Thread 513319596

Conservatives spent decades denying climate change, and when predictions come true they resort to conspiracy theories about weather modification lol

There's literally internal documents from Exxon themselves from the 70s showing this kind of shit would end up happening

Has the property value of beach front property gone up or down in the last 20 years? If Climate Change were real then it should have gone down, right?

>>513319596 (OP)
Climate Change is a HOAX
OP is a nigger

>>513319908
It's not really about sea levels anymore. Now it's about "extreme" weather.

>>513319596 (OP)
Fake. Fuck off.

>>513319596 (OP)
We keep building and building while disrupting the natural landscape, and don't make the needed upgrades to storm management.
It's an infrastructure problem.

>>513320077
what's fake about the flooding?

>>513319596 (OP)
What predictions came tru anon? I bet you cant name a single long term prediction that came true

1970s you predicted global freezing
1980 you predicted global acid rain
1990s you predicted the death of the ozone layer
2000s you predicted rapid rise in sea levels
2010s you predicted global warming
2020s you just call it climate change because every single broad scale prediction has been false

So bullshit boy, tell us which broad scale scientific predictions have come true? Global freezing? Acid rain? Ozone layer depletion? Sean level wises? Global warming? Or pick another

>>513320047
You are a dub fuck anon

>>513319596 (OP)
bumping for fake schizo 'science'

>>513319596 (OP)
>Weather isn't climate
>Unless I can somehow link it to Climate Change. Then every single adverse weather event is definitely the climate

>>513320278
We have had floods for millions of years. Which ones are caused by man made climate change. Be specific not delusional

>>513319908
>It should have gone down
Property values go up when there are fewer homes, though. Also, property values, especially luxury properties, have been exploding in price. Your analogy is like weighing yourself using a scale on the moon.

>>513319596 (OP)
100% Indian driving that truck

>>513319596 (OP)
exxon was selling a product everyone needed. shut up retarded shit eater.
You ever think about all the amazingly beneficial things oil and gas does every moment of every day?

>>513319596 (OP)
>when predictions come true
If the inconvenient truth predictions were true we'd all be dead by now.

>>513319596 (OP)
>internal documents from Exxon themselve
Did they predict that it would always JUST SO HAPPEN to affect people who refuse to sell to blackstone? OP Eglin as fuck.

>>513319596 (OP)
i love crazies

>exxon is the great evil
>also believe whatever exxon says

amazing

>>513319596 (OP)
Climate change is real. It's caused by HAARP.

>>513320441
Savage cope and not a rebuttal. Coastal properties are being built at a higher rate than ever. Stop lying to yourself

>>513320441
OK, so there must be properties all along the coast line that you can point to that are now worth nothing because they are under the ocean now, right?

>>513320325
This has actually been going on every decade since the mid 1800s with the same people, their students, students of their students etc involved.
>World about to end unless you give the malthusians all your power and money
They always make the same kind of extreme alarmist claims, and always pretend they never did when the predictions don't come true and just move on to next prediction.

>>513319596 (OP)
>One in 1000 years
Floods are common in the Tennessee valley.

https://insideclimatenews.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/James-Black-1977-Presentation.pdf

>>513319908
Sea level rise was always expected to take a much much much longer time than when we start getting much more extreme weather. But yes, countless areas are now uninsurable and have become effectively worthless.

>>513320325
>1970s you predicted global freezing
Never a consensus, always an outside theory

>1980 you predicted global acid rain 1990s you predicted the death of the ozone layer
This was solved thanks to regulations

>2000s you predicted rapid rise in sea levels 2010s you predicted global warming 2020s you just call it climate change
These three are the same thing

>>513320527
The evil is knowing about what their actions are leading to and covering it up.

FUCKING CAVE MEN AND THEIR POLLUTION

Did they kneel to Israel or are they not going to get emergency help?

>>513319596 (OP)
>cites weather not climate
just kys already

>>513319596 (OP)
It's true what they say, conservatives are just liberals from 20 years ago.

Imagine what conservatives would be like in 2045.
They'd probably start railing about how shemales or trannies are BASED and how democrats are degenerates who are necrophiliac zoophilies.

>>513319596 (OP)
What predictions are these now? I've been waiting to see the sea levels rise and overtake Miami and LA, but they're in the same spot they were ~200 years ago.

>>513319596 (OP)
All of them

>>513319908
Property values won't go down as long as the dollar continues devaluing

A city build in the bottom of a river valley flooded?
Quick we need more taxes on energy and no one can eat beef anymore!

sorry Ai, anons know this is fake news too. chem trails and cloud seeding byway of aluminum is common knowledge. just bcuz daddy gubmint dun say nuttin bout spraying the skies is never indicative that the cloud seeding has ceased. its like giving no answer instead of lying. too high to think of the word but am certain Ai will flex it into my sphere

>>513321065
extreme cope
if the property was under the ocean right now it would be worth $0
If climate change were real then Obama would be packing his bags and moving from his beach front property in Martha's Vineyard, instead his property only goes up in value each year.

>>513320919
>conservatives are just liberals from 20 years ago.
No, it's just that there's a certain brand of liberal who pretends to be conservative because they like the masculine image it conveys. Most baby boomer "conservatives" are just liberals with an identity crisis.

