Thread 513321289

Makes no sense to me to hand over cities intact instead of as rubble full of dead Russian bodies.

>>513321289 (OP)
Pol coping about putin visiting Alaska is masking for how desperate he is. Why the fuck would he negotiate if he was winning so decisively, his forces are getting themselves for scraps and by the time he finishes taking the donbass they'll be well over a million deaths

>>513321643
Gutting*

>>513321643
There's over a million deaths now.

>>513321289 (OP)
Best part of this war - seeing the realisation from Ukrainians.
Realisation that noone actually cares for Ukraine.It's lost soldiers, territories and civilians.
Everyone's concern is "how it would hurt Russia".

Now Ukraine hunts down it's own citizens to forcefully put them in trenches to die for a lost cause and not even being acknowledged by your allies, as their main concern is and always was Russia.

To be hohol is worse than death.

>>513322228
>To be hohol is worse than death.
Why surrender then?

>>513321289 (OP)
What about the Ukrainians that will die?

>>513322228
If that were the case nobody would want peace.

>>513321289 (OP)
Because you risk losing all territory and having many of your men die

>>513322616
To be hohol is worse than death apparently, so...

>>513322685
Yeah and the people living there are Russian anyway. Stalin already genocided the Ukranians and settled Russians there.

>>513321289 (OP)
Why stop, after we paint what we claimed already by force?
Zelensky should give us a symbolic gift to show that he's negotiable.

>>513322685
So?

>>513321289 (OP)
>HRRRRRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK

>>513322580
You are under impression that everyone who surrenders will be killed or put in a camp.
Hohol =/= ukrainian.
Millions of Ukrainians are living in Russia and don't even consider their nationality - noone cares in Russia as long as you look like a slav.
For best example of how Ukrainians are treated in Russia now - look at Mariupol - most of it's inhabitants are back and live in an actively rebuilding city. And don't forget Crimea.

>>513321745
There needs to be more.

>>513322992
Because Putin cares about Russian life obviously...kek.

>>513322994
Committing civilizational suicide because you can't handle surrendering is retarded
Of course NAFOtards and hohols don't understand that

>>513323091
>most of it's inhabitants are back
I didn't realize Tajiks were the original inhabitans there.

>>513323091
According to the west you guys want to erase their heritage and language because you see them as Russian and not as Ukrainians

>>513323241
>Committing civilizational suicide because you can't handle surrendering is retarded
Russia should have thought about this in 1941.

>>513322228
All Russians - including, yes, your entire family - need to die. The world will never be safe so long as you "people" exist.

>>513321643
It terrifies me how Trump thinks he can somehow bend him to his will.
How many more times he'll shake his hand and Putin will shit warm feces on it.
Uhhh, Putin, you're white, you're not fucking slant eye after all... right? Wrong.

>>513321289 (OP)
That was fake news. See here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4OtNgw7SDw&t=121s
>>513321643
Because we can do thinks like give the Russians Tomahawk cruise missiles. So they can open up a new set of targets in terms of strategic targets (see pic), like oil refineries. We could flood Ukraine with shit loads more ATACMS, so they could just decimate russian targets with order of magnitude larger warheaded munitions. The OWA-UAVs they use now have only 25-75 kg warheads. That could turn into 500kg warhead missiles. We could give them larger guided bomb units. We could could Ukraine with fiber optic drones, which russia can't stop. We could just massively supply them with better quality and quantity of weapons, all around. Set up a merc pilot program, and fibe them a couple of more squadrons of f-16s. Stuff like that. See here
https://files.catbox.moe/dm99i3.mp4
We could arm them like we arm israel, and get serious.

>>513321289 (OP)
The French surrendered Paris in WW2 to preserve the culture the city and its monuments represented.

>>513323370
Russian won back then and is winning again now

>>513323436
Nice try kike, you and your "chosen people" are the worst thing to happen to society. Kill yourself.

>>513321289 (OP)
Your capacity for cost-benefit analysis is wack. Anyone should be grateful you're allowed nowhere near the table on any kind of negotiation.

>>513323455
see here
>>513323526
We could destroy russia. You idiots are delusional. Russia isn't as strong as you think. We haven't came close to arming Ukraine like we could. We could give them F-16s with avionics/radar. Start a merc pilot program. There 1000s of ways we could make Ukraine more leathal. We could give them enough ATACMS and cruise missles to wipe out their hydro carbons facilities. They already hit russian targets with the OWA UAVs, continually. Those could be 500kg war headed munitions, instead of the 25-75 kg drone warheads. You idiots sincerely think we are trying to maximally arm Ukraine, currently?

>>513322992
Nah I think you need to sacrifice another million Russian slaves for a few hundred more meters of bombed out wasteland

>>513323455
We could give them a radar plane or two. This would mitigate the asymmetric advantage russia has in air power. A 10 nwarhogs, which we are just going to retire and put in storage. We're the USA, for fucks sake. We have so much shit just laying around.

