Thread 513282501

Is Hamas actually a terrorist organization and are all the alleged atrocities committed by them actually true or is it just Zionist propaganda?

>>513282501 (OP)
Their "atrocities" involve killing Jews so who cares?

>>513282501 (OP)
Yes.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2016/04/25/israel/palestine-hamas-bus-bombing-targets-civilians

>muhtrocities
They are fake, they deserved it and it will happen again.

>>513282619
You sure?
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-7-2011-006179_EN.html

>>513282501 (OP)
Yes, and no.
They deserve each other.
Let them wipe themselves out.

>>513282501 (OP)
It’s weird because HAMAS was founded by Yitzak Rebin in 1993 to undermine Arafat’s secular PLO.

>>513282501 (OP)
Why would you trust the Israeli government’s opinion on anything?

>>513282833
It was to cute the high human capital christians like george habash off from the low iq sunnis

Both sides are terrorists...let them kill each other to the last,it's the best for everyone if they are all wiped out...Jews and Muslims got to go...

>>513282501 (OP)
Hamas is real, and financed by Netanyahu's government, so more like a false flag

>>513282501 (OP)
Fire rockets into Israel for twenty years and constant terror attacks
Commit mass rape and slaughter on Oct 7th
Finally get to the find out phase for fucking around for so long
Act like niggers and pretend you didn't do anything wrong

>>513282501 (OP)
>Is Hamas actually a terrorist organization
It's forbidden by law to say they aren't here. And be sure the counter terrorist cops will burst your door and you'll get send to jail waiting until the end of the investigation. Then you'll be release after a year, without trial or anything and you'll be placed on the terrorist watch list. Many such cases. So if you ask me "Is Hamas actually a terrorist organization" the correct reply is YES.

>>513283203
He said that because the Eu and america was demanding funds be transferred to gaza anyway. He had to sell it as based and zionist pilled to his underlings

>>513283224
Pot, meet kettle

Well they usually take credit and praise those atrocities so yes

>>513283224
>omits all the shit Israel did to Palestinians beforehand and pretends history began on Oct 7th
A classic.

>>513283421
Ok but terrorism is good actually whenever the side I cheerlead for online does it.

>>513283371
Lol, everything is a "massacre" sand niggers are so histrionic.

>>513282501 (OP)
Yes they are a terrorist organization and commit acts of violence.

Not even a tenth of the atrocities ascribed to them are real. Which is still a pretty bad amount. The only reason they aren't criticized even more is because the idf is consistently much worse.

>>513282784
Muhammad, this is from 2011 and they've all moved to decent white countries by now.

>>513282501 (OP)
It would take thousands of Hamas attacks to come close to the civilian casualties inflicted by Israel in the past two years, let alone 80 years of Zionists taking over Palestine and starting an apartheid state.

The Israelis deserve it, and more. It's so weird seeing NAFO newfags supporting the death of Ukrainians and Russians forced into conscription, and the Palestinians simply for existing.

>>513283582
Says an American, you dragged us into a dozen pointless wars after muh 9/11.

Hey, it sucks about the thousands of people, but at least those Zionists claimed their insurance money!

>>513282501 (OP)
fuck muslims

>>513283651
Lol

>>513283371
You sandnigger apologists have ruined the word genocide by missusing it like a leftist misusing the term Nazi lol
That's why no one takes you seriously other than to hope you get bored and fuck off with your annoying ass to the next subhuman shitskin plight and why you have to cloak your performative meaningless activism with celebrity worshipping subreddits and tiktok like r/ fauxmoi

>>513282501 (OP)
>>513282708
>>513282814
>>513283072
>>513283917
Have israel tried cutting their funding?

>>513283829
Lol, you're rightless sheep now, bong.
Soon enough you wont be posting on here or anywhere unapproved by you government.

>>513283752
>it would take a million pakistani rape gangs to come close to the damage and casualties causes by the British Empire therefore the Anglos deserve it

>>513284161
We aren't in Pakistan.