>>513320750
That Wasn't Real Climate Change, the post.

>solved due to regulations
China pumps out 20x more CO2 and Pollutants than America ever did.

>>513320325
>1980 you predicted global acid rain
>1990s you predicted the death of the ozone layer

The blissfull ignorance of the average American ladies and gentlemen.

>>513320441
Yeah, no, you're just a retarded nigger faggot. Home values are based on demand, location, luxury, and speculation. Speculation beats out everything if property owners and buyers genuinely believed that coastal homes were on a limited timeline of viability. No one wants a house that is predicted to be wiped out by natural disasters. All "global warming"/"climate change" predictions have been set on a 10 year countdown for the last 40 fucking years and all of them exclusively point the finger at human responsibility. Absolutely zero climate change scientists that are promoted by mainstream, corporate media sources will ever say a fucking word about solar/polar cycles. All man made climate change proponents seem to also have some level of personal stake in the information war via alt-energy investments and lobbying.

>>513321183
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol?wprov=sfla1

>>513319596 (OP)
>a rare thing happened
>that means it is now normal

>>513319596 (OP)
Records from just 200 years ago are spotty as hell amd yet these climate nutjobs expect us to believe they know what happened 1000 years ago?

Amd your only "Solution" is to raise taxes on average people and have more government intervention into our lives? How about you propose a solution thar applies to the corporations next time

>>513319596 (OP)
Zoomer glownigger princesses need to stop playing God with our weather, actions have consequences after all.

>>513320750
>Never a consensus, always an outside theory
Lies. It was the primary consensus

>This was solved thanks to regulations
More lies. China and India's emissions of CFC's spiked hard at the same time we were reducing. Overall levels went up not down. Once the public started to become aware of this the problem magically vanished


>These three are the same thing

More lies. They are 3 completely different effects. None of the 3 predictions have become true. Sea levels have remained constant by measurement even though predictions and models have them raised. Temps have remained boradly the same, we have had to change measurement procedures to get them to increase. We have also started to delete historical hot temp reports

You are completely full of shit anon. You can name a single scientific projection that has come true because there hasnt been one. The reason for that is that its not science, its population control and you are just the kind of midwit that isnt intelligent enough to see that previous failure pattern

>>513319596 (OP)
If it happens once in a 1000 years, how is it climate change that it happened?

>>513321319
>rare
How rare do you think floods are in Tennessee?

>>513321208
Point out the error anon. You wont because you cant

Even better. Tell us about 1 single major climate prediction that came true?

>>513319596 (OP)
I welcome climate change, it's nature fighting back.

>>513321318
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Protocol?wprov=sfla1
China, the biggest emitter, didnt adhere to the protocol till 2020. 20 years after the imaginary problem went away. Use your brain you fucking downs syndrome child

>>513321489
the ozone hole vanished once we had insteuments that could measure it.

>>513319596 (OP)
Did anyone actually call it a "once in a 1000 year storm" or is he gay and retarded?

>>513319596 (OP)
OK, it's not normal. How does paying more taxes to be funneled to greenwashing corps and money laundering schemes help fix it?

The only way to fix it is to nuke India and China. Which won't happen. So why cripple our country for nothing?

>>513319596 (OP)
You think this is happening because there's .02% more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere? There are many historical records of floods...

>>513321633
>be child zoomzoom
>never around old people
>never hear about old storms
many such cases.

mindwipe

children of the poop brain

>>513319596 (OP)
>once in 1000 year storm
So they happen fairly often? It comparison to time

>>513321182
I do find it suspicious how the last few recent polls shows boomers being MORE liberal than Gen X.

Now that's shocking, are Boomer's mask finally slipping? Or do they just don't give a fuck since they'll be dead before shit hits the fan?

>>513319596 (OP)
Exxon were the ones who made this shit up in the first place, it’s not that “they knew”.

>>513321683
Yes. Just like the sea level rises. The global cooling, The acid rain. As soon as it was actually measurable the problems vanished

>>513320366
How so? Nobody is denying that the climate changes. Many people who are not selling climate change question why and what to do about it. A gay communist wealth redistribution shakedown only in historically white countries is likely not going to make the sky less angry jackass memeflag anon.

>>513319596 (OP)
and now /pol/ will endlessly seethe at you
>>513319908
never underestimate retail baggies trying to time the top

>>513320325
Based sugarwater enjoyer

>>513319596 (OP)

Listen liberal, everybody knows that global warming can't hurt you if you don't believe in it. All those people are drowning only because they are liberal and gay and God is punishing them.

>>513319596 (OP)
Whats it like being a liar, OP?

Climateniggers have yet to prove changing weather patterns are because of me exhaling CO2.

>>513319908
I never see anyone discuss population and density.
Florida's population has tripled since 1970. Imagine how much less damage and death there would have been if Hurricane Ian hit Florida in 1970.
Imagine how many homes were in Pacific Palisades in the 80s or 90s.

if it is real why are elites importing 3rd world retards

>>513321958
>retail baggies
Right, because investment firms aren't investing in oceanfront property at all. Retard.

