Make peace
Or
2. Keep losing and letting people die for dumb shit
3. Go all in. Destroy Russia and live with what ever fallout comes with the destruction of a nuclear power.
They will get some icbms off. I doubt we stop them all

>>513233363
It's pretty much this and anything else is retarded. If they couldn't get it back with full support in 2023 they won't ever get it back now with far less of it and way less troops.

>>513230600
Putin wants to regain reputation. If he ruthlessly exterminated the remaining hohols now he wouldn't get the Nobel Peace Prize together with Trump.

>>513236479
The EU has to be dismantled completely. there is no other option

>>513230921
Two more hours.

>>513238226
>russia is winning so hard that putin is begging trump to hand him territory

>>513239121
So why should they weaken themselves while russia ready itself for another attack

>>513239217
it was not even Zelenskys land at the first place, he is a fucking comedian backed up by some reach jews and ultra-nationalists

>>513229269 (OP)
VAE VICTIS!

>>513239169
Russia doesn't have nukes. The eu should just nuke russia major cities and call trump and xi a bunch of pussies. This would also allow for cheap energy once the radioactivity settle down.

>>513230896
see, this is why we need to commit genocide against the Russians
we should demand Trump order the military to train for committing war crimes against Russian children, capturing them, castrating them, and releasing them
by castrating Russian children and keeping them alive, we quickly deprive Russia of the one thing it needs to keep fighting the special military operation: more Russians
castrating Russian children humanely is a war crime that will cut off the Russian horde from its supply of new blood
we should commit this war crime against Russian children

>>513239294
This. Putin must not stop now.

>>513239416
If Ukraine cannot regain lost territory militarily then what leverage do they have diplomatically?

>>513237428
>Trump has sent over so many weapons — during his first and second term — that have probably killed tens of thousands of Russian soldiers.

Republicans have stopped weapons delivery during biden's and trump second term, on top of mostly shitting on ukraine while glazing Putin (because Zelenksy refused to fake informations Trump could use against hunter biden btw). If you're going to increase your crippling debt further you could at least do it for a good cause (killing asians invader)

>>513239699
The war is costing Russia quite a lot. Putin would love to be able to stop spending a crippling amount on money on drones and artillery shells, on top of having to open his anus to china and north korea.

>>513239375
Trump called for the negotiation

>>513239416
"they" shouldn't, they will be either jailed or killed. But the rest 99% of ukranian population will only benefit form having a russian passport

>>513239872
Ukraine should hold-out because they might be able to outlast Russia economically?

Is that what you're saying here?

>>513239925
>Benefit from a Russian passport

>>513229523
I'm Scottish but speak English, does this give England the right to invade my country?
>Inb4 "yes"

>>513239974
That and the alternative is russian raping your nation. This already happened in the past and everyone fucked off from the russian sphere of influence as soon as possible for a good reason.

>>513229269 (OP)
its going to be like The Troubles in ireland on meth if russia takes territory. im expecting bombings every day.

>>513239989
well i guess Ukrainian pension fund is not doing very well at the moment

>>513239872
France is decaying on every front and you haven't even started sending white boys to die for fag marriage yet
Supporting Ukraine and America is suicide

>>513240100
Neither is Russia desu

>>513230896
Pls nuke Tallinn.

>>513239974
the solution is russia destroy your country and people. through multiculturalism, they will replace the local Slavic populations with indians, central asians, and afghanis similar to what they're doing to Belarusian people. many people forget but we will see the disappearance of Belarusian culture and language within the next 10-20 years.

Absolutely based if true. Fuck Jewkraine

>>513240083
Eastern Europe is white. Western Europe is being genocided. That's what Russia did for them.

>>513235567
I dont think you understand. The call was to inform the irrelevant third world dictators in the EU and the country formerly known as ukraine as to whats about to happen. Not to ask how they feel about it

>>513240151
No, that's what NAFO is doing to europe already. You know that.

>>513240112
>Nooo do not support your native country support my third world master instead
Fuck off agent chang

>>513240173
动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门

Russia holds these areas for so long now I think it is reasonable to conclude that Ukraine can´t take it back.

>>513240112
he is draft dodger from Ukraine most likely

>>513229269 (OP)
It's Oviyiir

>>513240128
In what sense? Russian pension is at least 3 time higher and not financed by EU loans

>>513240242
France is genociding its own people. That is a fact.