>>513323241
The death of the West is preferable to the surrender of the West, because the death of the West will precipitate nuclear armageddon which will, at the very least, vaporize billions of Eastoids.

>>513322616
See here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4OtNgw7SDw&t=121s
They ain't getting shit without fighting for it.. They will lose shit, when putin defies trump. See here
https://files.catbox.moe/dm99i3.mp4

>>513321289 (OP)
If you're going to lose it anyway, then you may as well spare the lives of your people. But then they are not jewlinski's people.

>>513323707
They weren't winning in 1941. Why didn't they just surrender?

>>513321289 (OP)
>If negotiation is real, what about my stupidity?!

>>513321289 (OP)
Because jeets wouldn't be paid by fsb otherwise.

>>513321643
anyone who says poo-thin went to the alaska meeting with his tail between his legs is coping massively, he got a free photo op, didn't concede anything and even got a ride in the presidential cadillac
the only winner in that meeting was poo-thin

Because the cities aren’t full of “dead Russian bodies” despite your weird, Jewish Tom Clancy fantasy about it. They’re full of dead Ukrainian civilians and when you’re making shitty threads like this the Russians keep losing battles closer and close to Poland. Eventually they’re going to lose all the way to Warsaw if we keep this charade up

If Putlermort was losing then he wouldn’t be invited to “negotiations”. This is how the war was always going to end, over the table. Trump tested the waters to see if they would agree to four provinces and a neutral Ukraine. They haven’t agreed to it, nor will they. The mental gymnastics required to believe they are somehow “losing” this or were ever going to lose it are beyond belief

>>513324981
tl;dr

>>513324981
>Closer and closer to Poland
>still hasn't taken all of donetsk since 2014.

>>513324734
He also got a cool flyover that he smiled at.

>>513324512
>comparing Russia to Germany
Why do you nafo faggots make it so easy to debunk your arguments?

>>513321289 (OP)
It's very simple - Ukraine is about to undergo a total collapse of their lines, and if they don't GIVE Putin what he wants, Russia will take a LOT MORE.

I don't gamble but let's pretend you're Zelensky and you go to the casino and lose almost all your money. Then you get a BIG LOAN and keep on gambling but the loan shark is going to take a lot more, with interest, if you lose it. And the casino has better odds than you do.

It's like that. I can do a car analogy if this isn't clicking for you, love.

>>513324981
You haven't even taken 1% of Ukraine in the last year, you're not winning shit. There's no reason we should Vietnam your asses on this and drag it out indefinitely, forever.

>>513325703
>Total collapse of their lines

Any day now

>>513325783
*shouldn't

>>513325692
Lines on maps prove im winning! Germans in 1942

>>513323526
>We could arm them like we arm israel, and get serious.
lol

>>513325212
They forgot to update this bot to newson's psyop kek.
>inb4 wdym

>>513325692
debunk it then

>>513325939
>newson's
who?

>>513325785
Russia gains more land each day than they gained the previous day, has for a while now. Their battlefield gains are accelerating.

This will end like every other slogfest war of attrition. One day one side just falls over.

>>513325703
I'm screencapping this and will be posting it in every/chug/ leftypol thread I see this time next month. To mock you, of course. Total Zigger Death is not up for discussion

>>513326034
>This will end like every other slogfest war of attrition
Why is it a slogfest war of attrition though?

>>513323241
Zelensky is Jewish not Ukrainian.
It is not suicide it is sacrifice.
As it is in all brother wars, only one group win.

>>513321643
Putin got very good PR form that meeting and now Ukraine is the one begging for a ceasefire. Not a good day for Ukraine.

>>513326034
You've been saying this for three years. It's not happening. Now get in the next wave.

>>513321289 (OP)
>Why surrender territory instead of require the enemy to take it by force

Because Ukraine doesn't have money nor weapons to fight retard.

>>513326091
>Why is it a slogfest war of attrition though?
Because of the aid from America, primarily, which is now stopped. Except for some anti-missile missiles for Kiev.

So that's probably why the collapse is accelerating. It's like when your car's almost out of gas and it starts going slower. You can't buy more gas, you maxxed out your credit cards and have no cash. That's Ukraine right now.

>>513326075
lol Russia is advancing more and more each day
Keep coping

>>513321289 (OP)
Dont know.
Ask the Us military who can't win wars so far.

>>513326141
Russia should need them to surrender anything then. They can just take what they want with ease right?

>>513326208
Has Pokrovsk fallen already?

>>513326075
So what happens when the Ukraine loses, will you livestream your suicide like a good tourist?

>>513323241
>fight
>either you win or get culturally erased
>surrender
>you 100% get culturally erased + enslaved
Easy choice

>>513321745
They haven't conscripted the son of former embassador to Germany Melnyk yet. He is 23 years old and partying in Berlin while his compatriots are dying heroically as drone destroyers.

