Thread 513268539

Night shift foreigners commenting on Japan and apparently they think America has this amazing prosperous economy and everyone is doing well.
Let me lay it straight, niggers, America is dead.

Gold reserves are being sold to keep the yield curve under control.
If interest rates don't lower soon, shit is fucked, but if they are, it's inflation forever.
No one can afford housing anymore. The math doesn't work out. It will never unwind though.

Trump has floated some of the bullshit obviously being bandied around to solve this
>Government buys your mortgage and owns it and charges you less
>All infants given $1000 index fund accounts and are tax incentivized for live to pay into them, making every human life commoditized and financialized
If this fails, it's more Andrew Yang/Mamdani UBI bullshit.

The AI bubble is a hail mary that won't do shit. It's propping up GDP purely through spending to build data centers. It's Keynesian broken window spending. These data centers use too much energy and we're rolling into an energy crisis.

People can't keep up with asset valuation, but it's now completely impossible to reverse any of it.
America is fucked. Yet, for some reason, normies have no fucking idea.
What's going on can last about 3 years before capital markets and labor markets permanently delaminate and supply chains fall apart. This can be mitigated with extreme policies that border between hard raw socialism and hail mary jewish wall street bullshit. None of those measures will extend the game past 10 years. That's the long tail.

Do people not realize this? Do people actually think people are doing well right now?

Just shut the fuck up and keep paying taxes.
All that matters is Israel all other nations burn in hell.

>>513268539 (OP)
>No one can afford housing anymore
The reason no one takes you silver memes the feds anons seriously is your historical ignorance and you're act now or else hysteria.

We have a thread already: >>513259044
>>513259044
>>513259044
>>513259044


(Yes, OP is correct: the Real Economy of goods-services-commodities is Dead)

>> 513268539
https://youtu.be/YYtBF1OVciU?si=wHDP29cAv_IMn68G

>>513269250
>'historical ignorance'


See (here to reply) : >>513259044
>>513259044

>>513269110
>>513269250
>>513269365
>>513269402
You mutts are already minority White especially among the youth lmao!

>>513268539 (OP)
Yawn. All this doomsday and demoralization post are so tiresome. Nothing ever happens

>>513268539 (OP)
All of these can be easily solved by:

1. Crashing the stock market and letting it stagnate for a decade
2. Weimar dollar
3. Winning a war with Iran

Choose neither and you get the first two along with losing a war.

>>513269461
I live in a place thats been minority white since the 1700s. Why do you think that matters? Whites still own and run everything.

>>513269479
>snarkpost

>>513268539 (OP)
>>513268539 (OP)
>Do people actually think people are doing well right now?
You should just front run the collapse don't wanna live in that world

>>513269250
>actually goyim here’s a chart housing is cheap now
Fuck off. People see what they can’t afford with their own eyes

>>513269511
The EU is an emerging market at this point, it just hasn't been realized yet by the masses

>>513269479
It’s been happening for the last 5 years retard. It’s in the process of happening

>>513269511
>i shtudied from five books about doubleya doubleya too my granddaddy drove a tank he had a Nazi medal he stole from a corpse I know bout heestry

>>513269824
RE: housing, most people are trapped with 'Golden Handcuffs'
Prices have skyrocketed over the past 7 years nationwide, in addition to the rate hikes 3 years ago, meaning that even well-employed 2-income families with mortgages or full ownership of medium priced homes can simply not afford to leave the houses they purchased over the past decade. Selling their house would mean a substantial downgrade to a different price bracket, or that they would have unaffordable mortgage payments.

Everyone is imprisoned by debt, it's a Debt-Based Economic Model.

>>513269863
We're still in rn the six-year global economic freefall collapse that began in summer 2019 >>513263907

>>513269250
my best friend bought a house in a terrible neighborhood in 2014 for $135,000.
His neighbors house that is even shittier just got listed for $590,000 and will likely go for 100k more than that.
it is 800 sq ft in a neighborhood riddle with drug addicts, gunshots almost nightly, break ins and vehicle thefts.
you are delusional if you think house prices are dropping.

>>513269571
>Why do you think that matters? Whites still own and run everything.

You're ngmi lol.