>>513235644
You're a colossal faggot and I hope you die angry.

>>513240083
>That and the alternative is russian raping your nation.

There's an entire NATO for countering the USSR.

>>513240215
russia actually kills and bombs White families. NAFO only exists on twitter not real life movement. european union has lost most of its authority can no longer enforce anything. even germany is ending all their migrant policies. however russia imports more daily, in fact russia even murdered a Polish border guard Mateusz Sitek and called Poland a "fascist racist nazi nation" because we installed more border guards and have new law where border guards can shoot and kill migrants on the border. so you have to pick a side here really. do you support russia which believes in multiculturalism and open borders and invading White nations or do you support your people. for me answer is clear maybe in australia you are more confused due to multiculturalism but i saw that thomas and aussie national movement had quite a big march the other night.

>>513240292
>no argument just starts screaming chink to shut down conversation
This id glows

>>513240352
3 time 0 is 0 and i doubt ukraine pay nothing in term of pension

https://meduza.io/en/feature/2025/01/24/in-2025-almost-no-russians-will-qualify-for-age-based-retirement-here-s-why

>>513240413
Everything you said is wrong.
Europe can't enforce anything yet they are able to keep pumping up military spending as a proportion of their GDP. That is making them poorer and setting them up for a devastating war. Only America will gain in the end.
This disproves your perception of authority in Europe

>>513240423
Post your penis chang I can tell your race by its size and shape

>>513240526
>posting literal glownigger propaganda

>>513240608
China is not the enemy, genocidal fed

>>513240579
>Everything you said is wrong.
not really. russia invaded ukraine a white country and calls them all nazis and even sends nigerians to try and kill finnish people. they even murdered Mateusz Sitek while russia called us "Fascist nazis" and that we were "White supremacist racists" for example. i can see they are very hostile to White countries while they like to support "global south" countries like nigeria, burkina faso, syria, south africa.
>Europe can't enforce anything yet they are able to keep pumping up military spending
europe isnt 1 country. EU doesnt sit military spending policy so im not sure what you are talking about. i guess you dont really know about europe as you live on other side of the planet.
>That is making them poorer
europe is generally doing alright in terms of this, much beter than most of the world especially russia/africa. i dont think this is a serious issue. only problems in europe regarding economy tend to revolve around e.g., housing.
>Only America will gain in the end.
in some ways i guess but im not sure what european country you talk about in this case.

>>513240526
so no we start a bargain? fuck off lol, the frontline awaits

>>513240711
ah youre chinese immigrant living in australia explains why you dont know thomas and NSN please next time state you are a chinese immigrant in australia

Trump wants to be able to re-assign resources to save Israel from Gazans. That is the only reason for this sudden shift. Timed right when Israel is invading Gaza City.

>>513237192
>Rn, it's Russia which is importing million of shitskins.
How exactly do you think Ukraine is going to rebuild after all this shit is over, with its population quite literally decimated and their funding expended? Mountains of debt, and tides of migrant workers.

>>513237476
It won't be, don't even need to look if up. Definitely real.

>>513229347
>surely this faggot will fly to Ukraine and fight

>>513240793
Fuck off to ukraine and fight, hypocrite

He has to try to save at least a slice of Khazaria, their home of Odessa. Putin will take it in the next offensive surge. Sounds crazy but it's true. He's gonna link up with Transnistria.

>>513233480
posting gay porn to pwn trump, so zased!

>>513240996
so let me understand you. you are chinese, you immigrated to australia, andyou come to /pol/ for what reason exactly? seriously you dont make any sense.

>>513229482
Might as well give him Alaska to stupid amerimutt kek

>>513241074
I'm white and Catholic. Will you stop committing ad hominem now?

>>513241263
you are obviously not "White and Catholic" because you got offended about someone saying something bad about china. most aussies i know love to make fun of chinks and dont like chinese society. so you made some weird comments which shows me you're likely chinese. you also have no idea about europe or european countries, which tells me again you are from china.

No matter what happened, Ukraine would end up losing its sovereignty and right to self determination. Either they were going to end up as Russia's bitch, or NATOs bitch. Looks like it was a bit of both.

>>513239903
Russia started the war and cccording to you russia is winning. What could Putin possibly gain from signing a peace treaty that he wouldn't get otherwise?