You are still raping and murdering the Palestinians. Go back to your Jewbook, hasbarist.

>>513284161
muh rape gangs

>>513283752
>It would take thousands of Hamas attacks to come close to the civilian casualties
War is not a game requiring equal results. Hamas committed an act of terrorism that started a war. Hamas is losing the war. The war will continue until the hostages are released and Hamas unconditionally surrenders. This is fair.

>>513283752
>The 2 years of FAFO payback justifies the original pali army's unprovoked terror attack on civilians.
>Do negroid semites really not have time ordered brains?
Don't you think you would be happier living back home in your paki terror tents?

>>513284274
muh hostages

>>513284318
muh paki terror tents

>>513284274
Because Israelis and Palestinians were living in peace before October 7th and nothing ever happened beforehand. They were living in harmony until KhhhhhhhhhhhhhhAMAAAS attacked.

>>513284226
Fact: the UK never acted geopolitically outside of its borders in it's entire history.

>>513282501 (OP)
The keyword is was

Whatever it was got bombed to oblivion

muh paki rape gangs

>>513284468
Its
Autocorrect

>>513284468
>>513284498
muh ethical mosaad agents

>>513284274
>Hamas committed an act of terrorism that started a war.
What do you call Israel's massacres earlier that year?

>until the hostages are released
Israel has carpet bombed them all, lol

>>513284318
Hamas's attack was justified in 2023, because in 2023 before that attack, apartheid state Israel had abducted Palestinian men, women and children, and killed many.

Only the Israelis can't take that Hamas did the same to them, making their tech look like a joke, so they had a genocidal meltdown.

>>513284468
The angloid must answer for his crimes against the scottish nation.

>>513284062
This is normal behavior because gaza is a nigger shit hole propped up by global gibs, you're trying to frame it in the most retarded way possible that Israel somehow controls hamas when in reality gaza is a welfare case the rest of the world pities and wants to help, you want us to cut funding so they become even more destitute and niggerish, how progressive of you
This type of behavior and trolling is why the Arab states washed their hands of you attention seeking faggots and would cheer on a genocide

>>513284381
>Whiteish semites did something so therefore trust nigger semites always did nuffins.

>>513284626
muh terror fund

>>513284567
As we all know, whenever a paramilitary rebel organization attacks civilians it's called "terrorism". Whenever the military of an established country attacks civilians it's called "collateral damage" and "muh human shields!".

>>513284660
muh white jews

>>513282501 (OP)
In a similar way the IRA were terrorists. Yes, especially because of overt meddling by the Netanyahu regime to install and fund them as a counterbalancing element. More specifically, Hamas conduct "terrorist", read: partisan, dissident, resistance, insurgent, etc. actions for the sake of drawing attention to their plight and cause. Is it heinous? Yes, by design - to point to the situation the Palestinians are facing.

The takeaway should be that Hamas represent a kind of desperation facing Gaza. The people have no will - their government organization is quite literally reduced, by Israelis imposition, to being little more than a channel for expressing discontent. As such, you get a violent terrorist organization. All other services are handled by a joint effort of Israeli controls and international aid covering the gaps when permitted. The whole situation is a manufactured crisis and still is right up to the current refugee camps and the madness surrounding the GHF and campaign to secure the supposed remaining hostages. It's a total fucking mess and we're never going to know it all because it's buried behind IDF & Mossad internal documents.

>>513284468
You stupid ESL Zionist shitskin. We - the UK/British Empire, are not in Pakistan. We're not running an apartheid state in Pakistan.

You Zionists come from all the world, to Palestine, specifically to take their country from them. The rape gangs here in the UK, over decades, don't even come close to what you do in a year at just checkpoints. Killing kids, raping them, stealing their organs, Zionists are complete subhumans.

pol's dream of Israel being destroyed will be real soon.

muh ethical jews

muh grooming gangs

>>513284738
Muh isis, you're just like the Russian shills posting a flowchart of screen caps from a folder your call center manager gave you lol

>>513282501 (OP)
Who cares? I just want TKD.

