Thread 513268627

Russia will get these lands in the next months anyway through force.

Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country.

>>513268627 (OP)
Aside from jews wanting heavenly jerusalem, there's supposedly like 14+ trillion in mineral resources in that land that Russia has taken. That's what they're really fighting for.

>>513268627 (OP)
Ookraine should give up. Russia will collapse once the war is over. Wait 5 years and its done.

>ILooks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country.

Proof? Do you have an official source to verify your claims?????????????

>>513268627 (OP)
>bro just give us these lands and also some more we haven't even taken over yet, and we won't attack you for a bit
In what universe is this a good deal lmao

>>513268627 (OP)
>Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country.
i wouldn't even wipe my ass with the russian constitution, every one of their words are worthless, meaningless lies
russia only guarantees to lie about everything

>>513268627 (OP)
Odessa is missing on your map

>oh yeah that's a great deal for germany
>after austria and the sudetenland we'll totally stop
>you have our guarantee

>>513269057
Pretty much this

>>513268627 (OP)
>Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future
lmao, russia has given at least 3 such guarantees in the last 30 years.
>Russia will get these lands in the next months anyway
nope, the took less than 100 km in the last 3.5 years.

>>513268627 (OP)
>no kharkov
>no odessa
>no kiev
Lame and gay, also what is the purpose if ukraine will not be allowed in nato/eu and stop with nazi shit? Take the whole bank or go home

>>513268627 (OP)
Im all for TZD but Ukraine should take the deal ASAP if they know what's good for them.

>>513268627 (OP)
cool but i like the option that gives me more dead ziggers better

>>513269050
Would the Russian people be prepared to scede Königsberg(to Germany cuz fuck poland) to get Odessa?

>>513269024
Otherwise, the war will continue until we get these lands anyway; in the meantime, you run out of men, your economy is wrecked, and social unrest rises up.
How about this deal?

>>513269201
No. But you are always welcome to come and try to take it. Would you?

>>513269226
>Otherwise, the war will continue until we get these lands anyway; in the meantime, you run out of men, your economy is wrecked, and social unrest rises up.
How about this deal?
First of all >you
Second, why is this board too retarded to understand basic game theory? Do you also give up a chess game against a stronger opponent as soon as you're down a rook?

>>513269287
No matter how much you sulk, it won't change things. They'll take them and more if peace isn't made.

My understanding is the US pretty much accepted that the land would go to Russia, but that it was likely they'll have to fight to take it so everyone saves face.

>>513269287
Are you genuinely retarded? Yes, even grandmasters give up a game once they realise their opponent has better positional or material advantage

I asked GPT to give some examples

1. Garry Kasparov vs. Veselin Topalov, Wijk aan Zee 1999

Kasparov, playing White, eventually resigned in positions where Topalov’s pawn structure and piece activity were dominant. Even though material was roughly balanced at times, Kasparov recognized that Topalov’s initiative would inevitably lead to material loss or checkmate.
2. Bobby Fischer vs. Boris Spassky, Reykjavik 1972, Game 6

Fischer resigned in positions where Spassky’s coordination of rooks and bishops controlled key files and diagonals. Fischer saw that any defense would crumble under Spassky’s positional pressure, making further play futile.
3. Magnus Carlsen vs. Sergey Karjakin, World Championship 2016, Game 3

Carlsen, with White, resigned after Karjakin achieved a superior pawn structure and active pieces that gave him a winning endgame. Carlsen recognized that continuing would not change the outcome against Karjakin’s precise defensive setup and counterplay.
4. Anatoly Karpov vs. Viktor Korchnoi, World Championship 1978

Karpov resigned in games where Korchnoi had a pawn majority on one flank and active pieces controlling critical squares. Even though the material difference wasn’t huge, Karpov saw that Korchnoi’s positional advantage would inevitably convert into a win.
5. Viswanathan Anand vs. Magnus Carlsen, World Championship 2013, Game 9

Anand resigned when Carlsen’s pieces dominated the board and his king was exposed. Anand recognized that Carlsen’s positional grip would allow him to win material or deliver a mating attack, making further resistance pointless.

>>513269274
isnt K/D ratio 14 russians to 1 ukrainian? At this rate russia will run out of meat

>>513268627 (OP)
This is a good deal for Ukraine. Watch them (or rather Zelensky, who is set to become a persona non grata the moment the war ends and he leaves office) tear it up while also throwing insults. This prolongs the war but increases the odds of Ukraine eventually collapsing and ceding more areas (particularly those not leveled by bombs; most notably Odessa).

>>513268789
Russia is already a resource rich country without that stolen land, they're just too stupid to extract it themselves, no one in the entire world will help them now after this chimp out because russia are nothing more than subhuman niggers to be kept in extreme poverty and destitution for the betterment of all
Remember Rex Tillerson he was sec of state and the go between for Russia to receive western equipment for extraction russia couldn't help themselves and fucked that up because of their nigger behavior during donald's first term

>>513269274
Europe would take it easily and get all the necessary resources by occupying russia if it wasn't for faggots and women running European countries. so in many ways you have to be thankful its run by sodomites

>>513269523
Who cares, point is to deny the resources to others, especially jews.

>>513269492
You see no one left to fight. So why wouldn't you try to take Koenigsberg?

>>513268627 (OP)
> Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country.
Oh, this time for real? Real-real? Swear?

>>513269492
It's so cute that there are people who actually believe 14 to 1.

>>513269586
You had plenty of time. For example, in the 90s - 2000s. Also no women in charge during that period in European countries. Why didn't you?

The best thing for Russia to do is beg for mercy and leave Ukraine, present their blown out asses to China in the hopes Xi plugs their bloody assholes with cheap rice Russians can use to make wine and spend the rest of their miserable lives in the natural stupor they're so used to

>>513269782
Or what?

>>513268627 (OP)
>Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country.

LMAO. Even here in Russia the vast majority of people, including hawkish vatniks, know that Russia won't stop invading ("liberating" by Russian definition) other countries.

>>513269613
russia is jewish to its very core

>>513269031
THIS! SO MUCH THIS!!! NAFO FRENS STAND FIRM AGAINST PUTHANOS AAAAAAAAAAAA
TWO MORE WEEKS AND RUssIAN REGIME WILL COLLAPSE!!!

>>513269843
Also THIS! JEW MONGOL MUSLIM SHITSKIN COMMIES attack
WHYTE
CHRISTCHUN
NAZI
TRAD
UKRAINIANS!!!

513269851
513269896
absolutely buck broken delirium

>>513269843
If that were true, they wouldn't be pounding out Ukraine and their entire jewish leadership.

>>513269924
It’s actually mindbroken transfriendly sis but the point stands

>>513269031
They have some things in common with ukies

>>513269851
>>513269896
Is this VatnikGPT I heard about?

>>513269843
FUCKING RUSNIGGER MONGOLOIDS DID ILLEGAL UNPROVOKED INVASION OF THE TRAD WHYTE NAZI HECKING UKRAINE!!!

>>513268627 (OP)
>no Odessa
>no Kharkiv
oh zizsters how will we cope?

>>513269523

The Chinese help the Russians
The Indians help the Russians

The BRICS help the Russians.

This is the BRICS map.

They are 50% of the world population.
Actually, more population side with Russia than with the USA, around the world.