>>513241316
its more about lesser evil. in case of NATO at least you can get your own laws, have trade deals, and so on. under russia its just poverty multiculturalism and you lose your country. belarus for example will cease to exist in our lifetime. the language is already on edge of extinction.

>>513241315
China isn't the enemy. White people should not die in another evil jewish war. Dividing us and antagonising China is exactly what ZOG wants. China has never attacked us and is our biggest trade partner.
Only america wants war with them to stop them surpassing america and ending their hegemony. We shouldn't support their aggressive wars and genocides.

>>513241316
do you mean all the Ukrainians died for nothing?

>>513241510
china is actively working to destroy australia and flood it with immigrants so idk what you are even talking about.

>>513241457
NAFO advanced on Russia for decades and even took away their authority of Ukraine.
The USA has lied about peace and diplomacy for decades as seen in Libya, Iraq, Iran, Palestine, Cuba etc.
The USA is agitating for WW3 and nuclear war which is a catastrophe the likes of which have never been seen

>>513241481
if you have money and power you can make your own laws, otherwise you are a bitch, it doesn't really matter if you are in russia or in nato or any other company

>>513241481
I don't support evil and I don't support NAFOs genocide of Europe.
Supporting white men dying to fight Russia is even more retarded.

>>513229269 (OP)
Ukraine is pretty much done for. Trump realized the most realistic way to end this war is on Russia’s terms rather than pumping Ukraine with billions of dollars.

>>513241636
>advanced on Russia
we joined NATO in 90s because Russia occupied our country and we wanted peace. we were proven correct as russia attacked every country that wasnt in NATO. one reason i have low opinion of ukrainians isb ecause they truly believed they were "Special" and that russia would not attack them. well guess how that turned out lol
>>513241664
russia doesnt believe in national states or ethno-states. its a multicultural federation. its why they're working to finish off ukraine and belarus so they can federalise them. im a White nationalist so im obviously opposed to that.

>>513230600
>>513234139
>Okay. That’s option #2
also known as a BATNA
Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement
>>513234362
seems like you've chosen option 2
not that it's up to you

poor bitch niggers writhing on that nafo dick lol

>>513241634
No, that has been our own government and America since 1946 beginning with the "big Australia" lie that we need immigrants to survive.
You can't gaslight us on this.
The biggest pro immigrant forces in the west are western in origin and financial backing. Even Trump is pro legal immigration.

>>513240608
>bring up chinese dicks out of nowhere
Is this a new law? Frog's law?

>>513241535
>Was Ukrainian defense futile
Common sense would say that the Ukrainians were used for the purpose of bleeding Russia dry. It did not work as well as NATO hoped. I knew how this war was going to end. As long as NATO was not going to get personally involved, Ukraine was doomed. Russians don't care about the deaths of their own. They just send in the next wave.

>>513241807
gaslight who, chinese immigrants? i dont really care about chinese immigrants. but thomas and NSN are against chinese/indian immigrants because they are detrimental to australian society. which makes sense honestly.

>>513241730
But he isn't doing that. Russia wants zelensky gone

>>513241735
>Russia attacked every country not in NAFO
proof?
NAFO doesn't believe in ethnostates which is why every major member is actively genociding their people.

>>513241735
There are many ethno-states in russian economic union, like Tadjikistan: people come, clean toilets and go home, no one bothers them. What is the problem?

>>513241851
Its war propaganda. Dehumanise and make westerners feel superior.
Glowniggers are literally talking like niggers on pol thinking it will work. They think making us look as dumb and pathetic as niggers is good enough for us.
>muh dick

>>513229269 (OP)
>MUH NOBEL PEACE PRICE!!1

We ain't giving it to you donald, no way

>>513241924
NATO is just military alliance. we are the most homogeneous country in the world to be honest and NATO member so i dont think NATO says all that much about imigration policy etc. russia is the most multicultural country in northern hemisphere and even invaded ukraine because they claimed ukraine was "too white" and "fascist". ukraine was retarded and kept ignoring our advice when we told them russia was going to attack them. ukraine said we were lying and now ukraine got attacked because they weren't in NATO. if they were in NATO, russia would not attack them because russia would lose against NATO in a war

>>513241881
You're committing the ad hominem fallacy.
You are trying to shut down the conversation instead of addressing the arguments.

>>513241007
An amphibious assault on Odessa would be a clusterfuck. The surveillance footage of the landing alone would be a gorefest.