>>513284791
>Weird incident in news makes half nigger semites innocent

>>513285105
muh russian shills

>>513284949
>The people have no will
Then they have no agency. Your argument requires that Israel contain Palestinians in the world's largest open air prison and never allows them out. There's no other option except genocide.

>>513284949
>we're never going to know it
IDF are on record diverting supplies. IDF are on record ignoring settlers looting supplies. IDF are on record with the GHF shooting at civilians. IDF are on record shooting at civilians.

Oh, and the "aid" is either dangerously out of date, dry and useless without water, or injected with drugs.

And this is just a small selection of things that have met the standard of evidence for the ICC and ICJ. Meanwhile, Israel:
>there was rape by kkkhhamas!
>no, we have no evidence
>we are looking into the recordings of our guards raping prisoners
>what guards? uhhh, Hamas raped people!
They have nothing except Hamas killing retard kibbutzniks and IDF on occupied land.

>>513284969
???
I'm agreeing with you!
Look up the UK's history- the UK has never been active geopolitically outside of its borders from its founding till the present day!
Wars of conquest, imperialism, colonialism, opening markets, you name it!
The UK is as sterile as it gets!

muh chosenites

>>513284949
The main differences between the IRA and Hamas are that the IRA was not composed of religious fanatics, and Hamas's end goal is to eliminate Israel.

>>513285460
>>513285584
muh false equivalence

you already made your mind up, what is the point of this thread?

>>513284567
>Israel has carpet bombed them all, lol
Carpet bombing will continue until Hamas surrenders. Lol.
>Hamas's attack was justified in 2023
Then Israel's response is justified including leveling all of Gaza. I think this war can be wrapped up with only 250k dead Palestinians. Lol.

>>513285085
Look we don't like any of that semite shit but you're only showing what a few whiter semites do to justify what millions of negroided semites do. Its retarded. Give it up. The blacker the semite the shittier the soul.

>>513285694
That people realize Hamas was that pile of smoking dust and dead people on food camps

>>513285747
muh pedo haven

>>513282501 (OP)
Hamas are runs more like a mafia doing a protection racket for palestinians, while Israel is also a a protection racket for Israelis. The difference is that October 7th was Israel's excuse to finally go into the other gangs turf due to the younger initiates of the Hamas gang getting too rowdy

>>513283434
So hamas never did anything at all before oct 7 and they just good boys who dindu nuffin?

>>513284969
>We - the UK/British Empire, are not in Pakistan.
topkek
been to London any time in the last decade m8?

>>513285887
muh danish poster israel lover totally not jewish is back

muh holohoax monies

>>513282501 (OP)
I've lost of respect for hamas because they excel in naval warfare. I want them to give an entire Navy and send them against the US.

>>513282501 (OP)
Maybe, maybe not.

The main thing is that every country needs an army to protect itself from invaders.

Palestine isn't allowed to have its own army so someone has to step up. Hamas is essentially the 2nd amendment personified.
Put into action because their state is indeed being threatened

>>513282501 (OP)
There is literally no proof for any of the kike claims about Hamas.

>>513283582
Did you learn that in Holocaust class?

>>513282501 (OP)
>>513282501 (OP)
I've lost of respect for hamas because they excel in naval warfare. I want them to give an entire Navy and send them against the US.

>>513284969
You are in the same situation as Israel is. An actual state with accomplishments vs a group of half nigger semites claiming your home is now theirs. UK will be a pariah once it tries to fight back if Israel is.

Hamas is fighting for Palestine people. Everything you hear about them is jew lies

>>513285714
Why don’t you address the fact that Israel deliberately funded and supported Hamas terrorists as part of their false flag war through deceit bullshit

>>513283651
>they've all moved to decent white countries by now.
that's one possibility, sure

>>513286442
>Address my bullshit
If Israel controls Hamas then why didn't they just get them to evacuate Gaza? Stupid niggers.