>>513321942
Now graph over the longer term. Not just the last 0.003% of history

>>513320047
People predicted they'd shift to this narrative 15+ years ago, and it was predicted they'd shift to it after a prolonged period of failed climate change fear mongering predictions. They shifted to "climate change" after the "global warming" narrative became clear and obvious bullshit since global temperatures were in fact not constantly increasing.
They'll blame you and me for exhaling CO2 but they'll ignore the king of all impacts on our weather.
The sun.

>>513321966
Which broad scientific prediction are you referring too? Or you dont have an answer because its fake and you are full of shit so you are trying to create avoidance?

>>513320683
>mid 1800s
bruh
>The Chicken Little story, also known as Henny Penny or Chicken Licken, is a European folk tale with roots in oral tradition, possibly dating back 25 centuries

>>513322453
The topic requires that participants have a basic understanding of the history of climate change fear mongering predictions.
Memeflaggots get the cross.

>>513319596 (OP)
America is under judgement of God and these will continue and escalate.

>>513322661
>America
it's GLOBAL
or not

>>513319596 (OP)
>when predictions come true
citation needed, tard fag. tea leaf reading idiot nigger.

How will you stop the star from expanding until it engulfs the earth OP?

>>513319596 (OP)
>There's literally internal documents from Exxon themselves from the 70s showing this kind of shit would end up happening
You are so naive. It would be kinda cute if you weren't a god damn adult.
It must be so easy to make you do things in real life. Hey anon, sacrifice your child or else TV will forever be broken. You go to sleep, wake up, TV is broken. Oh shit, this guy was right. I better do what he says.
Grow the fuck up.

>>513322631
So you cant name a single broad scientific prediction that came true?

Instead you engage in cope and avoidance like all good brainwashed children

>>513322704
>>513322661
It's affecting the entire solar system. Each and every one of you could look up climate change within the solar system and see that every single planet's own climates are also changing.
It's the sun, stupids.

>>513319596 (OP)
>Humans can modify the global climate!
>WTF do you mean humans can modify the weather that's a conspiracy theory

>>513322845
I made a general statement then criticized your use of a memeflag which is independent of the topic.

Look at my other posts, you raging retard, and discern my position.

>>513319596 (OP)
The hyperbole from An Inconvenient Truth didn't help. It's another Super Size Me.
Even more so when Gore doubled down on his claims in the sequel, using a hurricane to show NYC was flooding.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2unzHvFPtY0

>>513323033
That movie BTFO'd the entire climate agenda several years later. It's pretty funny. The general public doesn't buy into the fearmongering and guilt-peddling the climatefags constantly drumbeat about anymore. It's pretty funny. You can look back through the years and see how much effort they put into manipulating the soft-minded into sacrificing their own futures for nothing. And now all that work they did duping people is for nothing.

>>513321550
Floods like this? I estimate roughly 1 in every 1000 years you fucking retard.

>>513319596 (OP)
They knew about climate change way back in 1912.

>>513322968
>So you cant name a single broad scientific prediction that came true?
That was incredibly dumb of you. Instead of dealing with anything I said you went hurr durr man has meme flag like a downs syndrome child would do

Going back to my point which you are desperately and pathetically trying to avoid, can you cant name a single broad scientific prediction that came true?

>>513323235
Are you basing that on any data you've looked up or how you feel in this moment?

>>513323278
You mean they've been peddling this scientific nonsense for over 100 years.
Our earth is far more complex than any of their models could ever account for, this is why they're always wrong.

>>513319596 (OP)
>this is not normal weather
It's because the 9th planet is entering back into the solar system which will trigger all these storms. We should start heading underground but the "elites" don't want humans to survive so they will never tell you this

Apologies that this will 404 your thread you faggot glownigger

>>513323033
Gore
The man that hunted a rare fish for his daughters birthday party and whos house uses a city blocks worth of energy for the AC

>>513319908
Insurance companies are literally refusing to insure areas that keep having these once in a thousand year weather disasters lmao

Why hasn't Congress completely abolished the National Flood Insurance Program?
Climate change isn't real.

>>513319908
The ocean fronts of major coatal lines on continents would be the last to be engulfed in water...

>>513323317
Are you a bot or something? Look at my other posts, you're only damaging your agenda by being so angry and dumb.

>>513319596 (OP)
Or maybe we are still exiting the last ice age.

Total bullshit. It rained a bit. End of story. I live there. Here's me working at a nuke plant nearby.

>>513321573
We stopped both those things from getting worse or even happening...

>>513323319
I am basing it own the article being discussed, you absolute moron.

Don’t >> me or my wife’s son ever again

>>513319596 (OP)
>How many more "rare" disasters before we admit it is not normal?!
At least as many as "rare" deaths following a covid vaccination. Then we can talk. Not sooner.

>>513323442
>So you cant name a single broad scientific prediction that came true?
Im not bothered about your other posts, I dint read them. Im just responding to the border line brain damaged dumb shit you responded to me with

Now can you actually answer the question or not? Can you name a single broad scientific prediction that came true?

>>513319596 (OP)
if they come often enough
that makes it normal
so what, middle usa is wet and wild (always has been), it'll be fine
or what, did some niggers get washed (away even, perhaps), and you're gonna cry?

