Thread 513330705

Actually it's still cheap. I don't drink hard liquor but I use it to make tincture of myrrh at home because it's so much cheaper. Anyway I don't go through it very quick but my last batch I made at the beginning of COVID finally ran out and I had to buy another bottle of vodka and it was the EXACT same price for the same brand. Monopolova, it was $20 for the 1.5L bottle. That's the most neutral of the less expensive vodkas.

This is with tariffs and inflation. How is it possible? You know how...

>>513330705 (OP)
Drinking has declined for a while. Most young people drank way too much before they even turned 18. I drank more before I turned 21 than I will for the rest of my life, by multiple times.

>>513330705 (OP)
It's super easy to get dirt cheap alcohol. The fuck are you on about?

I think it's other factors, social drinking died out to a large degree with COVID, zoomers are too poor to afford rent and doordash along with subs and lootboxes, let alone booze, weed is legal and cheap, CHEAP.

>>513330705 (OP)
Young people don't drink, shit example.

>>513330705 (OP)
Millenials have quit drinking in our late 20s. There was a whole generational movement, literal NA micro brews became a thing. Bars without alcohol too

I am sober, and I am not happy

zoomers are evolving past such trivial past times.

>>513330705 (OP)
No, zoomers don't drink.

>>513330705 (OP)
There are other reasons for that

>>513330705 (OP)
Dui laws

>>513331113
Yeah that's pretty much when I quit drinking too. I'm poor, alcohol is pricey and fattening and I'm fat enough as it is.

>>513330705 (OP)
i had this for like 3 months now, it was $70. never really got into drinking

>>513330705 (OP)
why would anyome drink wen you can smoke wed

>>513330705 (OP)
>>513331108
>>513331222
Because they are poor as fuck lol

everyone smoking/vaping now. beer/hard alcohol is now seen as for old depressed divorced dudes. wine is now a joke for single old wine aunts and cat ladies. the "craft" beer fad is over and seen as basedboy tier cringe hobby like playing pokemon go or fantasy football.

and as others said - the people who DID/DO still drink , young people who go to clubs, etc, all got effected with covid and all the shutdowns. many social places shut down and never came back so many normie social drinkers just stopped.

Legalize marijuana and make it suck and then bring back prohibition but don't go out of your way to enforce it except when investigating women making false accusations. I just fixed everything.

>>513330705 (OP)
it has begun

>>513330705 (OP)
Can confirm.
I only do benzos, smoke weed, and do the odd little cheeky bump of meth

>>513330705 (OP)
dating happens on instagram and other apps now, no one goes to bars and clubs anymore to find dates. this accelerated during covid, nightlife still hasn't returned to normal.

>>513331574
Is insta as good as I hear?

>>513330705 (OP)
I bought an oil can (24oz for euro fags) of voodoo ranger juice force (like 9.5% abv) for like $2.50 the other day. Booze is cheap af

>>513331113
Nigga I’m an almost 40 millennial and I still drink too much.

>>513331167
Yeah the chain vaping 40 ounce galaxy gas can huffing zoomers are incredibly enlightened

>>513331113
>t. faggotron maximus

>>513330705 (OP)
Reject the liquid jew. The jew fears the crawlspace chicken farmer

fent is cheaper

>>513330705 (OP)
The 2 main beer companies bought up every brewery with decent products and turned it all into the same swill.

>>513331308
It’s probably better you don’t honestly. You’re better off sober.

>>513330705 (OP)
Can't afford alcohol groceries fast food or rent.
Buying a new car is something only wealthy people do.

>>513330705 (OP)
Thats because kids are all hitting carts in their sleeve during school. Alcohol is old people shit

>>513330705 (OP)
Boozes are scum cocksuckers. I've never met a drunk in my life that didn't deserve to be beaten. They're all narcissists too, drinking makes them even more narcissist.
My parents are lifelong "functional alcoholics" and they're not even human anymore, never were, I didn't even have parents, I might as well have raised myself.

I can't believe how sick & deranged boomers are, all these degenerate behaviors and worthless things they've done and now they try to rationalize no one doing it anymore as some kind of "mistake" or "signs of the economy". Its just unreal.

>>513330705 (OP)
I don't know what the companies did, but their beer sucks. They changed something and it all tastes like shit.

>>513331554
You sound like the average citizen in my town lol.