>>513269990
AAAARRRGGGHHHH

>>513270124
100500 DAY OF 3 DAY SPECIAL OPERATION!!! RUSSIA IS PATHETIC AND WEAK, NAFO WON ON DAY 4!!!

>>513270124
*snaps fingers* 20 million xyxyls gone too

When will the sanctions be lifted?

>>513268627 (OP)
This is how bad Ukraine's luck has been:
>spends 8 centuries trying to be a country
>stopped by everyone from Mongols to Poles and Austrians
>centuries of being raided and enslaved by Crimean Tartars in the Islamic Black Sea Slave Trade
>crushed by Russian Empire who imposes Russification and restricts their language and culture
>crushed by Soviet Russia who destroys their independence hopes by forced famine (Holodomor) and wipes out 10 million people by starvation
>Moscow settles depopulated eastern regions with Russians
>USSR collapses
>yay we're FINALLY free
>children of re-population Russians big mad
>start chimping out
>Ukraine fights back to safeguard its sovereign territory
>Russkies big big mad
>take Crimea
>invade whole country
>3 years of war, hundreds of thousands of dead
>trillions of dollars in destruction
>Ukraine fighting hard as fuck just to keep the land history would not let them have
>West too scared to take on moscow manlet and his north korean hordes
>dies

>>513269968
wrong
all in all, it's just a jewish civil war for the control of their native khazaria
always has been

DEAL LEAKED
I REPEAT
DEAL LEAKED

> USA and Russia will:
> Respect the signatory's independence and sovereignty in the existing borders (in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act).
> Refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of the signatories to the memorandum, and undertake that none of their weapons will ever be used against these countries, except in cases of self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.
> Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
> Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".

>every war is ww2
>every territorial demand is sudetenland
every westendie is a golem
to be desu

>>513270267
Why does this never say Kiev was built by Russians… well like almost every other major Ukrainian city except a few exceptions

>>513268627 (OP)
nobody is dumb enough to believe anything a russian says at this point. they invaded ukraine in 2022, 2018 and 2014. 3 times all because ukraine wanted to trade with europe.

>>513268627 (OP)
>Russia will get these lands in the next months anyway through force.
With what equipment? With what soldiers?

>>513270267
Many of you personally are scared too to volunteer and to take on Russian soldiers.

>>513268627 (OP)
He knows full well Zelenskii won't agree, no matter how reasonable the proposal is, so specifics don't matter.

>>513270350
exactly right
question is, what happens after Putin? Even that bastard has to die someday. Will his successor be a Gorbachev or another Putin/Medvedev

>>513270150
Are they really siding with Russia? They enjoy the discount on fuels and dump their substandard goods here for we can't complain. That is being used, not supported.

>>513268627 (OP)
Peace can only be achieved once Russia withdraws from Ukraine completely. They stole Crimea in 2014. If they get away with stealing the Donbas now, they’ll continue their military aggression

>>513270350
That is the art of the deal. As long as the hohol on the front line and not you, you can afford to don't trust me. When your life is at stake, you will take any deal to keep it. You will choose red instead of dead.

>>513269287
>Do you also give up a chess game against a stronger opponent as soon as you're down a rook
down a rook? lel more like down a good pawn, did you ever play chess against someone rated over 1700

>>513269968
You call them Jews and nazis in the same breath while two million Russian kikes live in Israel and Putin just used as a justification for not helping Iran when they are supplying Russia with drones, that's why Russia should be wiped off the face of the earth your venemous lies and nigger nature

>>513269827
Russia only invades Nazi-run nations.
Don't be a Nazi and you won't get invaded.

>>513270150
Brown subhumans know a nigger shit hole like Russia, no disagreement here

>>513269226
Russia is losing. They’ve lost a million men and are still stuck in the Donbas

>>513270710
Projection

>>513270645
By that anti-Semitic, racist reasoning and honesty of the politicians, the USA would be the first in line for wiping off the face of the earth.

>>513270710
>democratic country with a Jewish president
>”Nazi-run nation”
You tankies are the biggest retards

>>513269523
>they're just too stupid to extract it themselves
Nigger, Gazprom is invested in dozens of African countries, they're the one teaching them how to extract resources.

>>513269843
lol
lmao even

>>513269896
The hell is you saying nigga

>>513270889
Chabad
Lubavitch

>>513270478
russia seems pretty unstable in my opinion especially considering they had a coup in the middle of the war they started.
>>513270628
i think you are kind of living in world that doesnt exist honestly. your reputation is probably lowest its ever been in history at the moment.

>>513270878
Russia is getting their men slaughtered with their forays into Africa

>>513270710
Sure, buddy.

However, I watch Russian TV and see how easily they label everyone a "Nazi" who disagrees with the government.

Nowadays, if you publicly disagree with the SMO, you can go straignt to prison.

>>513270889
Putin is a self admitted Jew, don't try your kike pilpul on me

>>513270710
>Gladio larpers aka Jewish assets
Ftfy

>>513270809
AIPAC fitst lobbying in its current form is extremely jewish

>>513271171
nafo /pol/tards don't know what gladio is

>>513269719
there still is Europe is dead but so is Russia, all I'm saying is what is needed is for few white men to chimp out to get all the resource's by force from Russia and stop deindustrialization. onky jews, niggers and women stop it from happening.

>>513269057
>>513269070
It's funny that you bring up Austria which was explicitly made a neutral country as part of an agreement between USSR and Eisenhower. And nothing happened to it. It's almost as if western retards can't go a single post without lying or projecting their imperialistic ambitions and diplomatic incompetence while projecting all of their shortcomings onto Russia.

>>513268627 (OP)
>Russia is willing to give a guarantee
russian guarantees are worthless though as is proved by history.

>>513268627 (OP)
Russia owns the entirety of Kherson and Zapohizhia.
So the report in your pic is just NAFO cope.

>>513271171
>>513271215
Tiresome, Russia stronk still fighting that cold war, when in fact you've moved to very successful active measures and your Manchurian candidate, although not as successful as you like lol

>>513270713
Jews are pimping out your children to your politicians to gain leverage over them while your women lust over BBC and dog dick. That is your country

>>513271361
>another anglotrash projecting his foreign policy failures onto others
like clockwork
how's the weather over in london?
I hope no one tried to stab you today

>>513268627 (OP)
>Russia is willing to give a guarantee
lol, said the scorpion, lmao

>>513269226
>you run out of men
>your economy is wrecked
"You"? "Your"?
Nigger, are you blind or are you mentally retarded? That was a german flag and his men will be alive and well while YOU niggers will be dying to drones. His economy will also be fine while YOU niggers will be burning hundreds of billions on weapons.

>>513270085
Russia is as bad as the west when it comes to jews.
>At the initiative of Russian President Vladimir Putin, the Duma (Russian Parliament) has legislated a law outlawing "distorted and/or extremist" commentary of Scriptures.
>The purpose of the unusual law, it is widely understood, is the prevention of cynical advantage being taken of Biblical verses for anti-Semitic purposes.
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/204688

>>513270312
Whats the difference between Sudetenland and this?

>>513271310
The difference is that Austria was occupied by the US, France, the GB and the USSR. All those countries had forces on its territory and withdrew simultaneously. pootin broke at least 5 agreements and treaties so far, and yeah, he'll keep his word this time for sure.

>>513270312
>this time the appeasement will work because it just will, okay?

>>513271437
Projection

>>513270606
KEK when we do it it's colonialism.
When they do it it's stealing.
Not like this bongs.