>>513323536
You don't actually know anything, that's obvious. Thanks for the selfie though, retard.

>>513323390
More carbon dioxide means a hotter planet. Every heard of Venus genius?

>>513323611
>Im not bothered about your other posts
Keep spinning your tires then, dumb ass. It's annoying that idiots like you go out there and undo the work I've done to show random retards they're being lied to about manmade climate change.
I will now dismiss you as a bot for being so obtuse.

>>513323750
>doesn't actually know anything about venus
>all he remembers is some little false factoid he remembers from watching the magic school bus as a child
You morons just can't help but tell me how stupid you are.

>>513323764
Its self inflicted on your part. Thats happens when you say dumb shit to people that agree with you

Dont blame me for your own fuckwittery

>>513319596 (OP)
If its a particularly wet year, wouldn't it be expected that multiple 1/1000 year floods happen in the same year?

>>513319596 (OP)
>climate isn't weather, except when we say it is
Shut up fag

>>513319596 (OP)
How is drainage infrastructure in most states?
I can't imagine it's been updates after decades of population growth.

>>513323750
You mean that planet thats much closer to the hot sun than earth?

My god you retards are fucking moronic

>>513319596 (OP)
>FUD FUD FUD! Everything is FUD FUD FUD!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaspgmHH4wk

>>513323815
You're a raging looney. You haven't offered any scientific tidbits to prove your vast knowledge of Earth's climate and its complexities. Come on /pol/tard PhD enlighten me. Lmao

Weather modification isn't some tinfoil hat conspiracy, it's legit.

>>513319596 (OP)
Who said it's normal weather? It's normal "extreme weather".

>>513319596 (OP)
>https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/2977/text
>Rep. Kucinich, Dennis J. [D-OH-10] (Introduced 10/02/2001)
>Dennis Kucinich, mega lib, candidate for lib filth party president
>Ctrl+F chemtrails
whoops turns out the origin of weather modification is the lib filth party
now what do you have to say for yourself
oh i know, the thread mysteriously dies and disappears after your total rape. what a surprise.

>>513324206
>Weather modification isn't some tinfoil hat conspiracy, it's legit.

That's right. I knew it all along.

I'm New York and don't gotta worry about climate change.
My nigger mayor is building an entire seawall made up of oysters to protect the NY harbor.
Everywhere else in the country can get flooded for all i care.

>>513322278
From which data anon? How can you graph something without accurate measurement data? No, you can't cut a hole in an Antarctic rock and determine how cold it was 100,000 years ago. That is not scientific.

>>513319596 (OP)
there is no climate change
Cloud seeding
Solar Maximum
Increased Earthquake and volcanic activity.

Climate change is some made up bullshit for naturally occurring events so that THEY can profit off these environmental issues that happen regularly in cycles.

>>513324590
Are you implying that we have accurate measurements for 1100BC anon? Surely you are not that delusional?

>>513319596 (OP)


they found lithium deposits and the storms are making the lithium rich sludge come to the surface, (((they))) will buy the properties for dirt cheap to mine them.

>>513323437
>...abolish the National Flood Insurance Program.

That'll help them the Republicans win the midterms. Please do it.

I live in New Mexico at 4,000 feet elevation, it won't hurt me.

>>513319908
>le free market is le rational
I forgot there’s subhumans who actually believe this shit still

>>513324710
No Im making a statement that all weather data older than 150 years is not reliable not accurate and fabricated to continue funding doomsday climate alarmists.

>>513324827
you make it sound like a majority of coastal folks are Republicans/conservatives.
i thought the stereotype is that coastal folks are liberals.

>>513324922
So my point is valid. The graph I was responding to was nonsense

You are also wrong about the 150 year time frame. Measurements from post 2020 are not comparable to historic measurements because of changes in measurement methodology. Measurements from post 2020 are not comparable to measurements from 1994-2012 because of changes in measuring methodology. They are not comparable to 1978-1994 measurements. They are not comparable to 1961-1978 measurements and they are not comparable to pre 1961 measurements, all for the same reasons

We dont have 150 years of measurements at all because we change the the way we take measurements every time and the end result of that is that each generations measurements increase in value. We used to take measurements in the shade. Then we changed it to the open. Then we changed it from rural to urban. Then we changed it to above blacktop. Each generation increased the values without being directly comparable to previous generations. That wasnt accidental

>>513323437
here friend, I embettered it for you

>>513323815
regreening is a danger to this earth, it's murdering the deserts!
you really can't catch a break with these fuckers
hotter, they don't like it
more water, they don't like it
less water, they don't like it
possible cool age, they don't like it
more algae they don't like it
less algae, they don't like it
more desert BAD
more forests BAD
more niggers YES PLEASE MASTER
fuck them

I buess gump?

>>513319908
FPBP
Gaped

>>513320600
Oceans aren't rising any time soon. If the ocean level rises, it will be over the course of centuries.
>>513320556
Oceans aren't rising any time soon. If the ocean level rises, it will be over the course of centuries.
>>513321220
You are a moron. Climate change is real, and humans are not the only cause. Read a book that isn't funded by oil tycoons.