>>513229269 (OP)
i knew it, this is why putin accepted all the plane meme, keke.

>>513242038
shut down what argument? chinese immigration is obviously a negative to australia because chinese are hostile to Whites and any immigration would negate White Australia. china itself is not a good country because they are asiatic, and White society values innovation, exploration, creative freedom, etc whereas asiatics (descended from rice pickers) values more dominant mother-in-laws and conformism above innovation

>>513242031
>Russia claimed Ukraine was "too white"
Proof?
I know Biden genuinely said that about america. Ukraines major backer.

>>513229269 (OP)
something is strange.
the shilling on the board is not strong...
maybe something will happen or happened that we yet don´t know.

>>513235285
the russians occupy the land already, the population was russian before, russia gave ukraine it's own territory which ukies used to oppress ethnic russians and applied to be nato and house and welcome russia's enemies to it's doorstep, not leaving aside it was ukraine who turned it into a military conflict because kikes want to weaken the west and biden family to make some money out of that whorehouse of a country

>>513242082
>An amphibious assault on Odessa would be a clusterfuck.
It would probably be a combined arms assault with other pressures, the normal civilians would drive away as fast as possible like in the opening stages of the SMO. Something like that.

>>513242157
well putin in early 2000s exterminated White nationalists in russia. and he said ukraine was "White nationalist fascists" and "nazis" and putin himself said that "diversity is power" and wants to ensure diversity and multiculturalism is preserved, rather than a White nationalist ethno state. which makes sense if you think about putins history as a communist intelligence agent who was trained by jewish people like yevgeny primakov.

>>513242125
Its committed by NAFO. It has been since before China was a player. It continues to be. Even Trump and every western leader is for mass immigration.
You are gaslighting and you keep labelling me a chink to shut down conversation.

>>513242157
Putin's entire rhetorical game for this invasion is predicated on the "denazification" of Ukraine. That is to say: The ethnic divide between West Ukraine and East Ukraine. You can see it here when people talk about Donbas Separatists. More specifically, how there is absolutely no distinction drawn between the Separatists, who live in Ukraine and are ostensibly Ukrainian, but align themselves with Russia. On all casualty claims they are listed as Russian military rather than as rebels.

>>513241986
They also pretend to be anti nigger as well
>le ziggers!
Imagine being a glownigger assigned to 4chan. There can't be a worse position. You'd have to be the biggest loser of a glownigger to end up here, lol

>>513229269 (OP)
I love Trump.

>>513242249
So he never said it was "too white" which you put in quotes
But Biden did say that the white american population needs to shrink proportionally and Trump is a massive kike.

>>513229681
they can try but they would lose. would be the fastest way to clear out their invasion problem though

>>513242321
not sure how NATO controls chinese immigration. China isnt in NATO so i dont think NATO controls Chinese border control. maybe im wrong though
>>513242419
biden never bombed a White country and called them nazis, and biden was pretty retarded. i can understand why a chinese immigrant in australia would be against White nationalism however, because you woulld have to go back to china.

>>513229619
You are an idiot with limited thinking.
You remind me of the infantry generals in the Pentagon who still think that war is like a football game
>This is the Big Line - we have to push it *that way*
>everyone on this side is a "good guy" - everything on that side is a "bad guy"
Fulda Fucktards
The Russians have focused on grinding up armies and destroying vehicles and equipment
They're up to what? 5 armies destroyed now? 6?
Their air defenses are likely miles deep and they have the largest most experienced and battle hardened troops on the continent.
The Russians will want to keep Crimea and the Donbass
They want their deep water port on the Black Sea.
That homunculus kike Zelensky should have taken the deal when peace talks were first instigated - now he's faced with a much worse terms, a destroyed country, and a million dead...
I think if he is obstinate and says "No" just because that's all he knows to say, he will be simply done away with.
Either his SAS close in protective services detachment will just leave and he will be done in, or they will do it themselves and blame it on someone else...

>>513242334
That doesn't mean they want mass immigration. That's why BRICS doesn't have mass immigration. Russians hate Nazis because they killed millions of Russians in WW2. It doesn't mean they don't want white countries.
All western countries do have high mass immigration levels to the point of genocide however and the soviet union kept eastern europe white while america was destroying western europe.
All western countries are confirmed anti white.