>>513271002
Yes, retard.
EVERY SIDE OF THIS CONFLICT IS JEWISH

>>513271416
>Russia owns the entirety of Kherson and Zapohizhia.
without actually occupying the cities of Kherson and Zaporizhya and no parts of the two oblasts on the right bank of Dnipro. but sure.

>>513271234
>i want to be hardcore, but jews, niggers and women don't allow me!
if anything, out of any nation it's the ruskis themselves who have highest chance of success to create white ethno-state
and it's still very slim

>>513271710
Where the Epstein files at nigga? Where are they fucking at?

>>513271749
> when we do it
t. Matúš Móric Michal František Serafín August Beňovský

>>513271840
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>513268627 (OP)
It's the best possible deal for both sides. It would be foolish for either side, or for America now trying to broker the peace, not to take this settlement and end the war.

>>513271599
It includes the bible, torah, buddhist writings and koran. It it a part of "freedom to worship" law.

>>513271632
>N-NOO NOT MY AGREEMENTS!
>HOW DARE HE BREAK MUH AGREEMENTS AFTER I TRIED TO SCREW HIM OVER 9001 TIMES SINCE THE END OF COLD WAR?!
This is exactly how you sound like to a rational person. You guys have no self-awareness whatsoever and it's hilarious

>>513271902
if you unironically think that "white rebellion" can realistically happen in england, france, germany or, god forbid, czech republic, you are a fucking retard

>>513269274
Lmao. I wouldn’t lift a finger to even defend my nation. Maybe after a complete purge of the traitorous bunch currently in power. Just seems Russians are a history bound people and Odessa seems a lot more Russian than Königsberg. I favor the pre WW1 borders and think a german/russo alliance to be the best outcome for a peaceful earth.
Why do you kling to Kaliningrad?

So apparently you can just declare war and invade sovereign countries and steal their land like a paradox map painter even in present times as long as you have big sticks

What a pathetic joke international laws are

>>513271824
Just a matter of time. And once Russia crosses the Dnieper again (inb4 2 weeks) what stops it from going to Mykolaiv and then odessa?

>>513271457
when has russia stood by a guarantee that it has given then? educate me wise polack.

>>513272055
good morning, sweety
that's how it always worked

>>513268627 (OP)
>Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country
But I want my country(DDR) to be a part of Дaльнeзaпaдный фeдepaльный oкpyг in Germania oblast

>>513271541
>That was a german flag
Flags don't mean as much as you think they do.

>>513272086
he's not Polish
he's a false flagging pic related

>>513271920
In fact, ending the war on any terms each side can bear to stomach is necessary from a demographic standpoint. Each side, from the start of the war and since much earlier also, has been experiencing a fertility crisis. Ukraine has undergone a demographic implosion since the end of the USSR, with some third or 40% of the population emigrating to other countries even before the war started. During the war, many millions more Ukrainians have fled, including a large portion of the country's young, fertile women, who are the main component of any effort to replenish Ukraine's population.
It certainly looks like Ukraine may now be doomed anyway due to demographic collapse and the unavailability of so many fertile Ukrainian women.
It's likely that Ukraine is set to become just another former European state, another European caliphate like most other European countries will almost assuredly become in the next couple of generations.

>>513272086
Georgia after 2008

>>513271541
Fucking hell, another retard. Have you ever heard of figures of speech by any chance? It is called apostrophe. Obviously, for a non-retard, of course, by you I meant Ukranians.

>>513272177
This war was a boom for Russian demographics, it has given them a few millions more ethnic Russian citizens

>>513272233
>This war was a boom for Russian demographics, it has given them a few millions more ethnic Russian citizens
That may have been Russia's primary motive. Putin is not a fool.

>>513272111
Yeah but the jews told us might makes right was over after WW2 and that all countries had to abide by UN rules and be liberal democracies

>>513269492
They're bringing in niggers and poos anon. They literally can't lose when they've got over 3 billion units of meat

>>513272032
>I favor the pre WW1 borders
The first Kaiser Of Deutsches Kaiserreich Wilhelm I. really tried this to become reality but his successor Wilhelm II. preferred war although the Russian Tsar was his cousin.
European politicians have always been selfish niggers throughout the entire existence of Human civilization

>>513271749
When we colonised the world we significantly improved it. The same can’t be said about Russia’s invasions. Eastern Europe under Soviet Russian domination was miserable

>>513269031
Germany admitted that the last peace accords were just buying time for the maidan regime, I'm not sure Russia's the side that can't be trusted

>>513272316
>The first Kaiser Of Deutsches Kaiserreich Wilhelm I. really tried this to become reality
I referred this to this quote
>>513272032
>and think a german/russo alliance to be the best outcome for a peaceful earth.

>>513272055
All of this is being done under the UN Charter. Just because the media omits this and puts the world upside down to lie about this and just because tries to police the interpretation of the international agreements doesn't mean this isn't the case

>>513272362
tell me more about how you fed the Irish and Indians

>>513272270
No, i believe Putin personally did not want this war, he did the utmost to prevent it to the point of cucking out alot. I believe that one day Putin was pulled into a darker Kremlin and was told by other siloviki and deep state figures that he had to do this or he would get couped. But the main reason was and is NATO expansion. There was a real chance that Russian economy might go down the shitter and cause a exodus of Russians. It was not a given that Russia would be so resilient.

>>513271972
>TRIED TO SCREW HIM OVER 9001 TIMES
and those would be? what the west shoulda done, was to actually disarm russia and break it apart, instead of treating it with kid gloves and giving it all the nukes from Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan.

>>513272362
>When we colonised the world we significantly improved it.
You gave Indians cameras so that they can film themselves getting crushed by trains

No, this is a terrible deal for Ukraine.

1. Donbas is the most fortified territory; fortifications began to be built there when Russia started its ‘covert’ war in Donbas in 2014. If the most fortified areas are handed over, Russia will have an easy path to other territories.

2. Without clear security guarantees, Ukrainians will not see a positive future and will want to migrate, which will create another demographic catastrophe on top of the one that already exists (tens of thousands of soldiers have died, millions of people have migrated).

3. In addition to the second point, without clear security guarantees, no one will want to invest in Ukraine, no one will want to build factories, old companies will not want to return, and Ukrainians who have migrated will not want to return.

4. For all the reasons listed above, Ukraine's elite understands that it will not survive (perhaps not only politically) after signing such a deal, and they also understand that Ukraine itself, as a country and as a nation, will not survive. All of the above points will set in motion irreversible processes that will lead to the collapse of Ukraine and its political nation.

>>513272392
It could be glorious, indeed. You industry and our resources and manpower combined. Not gonna happen, unfortunately.

>>513272233
> This war was a boom for Russian demographics
*broom
But enough about buttsex.

>>513272421
Because of them you drive on the left side of the road which is very gay and retarded

>>513272430
>Putin personally did not want this war, he did the utmost to prevent it
he literally started it and had plans to start it in the early 2000s. no matter how many times you repeat the lies, russia and pootin are to blame for this war.

Xoxol xisters, It's Oyyvir

>>513272457
That is great, no more hoholandia in either case, because if war continues hoholandia will also cease to exist

>>513272457
>Without clear security guarantees
Clear security guarantees can always be discussed and negotiated before anything is signed.
Ukrainian government outright rejects any sort of talk or diplomacy before their "pre-conditions" for negotiations are achieved

>>513272362
>Eastern Europe under Soviet Russian domination was miserable
Especially Donbass region where Russia built their whole industry. Or the previously tribal central asian shitholes where we built actual cities. Or electronic production in Estonia.
Here's a dam built in Afghanistan.