It isn't that hard to understand. The fear is that we'll let too much CO2 into the atmosphere and it'll cause a greenhouse effect that propagates itself. When it starts, it'll be much harder to stop. It isn't unusual for the planet to undergo climate change, but the problem is that we don't know what the fuck that's going to do to HUMANITY. Sure, it might be fine. We might be able to stop the greenhouse effect before it spirals out-of-control. It might never cause any problems in the first place! But what if it does cause problems? What if we can't stop it? This is potentially an extinctio-level threat if the climate changes to be as it was during the Great Dying. We'd be fucked. Sure, life will move on, but we won't.

>>513319908
>markets are rational supercomputers
>believing this in 2025

>>513327435
Any yet the scientific predictions are decades not centuries. You have just proved my point that the predictions are lies. Thankyou

>>513320750
>1980 you predicted global acid rain 1990s you predicted the death of the ozone layer
>This was solved thanks to regulations
Holes in the Ozone 'Layer' was a Hoax, the 'holes' are still there, and have always been there at the earths poles in their respective winter when little to no sunlight is exposed to them and no Ionization of O2 into O3 takes place in the upper atmosphere.

>>513319596 (OP)
Funny that it only happens in America.
When rich fags ban private jets and waterfront houses drop in price, I'll start giving a shit.

>>513327656
Climate scientists aren't predicting extinction in the next ten years. They are predicting global temperature changes. They are able to accurately predict global temperature changes based on greenhouse gas emissions. What those predictions mean has always been speculation.

The disastrous effects of climate change aren't going to be felt by you, or your children, or maybe even your children's children. The truly bad stuff will be if/when the greenhouse gases begin to propagate more of themselves in a death spiral. Propaganda and lies about climate change effecting you or your children are just to get people to care about it. If people kick this can down the road, then this may (may) cause big problems in the future. Nobody really cares to give the public the truth about anything. What is the point of telling the truth when lies work significantly better? Nobody cares about the truth, anyway. People will believe whatever they want to.

There are minor effects of climate change that can already be felt. Some areas are getting colder, most are getting hotter. We've melted some of the polar ice caps, but they've been levelling-off.

>>513319596 (OP)
It’s caused by cloud seeding which the government has been doing to 60 years now. Illinois and Florida have banned it.

>>513319596 (OP)
stupid question, but if this happens so often, can you really call it "rare" anymore?

>>513329164
You are either mis-informed or a complete bullshitter

1983: US EPA Scientists predict that sea levels will rise 54.9cm by 2025. Actual measurable rise in 2025 is 0.0cm

1988: NASA climate lead James Hansen predicted that “The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water by 2006” because of predicted sea level rises

1988: US EPA Scientists predict that: The Maldives would be completely underwater in 30 years (by 2018). Actual measurable rise in the Maldives for 2025 is 0.0cm

1989: The UN Climate Science Team predicted that Entire nations would be wiped off the Earth by rising seas by 2000. Actual measurable rise by the UN in 2025 is 0.0cm

There are many, many more examples of failed models. Infact almost all climate models have failed spectacularly in their predictions

That doesnt even include the political scaremonger that fucktards like you seem to buy into

>>513329250
perhaps tennessee should ban it?

>>513320731
>Look how great this flood plain is for growing crops, this is great!
>AHHH, IT FLOODED, HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!?!

>>513321683
AHAHAHHA

>>513319596 (OP)
Its real, and I welcome the Borean alignment.

We did it, Twitter!

>>513330677
Notice how they are all in the 80s.

We don't know what climate change will do. We don't. Everyone who says otherwise is lying. It may do this, it may do that, it may do nothing -- we don't know. What we DO know, is that it IS happening. It MAY stop, either by our own handling or natural-means. That's the pure, unadulterated truth; you don't get this anywhere else, folks. Nobody knows what comes next. Do we keep releasing CO2 and hope for the best? Oil executives say, "Yes!!" I don't think anyone else gets a say in the matter, so we'd better hope it turns out alright.
Not me, though. It is my sincere belief that humanity deserves to perish. But we have to do this right! If we get a climate change death-spiral, then we have to go all-the-way -- we can't let anyone survive. If the apocalypse becomes imminent in my lifetime, somehow, then I'm going on an all-beef diet and stealing as much electricity as I can. I'm counting on you to do the same.

The good news is we've identified the weather control machines causing all of this.

>>513319934
This

>>513319596 (OP)

He's right, though. It's not normal 'weather', because weather doesn't do this. This is the result of draining established backup & main reservoirs into an area. You don't get thousand year floods like this from passing storms.

Don't call me when some on-the-ground zoomers with nothing better to do end up deep-diving the local watersheds and find them at LEAST a foot lower than normal, even AFTER major rainfall. I called it in North Carolina, and it's going to keep happening to inland cities until the average citizen realizes it's a really obvious ploy by Blackrock and Vanguard to get land for cheap.

>>513319596 (OP)
>Once in a thousand years
Not only would you have to believe that this never happened in the last thousand years, before anyone was there to record such an event. But, you would also have to believe that it only happened once every thousand years before that for millions of years. People like OP are retarded enough to just believe the claim without an ounce of critical thought.