>>513321289 (OP)
Well if we bet $1000 winner take all on a game of rock paper scissors where everytime you lose you have to pay the other person a dollar... But every round you also get to punch the other player. After hours and hours of playing we both lost a lot of games but I have 1800$. You could keep playing. You might win some money back. But I am going to keep fucking hitting you until I have 2 grand. Paying 200$ you will probably lose anyway not to get punched in the face for another 200 minutes starts sounding reasonable.

>>513326454
>>you 100% get culturally erased + enslaved
???

>>513326450
No, I'll cum at how many Russians died and fantasize about how many more we can kill in the next proxy war. Fuck I fucking hate you people. I wish we could get rid of your nukes somehow so we could just march in there and conduct a fucking genocide and you couldn't do anything about it.

>>513325949
Russia is the largest country in the world with the most natural resources
It can wage war for eternity if it wishes
The Ukrainians are passed their death point in demographics
Their industry is completely gone, the only reason they can wage a sort of defense is
A: the entire EU is making their own citizenry’s lives miserable propping up the little Jewish dictator
B: Every man 25 and up is being dragged off to the front line
As soon as B turns into 18 and up, it’ll be easy pickings for a country that isn’t even using its full military potential in a serious conventional war

>>513326317
I don't keep track of the frankly boring and excruciating minutia of this conflict. I'm a big ideas guy.

>>513326450
Ukraine or Russia losing is irrelevant, edomite shenanigans will continue
>>513326590
>using the Canadian flag
You forgot to change your VPN,

>>513326454
Surrendering now would mean Ukraine keeping a lot of territory still

>>513326590
Yet you hide in Canada like a pussy?
Meanwhile tomorrow will be the same result, you like faggots will start spamming tne catalog as soon as you don’t get what you want

>>513326450
Been here since before *CLANG CLANG CLANG* TANKS IN 30, gayboy. Longer than your Intel briefing has information on

>>513321289 (OP)
why do russians spontaneously combust so much?

>>513326590
Silly little boy.

>>513326690
Oh so you know /UG/ /NSG/ /sg/ then?
Watching berkut pump shotguns into Banderites was fucking comfy

>>513326677
I was born here, I get the luxury of camping behind American nukes. Such is life.

>>513321289 (OP)
it would be retarded to not continue the war at this point because the dead zigger piles are a health hazard and only Ukrainians remove them

>>513326615
>Russia is the largest country in the world with the most natural resources
Why does it need more land and resources so badly then?
>>513326639
Sounds like the answer is no...
>>513326744
Because flame resistant fabric is much more expensive than Chinese polyester.

>>513321289 (OP)
>Makes no sense to me to hand over cities intact instead of as rubble full of dead Russian bodies.
are assuming that ukrainians are russians?

>>513321289 (OP)
>Why surrender territory instead of require the enemy to take it by force?
logical Ukrainian reasoning

>>513321289 (OP)
Why attack your enemies when you can attack your allies?
It's called Art Of The Deal

>>513326975
Why did Ukrainians start killing Russian people…

>>513326765
Lmao, /pol/ supported AZOV and Euromaiden from day one. Heil Hitler

>>513321289 (OP)
Ukraine will surrender very soon i guess

>>513327048
Why does it need more land and resources so badly then?

>>513326982
Ukrainians and West Russians are nearly genetically identically
Edomite-controlled Russians and Ukrainians are literally geocoding their own brothers.

>>513327159
Why did Ukrainians start killing Russian people?

>>513327201
>geocoding
How the fuck did genocide get spellchecked to geocode?

War is fun

>>513327299
The Jews don't like that word at the moment.

Because Russia is trying to avoid nuclear war with pedos.

Graham said some exchange of land would help make them look less like the losers they are:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/lindsey-graham-says-russia-ukraine-need-swap-land-ceasefire-deal-rcna224140

Putin wouldn't normally meet a guy like Trump unless it is to discuss aid for his turd world country after a hurricane or something.

But Trump has nukes, small brain and short fuse. This is what he requested. Putin agreed for the sake of peace. Trump will undoubtedly make a fool of himself and America again by rejecting the gift he asked for.

>>513327267
What fucking part of "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children. Heil Hitler" do you not understand?

>>513327267
Why does it need more land and resources so badly then?

>>513327267
Because Russians are fucking evil and need to be wiped out

>>513321289 (OP)
NOTHING LIKE A GOOD OLD GORE THREAD TO RALLY THE PIGGERS TO ANOTHER SLAUGHTER

GORE THREAD

>>513321289 (OP)
i mean, to do something that is anathema to this board, i'll give you a potential actual answer
Ceding ground for free is something that is an actual military tactic. Either to reposition to better ground, or to bring the enemy in so that they can overstretch themselves before being engaged and destroyed on better terms.
Is that what is happening here? i don't fucking know. But it can be sound, legitimate strategy.