>>513272620
forbidden waterslide

>>513269492
Maybe its like with ammo and money they were supposed to run out in 2 weeks but they still have enough. You snowniggers should go fight for democracy in ukraine send all your men so Sweden can officialy become an islamic republic

No, this is a terrible deal for Ukraine.

1. Donbas is the most fortified territory; fortifications began to be built there when Russia started its ‘covert’ war in Donbas in 2014. If the most fortified areas are handed over, Russia will have an easy path to other territories.

2. Without clear security guarantees, Ukrainians will not see a positive future and will want to migrate, which will create another demographic catastrophe on top of the one that already exists (tens of thousands of soldiers have died, millions of people have migrated).

3. In addition to the second point, without clear security guarantees, no one will want to invest in Ukraine, no one will want to build factories, old companies will not want to return, and Ukrainians who have migrated will not want to return.

4. For all the reasons listed above, Ukraine's elite understands that it will not survive (perhaps not only politically) after signing such a deal, and they also understand that Ukraine itself, as a country and as a nation, will not survive. All of the above points will set in motion irreversible processes that will lead to the collapse of Ukraine and its political nation.

>>513270267
>crushed by Russian Empire who imposes Russification and restricts their language and culture
Ukraine didn't really exist at this point. Ukrainian "Culture" as we accept it today was a tiny sliver of essentially Polish-Lithuanian Galicians in Ruthenia. Realistically, these people have more in common with Poland (and frankly should have joined Poland) than the rest of the lands of Ukraine.
>crushed by Soviet Russia who destroys their independence hopes by forced famine (Holodomor) and wipes out 10 million people by starvation
Ukraine literally was a founding member of the USSR. The reality is it had no "Nationalist" hopes without joining the Soviet Union. "Russification" was not largely forced, but a bottom up affair, like how Australians up until the early 1970s used to LARP as British
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zb8yLammA0
> forced famine (Holodomor) and wipes out 10 million people by starvation
Literally debunked narrative it was forced and it definitely did not wipe out 10 million. It was caused by wheat rust due to too much rain.
>Moscow settles depopulated eastern regions with Russians
Donbass and such were literally not even historically part of Ukraine, but Russia. most of Ukraine was basically gifted by Lenin then Stalin then Khrushchev.

>>513272544
>he literally started it
Yes, he is the head of state of the nation that "started" it, so he did start it. But i'm just speculating a bit. I think Putin personally wanted to avoid it, he is too westophile, he signed 2 bad deals with Ukraine in 2014-2015 when many in the deep state were calling for a invasion, and back then the Kiev in 2 weeks was probably true.

>>513269492
>isnt K/D ratio 14 russians to 1 ukrainian? At this rate russia will run out of meat

>biggest killer in modern warfare is artillery
>multiple sources report that for every shell Ukraine fires, Russia fires 15-20
>still believe that Ukraine is maintaining a 14:1 K/D

>>513268627 (OP)
I love Russia and want to ally with then against globohomo I think this deal doesn't give enough land to Russia and any deal should include the head of that rat zelensky on a stick

>>513269492
Why would that matter? Russians are importing millions of indians, arabs and africans to fight for them

>>513272723
Did you learn history from Russian school textbooks?

>>513269523
Resources arent easy to extract you amerimutts buy them from Russia even when you have a lot of your own, Russians do this hard work cheaply 90% amerimutts arent really capable of doing much hard work unless its bombing arabs, banking cons or gay/bestiality porn who will you send to extract resources niggers and jeets ?

>>513268627 (OP)
>in the next months
yeah sure, in the next 56 months maybe

>>513272086
The burden of proof is on you, angloshit. You're the one claiming Russia violates all of its agreements while it is you, in fact, who's pushing for NATO expansion since the 90s despite clear guarantees you have to Russia back then. There were plenty of conflicts between NATO and USSR / Russia which were resolved diplomatically, like >>513272182, the INF treaty (until you decided to circumvent it) or START, which is currently going to shit after US sent nukes back to UK and is now engaging in a proxy war on Russia's borders.

>>513272146
spierdalaj do okopów banderaszku

>>513272620
Remind me, did people flee to eastern Europe of western Europe?

nato trannies....

>>513272939
*or western Europe

>>513272758
There is plenty of meat in the big Russian cities west of the Ural. If they somehow managed to mobilize them, Ukraine would be absorbed within days.

I always wonder why they haven't done it and fight with prisoners and far eastern Mongolian "volunteers" and North Koreans. Either they underestimated western support or they are paranoid of a potential NATO invasion in Baltic and Karelian regions.

>>513269809
Or the US will send more cannon fodder from their vassal banana republics and junk for you to burn down.

I don't want to be responsible for slavs dying but now that this war is set in motion, russian mir has to be rebuilt.

It will have to be judaized. Russians will acknowledge that judaism is the correct religion and they will become slaves of the zionist jews.

Russians will be a slave race used by jews to conquer the world. Russian mir will be an island of stability and peace while the whole west is flooded with shitskin immigrants and goes into decline.

Remember, publicly profess belief in jesus. In private, know that jesus was evil and he subverted the jews, and the jews lost because they were racially niggers (literally negroid).

Nato literally won this war. We get new members, rearmed our military. Ziggers lost their entire stock of Soviet weaponry and 1m young males.
Nato fuckig won, no one cares about Slav niggers from Ukraine or their borders with ziggers

>>513272939
Some people also want to chop their dicks off. Doesn't mean it's a good idea.

>>513272844
No, these are all factual. Modern Ukrainian nationalism is a manufactured identity that comes from Galician nationalist movements.
https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.3138/9781442682252
Ukraine was absolutely a founding member of the USSR, and Ukrainian elites at the time largely sided with Lenin, how is this indisputiable?
The Holodomor is absolutely a myth. The opening of the Soviet archives absolutely debunked any "deliberate" famine narrative and the famine was mostly caused by wheat rust. Regions of Russia, and Central Asia were far harder hit than Ukraine as well. The Holodomor narrative was literally shit out of Ukrainian paperclip communities to Anti-Communist crusaders like Robert Conquest. Conquest himself though conceeded eventually (as well as Kotkin etc) that no intentional famine or genocide occured when the archives were opened.
Regions like the Donbass etc literally were never part of ""historical Ukraine"", and the fact the Soviet's "gifted" these regions is absolute fact.

>>513272723
do your own lies make you feel comfy in your ugly skin, pidor?
>Ukrainian "Culture" as we accept it today was a tiny sliver of essentially Polish-Lithuanian Galicians in Ruthenia.
The Ukrainian language and culture are literally based on the central Ukraine's Poltava region.

you just don't know anything about Ukraine and regurgitate russian imperialist bullshit.

>>513273027

UH OH >>513272945

>>513272871
Literally this is the reason why we let niggers, bugs and their children to extract these ores with highly toxic chemicals and hard labour instead of mining them ourselves in Scandinavia or Greenland

>>513270267
Ukraine spend only the last 60 years trying to be a country
Hohols usually did the raiding
Hohols started this war by mass murdering thousands of their own who had russian ancestry and bombing their own territories for years before Pucia went in

>>513272440
>If you don’t conform to my exacting expectations of your place is MY global system I will destroy your entire country and enslave you
Truly, the greatest argument for the rightness and reasonableness of American foreign policy.