>>513319596 (OP)
Wasn't there an entire organization created specifically because it's very routine for the Tennessee valley to flood?

>>513320799
>Grug make big fire, burn for many suns
>Longnose Tribe say fire bad
>Longnose say all shamans say big fire make sun hot
>But if sun hot, why winter cold?

>>513332182
>Grug not go to rock school like longnose shaman
>Greg is shamanic denier

>>513332314
>Greg
Lol. Gotta check that spell check.

>>513319596 (OP)
Wow Chatt is big. Theres a fuckload of people out that way

>>513319596 (OP)

> There's literally internal documents from Exxon themselves from the 70s showing this kind of shit would end up happening

Really? Where are they? Post em.

>>513331858
There are even more from the 90s that the 80s

One thing is certain, the further forward models go in time, the LESS accurate they become. If we cant get 10-15 years right then we have no chance at long term predictions

There are also 2 major problems with the current political fraud we call climate science. The first problem is that co2 isnt actually a major issue. NOx is the big pollutant that we should be trying to eliminate. However NOx isnt a big part of the energy chain so its not profitable to regulate and very difficult to use as a wealth transfer mechanism which is what current co2 regulation is primarily used for

We have known that NOx is the real climate problem since the 70s and yet we have done zero to adress it. If we were serious about climate protection we would be targeting NOx not CO2. The scale of the NOx problem is at least 30x that of the CO2 problem. Yet for all your climate do gooder talk, you didnt mention it once and I doubt you are even aware of it. You are a fraud, just like modern climate science

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/nitrous-oxide-climate-1.5753907
https://www.bbc.co.uk/future/article/20210603-nitrous-oxide-the-worlds-forgotten-greenhouse-gas

The second big problem is how much of the change is man made? The climate is permanently in a state of flux. The planet would be going through climate change right now even if humans didnt exist. This is an important question to answer and yet we have made zero serious effort to answer that question. Without an answer its not possible to formulate any kind of solution

>But but but we need to do something!!
Pissing in the wind and potentially making things worse in the long run is not a solution

>>513319596 (OP)
Countries all over the world are modifying the weather now. They do it for rain and for protecting against climate change, that is a real cause of different weather patterns.

>>513319596 (OP)
This is due to climate engineering. Cloud seeding and whatnot.

>>513319596 (OP)
>scientists states that climate change is happening, and we should limit pollution early to avoid the worst case scenario
>republicans: THE SKY ISNT FALLING ITS ALL A HOAX GET FRAKKING
I wonder who gets paid more in this scenario, the guy working at a public university, or the guy getting visited by oil/coal industry lobbiests.
I already know who, so don't try to debate me, oil shills.

>>513319596 (OP)
Climate change is real because the climate is a dynamic system with many variables
What’s not real is the libshit death cult sacrificing children to control the wether like the shitskin ancestors

>>513332585
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/ab89d5

>>513319596 (OP)
op is a nigger who would never admit it's caused by weather modification companies

>>513319908
Aren't there dozens of islands in the pacific that were populated literally disappearing every year?
Aren't there beaches all along the Atlantic coast of the US needing millions of dollars worth of imported sand in order to not disappear?
Aren't there thousands of properties along the beach that insurance companies are no longer willing to insure and state governments are having to step in and completely change the rules or they won't have an insurance market at all?
I know you'll say none of that counts, but deep down, you'll know you're full of shit.

>>513319596 (OP)
imagine calling yourself hustlebitch lel

>>513319596 (OP)
>once our "prediciton" became unfalsifiable we still need to find the weakest of strawmen beca\use were just so retarded.
don't look up about co2 heating caps.

>>513333163
>Aren't there dozens of islands in the pacific that were populated literally disappearing every year?
Nope. There are some that are losing beach front to erosion but none due to sea level rises

>Aren't there beaches all along the Atlantic coast of the US needing millions of dollars worth of imported sand in order to not disappear?
Yes but again that erosion not sea level rises. There are also much more efficient ways to prevent this erosion such as building brakes. The way the US does it is incredibly dumb

>Aren't there thousands of properties along the beach that insurance companies are no longer willing to insure and state governments are having to step in and completely change the rules or they won't have an insurance market at all?
You need to learn what erosion is. Also insurance companies are refusing to cover in all sorts of places. Near a forrest? No insurance for you! Its not a coastal issue specifically

The problem here is that you have done the usual midwit thing of forming a strong opinion without having a basic understanding of the issue, because the media told you too. Hence you you make dumb posts like this

>>513323881
The idiots think a "once in a 1000 years storm" means "once in a thousand years, anywhere on the planet" not "once in a thousand years in this particular spot".

>>513333480
>coastal erosion isn't due to sea level rise!!!
lmao, calling anyone a midwit without understanding one of the main drivers of coastal erosion is hilarious, you should do standup for retards, you'll really connect with em.

>>513319934
Even worse, they found a way to make it real by fucking with cloud seeding and water albedo. We're fucked

>>513333926
Coastal erosion is primarily a factor of the motion of the moon. Given there has been zero measurable sea level rises in the last 100 years please explain to me how the imaginary rising sea level rise has been a big contributor?