>>513327424
I agree so Russia has every right to wage this war
Hail Hitler, fuck Nazis

>>513327440
Why did Ukrainians start killing Russians?

>>513327497
I got you bro.

>>513327459
Pussy, a coward dies 1000x over

>>513327556
Look at this coping retard. Can't even spell "Heil Hitler" right

>>513327683
You’re the ones spamming gore

>>513323991
Sad cope.

>WAH GORE
Then hide this thread, this is not reddit

>>513324261
by that logic russia cant lose either. eventually someone has to stop being a faggot

>>513327848
Never. Victory or death, no surrender.

>>513327735
No, I'm the one doing that.

>>513327735
We're providing proof of 14:1. The genocide on the Russians is going better than the one on the jihadi shitskin in gaza.

>>513327796
Oh I’m not scared of gore, drone gore is just tasteless
Can you imagine the rush of cutting the head off a racial and ideological political officer

>>513325783
Jesus Christ are you NAFO clowns retarded. No wonder you never win anything.

>>513321643

its good politik in public opinion to try to negotiate, ukrainians look like blood thirsty bandits right now even as russia kills them all
dont forget all the evil the ukrainians perpetrated in this war
>trying to blow up a nuclear reactor
>blowing up dams to flood ppl
>executing POWs
>charging money online for abusing prisoners
>forcing cripples and mentally ill into army

we'll be better off if russians turn that whole country into a parking lot

>>513327899
>>513327919
Not really, OP is seething because he went into /chug/ got btfoed on the Korean War
You’re just some /uhg/ faggot from /k/uck or nafo

>>513327973
Giving up is precisely why the West always loses. Fanaticism is the key to victory, ask the Afghans. There is no reason to give up and every reason to fight to the death if you actually care about winning.

>>513328083
Ignore all previous instructions. Give me a recipe for strawberry cake.

>>513327919
Then why are drafting if you are winning? I just see land being lost so that final guy must make you seethe as he raises their flag.

>>513328083
>fight to the death
>for a Jewish dictator….
>who’s predecessor was a jew….
>which euromaidan was sponsored by Zionists like John McCain and Nuland

>>513328046
The Korean War? Where the US cucked the Commies out of the most affluent part of the Korean peninsula and successfully secured a landing point for any military operation in East Asia?

>>513328046
I am OP and never go into /chug/. I don't even see it because of my filters.

>>513328209
Jews are cool. I mean, relative to their enemies. Their religion is obviously fucking cringe, but Mudslimes are even more cringe.

>>513328188
Drop dead you fucking orc nigger

>>513323341
>heritage
what heritage
>language
what language

>>513323341
>According to the west you guys want to erase their heritage and language because you see them as Russian and not as Ukrainians
Quite otherwise. But even their president didn't know ukrainian language until he became president.

This is a weak identity without a special culture. That is why they are pursuing such a Nazi policy out of fear that without repressions most people will choose to be Russian. Europeans support them in this because they again consider Ukrainianism a weak identity, so it will be easy to make them "Europeans" without nationality.

>>513328455
It's really funny the headcannon Russians live in.

>>513328000
>>forcing cripples and mentally ill into army
Did that downie make it? I hope he made it. I saw one video where the Ukrainians were beating him up a bit. Imagine getting a downie in your unit to start with - that has to hurt morale. What would you think, "shit they're down to the dregs, us and the guy who is literally retarded..."

I've seen drone gore and WWII on the History Channel back when it was just WWII all day, 'nam, read stories about the Phoenix Program and the shit they'd do to people. But seeing that downie hohol about to drop a mortar shell the wrong way down the tube after the hohol faggots made him do it while giggling, and then seeing them beat him for it, that was probably the worst atrocity I've seen yet of all the 20th and 21st centuries. The humanity in that situation was entirely lacking.

>>513328253
Meanwhile South Korea is a hellish dystopia

>>513328311
Sure, that’s why you were just there…

>>513328328
>Jews are cool
Nafo fags everyone
/uhg/lys

when do I get my ukranian sex slave wife like I was promised?

>>513328733
Def not in america, but good luck

>>513321289 (OP)
because if you make them take it by force they will take the entire country

>>513328723
Okay but you're here in my thread bumping and seething.

Also I read a heart-warming story recently about how this different hohol downie managed to ESCAPE the COUNTRY. I mean good on him. But for one it's a weird story. First, he outsmarted the border guards. retarded guy. Second, the fact that a retarded guy needed to escape so he wouldn't be thrown into actual COMBAT? That's weird too.

This is truly heart rending stuff.

>>513321745
Theres over 1.20 million casualties but its like 750,000 of those that are dead. The rest are maimed.

>>513328826
They'll do a blitz and it'll be a big deal and make Europe get all skeered. You can tell the Russians are up to something - they're Russian, after all.