>>513242571
>That's why BRICS doesn't have mass immigration.
brasil is quite literally the most muttified country on the planet.

>>513241636
So, to reiterate: NATO is the real aggressor, but Putin will capitulate to NATO by signing a peace treaty while he's winning in Ukraine. That definitely makes sense.

>>513242500
Yes he did and he called Russia and Belarus Nazis and compared their leaders to Hitler too just like the rest of the EU and NAFO.

why should I care about ukraine's territory

>>513242571
>That doesn't mean they want mass immigration.
Correct, I'm just giving you some context on what the narrative is regarding the Ukrainian nazis, what Putin says about them and why. I don't necessarily agree with the pollack you're conversing with. The situation surrounding the war is extremely complicated and once someone breaks away from the spoonfed narrative it starts to become more a matter of personal interpretation.

>>513242654
not really, and russia even calls Poland "fascist nazis" because we have .e.g, border control. and belarus is sadly going extinct thanks to Putin's mass immigration policies and loss of Belarusian soveriegnty. sad to see their language go extinct and even worse to know that belarus as a people will stop existing within the decade. already on the decline.

IT'S NAFOVER
>IT'S NAFOVER
IT'S NAFOVER
>IT'S NAFOVER
IT'S NAFOVER
>IT'S NAFOVER
IT'S NAFOVER
>IT'S NAFOVER
IT'S NAFOVER
>IT'S NAFOVER
IT'S NAFOVER
>IT'S NAFOVER

>>513242605
That isn't because of modern day immigration, retard. That was because of Spain 200 years ago.

I don't even think you're Polish. I think you're an american fed behind a proxy.

>>513242617
You're standing on something that hasn't happened?

>>513242792
brasil has modern day immigration as most BRICs nations do. india itself weaponises immigration with the goal to destroy peopels homes. they even flood into arabic countries e.g., bahrain is full of indians. not sure what you are even saying at this point. you seem to be getting progressively more upset especially whenever china is brought up. i mean it's obvious you arent' White lol

>>513242724
Yes, its bullshit justification for war. The reason is american aggression but most people don't know or get that. Its easier to point out the neo nazi brigades in ukriane which westerners have a double standard with.

America is the only country in the world that kills millions of people in aggressive wars across the globe. Americans keep defending these actions as "mistakes" when they are carefully planned and even the plans are public.

I'm really confused at how it's possible for both sides to claim that they are winning at the same time for so long without getting reality checked hard enough to drop the act.

>>513242792
Not Spain, but Portugal.

>>513242766
they've started asking 'what's nafo?'

WHAT'S NAFO? LOL

>>513242725
>subset of Russians switch from one dialect to another
Oh no not the heckin' RuZZian genociderinos thank dog NATO is sending inifinity jeets and Africans to Warsaw to keep them vatniks out

>>513229269 (OP)
Vouodve ended it there by killing Putin himself. World leaders would never, but should. I'd elect a leader God emperor who took care of business themselves like that.

>>513242885
You have contradicted absolutely everything I have said including the fact that NAFO genocides it's own people. Somehow you blame China even though there is zero proof for that. None.

I don't think you're a civilian poster.

I don't have a dog in this fight, not much anyways, but I wanted to share an idea.

Cede land to an agreement; a joint economic zone where Russia has a little more temporary control, but where Ukraine has rights to mining control and export/import control as well as border control. For 50 years. At the end of 50 years, and during, the ICC, the citizens of the United States, and the Chinese government in a 2-of-3 scheme gets to decide what happens to that land; In the one extreme, this zone continues again for another 20 years; in the best case, the land gets returned to Ukraine. After 100 years if nothing improves, the land is split between Russia and Ukraine.

Problem solvedish.

>>513243089
NATO is not genociding its own people, whereas russia has invaded a White country in the name of diversity.

>>513229269 (OP)
> NYTimes
Fake news. I don't know why people even bother with these "news" sites. They're always wrong.

>>513242966
>w-we never even shilled that, we're onto drumpf is a pedo now

>>513242966
most people dont know what NAFO is unless you go on /pol/ or have some twitter account.

>>513243218
There you go again

You're an obvious paid NAFO shill just screaming that the sky is green

>>513243218
NATO trained and armed Osama Bin Laden
Pretty sure he killed white people

>>513243218
>slavs
>white
>mass immigration
>not genocide

>>513242216
Sounds like we can retake Texas with that excuse

>>513234411
Zelensky has consistently refused to talk with him. He'd rather keep sending Ukrainians to their deaths as long as they keep taking Russians with them.