Please stop being a downs syndrome child

>>513319596 (OP)
Whether or not climate change is real or man caused is entirely irrelevant. Leftists have ruined environmentalism as a cause because they sink all available manpower and funds into jerk off projects and outright grifts, while treating any disagreement with them as you being a captain planet villain actively trying to destroy the planet. When all our pollinators are dead due to GMO crops being carpet bombed with pesticides, Leftists will roll on the ground farting and screaming about how this wouldn't have happened if we'd paid a 40% carbon tax and a brapping tax

>>513319596 (OP)
Literally none of your predictions have come true.

>>513332718
>less accurate further in time
I agree.
>CO2 vs N2O
I brought up cows.
>human involvement
Irrelevant. If climate change hurts us, then we have to stop it. If it isn't caused by humans, then we still have to stop it. Or we can do fuck-all and just hope we find a way to stop it before it becomes an existential threat. Or maybe it won't do anything.
If emissions have been linked to global temperature (it has), then we know enough to understand that we can change it. The question is, do we care? Clearly not. Barely any effort has been expended toward understanding and controlling what may be humanity's death knell.

I don't think we disagree about anything except the portrayal of the issue. I don't care that scientists lie to the public. I only care that the real data is available.
The public is full of completely unreasonable fools. Half of America believes they get to live forever, but only if they give money to old pedophiles. Humanity doesn't deserve respect.

>>513334123
hey dumbdumb, what happens when the moon's gravity has more liquid to pull and push on? Do the waves get smaller in your retarded mind?
>zero measurable sea level rise
lmao, mfers just making shit up and hoping his fellow retards don't notice now
Now, the fun bit is, is he just a useful retard that fell for big oil's various disinfo campaigns or is he a shill himself?

>>513334267
Ah, so clearing it out before building the dystopia.

Consider that most flood maps were made in the 70s with topographic maps wherein the engineer said
>yeah that'll flood there and not here
>decades go by with significant development based on probably maybe correct flood maps
>dams are all way past service life
Maybe it's not climate change, maybe it is.

>>513323514
>We stopped both those things
You guys stopped jack shit. Ozone hole closed even before the bans went in effect. Ooh look we did it, we waz kangz!! Then when the ban came the hole opened up again lol. That was about 30 years ago. In the mean time that hole has grown a little larger and then smaller a few times now. One could almost think it's just normal, natural fluctuation.

>>513335359
Yeah. The maps are causing this rain to fall. We should throw them away and that'll stop the rain.

>>513320441
Who gives a fuck how few there are? That’s irrelevant. Are you going to pay millions when you supposedly believe it’s gonna be under water?

>>513320199
Town I grew up in has had a ton of construction and a few houses near me that never had flooding basically have a swamp yard now that floods every time it rains. Storm management is an issue but the real people needing the rope are the city aldermen that allow the construction and the contractors paying the cheapest civil engineer to not even factor in rainwater and drainage.
The newest thing I am fighting is my state planning to move a state route to go a few miles through a designated flood zone and I am the schitzo at the meetings explaining why it is a bad idea just to have faggots sit and tell me there will be no flooding issues. A few hundred pissed off citizens will not stop the destruction of hundreds of homes and politicians don't care because they pocket money from it.

>>513321942
So... cause a massive set of eruptions, and the world will cool down. Cool.

NUKE ISRAEL.

>>513319596 (OP)
Remember when 9.5 inches fell on Chattanooga in 1979? Seems like things are getting better, if we are taking basic weather events as climate change.

>>513337273
Oceans aren't rising any time soon. If the ocean level rises, it will be over the course of centuries.

Also, using property values as a measure of climate change is hilariously stupid. I didn't think I had to point that out, but people apparently think it is a cogent point. Stop making an ass of yourself.

>>513319596 (OP)
give up anon, these retards will never accept what's happening in front of their eyes so we just need to work around them
thankfully IRA construction is still moving apace

>>513320750
Temperature is rising and yes it's bad

>>513319596 (OP)
ocean still the same after more than 2000 years go fuck yourself

>>513330677
James hansen prediction was conditional on co2 levels doubling (which they haven't).
Not sure why you're saying there's 0 cm measurable rise. What's your definition of measurable?
the 1989 thing said that if climate change isn't stopped by 2000 then (at some point in the future) countries would be wiped out. I'll give you this one cause making predictions saying x could happen in the future are just BS.

I think most people were wrong about the maldives, I couldn't find the report you cited from the 80s but there's an nyt article on it.

Still, I do think - temperatures and sea levels are rising faster than they used to and that could be a problem or at least lead to unintended consequences. I don't think burning fossil fuels is a good idea, due to pollution and whatnot. There's also the question of how many of these predictions didn't come true because of climate policies (e.g. if we didn't do anything would the maldives be sinking?). I'm afraid I don't know the answer.
My ultimate feeling is there's some truth to climate change but all the smug scientists should have some humility for once and say - we don't know wtf is going to happen and I still struggle to be on board with the extreme climate doomerism.