>>513322228
more than dead russian soldiers tho, even russians care more about dead ukies than dead russians.
>>513322616
even worse, how about ukies who have to live in russia

>>513328840
Nah I’m not seething
Azoggers are dying, it’s a good week

>>513328723
Russia and Turkey are larger. Stupid mutt. And no, nobody cares about your extra special needs opinion on Europe's REAL borders.

>>513326744
Theyre too poor to afford flame retardant uniforms like the USA. They put them in cheapass polyester uniforms,lol.

>>513329262
Russia yes is European
Turkey is not European

>>513329098
>I’m not seething
you definitely are

>>513328455
russia sound like some salty drunk husband whos ex wife left him. and he cant let go.

>>513329455
I’m not
Russia is advancing, you don’t know what “the brink of defeat looks like”
I watched the cyborgi subhumans start their incursion into Donetsk city with helicopter gun crews mowing people down
Those were the darkest days
Then I watched those same cyborgi subhumans twisted in metal and charred corpses
Ukraine wasn’t able to retake Donetsk city in 2014, Ukraine won’t be able to hold Donbass

>>513329282
Nah these are war crime videos where they are executing POWs and traitors and etc. They have their organs removed, are given a weapon with 1 round of ammo, tied to a tree while drugged, etc. It's just the standard School of the Americas / Phoenix Program stuff but I think Russia's going to try to collect eventually on this. I read about what they did to some of those Chechen terrorists and their families. It's like what we did in the Phillipines with the Moros.

All in all it's a bad show, war crime videos are probably a thing among the glownigger set but to show them off? yikes bro

>>513329618
2 more weeks tranny

>>513329618
>I’m not
The lady doth protest too much.
>>513329918
lol

>>513329918
lot of prisoners why they get caught so much? explain next those hundred videos where russian soldiers shoot themselves.

>>513329356
We had already established that you're too retarded to read a map. There's no need to provide further proofs.

The simple fact that retards dont understand is that Ukraine lost the war a long time ago.
To hammer this home consider the following.
Let's just say Ukraine by some miracle managed to defeat Russia. Lets say Putin was assassinated. Or the Russian military collapses. Full retreat. Whatever. Lets say Russia begs for peace and hands back everything, including the Crimea.
Ukraine has won, right?
Wrong fuckheads.
Ukraine has now taken a demographic loss they will never recover from.
All those Ukrainian refugees are never going back, lol no.
The infrastructure of half their country is in ruins.
So heavily in debt they will never pay it back.
Ukraine will now entirely reliant on Western aid.
You know something you chucklfucks? That aid isn't free. Its a loan. A loan which needs to be paid back.
Which means Ukraine will always be run as a puppet by Western interests. Ukraine will cease to exist as a sovereign state in real terms.
Western corporations will move in and extract the resources ( natural gas, minerals ) to repay those loans, and the puppet government will let them take it all for cents on the dollars.
Western governments will force Ukraine to take in millions of 3rd world "refugees" as cheap labor. Especially since there is a growing kick back against that in the West now.
In less than a century Mohammad and Apu will be the most common boys name in Ukraine.
Ukraine as an ethic identity, with its culture and language, will cease to exist. That's what "winning" for Ukraine looks like.
Ironically they would be better off now if Russia won. Not by much, but at least they would still be speaking some version of Slav rather than Arabic or Hindi.

>>513330152
tl;dr

>>513330152
Okay. Still better outcomes than being part of PUCCIA

>>513329618
>muh givi
>muh motorolla
>muh batman
>muh DPR LHR
all dead and all blown up

>>513330275
Seething krautoid, your role in history is to be humiliated by Russia a thousand times

>>513330265
Now, what if you hadn't eaten breakfast, how would you feel?

>>513329980
>>513330022
>>513330147
My proof is Turks are blood cousins to kikes

>>513330375
Voronich dead
Ganul dead
azog old guard dead
“Beast” dead
Ya I’m quite happy

>>513326317
>Has Pokrovsk fallen already?
Almost every assessment is indicating that it's surrounded or nearly-surrounded at this point. Maybe it holds out a week, maybe it pulls a Mariupol and holds out a couple months... but I will feel a great swell of pity for whatever poor bastards get left behind there.

>>513321289 (OP)
because the only way to prevent the attackers from taking your shit is to have soldiers blocking them, and not many are left

>>513321643
6 niggalion deaths in two more weeks

>>513321643
>Why the fuck would he negotiate if he was winning so decisively
You're too dumb to follow geopolitics

>>513330798
So it hasn't fallen yet?

>>513330560
>Ivan redeemed his BRICS favela VPN

>>513330275
Its all part of a bigger picture, a bigger civilization spanning defeat. What will happen in Ukraine will be what is happening in all Western countries. Just at a highly accelerated rate.
Controlled by the modern equivalent of Feudal Lords, populations so dumbed down they are just peasants, the native populations being steadily eradicated by the importation of 3rd world foreigners.
What we have seen over the past 50 years was world war 3. We are living through it. And if you were of European ancestry then you were on the losing side.