>>513242933
>I'm really confused at how it's possible for both sides to claim that they are winning
Anon, that's literally all good politicians in every country forever. Change what winning means and everyone wins when talking to their people

>>513230896
Can't take Kiev go fuck yourself subhuman vodkanigger

>>513233846
>Have a vote
>Isn't the result you wanted
>"It wasn't legit"

>>513233297
Hi Mr jeet go shit in the street

>>513243794
Zelensky is Americas puppet. Ukraine cannot survive without american funds so they control it. Its a proxy war. America tells them not to negotiate. Why hasn't Trump stopped weapon shipments if its not Americas war? All presidents are pro war.

>>513229681
Alaska gets Russia back.

>>513233845
Dirty brown jeet

>>513243972
Its ok when we discredit votes. Trust the experts.

>>513243972
>>Have a vote
kek

>>513234599
rushits have nothing but niggers like you

>>513243998
>All presidents are pro war.
not all, only this one, the one that actually started it

>>513234804
Your the dumb nigger

>>513242031
>NATO is just military alliance
So its just a coincidence thier goals are exactly the same as the WEF'sp2kd8?
Cunt

>>513229681
You already know most of it is going to become French.

>>513243218
Monoglkranians are not white nither does you, jewmutt, a single Russian's genetic is worth more to the white race than a million of muttlacks or mongolkranians, you literally should kill your own mother and a neighbor to save a single Russian. Threatening Russia a crime is two magnitude more severe than Russia putting its surrounding borderlands in their place. If you didn't act like a rabid nigger a white man wouldn't have to come and slap you in the face, its that simple, the fact what you ignore all of this once again shows what it was a right choice to start enforcing peace with force.

>>513244257
Trump bombed Iran. Trump is committing a genocide.

>>513229347
We have little at stake. If the peace plan fails, we turn our attention to immigration and trade issues.

>>513238429
They want us to do all of the heavy lifting, even though it's a European war.

>>513244942
You turn your attention to China. That's what your military is saying.

>>513245143
Its your war. The US owns the EU. It literally occupies Germany militarily.

The US even publishes their plan publicly such as cutting Russian gas from Europe.
https://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR3063.html

>>513236835
>pootin ain’t winning anymore
lol

>>513245143
The RAND corporation literally wrote about everything the US is doing in 2019

>Chapter four
Geopolitical Measures . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 95
Measure 1: Provide Lethal Aid to Ukraine . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 96
Measure 2: Increase Support to the Syrian Rebels . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 103
Measure 3: Promote Regime Change in Belarus . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 109
Measure 4: Exploit Tensions in the South Caucasus. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 115
Measure 5: Reduce Russian Influence in Central Asia . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 121
Measure 6: Challenge Russian Presence in Moldova

Trumps admin is following it

>>513237721
Damn the tranny comparison really hit home eh

>>513229347
>France
We should have let you continue to be Hitlers bitch. But right now your shitskins bitch. You really shouldn't be talking. Ouifag.

>>513234411
What is this Russian propaganda? Despite the overwhelming advantage Russia has in artillery, tanks, armored vehicles, aviation, air defense, recently the quantity and quality of drones, the fact that their forces grew and Ukrainian forces shrank, despite the fact they replenish their forces with volunteers and Ukraine catches men like dogs on the street, the fact that Russia alone outproduces the entire NATO, alliance, including the US, by a factor of 4:1, despite the body exchanges having been ratiod to the other side to a ridiculous degree for the past two years; surely despite all of this Ukraine is at least getting 100 zigger mobiks, no, wait, 1000 zigger mobiks for every civilian puppy that Putin bombs warcrimely. You should definitely join up with the AFU, btw.

>>513240894
This

>>513229269 (OP)
There was never going to be any other way that this went. Russia isn't some brown backwater, they've got a fuck ton of nuclear weapons and unlimited resources to draw from. Whoever thought up this idea should be publicly hung, drawn and quartered.
They went to war with a military they couldn't beat wasting fuck knows how many lives, destroyed European manufacturing, wrecked energy prices and got absolutely fuck all for their troubles.
They also exposed the West and NATO as a complete paper tiger and a spent force.

What an absolute shitshow.