>>513285460
According to jewish historical mythology, the Germans tried to genocide jews during WWII, and the allies stopped them from doing so.
The fact that every jew isn’t filled with gratitude towards the peoples and countries who saved them, proves that either the Holocaust didn’t happen, or nazis were right about jews just being shitty people.
So which is it?

>>513286572
>why didn’t they get them to just evacuate Gaza

>>513285885
Armed struggle against an occupational force that seeks to expel and kill your people is never wrong. Once you bring the chain of cause-and-effect far back enough you'll see that the Israelis are the aggressors. Any other narrative requires depriving the entire situation of its historical context.
If a group of armed robbers broke into your house and wanted to kill you and take your stuff, is it wrong to defend yourself? Lets say they capture you and your family and then lock them up in your basement, and start living in the house as if it were their own. They toss scraps down to you but they also beat the shit out of you every now and then and break stuff down there. One or two of your family members were already executed.
Lets say one day that your family had a chance to escape. Doing so would require violence against the men who occupied your house. Lets say the robbers brought some family over, who are perfectly aware of the situation but support it entirely. Sure they didn't do this to you and your family personally, but they're with those who did and are in full support of them.
Would you have any problem with the family that's been locked in the basement using any means necessary to expel the occupiers from their house, including taking their lives?

>>513282501 (OP)
It's shitskin, so it's spiritually jewish.

>>513286621
>So which is it?
You forgot the last option, that you don't know history.

>>513286765
Nah I know the real history which is that jews made up the Holocaust in order to push white guilt narratives

>>513286893
Stay woke.

>>513285694
I'm bored.

>>513286930
Frankfurt jews invented all that woke shit btw

>>513285714
>>513286572
muh oct7

>>513282501 (OP)
Hammas is Mossad you retard.

>>513287053
muh 9/11

>>513286671
Before becoming a pariah in all communist globohomo media for fighting back, retard.

>>513287018
Jews are the epicenter of the world, you're either an anti semite or philo semite.

Christian and Jewish bastards must have their skin covering up their head and neck cut off have their penis and testicles cut off have their hands and feet also cut off then tortured in front of their families then put into cages then be feed to lions in their containment zones who had their food delayed on purpose for Christian and Jewish bastards to be their next food while the families of Christian and Jewish bastards also being forced to watch it.

>>513287056
So hard to watch, literally another shoah

>>513287181
muh antisemitism

>>513283434
Fake news

>>513282501 (OP)
>actually a terrorist organization
Yes
>actually true
Yes
>just Zionist propaganda
Yes

>>513282501 (OP)
>>513282708
Hamas is created funded and supported by the state of Israel, yes.

>>513286697
>Armed struggle against an occupational force that seeks to expel and kill your people is never wrong.
You've just described why Israeli Jews will never give up. Arabs invaded 1400 years ago starting this war by genociding the local Jews and Christians. Palestinians claim the historical birthplace of Judaism thousand of years later. Palestinians belong in Jordan and not Gaza or Judea. Peace isn't possible until Palestinians leave.

CUE IN THE CLOWN SHILLS WITH NAMES BEFORE OCT 7TH!!!!! OUR SHIT TAKES ARENT WORKING ANYMORE SHAIM!!!!!!!!!!!

>>513286930
muh holohoax

War between Israel and Hamas is fake;There is no war between Israel and Hamas.

Videos and photographs about fake Israel Hamas war are fraudulent videos and photographs that are either staged by actors or made in the computer or both.

Islamic State controls majority of Iraq and Sham today and have Mucahids in Sinai and Quds fighting against Masri Republic,Israel,Hamas and other kuffar in there;Islamic State are never defeated this is a lie made up by kuffar.

Islamic State are not defeated at all they merely have been censored.

Islamic State are fighting against Israel and Palestinian Arabs and they will push Israel into the sea,destroy Palestine and slaughter Christian,Jewish and Arab kuffar in there InshAllah.

Fake Israel Hamas war narrative and fraudulent videos and photographs about it are made up by kuffar to cover up the real war of Islamic State against Israel and Palestinian Arabs and also to cover up the fact that Islamic State are about to start pushing Israel into the sea,destroying Palestine and slaughtering Christians,Jews and Arabs in there Biiznillah.