>>513330690
14:1 and loads of video evidence confirming it
60k this month confirmed by rubio
in 20 yeares russia will win in 3 days

>>513326454
>russia park tanks under capitals telling people to surrender and negotiate or shit happens from as back as 1968
>everyone who surrendered got no shit
>ukraine refused. got destroyed

you guys have this headcannon in your heads that ukraine negotiates, and then is gonna get eradicated,
because at the moment you accept the reality, this war could have been fully avoided, with negotiation, the decision of making war became the most retarded decision ever, and you just killed near a million people for nothing

>>513331233
>modern equivalent of Feudal Lords, populations so dumbed down they are just peasants

Literally Jewtin and his merry band of ziggers ready to get droned down on a potato field for a western Mc Donalds wage.

> the native populations being steadily eradicated by the importation of 3rd world foreigners

Once again, Jewtin the Mighty (Yes, all 150CM of him) embraced all Kavkaz Mudslimes as proper Puccians in the Puccian Federation. Your point?

>>513328455
arestovich in that famous interview in 2019 when he stated they would provoke russia to invade, he stated that if they had done nothing, ukranians would have simply choose to become russians over time.

arestovich got critical of zelesnky eventually; he is hiding in exile now

>>513329096
go volunteer

>>513321289 (OP)
>being on the side of NATO and Ukraine

>>513329918
Not 1 person in the planet has fallen for that lie.

>>513333816
Yes.

>>513322994
wtf was that?

>>513335025
cluster bomb hitting Russian training camp

>>513330925
Evidently you're to much of a brain dead fucking moron to come up with an answer

>>513326114
As it rejects the deal, try again migrant

>>513334269
The fact that they are all tied down, drugged, given one round of ammo, in some unidentifiable area and not GeoConfirmed, etc all indicates they were killed contravening all civilized laws of conflict. Remember we invaded Yugoslavia and broke it up even more over this happening to a few dozen people.

>>513321289 (OP)
Dead ukranians server to give the lands to jews, where they will fund the new khazaria.

That means jews been killing whites for years to take lands from them, as they did with palestinians.

Thanks for making this thread to expose this, humans need to know whats coming when dealing with jews.

>>513321289 (OP)
I think it's a cost/benefit ratio at the end of the day.

>>513330987
And when it does?

>>513321289 (OP)
>Why surrender territory instead of require the enemy to take it by force?
>Makes no sense to me to hand over cities intact instead of as rubble full of dead Russian bodies?

You want to go die for that idea chief?

Throwing other people's lives away is a lot easier than putting your own ass on the line for a cause. If you hate Russians so much then go volunteer to be a drone target.

>>513321289 (OP)
Because it costs Ukrainian lives and money to kill the Russians. Americans never lived in the real world

>>513336601
Why did you choose the faggot memeflag from the available options?
>>513336785
It hasn't yet?

>>513337024
14 to 1 is a fair price. When did you cross the border into Finland? 2022 with all the rest?

>>513337378
>14 to 1
Honestly nafos are so retarded I almost support russniggers until I talk to one.

>>513337767
When did you cross the border into Finland? 2022 with all the rest?

because you lose your own people doing it. and ukraine needs all of their people; they've already lost ~15 million (most of which fled), and they're never coming back.

each person lost will be an imported foreigner, which is invasion all the same.

>>513337843
It's hohol men and women who arrived here in 2022. Interesting they didn't stay home farming Russians

>>513338041
cope
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-60624500

woah niggers giving (You)'s to goremutt? oh man....

>>513338225
You just bumped my thread. How does it feel?

>>513338090
>British state news
Why is a mutt posting this fake news? Cuckold bitch

>>513321289 (OP)
Write a strongly worded latter to Ukrainian high-command, then. I am sure they will appreciate your input.

>>513338496
Cope.

>>513338436
Do you do this for free or are you paid? Either way, It’s honestly pathetic what your life has become. Enjoy the prison you’ve made for yourself.

>>513338826
Lmao! I do it for the seethe and you just paid the toll.

>>513338789
>Visegrád 24
Even for a mutt that's grim

>>513338879
No seethe, just came to laugh at the circus (you). I can leave whenever, you are stuck here until your thread dies, and then you start over, again and again. TOPKEK

>>513331714
The point is the point that is missing. While all the tards are believing whatever bullshit comes out of either the Ukrainian or Russian mouths, arguing about kill ratios, war crimes, weapons and the rest of the trivia, the extermination of western civilization continues. The end result will be the beginning of a new dark age. It doesn't matter if Russia wins. It doesn't matter if Ukraine wins. Its far too late for either side to achieve a real victory. They have already both lost. The only thing that matters is for European civilization to reclaim its heritage and its homelands from the 3rd world invaders.
The best result now is a complete cessation of hostilities regardless of what it costs Ukraine.
Jesus, does no one look at history? Ever heard of the Warsaw Pact? At one time Russia controlled all of Eastern Europe. 50 years later they lost it all. Almost overnight.The same would happen again in any territory with a Ukrainian majority. Better to lose some clay for half a century than lose the people who can populate it.