>>513229347
Is it crazy to "cede" land Russia is in possession of? Maybe the ukie Nazis shouldn't have listened to the CIA.

>>513247341
>ukie Nazis shouldn't have listened to the CIA.

>>513229269 (OP)
It's only logical. Ukraine has been fighting for years now and has made exactly zero meaningful gains since their big pushback early on in the war. The definition of insanity, remember, is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results. The border needs to be redrawn to match the current reality on the ground.

>>513230600
Why would Putin want the war to stop? The West has thrown hundreds of billions in treasure, credibility and weapons at Ukraine severely depleting their reserves and has achieved absolutely nothing. This will go down as one of the biggest gaffes in geopolitical history and one of the events that led to the end of the rules based international order.
Trump is thankfully smart enough to try to keep up appearances by making a deal with Putin when they have no other choice. He made a similar move in Iran when he bombed the nuclear facility and then claimed total victory because he knew that an invasion would have been a total disaster for the US.

>>513247627
And we haven't heard a single peep from Iran ever since. That sounds like total victory to me. Iran cucked 100%.

>>513247684
It's embarrassing that you think this. Iran wasn't the one who provoked that exchange, it was the psychopaths in Israel who decided to start attacking all of their neighbours and starting regime change operations across the region. Bombing the nuclear facility gave the Israelis an opportunity to retreat and save face.

>>513232273
Because less people dying on both sides is a win for all
>>513231445
This. Ukraine isn’t “giving up land”. They don’t hold it to give it up.

>>513229347
Your nation is getting raped by Afro niggers and sandniggers and is run by faggots. If you're even white, I would be a touch more worried about that than 'evil Putin' and Slavic disputes in east Ukraine.
But hey, you do you. Viva la whatever's left of France.

>>513247341
Their Nazi leaders are undercover agents

>>513229681
Russia took the clay
Words won't take it back
Get your rifle, if you care so much

>>513229523
>>513229681
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>>513234658
>>513236998
>>513240049
>muh lines on a map
What's it like being a faggot?

>>513231787
They have the clay. You won't stop them!

>>513229269 (OP)
Trump really needs this war to end so Blackrock can start rebuilding Ukraine

>>513229482
>Not even forcing good faith ceasefire
No he isn't. Kill yourself. Shit meme war will now go on for 2 more weeks and this shit board will get spammed with more nothingburger cauldron spamming movements. I'm sick of this shit.

>>513240177
I'd say we're soon to be more relevant than you desu, you've proven yourself to be nothing but snakes, again & again. Ukraine will keep on fighting & Europe will back it, as it's actually a security matter for us, not you faggots that have never fought a defensive war in your existence. I also imagine this'll void your minerals deal, so I expect & have seen, more & more investment in the EU, as you see a capital flight from the US to Europe, much like we saw from Europe to the US over the course od both world wars, which is basically the only reason Europe ever landed in your pocket... The era of "American exceptionalism" as much as it never existed, is now certainly over. Good bye.

>>513229724
How can there be a swap if Russia isn't giving up anything? Unless you consider not taking all of Ukraine a Russian concession?

>>513247627
>Trump is thankfully smart enough to try to keep up appearances by making a deal with Putin when they have no other choice.
I get so irritated watching Western media because they keep crybabying about Trump not being tough enough with Putin. What do these retards expect? Trump to declare war?

If Trump can come to any agreement with the Russians where Russia doesn't get everything they want, it would be a victory for America at this point.

>>513234030
>American taxes funded the Ukrainian war effort for 2 years. Now they want Ukraine to cede land because a new guy is in charge. Politics is weird.
Americans by-and-large are retards who have no idea what is going on around them, and know little more than what they are shown on their TV's. This is especially a problem for boomers who never really used the internet, and/or rely almost wholly on cable news for their worldviews.

>>513237476
>I hope to God that pic related is fake.
It's fake, but also real.

>>513229347
>reality is putin's bitch

>>513250337
holy shit ITS OVER FOR JOOTIN

>>513234970
>Idk if slavs are whites but russia is currently genociding them. That's why Ukraine doesn't want to be part of Russia.
Imagine believing any of that.

>>513233480
It must suck to be Finnish. So eternally butt hurt by Russia but powerless to do anything about it.

>>513250132
>Ukraine will keep on fighting
And eventually run out of men

>>513250132
Dont you threaten us with what we want! Grrrr