>>513331160
I fell for the faggot sober meme. I drink 700 ml of 9 percent soju every other night now and feel amazing. I work out and don’t over eat, and ever since drinking my memory improved and wellness went up. I’ll cut it down to three times a week eventually but idgaf right now, feeling good,

>>513332519
Hell yeah! Crawl space chicken farmer!

I bought a bottle of vodka and it was almost $40.
Don't drink (I'm not dumb...lol), I use it to make homemade vanilla extract.

>>513330705 (OP)
starting in the 1960, kids moved from alcohol to pot. Those early hippies are now great-grandparents, and still smoking

>>513333145
You’re clearly a retard spending $40 on a bottle to make extract when cheaper options are available and would work and taste just as good.

>>513331252
Also where we are at even finding a place to park can be hell. City council was wondering why people aren't even going to restaurants...you literally have to go outside every 30m to put more money in the parking meter cause you are only allowed 30m at a time. Miss that? Its almost a $300 ticket. I don't bother going into the city anymore.

>>513330705 (OP)
A fifth of demitri or other rot got vodka is 7 to 12 bucks depending on city. I drink that daily, it's cheap as fuck.

Go to bar already with 6 drinks in you, have a half pint flask (4 drinks) in your pocket, slow roll 2 or 3 drinks at the bar while going to bathroom to do shots.

You get to get fucked up cheap and pickup up loose barfly whores

t.39 degenerate alcoholic

>>513333365
I have no understanding of alcohol pricing or quality. It just seemed like it was the most pure without any additives or anything weird. Obviously the Polish (and Russians) know their vodka, so I'll leave it to them.

>>513330705 (OP)
Sorry, I just can't afford to care anymore

>>513330705 (OP)
rookie numbers guys. im pounding a hazy right now to offset our failures and shortcomings.

>>513333572
The barfly whores are the reason I never go out, fuck other people but not literally.

>>513333633
It’s vodka dude, there aren’t additives unless it’s flavored.
Try rum and bourbon next, they turn out well for extracts. I particularly like bourbon vanilla for things like cremes.

>>513333844
What's wrong with barfly whores? Those drunk BPDemons are so much fun

>>513332710
it seems like it. i dont even get what the appeal is. spinny, nausea, pass out. not what i find fun

>>513331003
Yes, young people cutting out alcohol is a good trend.

>>513333572
>have 9-10 drinks and do extra shots in the bathroom
jesus man, get your shit together. i bet you sound like a marble mouthed faggot by the end of the night and dont even realize it.

>>513334193
kek did someone actually do that it doesn't look shoopd

>>513333633
>>513333902
I should add, unlike vodka extract quality actually matters with bourbon and rum extract. Bourbon should be mid shelf quality, and to rum I personally like using mount gay because it’s good, cheap, and the name is funny.

How do you guys get pussy?

>>513332519
How does this even work? Will you go under there to shovel out their shit? What if one dies, it'll stink up the whole house.

>>513333149
hippies were correct about everything except hygiene and acoustic guitars

alcohol is a shackle. glad people are drinking less of it. though they're smoking weed instead which is still retarded

>>513330891
>>513330926
>>513331091
>Actually it's still cheap
>I think it's other factors
>zoomers are too poor to afford booze
kys multiposting retard

i'm too old for hangovers

>>513334199
I'm an alcoholic anon, 8 drinks makes me stop shaking and function normally

>>513334044
Yes, if you just straight pound liquor that happens. You probably shouldn’t drink like a prairie nigger on the rez and pace yourself.
But really some people drink because it helps them cope with stuff. It’s also definitely genetic no matter what anyone tells you.

>>513334516
fair enough. i almost got there myself once, but fixed my habits. was tough but doable.
is there any feasible way to get out of that rut, once youre shaking, on your own?

>>513334495
why's it retarded? it relaxes my body physically, highly anti inflammatory, and calms my gi system.

>>513333633
There is no justifiable reason to use expensive vodka for extracts or (most) infusions. You could obtain the cheapest possible bottom-shelf rotgut vodka, run it through a Brita filter twice or thrice, and secure exactly the same result as spending 3x or 4x more capital on premium vodka.

>>513334516
You know that you smell right? Like people can smell it on you. It’s literally in your bones too.
I know that smell very well, my dad and his friends were all raging alcoholics, I’m talking pounding down a fifth of rot gut bottom shelf whiskey or plastic bottle of vodka a day. They all had that alcoholic smell, like stale produce.
I used to work with dead people a lot, I could smell that smell down to their bones, even inside their bones. Down in their cancellous and marrow.