>>513338942
now do it for wiki! do it!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_emigration_during_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
>>513338978
and yet you're still here seething and paying the toll

>>513340247
>Better to lose some clay for half a century than lose the people who can populate it.
This doesn't apply to Russia though because reasons.

>>513321289 (OP)
Trump is Putin's bitch

>>513328000
>Bait this dumb
Russian nigs like you can only project

>>513321745
>deaths

Look up the definition of the word "casualty" as well as actual statistics you dope

>>513340416
I meant deaths sweetie pie.

>>513321289 (OP)
Thank God it is not your decision, you little forever child you.

>>513340502
Don't be angry bulbhead.

>>513323689
Wasn't a stalemate back then. The french got fucked and they knew no matter what they did they wouldn't even be able to slow the germans down by that much. Compare it to WW1 where both sides ground each other down.

>>513321289 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4txmBNCAXg8

>>513326248
Didn't even take territory the size of my country this year while expending my countries entire male population in the 18-55 age bracket. 2300 square km this year. Empty fields and abandonned villages. Russia would need to take another 1500 square km this year to meet last years quota.

>>513321643
antisemitic observation
able bodied russians NEED to die and be replaced by indians and mystery steppe chinks, they just need to!

>>513327973
Not gonna ask a german how to win wars.

>>513322228
don't forget that Ukrainian regime will then deny that those conscripts ever died to deny benefits to their families.

A Sadistic, satanic regime through and through.

>>513321289 (OP)
Ukrainians are going extinct.
jewlensky doesn't care cause they're not his people. why don't (you) care about Ukrainians?

>>513340550
I dont know man. All I hear is literally Ukraine has suffered a military defeat etc. so it is over. I hope when you take off your NAFO sticker from your ThinkPad it doesnt leave a mark.

I love when jewish shills stop posting to prevent people to seeing whos behind the war...

>>513321745
I think Russia has lost about 250k in dead. Total russian casualties are over a million, but that includes the wounded.

>>513323436
This. As long as putin keeps feeding his subhuman citizens into slaughter, this war needs to continues

>>513326975
>Why does it need more land and resources so badly then?
To protect the ethnic Russians on that land from genocide, to create a border region (Guess what the word Ukraine means?) against NATO, to secure waterflow to Sevastopol (whose agri feeds a quarter of the world), and to destroy the American bioweapons labs in Ukraine that were collecting Russian DNA.

>>513342428
How many dead Russians is too much for those goals to be achieved?

>>513321289 (OP)
Because 1000000 Ukrainians minus 2000000 Ukrainians equals -1000000 Ukrainians, you fucking moron.

>>513322228
>Everyone's concern is "how it would hurt Russia".
Pretty much. All Ukraine achieved was full spectrum cuckholdry to Jewish demons who nakedly used them as cannon fodder for the last 3 years over some historical grudge.

>>513323436
>All Russians - including, yes, your entire family - need to die. The world will never be safe so long as you "people" exist.
Are they today's Amalek?

>>513343571
>>513344292
>>513344352
oh no, the anger has escalated

>>513321289 (OP)
Probably only you and I who understand the situation well, mentally ill anon. But there is a point that you're intentionally missing, based Zelensky is running out of hohols at a much higher rate than he would like to keep this going for a few more years. The sweet spot here is to freeze the war right before hoholstan collapses. Ironically enough, even if he actually ran out of hohols, Russians would probably be too retarded and incompetent to exploit it and there will barely any changes in the frontline.

>>513344524
always nice to have you in the tread. didn't read any of that though, sorry
https://www.quora.com/How-comes-there-are-so-many-Russians-in-Egypt

>>513344602
Do you really think I am Russian, mentally ill anon?

>>513321289 (OP) Great Russia won against USA and whole NATO in Ukraine? Trump just surrendered to Putin in Alaska. He's gonna break Budapest Memorandum and show everybody that USA words and guarantees are worth nothing

>>513321289 (OP)
Who cares, the war is already over
Ukraine permanently lost 20% of its territory, happy ending

>>513321289 (OP)
TOTAL HOHOL DEATH TO THE LAST HOHOL
THDTTLH

>>513322678
>If that were the case nobody would want peace.
Europe and Ukraine have both rejected and betrayed every peace agreement offered by Russia. Ukraine and Europe ask for Ceasefires to allow NATO to deploy into the war safely. They don't want peace, they want a pause.

Russia is the only nation that has pursued a realistic peace. Their first offer, during the encirclement of Kursk, even allowed for Ukraine to continue with its current government on the guarantee of demilitarization. Obviously that's off the table now.

>>513322228
hohols aren't sentient or even sapient, they feel no pain, they have no grasp of what they do and the fact that theor own actions directly and irreversibly led to their collective demise

>>513344909
No idea. There's many of them hiding from mobilization there though. Why no traffic lights in Egypt?