>>513268539 (OP)
People like you should be shot in the ovaries the instant you're found.

The AI bubble" is not propping up the GDP. That's just a fucking retarded comment. 60% of AI's GDP contribution is one company. Nvidia. The entire data center expenditure $1tn. For AI it is around $336bn. That is about 1% of the US GDP for only 1 year.
>It's Keynesian broken window spending.
Fucking word salad. You don't even know what that means. You're just throwing out lolbert buzzwords you saw somewhere on the internet.
>These data centers use too much energy and we're rolling into an energy crisis.
All AI data centers and even all cryptomining combined with it (where this bullshit narrative originates) uses less electricity than we waste in any given year. Street lights (including crosswalk signals, sensors, traffic lights, etc.) use more energy than AI data centers. Total data center energy consumption is estimated to be around 340TWh, with AI being a significant fraction, but not nearly all of it. The US is half of that consumption. We waste 2000 TWh every year. We consume around 27000TWh.

>>513271081
Holy coping Jew.

>>513271081
Why are energy prices skyrocketing in the DC area of data centers cost less energy than streetlights?

>>513268539 (OP)
Chink bot.

>>513271664
>Data is coping.
Don't be a nigger.
>Why are energy prices skyrocketing in the DC area of data centers cost less energy than streetlights?
jfc...why do you think that comment makes sense? Read it aloud. You're just so fucking stupid.

>>513269461
nice meme flag gyp
not sure how this demographic will prevent me from killing niggers when the country collapses

>>513271952
There’s this thing called the economy which means you economize, you budget. However marginal compared to the total, adding in more costs on top of what’s already there strains your budget. Only women think
>wall compared to my total income this purse isn’t that expensive

You fucking finance Jews can fuck right off to hell.
Your head is so far up your ass you think you have the ship pointed in the right direction because the fake and gay McKinsey tables say you’re green. HOLY SHIT WHAT RETARDS

>>513271952
This is the problem with you finance fags.
McKinsey was a shabbos goy whose firm was operated by a tone of North Jersey Jews that used it in conjunction with Warburg and Baruch money to take over the OSS then CIA.
What McKinsey has done since then is craft unlimited bullshit fake articles and graphs and reports to tell dumbass CEOs and investors what they want to hear, complementing the stock speculation system Jews created with Kuhn and Loeb.
The purpose of McKinsey is to dangle fake magic marionettes in front of goyim to make them think there’s an actual functional real economy in the US when actually McKinsey’s advice has helped the Jews loot and dismantle American industry.
>actually don’t invest in your employees and instead put bank loans into stock buybacks that will make America prosper

Every generation there’s a new stock of you retards that but into this

>>513272527
More world salad. Nothing you say is making sense. Are you high right now? I think you're high. Where the fuck do you get the "finance jew" shit from?

Economy, economize, and budget are not the same things. Economy is not stagnant. Economize just means to put in economic perspective. Budget is also not stagnant.

You're a fucking idiot. Absolutely fucking stupid. You can't even make coherent sentences because your brain is gone. You make disconnected comments and ask questions that one can only assume are influenced by whatever rabbit trail your bong resin clogged neurons traveled down while you zoned out reading the screen. It's rare I experience shame on behalf of someone else. This is one of those cases. Just stop. Your brain is swiss cheese already.

>>513272948
Oh look, there's another idiotic post with disconnected weed garbled nonsense in it.

>>513273211
>>513273257
I actually seriously wonder who the fuck you are.
>jew
>zogbot
>finance bro
>DC fag
>actual shill/bot

The American economy is fucked you’ve already been called out.

>>513273211
Difference is I don’t smoke weed or do coke like you.

So the shill ran and now we're just ignoring the topic, eh?

>>513268539 (OP)
To be fair the whole world economy is fucked. So people and I think China will "start" a war and all the debt to be defaulted on after the quick war ends.

>>513271081
Shalom

>>513268539 (OP)
>Do people not realize this? Do people actually think people are doing well right now?
Au contraire, it seems even NPCs are noticing how we cannot have anything nice while funding the entire world's police force. Just look at Europe, absolutely kvetching about us hosting Russia. That sense of entitlement to America seems to be shared from those in wealthy nations expecting defense all the way down to the illiterate nigger trying to cross the border.