Booze is dirt cheap. Zoomers don't drink, they smoke weed and eat sketchy xanax bars.

>>513331552
this artist blatantly steals rick and morty jokes and tries to pass them off as his own! shame

>>513334504
>>zoomers are too poor to afford booze
This is literally it. Older generations haven't given millenials or zoomers SHIT while relying on them and immigrants to do all the work.

TKD TBD

>>513334671
Yeah, I actually. I've been sober for 3 months but before was actually drinking 2 fifths a day (30+ drinks)

I've successfully tapered down by subtracting one drink a day for a month in the past multiple times... But now when I want to get sober I go to the e.r. and they give me benzos and barbiturates for a few days

I fucking hate being sober and have scheduled my relapse for October 1st

>>513330705 (OP)
Alcohol use will go up if they ban porn.

They're changing the recipe of beers they all taste like shit and leave you bloated with a headache.

>>513330705 (OP)
Alcohol taste bad and is expensive.

>>513334996
>But now when I want to get sober I go to the e.r. and they give me benzos and barbiturates for a few days
can anyone just go to the ER for some benzo?

It's Republicans giving up alcohol, which makes me think maybe the "everyone is switching to weed" explanation might not be the full story.

>>513330705 (OP)
They're counting those suburban married couples who used to buy like 20 bottles of wine monthly, then downsized to 4. People are just saving money instead of throwing it away.

>t. Delivery guy

>>513331321
This. I’m finna smoke some Quantum Niglet OG right about now.

>>513330705 (OP)
I'm a Millennial and I've never had an alcoholic drink. Never done any drugs either. I live in Seattle and I've never even smoked pot. I've just never had the desire to fuck up how my brain works.

>>513330705 (OP)
Drinking is fake and gay, and has so much punishment if done slightly wrong, it'll fuck up your whole life

>>513335387
kinda. you gotta be for real though, they can tell. ive gotten librium in the past. they can give like three days worth.

>>513335387
>can anyone just go to the ER for some benzo?
Yes, I've done it in countless cities in the u.s. just tell them you are a severe alcoholic with history of withdrawal and seizures with withdrawals

If you don't have a history in their hospital system they will usually give you Librium, Ativan or Valium and stabilize you then give you a prescription and discharge you. If you become a frequent flyer, they'll admit you.
If you are just trying to score benzos, read up on alcohol withdrawal symptoms. They are easy as fuck to fake

>>513335513
for me? it's Brain Rape x Cookies

>>513335460
That's an interesting statistic. I wonder what drives it.

>>513335596
You are such a faggot. This place fucks your brain up more than drugs and alcohol

>>513334389
just put moss in there and an opossum

>>513330705 (OP)
Are we in the GREATEST DEPRESSION yet?

>>513335744
You're a retarded addict, what do you know?

>>513334297
Jej yeah the label is strange, the text st the very top and bottom looks shooped, but the merchant in the background looks real.

>>513330705 (OP)
sugar + water + yeast
Cheat codes these days

The drinking habits of Americans have been steadily declining for a while. Millennials and zoomers simply don't drink like boomers and gen x did.

"The one who drinks this brew will sin in thought, word, and deed. He will see good as evil and evil as good. Even the most modest person will act indecently when drunk. The wisest man will babble foolishly."
-Shakyamuni Buddha

>>513335712
It's such a big drop in a small period of time, I'm tempted to think it's a statistical error.

People are noticing, The wealth sparse, the clown shows are dying, and now the distractions are becoming nulled.

Tick tock.

>>513335831
Indeed

>>513335712
Sauce: https://news.gallup.com/poll/693362/drinking-rate-new-low-alcohol-concerns-surge.aspx

>>513335967
probably just means young americans are registering republican

>>513334810
Okay good to know.

>>513330705 (OP)
Gen z is poor as shit lmaoo

Indians and AI took all the jobs

>>513332547
This is true

Loads of gen z and millenials ODing

literally a college graduate is competing with thousands of Indians with AI generated scripts.

>>513336607
you copied my reply you Nigger cracker faggot

Because it stinks and makes you fat. Pot is better.

>>513336607
College graduates drink the most. So maybe that's driving them to drink and they're able to afford to do so.