>>513272982
The goal is to cause as little shock to the Russian society as possible. Putin main concern is to maintain economic and political stability, not prosecuting this war.
>and fight with prisoners and far eastern Mongolian "volunteers"
Russians don't care if some low life prisioner gets killed, and those mongols are just poor people who sign up for the money. It is much different if the one dying was a 19 year old conscript dying.
>North Koreans.
It was a bone thrown at Kim, he wanted his troops to get combat experience in modern war, and he wanted to cement his alliance with Russia. Russia never needed the North Korean troops, but it wont say no. What nation at war would say no to help?

>>513268627 (OP)
When, oh when will it finally sink in (yes, even here) that Trump achieves absolutely nothing—except handing out free gifts to Putin?

PR, the Red Carpet, the honor, the privilege of speaking first, not a single one of Trump’s “demands” met, Putin once again buying himself time, striding back to Russia in triumph, Lavrov showing up in Anchorage in an in your face CCCP T-shirt—Trump’s utter failure, Putin’s total victory.

And yet Trump always gets the benefit of the doubt. I honestly can’t make sense of it. He can’t do a thing, keeps shooting himself in the foot, hands Ukraine over to Russia on a silver platter, squanders every bit of leverage he has.

So WHAT did Putin say in those 15 minutes together in The Beast? Trump emerged meek as a lamb. Did Putin have something—some leverage, a threat? Epstein? Dirt on Melania? Shady deals? You can’t help but think: this can’t just be coincidence anymore.

Unless you accept the other explanation: that Trump is an extraordinarily easy-to-manipulate figure who, with a little flattery and the promise of fame, prestige, and the world’s attention, is genuinely ready to throw away every single condition.

The USA has been played. Witkoff the golf buddy, the clueless Trump loyalists—completely duped by a ruthlessly well-prepared Russian delegation.

>>513273074
>The Ukrainian language and culture are literally based on the central Ukraine's Poltava region
Modern Ukrainian Nationalism is entirely based on asslicking Galician sociopathy in Ruthenia.
>>513273074
>you just don't know anything about Ukraine and regurgitate russian imperialist bullshit.
"Nooo my Holodomor, just ignore all the actual archival and documented evidence that debunks my Fascist paperclipped narrative noooooo, Nooo most Ukrainians hated the USSR, which is why it had the highest support for the USSR in the population and made up much of the Soviet elite but just ignore that noooooooo"
Typical paperclipped faggot. Go shove another monument to the SS in another US or Canadian city while claiming the SS stands for secret sauce.

>>513271137
Thats war in Ukraine everybody who publicystyka isnt a nazi is murdered, even here in Poorland people who criticize hohol nazis ,who mostly killed and want to kill Poles and nw Russians, is called a soviet lover or Putin lackey and can go to prison

>>513273191
Copy and paste shill
>>513271614

>>513269031
40 year old wine aunt who gets all her information from facebook take

>>513269287
>Do you also give up a chess game against a stronger opponent as soon as you're down a rook?
without extreme compensation or flag about to fall? yes.

>>513273074
Ukrainian language is a mostly manufactured entity based on some obscure border dialect/pidgin.

>>513273279
Stop begging and spamming in another thread, you cunt.

>>513273303
> gets all her information from facebook
unlike you tech savvy zoomer who gets his secret inside scoop from the totally indpendent war expert known only zZzPobeda1337

>>513273187
>The goal is to cause as little shock to the Russian society as possible.
Russia is and always has been an authoritarian Dictatorship. Uproars have always been crushed. The only reason the October revolution 1917 succeeded because the Tsar regime was weakened after the war with German empire and Germany actively financed and helped the communists to get into power.

>>513269287
They should give up after losing over 2 million men versus 150k Russian dead, not to mention the loss of almost all strongholds in Dumbass

>>513269492
Latest figures is 16 to 1 and you are a chud and antisemite and probably not fully vaxed if you don't believe it

>>513272365
Krauts have always been traitors working for Russia/USSR and there's no "maiden regime" you dumb fuck.

>>513273378
Even if the uprising could be crushed, it is always beneficial for rulers to avoid uprisings and societal instability. If there was alot of societal instability, Prigozhin putsch might have succeeded. You have a very marvel like view of the world, you seem to think only the good guys (democracies) care about people wills, while the bad guys (not democracies) just do evil things against people wishes because they feel like. Real life is not like that.

You can argue Putin approach was wrong, and going total war from the get go was the right approach, and i'm not sure if it wouldn't be better. I'm just telling you what Putin goal is, according to what i see.

>>513272362
yeah russia really destroyed crimea by pouring billions of rubles into it

>>513272871
The truth is Russians aren't smart enough to do extraction in house, even if they were gifted the equipment someone with the technical expertise would need to be brought in to run the operation, Russians are truly nigger like monkeys with hammers
All russians are moderately good at is these pointless histrionic lessons where lie and try to justify their nigger chimp puts by ascribing no existent motives and actions to their head Cannon Boogeyman they create to deflect from their eternal niggerdom existence

>>513268627 (OP)
>Russia is willing to give a guarantee

Worth their weight in gold!

>>513269201
>Would the Russian people be prepared to scede Königsberg(to Germany cuz fuck poland) to get Odessa?
No but I think they'd be ok with restoring borders to pic related

>>513269492
You got it backwards lol, don't check the Ukranian graveyards, wich indicate no less than 1.9 million dead or the corpse exchanges LMAO

>>513268627 (OP)
>Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine
There already was a guarantee like that. They don't give a fuck, they'll say Ukraine is fascist again or some shit like that in 2035 and start again.

>>513269057
It's more like Himmler trying to make a peace deal with Britain during the Battle of the Seelow Heights. Zelensky's chilling in the fuhrerbunker like we'll turn this ship around any day now, meanwhile a million savages are about to pour in and rape and pillage what little you have left. The Chamberlain moments were all done by Bush and Obama.

>>513273358
>muh putin
He's been losing the war for ten years now. He will probably stop their nato-membership and take a lot of areas to the east. Talk about losing lmao

>>513272200
>n-n-no, I m-meant t-t-that...
I have been on this board long enough, and I have seen thousands of russian flags like you. You fags always use "you" not as some figure of speech, but because in your tiny minds you think that you are fighting against the whole world. And you retards genuinely believe that somehow wasting russian and ukrainian lives will make people from other countries upset.

>>513268627 (OP)
>believing Russian guarantees

>>513269274
>But you are always welcome to come and try to take it
jews literally killed your zar and took your whole nation in what know as the (((Russian revolution))) today
dont get too cocky Ivan

>>513272758
>biggest killer in modern warfare is artillery
How is it being stuck in 2022?
Bro, buy bitcoin, the price will go 7x by 2025.

>>513273765
So far, only westcucks came out as unreliable. Merkel said that they never planned to abide to Minsk agreements.
What's the point of believing yuros at this point? Their word, even written, means nothing.

>>513270749

If any of that were true they would jump on the first deal offered to them.

Obviously Russia is not interested in an off-ramp because they think things are moving in their favor.

>>513268627 (OP)
This is very generous towards Hohlostan, but it doesn't matter since Reuters is lying

>>513269523
Idk why everyone's sucking ruzzian dick. This is true. They're savages.