Sorry bitcoin accumulator here. None of this applies to me. Only for fiat bag holders.

>>513268539 (OP)
The only thing that can save America is dirt cheap energy prices, all these climate change clean energy people should be being hunted down, they are the root issue preventing prosperity. Energy is the foundation of civilization and anyone who does anything that can make it more expensive needs to be in jail at best

>>513268539 (OP)
>Gold reserves are being sold to keep the yield curve under control.
They don't need to sell gold to implement YCC. If anything, they're probably buying gold right now, with their fake printed money.

>>513276288
This is basically the starting point, but it's a little more challenging than that. Economics of oil are weird. If it's cheap, it becomes unaffordable to produce, if it's expensive, the economy glues up and can't afford it.
This is actually the fuckery that results from believing in MMT too much.

I think oil communism might be a good idea. A government owned private company. A jobs program. Back pensions/SS with the oil. Produce it regardless of cost.
Heavy industry communism as well, including train communism.

>>513276405
It's what they're actually doing not what you think they need to or not do.
DUMBASS
We're so far into the endgame and you have no fucking clue.
YCC was 6 years ago. If you hear that discussed it's memetic chaff to make retards like you spin in circles and totally miss what's happening in the bond market.

>>513276621
So, you think fear of the bond market is why the fed hasn't been cutting?

Housing prices are largely a function of migrants who were brought in without building enough housing for them
Deport millions of migrants, housing prices crash
USA is starting that with half a million more homes for sale than buyers ... the price adjustment will take time till dying boomers get desperate and accept the 'market' has changed
USA is going full ahead on energy, including nuclear, this also will take a little time, but energy will be cheap again
after the EU goes in the shitter and breaks up Europe will finally follow
it is going right to the brink but the West will save itself

>>513268539 (OP)
The powers that be have a new system that has been in the development for decades now, ready to be rolled out in the coming years. It will operate in parallel starting sometime this year and by the next decade it will be fully operational as the Agenda 2030 goals are slowly being implemented.
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end. AI will be at the center of it all.

The Great Reset is inevitable.

>>513277275
Nah, it's more a function of extra money in the system. Other than that, financialization has hollowed out the economy, so that real economic activity, like housing construction, has become prohibitively expensive.

>>513277014
Yeah at first, but since Trump took office they are buying bonds with the gold reserves in order to increase market demand for them.
It seems like smart money knows that there's nothing left to financialize and the customer/homeowner class no longer has enough income to meet the financialized obligations.

Rate cuts and hyperinflation is inevitable.
This is why Trump has been floating bullshit where like the government takes over your mortgage and charges you a fee for the privilege.

>>513277275
Migrants contribute to the problem BUT IT MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS PUMPED INTO THE STOCK MARKET SINCE 2008 YOU ABSOLUTE DUMBASS

>>513277451
There will be a collapse you fucking bot. The tech they think will be able to manage social contagion isn't ready, and the problem is accelerating.
They think they'll audible the Great Reset collapse, but it's going to be like COVID but much worse.

Collapse is inevitable.
Jews will be blamed by the way. There's not enough time for Jews to move the goalposts from where they are now, before the collapse hits.

>>513269110
>Keep paying taxes
Lol no. Don't think I will.

>>513277653
I highly doubt they are selling their gold. For one thing, the gold is legally owned by the US Treasury, but it is in the custody of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. So the Treasury can't just sell the gold. And the Fed can't sell the gold either...

As for trying to create demand for treasuries... the problem comes when the upcoming issuance comes due, so they wouldn't need to apply the downward pressure just yet.

>>513277957
Do you just doubt or believe your way through life nigger?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-treasury-secretary-eyes-750-213046904.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-musk-fort-knox-gold-reserve-b2712352.html

>>513277879
There will be no collapse, no violence, no uprising, no world war, no revolution, no killing of jews or politicians or other such fantasies. Instead there will be law & order, compliance and total surveillance until the very end.

Btw these type of morons like this moron here have been screeching about collapse for decades now almost daily. If you listened to these morons you missed out on countless money making opportunities and will continue to do so.