>>513287310
>Antisemitism is a trick
So then what you are doing here is a trick. Understood.
>Islamaphobia is a trick
We're done with both nigger and non nigger whining.

NOOOO VILE SCHLOMOOOO!!!!!!! ITS TOO OBVIOUS!!!!! RETRAINING BRIEF FOR THE 8200 UNIT AT 2300 HOURS!!!!!
BRING YOUR OWN MICROWAVED MEALS FOR CHILDREN!!!

>>513287678
muh mental gymnastics

muh kitler stash

Anyone who protects Palestine/Philistine has been called “Hamas”.

The “war” started when the cult of “Israel” blocked the water-supply of Palestine.
Now 50,000 kids are dead.

All of the cult of “Israel” will be arrested.

>>513282501 (OP)
Hamas are based. Heil Hamas.

>>513282501 (OP)
"Terrorism" literally does not exist. It's a totally meaningless term

>>513287464
Today's Israel has no connection with ancient Israel. It is not a continuation of it, and enough generations have passed for it to no longer have mattered. A thousand years is a long time. There were Jews living in Palestine peacefully alongside Muslim Palestinians before Zionist settlers came.
Israel's expansionist ambitions do not end at Palestine. They will continue to attack their neighbors and expand, doing the same thing and commit ethnic cleansing and displacement in newly-gained territories.

>>513287800
>8200
Look up all the recent tech acquisitions. All the 8200's are getting bought out and rehomed to USA.
It's only the freiers and jeetos left

>>513282501 (OP)
>Is Hamas a terrorist organization?
Yes.

>are all the alleged atrocities committed by them true?
I’m not aware of any, let alone many “alleged” atrocities committed by them - only real ones.

>>513282501 (OP)
Hamas is a terrorist organization. They are supported by Iran and don’t necessarily have a pro Palestinian agenda so much as pro Iranian. The Palestine simply provides cover for them. Unto themselves, the Palestinians could possibly live in relative peace with their Israeli neighbors. However, a Palestinian state would prevent Israel expansion so they have little interest in Palestine establishing a recognized state. For this reason, many Palestinians cheer Hamas on but understand that this complicates the possibility of their own statehood.

There are several countries now that are willing to recognize Palestinian sovereignty which places the responsibility of driving out Hamas on the Palestinians. This also thwarts Trumps agenda of investment into the Israeli expansion. Israel is feeling the heat because statehood would cancel expansion. Iran is upset because they lose a front on Israel. Currently Israel appears to be trying to starve out the Palestinians which has resulted in increased criticism of Israeli politics.

>>513290986
>>513291481
Do you have proof for your claims? Can Hamas go to the US, rape children, and then get a flight back home sponsored by the US government? >>513284254

>>513282501 (OP)
Former. Without Hamas completely eradicated, there can't be peace.

>>513292035
There is no way germany is that cucked right?

>>513286005
>hides flag
lmao, let me see what third world country you're from

>>513291692
Jesus you people are both weird and sick. Hope you choke on a nuggie, loser.

>>513282708
>>513282784
>>513283913
Why are jeets so philosemetic and zionist?

>>513282501 (OP)
Whoever stands by a just cause cannot possibly be called a terrorist

>>513282501 (OP)
All followers of the pig-fucking pedo Mohammed are terrorists. They're currently terrorising Europe with their barbaric lifestyles and beliefs.

>>513290560
>just let Arabs take over everything, kuffir.

>>513282501 (OP)
Name one bad thing they ever did

>>513286279
>You are in the same situation as Israel is.
Fuck off, ziomutt. Our immigrants and rapefugees are not foreign armed Zionists coming to make the UK into their 3000 year promised Israel. What the Palestinians have suffered for 80 years is completely different to what we're suffering here.

>>513290905
As well as big chunks of silicon valley, moving jobs and production from the US to Israel for basically no reason.
>thanks for all the free tech, goyim! It'll work for le land of startups now!