>>513319596 (OP)
we really could use the moisture

>>513337111
It takes awhile for ozone depleting materials to dissipate. You'd know this if you knew anything, which you clearly don't. Ozone is actually on track to recover from here on out. Acid rain was reduced because of catalytic converters, EGR, low sulfur diesel and overall aggressive emissions policing.

>>513319596 (OP)
Remember when you said the world would end by 2020? or in 92' or by 83'? You lost

>>513319596 (OP)
Maybe update your drainage systems, maybe look into rivers or lakes that have been messed with. We havent had any flooding this year and we usually do.

>>513339077
maybe we can have a nice empire if we get up to the roman numbers

> Have 1,000 cities
> Surprised a 1 in 1000 year storm hits a city each year

I'm going to give this another try. My pet theory is that fucking with our water is causing "global warming" "climate change" or whatever you want to call it. Starting with hunting the beaver to near extinction we've been taking water off the landscape and into the ocean. Agriculture drains land, we literally redug river basins to reduce their surface area, dams remove seasonal flooding, ect. Taking that thermal mass out of the has made for more extreme weather swings. Higher highs and lower lows. This is in line with observations. Global warming would be hotter across the board and greenhouse gases do not predict extreme winter weather at all.
I've looked for data to back up this idea and it exists. Water tables outside of watersheds are dropping. Extreme temperatures being set in both directions. And it even explains rising sea levels.
It's not carbon. It's water.

Construction of cities, asphalt, and concrete, create the biggest impact. They generate much more heat than nature, turning the sun into pure thermal islands of rising heat.

I would bet a lot of current climate change in the usa is due to heavy development of Colorado which used to be pristine rocky mountain snowpack that now radiates heat and moisture. As well as heavy migration of industry from the north to the south to escape unions and have reduced taxes since the 2000s. Well building big cities has a bigger impact the further south you go because the sun is stronger.

Baking asphalt and concrete even creates constant walls up upwards air that block mist and light rains, creating drier areas that get no precipitation or heavy rain and not light frequent mists.

In similar fashion the former third world once villages now copies the first world, and a city near the equator, which is mainly third world, generates far more heat per year than at latitudes where the sun is less powerful.

Construction of cities is the real culprit. Construction of cities near the equator has a much faster impact. The entire former third world is now building giant asphalt and concrete heat producers and weather interupters everywhere.

>>513319596 (OP)
I used to think it was ludicrous until I got fed a video on JewTube late this spring/early this summer about "hot bulb" heatwaves, now I already knew that moisture has a huge effect on how we perceive warmth or cold but outside of controlled environment, i.e. a sauna, I'd never experienced "tropical heat", and well wouldn't you know, this summer was practically unbearable thanks to the humidity as if had been ordered.

Coincidence? I believe in Coincidence but I don't trust Coincidence.

EGGGGGGGGGGGGSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!

>>513320278
You know none of this is historic, nor is it rare. The only thing that has changed is how human beings react to it.

>>513327435
>The fear is that we'll let too much CO2 into the atmosphere and it'll cause a greenhouse effect that propagates itself. It isn't unusual for the planet to undergo climate change, but the problem is that we don't know what the fuck that's going to do to HUMANITY. Sure, it might be fine. This is potentially an extinctio-level threat if the climate changes to be as it was during the Great Dying. We'd be fucked. Sure, life will move on, but we won't.

The fear you're describing is called "The runaway greenhouse effect." Its a theoretical Venusian phenomena to try and describe how Venus got the way it did.
Earth is not Venus. CO2 ppm is 425. CO2 ppm of 4-10 THOUSAND in earths history did not cause a runaway greenhouse effect. You are being fearmongered.
You aren't wrong that the climate is changing and we have no idea what the fuck its going to do to humanity. Kneecapping our capabilities and efforts because some people think we are the problem is not the solution and will only ensure humans aren't here after Snowball or DemonJungle Earth.

>>513319596 (OP)
>be me
>Californian
>every 5 years
>some new "based" state emerges
>all the chuds at work talk about it like its the second coming of eden
>always the same shit
>ITS CHEAP DUDE
>MUH CONSERVATIVE BALOOOS
>MUH GUNZ
>MUH STRAIGHT PIPED DIRTYMAX DIESEL
>this year its Tennessee
>not really sure why
>call them out for being fucking stupid for wanting to move there
>NAH BRO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND
>THIS WON'T TURN OUT TO BE JUST ANOTHER SPIC NIGGER BAIT AND SWITCH SHITHOLE LIKE IDAHO, MONTANA, TEXAS, ARIZONA, AND ALASKA TURNED OUT TO BE
>TENNESSEE IS FUCKING BASED

Yeh I was right again. I bet they sold all that flood plain to "based" transplants LOL. Have fun getting back into California now faggots. Housing market going nowhere but up since you left.

God is punishing a godless nation. Shocking news. More at 11.

>>513319908
woah cool it with the antisemitic questions anon

>>513319934
BASED

>>513320503
>If the inconvenient truth predictions were true we'd all be dead by now.
just on the inside due to the nihilistic/narcissistic avalanche of retardation

>>513319596 (OP)
More Jewish blessings for America.
Just think how bad things would be if Americans weren't giving 50% of their earnings to bless Israel? They would probably have volcanic eruptions and tsunamis 24/7.