>>513269487
You were doing fine until you mentioned GPT. These AIs (in the 70 IQ range) play with like 1600 ELO strength.

>>513268627 (OP)
>Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country

lol

russians guarantee aren't worth shit, everyone knows russians lie, it's culturally ingrained in them.

in future they will just make up some bullshit about ukraine still being run by nazi's or how they violated a military agreement by manufacturing 1 bullet and re-invade.

They already know in future no one is going to back ukraine up militarily with troops and they know they can't get sanctioned anymore so why do they need to actually promise anything, they know they don't

>>513273727
Putin's dream was to capture A LOT of lands and get into history by restoring the Russian empire or the USSR. You think getting 1 million casualties for a >1% increase in territory is some grand victory? And lets not forget that has happened yet, literally everyone in the West (excluding the orange retard) treats him like a pariah and war criminal and doesn't recognize his conquest.

>>513273854
>Merkel said that they never planned to abide to Minsk agreements.

Proofs?

And yeah we also know how reliable Putin and Russia is!

>>513273522
>Krauts have always been traitors
It's easier to make business with people that did not constantly try to conquer is

>>513273854
>t. only having a military exercise near the Ukrainian border, after that they will return and LE WECT will claim strategic and diplomatic victory
>3.5 years later hundreds of thousands of russian able bodied men crippled, killed or raped during their trench service

>>513273317
>Ukrainian language is a mostly manufactured entity
literally more archaic and organic than the fake russian language, whose father is Pushkin (descendant of an african servant to Peter 1st). Pushkin modeled and based his creation on the French, heavily borrowing from the French literary style. The russian language is heavily permeated by the words borrowed from the Turkic and European languages such as German, Dutch, English and French. There were at least 30,000 foreign/borrowed words in the russian language in the 1860s already, now it's probably twice that many.

>>513272457
The time for good deals has passed.
Ukraine's options are now either terrible or disastrous.

>>513268627 (OP)

> Looks like Russia is willing to give a guarantee to not invade the rest of Ukraine in the future or any other European country.

Trust but verify.

Russia should agree to a DMZ with UN troops like Korea, between the new Russia Ukraine border after they’ve annexed those provinces. If they have no plans to invaded anymore it shouldn’t be a big deal.

>>513273908
>Idk why everyone's sucking ruzzian dick. This is true. They're savages.
Because they're good at flooding the Internet space with propaganda and buying off journalists and public figures to spread their lies. By the time someone reacts their idiotic lies have been read by everybody and the retards believe them.

>>513268627 (OP)
Didn't Russia guarantee they wouldn't invade in 2014?

>>513273561
>You have a very marvel like view of the world, you seem to think only the good guys (democracies) care about people wills, while the bad guys (not democracies) just do evil things against people wishes because they feel like. Real life is not like that.
Well no I think only Dictatorships care about their people because democracy creates to much chaos and people are too busy arguing with each other instead of doing science. Germany was at its peak during Monarchy and dictatorship times.
Authoritarian rulers are like conservative parents that give the children a slap when they think they can speak up and bring them back in track whereas democracies are like no parents at all where the children do not have guidance, no values, no goals, no family bond(Volksgemeinschaft)

>>513274250
their fake "guarantees" started in the early 1990s all the way to 2004.

>>513274183
Nigger, nahr'uk was literally made up by soviet kikes in 19xx to be different from Russian

>>513274250
that guarantee required ukraine to follow certain agreements which it broke.

you know that. I know that. You know that I know that. I know that you know that I know that you know that.

and yet you play dumb as you always do.

>>513274390
>Authoritarian rulers are like conservative parents that give the children a slap when they think they can speak up and bring them back in track
Except that in some dictatorships the "parent" would have no problem sending you to die in a war so he can larp as a great liberator/conqueror.

>>513268627 (OP)
>Just give up your main defensive cities, goy!

>>513268627 (OP)
No. Send in the bong and french troops to help ukraine. Was it just empty words and smoke out the ass for the past 4 years? They said they are ready to send them, so send them.

we should not negotiate with brain dead nafo cattle.

we should finish them off and then track every nafo nigger down and remove them from the gene pool.

>>513272758
but trump said it!
hohols and liberals hate trump with every single fiber of their being and claim that everything he says is a lie

but his "14:1" tweet alone is god's irrefutable truth

>>513273854
>drops the ball on Armenia
>drops the ball on Iran
>drops the ball on Syria
>what is Budapest Memorandum
>"Crimea is not a disputed territory"
>"Don't let people think we want more than Crimea"
>muh military exercises
>I won't mobilise 18 year olds
>raises retirement age over life expectancy
>money that was supposed to bribe the Ukrainian military to fold bought yachts and villas in the French Riviera because no rank thought monke was so retarded
Ah yes, the land of trust, reliability and rule of law

>>513274148
https://www.reuters.com/world/putin-russia-may-have-make-ukraine-deal-one-day-partners-cheated-past-2022-12-09/

>>513274702
you feel safe there now but we are already working on tracking you niggers down.

yesterday the order was signed.
we will make sure all of you will be dead by the end of this year.

>>513274183
>organic
lel

>>513274782
cool, can't wait to see you in a drone video

>>513274782
>nigger using nigger threats uses nigger as an insult
Oh no the pidorussians are after gaelanon!

>>513274617
lmao, we're waiting.

>>513269024
You would think Germans out of anyone would understand the concept of unfavorable peace treaty after getting rekt on the battlefield...

>>513274183
you would be shocked to learn that English has over 10.000 words from norse language alone. If there's one language that's artificial it's english

>>513269050
>>513269092
Lol that's because you couldn't take it.

>>513272233
Sure, sure, that's why they suddenly have to import a few million jeets and Africans, right?

>>513272430
"Putin was an innocent baby tricked by his advisors" is certainly a fresh and bizarre cope though immediately switching back to "muh NATO expansion" spoils it.

>>513274513
>made up by soviet kikes in 19xx
kek, the first edition of Kotlyarevsky's "Eneida" was published in 1798, with the Ukrainian-russian dictionary in the back, to help you pidors with the unfamiliar Ukrainian words. But the first Ukrainian dictionary was actually published in 1627, by Pamvo Berindy. The dictionary contains about 7 thousand words: common and proper names, mainly of the Church Slavonic language of the time, with their translation and interpretation in the Ukrainian literary language of the early 17th century.

>>513274955
Germany lost 2 million in WW1 while having a population of 68 million, Ukraine has lost million men while having a population of 20 million or so, trust me, it is not the same, you should make peace at 10% pop loss

>>513275251
*Ukraine has lost 2 million men

>>513271433
Essentially yes given how nafo and glowniggers need a new tankie strawman to spite le right wing

>>513273739
You are an idiot
Look at the post I was replying to
>>513269024
Did the German speak on his own behalf?
- No. Only a retard wouldn’t recognize that he was using the figure of speech called a persona
Then I replied to the persona the German was impersonating
How do you live with this level of stupidity?

>>513271437

Karl Marx was a kike too you stupid commie fuck. He was one of the Jews you speak of

>Muh History

Russians are always using history but never learning from it. What gives?

>>513268627 (OP)
>bro just give up your fortress belt that we havent even come close to conquering after three years hahaa, we pinky promise we wont invade the rest of ukraine later
You'd have to be a complete retard to think thats a good deal

>>513274584
They really shouldn't, yeah. Because this will halt the total hohol genocide, which is not good.