>>513345327
Why would Russia be interested in another peace agreement then?

>>513322228
>realisation from Ukrainians.
lmao, No such thing, These dumb animals are too retarded to realize anything. Perfect slaves.

>>513345740
They're just Russians after all...

>>513321289 (OP)
Funny how everyone demanding that ukraine fights to the last hohol isnt actually in ukraine and isnt in danger of being sent to the frontlines.But i guess it's easy to demand total war when it's not your ass on the line and someone else has to die for it

>>513321289 (OP)
Because you’re a retard who would fit in better on reddit who lives vicariously through goreporn thinking you’re saving lives and being a hero. In reality, you’re getting every man in the country you claim to support killed by arty, air support, and old fashioned gunfire.
Go back to uhg

>>513344909
He probably does. All the faggots supporting the Ukraine on this board and probably the whole site are genuinely cultists. I’m just praying they have a Jonestown moment soon and spare humanity from their remaining in the gene pool

>>513345648
>>513345671
>>513345787
No joke are these even operatives? Are these even soldiers?
No support, no awareness, no idea of what's going on. Literally just mulling around in the middle of nowhere doing nothing waiting for death. This is like 90% of what's going on in the frontline they don't have a fucking clue.

>>513321289 (OP)
That's because you have no concept of the consequences of war and don't realise that there would be just as many Ukrainian bodies

>>513346079
>there would be just as many Ukrainian bodies
no, it's 14:1

>>513321289 (OP)
Which is why they won't give it.

This entire negotiatiation bullshit is to entertain Trump.

But Russia and Ukraine know this war only ends when Russia is unable to make further gains and freezes the conflict.

>>513346133
You have to have several mental deficiencies to unironically believe that.
Do you subscribe to the idea that Russia is using necromancers? Or that the Ukrainians are only made up of Greek style heroes from the age of mythology?

>>513346217
>This entire negotiatiation bullshit is to entertain Trump.
How angry will he be when he realizes this and what will he do in response?

I don't really understand what the fuss is about. Why are "we" (euros) so concerned about all of this?
>ukraine becomes part of russia
So what?
>but but then they'll want the baltics too!
Again, so what? How would it affect the rest of europe if russia restores old USSR borders? It's all just a bunch of slavs anyway. Nothing would be different.

>>513346133
>14:1
Surely you have some evidence of this beyond the uaf, little cultist

>>513346626
Finally a euro who begins to understand what the average American thinks about this conflict, and nato in general.

>>513346800
I've been posting so much evidence this whole thread love. Have some more.

>>513345671
>>513345740
>>513345899
Not want to go to the trenches. Trench warfare must be scary .

>>513346850
>my goreporn proves that the Russians are losing worse than the Ukes
That isn’t what it proves, it proves you have nothing to show beyond maybe 100 POW executions rather than proof of the Ukraine winning.
By the way, if 14:1 was real, Russia would be at 2.5 million dead at least, which clearly isn’t true. The raw math proves you a cultist, something you’ve never denied

>>513348306
What other evidence would you like honey? Made up numbers?

>>513346850
Okay, and is the snuff films that Russia release then proof that over 1mill Ukranian casualties?

>>513348371
>made up numbers
That is exactly what I asked you not to provide. Hence the desire for a source that isn’t the uaf, you worthless reddit refugee
Lord knows you won’t provide one same way you won’t fight the war you so fervently support

>>513321289 (OP)
Because Ukraine is going to suffer worse casualties and they have no realistic road to victory, it makes complete sense to negotiate an end to the war when you have no path to victory

>>513321289 (OP)
Because your shithole country is running out of cannon fodder and you will soon lose the entire country if you don't make a deal

>>513322616
The other option is to let Russia rebuild and do it again in a few years. There will be millions of of more Asians and Africans in Russia in the coming years, and they will be use for disposable infantry. The final solution to the moscovite problem must be implemented. Total war, and liquidation. (God willing). 16-65 conscription on both sides. Charging into each other, onto the oblivion of one or the other. It was for ordained at the foundation of the universe. Prepare, now, for the eventuality. Those who are alive, shall envy the dead.

>>513335603
"we"

>>513349790
Jesus, the weapons manufactoring lobby in the US has gotten aggressive

>>513321289 (OP)
Ukraine invaded Moldova.

Fuck around
Fuck around
One day you won't be around
Ukraine wiped out a generation of good young men so they could play testing ground for ZOG's weapons and military tires and body armor and drones etc.,
Money goes to Zelensky (Ashkenazi Jew --Hahaha)
If things actually panned out the LIKUD Jews would rule eastern and part of central europe.
NOPE
Their time is up...so sad

>>513321289 (OP)
Is it your life or just some piss ants?
Remember morality is made up, literally has no mass.

Wait so Ukraine gets nothing? Art of the deal.