>Japan thinks the USA is doing well
The USA has been forcing the Japanese to eat shit in a desperate bid to protect itself. The vassals (Japan, Korea, Europe) are being sacrificed to the International Bankers (Globohomo) & Israel.
Everybody is right fucked.

>>513269461
Montana is surprising since it's the Meth capital of the US.

>>513278082
>you've been saying the collapse will happen for decades
It has been obvious that it will eventually happen, for decades. Are you dumb?

>>513278163
There are oblique structural and social reasons why Japan will do okay as Asia picks up the slack of a collapsed American hegemony.
Neither social scientists nor economists are very good at paying attention to real structures and abstractify and bullshitify their analyses.

>>513278076
>https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trumps-treasury-secretary-eyes-750-213046904.html
>Fortune has reported there has been growing speculation about whether the Treasury might update its accounting to reflect gold's market value. Doing so would add approximately $750 billion to the government's balance sheet, at least on paper.
That would be a reval of the statutory price, which would mean that the treasury would end up with a huge amount of money "on paper"... so it's an accounting trick to create a huge amount of money without having to issue treasuries, but it would create a lot of inflation. But, to carry out the reval, they would want to keep their gold, not sell it. The idea is to reprice the gold they own, not sell it.
>https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-musk-fort-knox-gold-reserve-b2712352.html
>The gold is already gone.
That's the conspiracy theory that the gold is long gone, it's doesn't suggest that Trump started selling gold recently.

>>513278867
You have to read between the lines, dumbass. Did you think the LIBOR was legit?

>>513278995
I don't disagree that the whole system is going to hell (eventually, not in two weeks). But it's illogical that the US would be selling gold. For another thing, the gold price has gone up. If someone was dumping gold wouldn't you expect it to be dropping?

>>513279102
Not if the gold's value was being pumped into treasuries, modifying the relative price of gold and the US dollar.

>>513279459
The dollar has also been dropping.

>>513280204
Yes the whole thing is to increase future value of dollars by dropping current value of dollars by moving current gold valuation into the future, meaning you need more today dollars to buy the gold now.

Except, the "future" value of the dollar will crash as soon as there's no more gold to convert into treasuries.

>>513280667
hi anon, I like your posts, you are a thoughtful, intelligent and contemplative man. Here's my deal, I"m a schizo who sees this as all being done on purpose to implement the CBDC and microchip everyone. Is that part of your future forecast? Also can we profit somehow in the short term? Would love to get some land before it all goes down, I'm way too late aren't I?

>>513281218
Find a gig in Asia and just try to survive. Literally marry some ugly short Thai girl if you have to.

The CBDC plan, basically, is crashing out. Yes, that was the plan, but their calling audibles at this point.

>>513268539 (OP)
they just see the pharaohs on social media but when they come to america they just become one of the peasants cleaning the pharoh shit specked anus.

>>513268539 (OP)
American capitalism is on life support. The opioid crisis was due to our political financial system, which was a case of our most important industry combined with capitalism actually causing harm

In general, it causes too many ponzi schemes. Like colleges requiring all these endless courses that have no effect on your outcomes in the labor market. Unnecessary medical treatments.

I don't even know why our stocks go up outside of reserve currency.

>>513281778
Line must go up or the whole charade falls apart.

>>513274115
Most bots refer to themselves as "I."

Pity the newfag

>>513277807
/thread

>>513281524
asia also has all the financial problems you just said were going to be a death blow to the united states
pick a lane

>>513268539 (OP)
UBI is the future, it has to be. You can't just subsistence empoverish 100 million people in the US especially without there being an uprising. The smartest option would be the government creating a fake uprising to oust the federal reserve and do what the nazis did and base their currency on gdp

>>513284311
That's fine, you just ignored the entire discussion of social structures and supply chains.
It's cool, I get it, you're a retard that thinks the economy is real and that we live in a free market.

>>513268539 (OP)
Housing is affordable, just not in the major metro areas.
You can build in some areas within 15 miles of a grocery store for $200k.

>>513285743
Housing is not affordable. Stop obfuscating bitch.
"Just live near the woods in Tennessee where there are no jobs and build a trailer that costs $250k today but cost $30k 20 years ago"
Great solution dumbass.