They already have lowest birthrates in the world and half of their women abroad. I want to see more of these videos:

https://files.catbox.moe/p6dr08.mp4

Until hohols are completely buck broken, morally and demographically. This will be a good lesson for other niggers around us what happens if they'll fuck around.

>>513275373
Nah
>play it cool with the Europeans
>they come for your throat
It’s shrimple. Go for the throat and build nukes so niggers from alphabet agencies don’t have a lot of fantasy material to tether to

>>513274852
>>513274941
>>513274948
I can't wait to read your screeching after one of you fall out a window for whatever reason.

denazification won't be over until all of you dead. one by one.

>>513275218
>was actually published in 1627, by Pamvo Berindy.

interesting. May we know what it was called? >Лeкciкoнъ cлaвeнopωccкїй
>Lexicon slavo-russian
ohnonono delet this

>>513274785
>>organic
in the 1920s it was the policy of the soviet government throughout ALL soviet ethnic republics, pidor. Nothing unique to Ukraine, due to the russification in the previous couple hundred years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronology_of_Ukrainian_language_suppression
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korenizatsiia

>>513275457
Yeah because Russia dindu nuffin just ebil Russophobia!

>>513274948
>we
which 1 is you?

>>513275218
>imagionary language struggles
Who cares? You could issue a gnome language vocabulary and hell it might even gain some fame among Tollkienfags, netting you a bag of guldens

>>513275481
You’re talking to a chabbot generated response bro so think twice before putting any effort

>>513275515
It's crazy how Europe wants Ukraine to depopulate itself vs how Russians just wanted Ukraine to demilitarize and chill, absolute clownworld

>>513275515
>what is nafo summit 2005/2008
>what do you mean cia funded ukranny resistance movements since Cold War
Yawn

>>513270267
Shouldn't have attacked Poland over "muh joooooos". Blame their current state on Khmelnitsky.

>>513275485
>we were le heccin oppressid!!!
>mykola mutters as his grandfather was allowed to speak and use ukranny dialect of Russian freely

>>513275471
Who convinced you that's what you want?

>>513270267
Damn, what fantasy novel you got that from?

>>513275485
why is this brave patriot all the way in niggerland? why did he abandon his family back home?

>>513275218
>Kotlyarevsky
Lmao, Is this what piggers tell nafgroids? Nobody cares what literally who freaks write about a local dialect of one and a half villages that has nothing in common with the modern nhr'uk.

>>513275423
>fortress belt

>mentions on /pol/: 23
>most of them unrelated (e.g. "team fortress belt" mentioned in 2016).
>almost half of the hits are from this week
I see you lot have finally received the revised metodichka for Q3'25.

>>513274988
>10.000 words from norse language alone
the British isles were invaded and occupied by the Norse and others over a millennium ago. They stayed and integrated into the population organically. The russian borrowed words (especially the European origin) were forced down from the nobility (of foreign origin) to the lower classes from the 18th century on.

>>513275711
Nigga the biggest kike of them all somehow never makes it to these pictures. I wonder why

>>513275485
Yes, soviet subhuman jews tried to eradicate "Russian chauvinism" because they hated Russians. They are doing the same in USA right now (and against whites in other countries).
But hohols weren't alone to be blessed by commie grace in this regard, that's right.

Problem is Trump is an idiot with no power.

>>513275835
Is this a low iq bait? Yes it is I believe. Great Britain was occupied by Normans, Saxons and whoever else and this is how their words were forced down on Brits and Celts. Get fuuuuucked fucked, illiterate negro

>>513268627 (OP)
It’s not a good deal. It is, however, the only deal they’re likely to get.

>>513275481
>Лeкciкoнъ cлaвeнopωccкїй
there were literally no "russians" or "russia" in the early 17th century, pidor.

>>513275944
Holy shit, room temperature negro

>>513276014
*room temperature iq

>>513275944
Then the Russians appeared out of this air
Dumb nigger pig who escaped to the USA from his shithole lmao

>>513275835
>They stayed and integrated into the population organically
Lmao. Original english wasn't used at all by higher classes, they spoke french and at some extent, german. English survived and found it's way back through extreme simplification and thus utility.

>>513275471
>denazification
Have NEVER seen a definition of Nazism from you retard fucks. Your botposting is completely and utterly allergic to logic. Sad.

>>513268627 (OP)
Neutral third party here. I like this deal. It's the best Ukrainians can hope for.

>>513268627 (OP)
russia wants hegemony over all of ukraine not just the east thats the dirty secret the putin explainers omit

>>513275928
>Great Britain was occupied
what's your excuse for tens of thousands of foreing words the the "russian" language, pidor? You were never occupied by the British, Duch, French or Germans. Are you just too dumb to have your own words for the very basic notions such as months of the year?

>>513272945
>>513273078
Lol, you REALLY wanna play that game?
I don't even save that much compared to /ugh/ regulars but I got tons

>>513273151
The Russian leader of the "separatists" disagrees, saying HE "pulled the trigger" on the war when he lead Russian forces in to pose as rebels and set up operations in apartments.
That without him, the "genocide" would have ended with just a few dozen people arrested.

>>513276121
>Then the Russians appeared
pretty much, by Peter's decree.

>>513275830
People invent buzzword shit all the time.
Fact of the matter is: these cities have been the command hubs of the war since 2014. Every soldier out there has passed through them.

>>513276206
>Serbians ok'ing away loss of territory
kek, has there ever been such a cucked nation?

>>513268627 (OP)
Russia wants every country to acknowledge those lands are Russian clay.
It must be fucking embarassing to go on google maps and see dotted lines around territories you claim are yours (see Crimea).

>>513276317
>kek, has there ever been such a cucked nation?
It just happens so you're replying from one.

>>513273187
>The goal is to cause as little shock to the Russian society as possible. Putin main concern is to maintain economic and political stability
Well they failed on THAT front lol

>>513276368
Enjoy Kosovo, Respublika Srpska, and Montenegro. You're too faggy to do anything about this, lmao.

>>513276423
Brother you're patritioned every other weekend chill.

>>513273187
>if the one dying was a 19 year old conscript dying
Imagine!

>>513276333
russia doesn't want those banan, they want a puppet in kiev as they did before the aims are not as modest as third worldist claimed

they disagree fundamentally with ukraines sovereignity
russia signed treaties vowing that ukraine would have their territorial integrity protected

we can raise pragmatic arguments why such things don't mean much but it doesn't change that russia can't be trusted

Didn't Ukrainians massacre droves of Poles? Kinda crazy they simp for them so hard.
Zero survival instincts: the people.

>>513276407
That's for sandwiches, I guess?

>>513276569
Didn't Germany also kill tons of French, English, Americans etc. but now they're friends? People can move past from the past and settle differences unlike you ziggers.

>>513275840
Golems do not question

>>513276569
Imagine still simmering over, kek.

>>513276644
germany has a right to exist

>>513268627 (OP)
wouldn't Putin like to be happier ?

>>513276644
Nobody moved past and settled differences, Germany was razed to the ground and occupied by the US troops (the west part we're talking about, which modern Germany came from), and brainwashed like no tomorrow.
The remaining nazis shut their mouth.
>>513276702
Once Ukrainians lose this war what do you think they'll do? They'll blame Poland for not supporting Ukraine hard enough and kill you on the streets.

>>513276286
>People invent buzzword shit all the time.
Same goes to inventing fresh copes and memoryholing uncomfortable notions.
Fret not though, when the time comes, these towns will become strategically unimportant.

To think that the day would come when western Europe has become jeetified enough to say that a 10% population loss is no biggie, shame they don't have jeet birthrates KEK they are truly a death cult

By the way, I am not looking forward to any of it. I wish all the best to so-called Ukraine and so-called Poland (NATO economic zones).

>>513276780
Yeah, probably. What's the cost going to be, though? These are going to be VERY expensive cities to take.
It's fucking glorious watching the kill counts rack up without wasting a life, kek.

>>513268627 (OP)
Obviously nobody is dumb enough to repeat the Munich Agreement.

>>513274617
Let us know if you have anyone left if you ever finish off just Ukraine lol

>>513275471
>fall out a window for whatever reason
It's hilarious how much you must always project.
That's what Putin does to his own people to free up funds.

>>513268627 (OP)
guaranteed is nothing. the americans are playing sick games starting this conflict but what else is there to play for sick people, other than sick games.

>>513276895
This is not the Munich agreement. I can't recall any historical moment identical to this one.
Also, Americans will decide on what is good or not. Serious countries (America, China, Russia) don't invite manchildren to meetings.
Imagine if Poles were present in some of these meetings. Yes, I can't imagine either.

>>513276592
Yeah, who need "luxury" WHITE bread every day?!

>>513276733
My parents say times were comfier back then, life was way less stressful and more joyful. Only shitty thing was that you were shot when you wanted to leave

>>513275928
no he means it's ok to use loanwords but only if your women got raped organically too

>>513276822
>Blah blah blah jeets
Ironic.

>>513276945
What's wrong with bonking treacherous oligarchs?

>>513276945
>@bayraktar_1love
Do niggers really?

>>513276780
why did you violate your signed treaty ensuring ukraines territorial integrity and violated the molotov ribbentrop pact by taking lithuania?

>>513277012
Not sure why do you deem it as luxury.

>>513269523
>they're just too stupid to extract it themselves
They know very well how to extract them, how do you think they're extracting everything they have? The problem is in location. Those resources are in the bumfuck nowhere with no people living there or any infrastructure in place. Starting up that extraction, building everything for refinement nearby + transportation and finding appropriate workforce who would just move and stay there with zero civilization around them is the problem. Starting up the process is unimaginably expensive, that's why putin even recently, during the conflict that US themselves had a hand in starting, said that he's more than open to even US investors to start a joint process.

>>513277012
This is why you'll lose the war. You can't win against the armed Slavic horde that considers white bread a luxury.
Time to make some territorial concessions.

>>513277012
I wonder if amerimutts are sold normal bread or if they only eat toast slop?

>>513277093
Most of them don't seem all that treasonous while suckling from Putin's teat until they realize they're the next fattened pig up for slaughter, via window express elevator or back-of-the-head-shot "murder suicide" for their whole family.
Like, ol' prigo really seemed to trust Putin right up till the end.

>>513276855
>Yeah, probably.
At least you're being honest on the hypocrisy.
> These are going to be VERY expensive cities to take.
Debatable considering how desperate the UAF's situation has been getting in that sector and considering all 3 towns are located in valleys. This way the towns are actually easier to take than they are to hold, until both sides of the valley are under control. If RuAf aren't pressed for time they'll just take the western hillside (which also has fewer entrenchments compared to the east one) first.

>It's fucking glorious watching the kill counts rack up without wasting a life, kek.
Oh I'm pretty sure there's casualties on both sides, idk what you're on about.

>>513277165
I did nothing of the sort.

>>513277187
It's not me, it's the coping Russian in the pic calling it luxury.
But projection is one of the few copes you have to rotate through.

>>513268789
Russia is fighting to try and stop the US from monopolising all of those resources. That's why the US overthrew the Ukrainian government in 2014 and installed someone more sympathetic to NATO. That's why Hunter Biden was on the board of a Ukrainian energy firm.

>>513271632
Pointing out agreements that Russia has broken as if the US hasn't broken any is ridiculous.

>>513277804
>Usa flag
>It's da ruz, trust me
Nigger in shambles

>>513272692
What if you can join NATO, and have total sovereignty (I.e. no de-nazification)? The war would have moved what is left of Ukraine out from under the thumb of Russia forever.

>>513277334
Bitch we're not even fighting this war.
We're donating our leftover bombs to kill ziggers in ever more hilarious ways even without trump being all-in.
Hell, we're gonna start selling weapons, paid for with seized Russian assets, incentivising it even more for us.

>>513272813
Honestly, if jeets, arabs, and africans start being fed into the Donbas meat grinder I'll switch to supporting Zelensky and prolonging the war.

>>513277804
I still remember the great egg peremoga, when fluctuation of egg prices was designated as the first sign of total economy collapse. What a fucking retards.

>>513277968
>Bitch we're not even fighting this war.
Of course you're not, Russia is a nuclear power.
It's time to wrap up this war. If you don't accept the peace deal with Alaska, Ukrainians are going to lose more people and regions.
Why do you use them as a condom? Are you even a little bit human?

>>513277362
>toast slop
...you DO realize toast is just... TOASTED bread, right?
Like you cut, or if pre-sliced take, a slice, or however many you want, of bread and put it in a toaster or toaster-oven to heat up if that's your preference.
Are toasters unknown decadent western tech that turns bread into "slop" to russians?
I guess this is more your preferred "cuisine".

>>513277690
>Oh I'm pretty sure there's casualties on both sides, idk what you're on about.
Not too many Polish armed forces being killed out there, lmao.

Cheapest war ever. Fucking glorious. 2 for the price of 1.

>>513277939
>Actual Russians saying how bad things are don't count if anyone but Russians post it... and if it is Russians posting they're traitors!
Lol nigger

>>513278277
American toast bread isn't really what most of the world would consider bread. Sure you can make toast out of real bread too but looking at the sales figures you clearly don't.

>>513278401
Aha, so not only you don't value Ukrainian lives one bit but are also fine with Russians absorbing the remainder of Ukrainian population AND their lands. Weird.
Would've been more fun with regular Polish forces in there, but again the moment the caskets started flowing in the famous 1000:20 body exhanges, Polish politicians would face certain difficulties at home. Thus, for now it's just "mercs".

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>>513278458
Russia's biggest problem is that Russian people themselves are very poorly behaved. The guy is kinda right honestly, Russians are probably the closest thing to white niggers. Impulsive, prone to violence, and will hold blood grudges over the pettiest things.

>>513278576
The Dnipro will be the new Polish border.

>>513278166
14:1
Putin can fuck off back to Russia and stop making purposefully bad-faith demands at any point.

>>513278676
>14:1
Let's be honest, this is stupid, no one thinks this is happening, not even you.
It's Ukrainians that have draft on the streets for 3 years and it's Russians that have all the firepower, matched only in drones by Ukrainians.
This is nothing to brag about though. It's sad you pushed them into this slaughter. Browse a bit less Reddit.

>>513278673
*Dniepr.
That's more like it — better than the current situation anyway. Ukraine is an artificial entity that deserves being abolished.
If it comes to Poles rolling in to grab what they can though, Odessa and Kiev will be out of question for them. Sorry, no Black sea access for you.