>>513330705 (OP)
Okay, I have to call pause flor a minute.
Source: I'm an alcoholic.

You can buy 6% alcohol 710ml's for $1.29. In some areas, this is just as cheap as water, and ALWAYS cheaper than soda or ANY other Liquid.

The inflation argument works for literally any other product to ever exist EXCEPT for alcohol.

Alcohol is the one thing that has disproportionately NOT kept up with inflation.
I can buy a fifth of Vodka for $8. This has nothing to do with "Americans can no longer afford alcohol." This is Israeli Nigger/Pajeet psyop.

>>513330705 (OP)
kek
i do love watching the central bankers telling people they can't have what they already do

zoomers grew up with degenerate alcoholic gen x parents, neighbors, etc. and have antipathy for drunkeness

next question

>>513330705 (OP)
I can afford it I just don’t drink it because I’m not a trailer trash retard

>>513335215
Im starting to wonder this too. Beer today just kinda sucks, doesnt give me any euphoria or buzz or anything. When I try to drink nowadays it just makes me feel sleepy and gives me a headache. Maybe Ive just gotten older. But if young people arent drinking either, maybe its this way for everyone.

>>513337004
For good stuff it's a 200$ a week habit.
For ale. You can't. I enjoy.

>>513332497
>if you dont drink alcohol you're gay
>if you dont watch sportsball you're gay
>if you dont have hookups with random women you're gay

animal house and friends successfully psy-op'd an entire generation of boomer/gen xers

>>513330705 (OP)
Alcohol is cheaper than it has been in years, especially if the objective is merely to get drunk. A liter of good vodka is around 7$, same price as a beer from a restaurant. A liter of cheap fortified wine for niggers (like cisco wine) is 4$. It used to be higher a few years back.

It's that most young people don't consume alcohol, or if they do in extremely sparse quantities. If you only drink a few drinks of whiskey a week a normal bottle of jack daniels will last months and you'll be spending like 50$ a year on alcohol.

>>513331113
>whole generational movement
maybe in portland oregon you queer

>>513336973
There's only a six point difference (50% vs 56%) between young adults and other adult in drinking rate. Income is the biggest gap (39% vs 66%) and education (41% and 66%).

>>513337294
and who makes more income? the fresh out of college new hire or the 60 year old boomer?

>>513336829
I was a hardcore pothead but now only do edibles/carts. MAYBE a joint if I'm the the middle of the woods/on top of a mountain. The smell of combusted cannabis is just nigger tier and the residue on glass is like some black tar heroin fiend shit. Bongs/bubblers/are just old people shit. Even rigs are on the way out. No teenager is flexing his Illadelph. That's grandpa shit.

>>513330705 (OP)
Zoomers dont drink because drinking is largly a social activity and zooms arent social and have no friends. They smoke pot instead.

>>513330705 (OP)
Booze at bars is super expensive. My buddy went to Vegas and paid $60 for two drinks at a bar.

In contrast, it's about $15 for a gallon of the cheapest Vodka. I should also tell you why it's so cheap. The Smirnov's vodka plant in Detroit was in Allen Park along I-94, right next to the Lay's potato chip factory. The potatoes rejected for potato chips are perfectly fine to make vodka from, and the vodka plant got their feedstock from Lays. Basically, vodka is made from rejected potatoes, and that's basically someone else's garbage. Just mix it as follows 1/3 vodka, 1/3 water, 1/3 any type of juice (preferably Ocean Spray pomegranate)

>>513337337
Doesn't matter. Age is a specific category for which data was collected and reported. You're trying to find a second order explanation for something for which there is first order data. You just flunked the first pop quiz of Stats 101 but please go ahead and reply some more to show your ignorance of the most basic information. You know your ego won't let you not respond angrily over you having looked like a complete retard writing the equivalent of 2+2=5.

I tried to purchase some tools for a new mechanic job...even the cheap tools are so outrageously beyond the level of what I am being paid, I had to put back basic tools because I could not afford it...
The cost of living is entering a fucking crocodile death spin shredding every consumer in the nation and on the planet, and the kike hebrew freemason ZOG are happy to see you get wiped out, they will replace you with wetback illegal spics of just offshore the entire factory to the communist dictatorship of China.

And if you even so much as post your displeasure online....10% of the god they worship Money Mormon FBI agents will visit your home to announce the displeasure of their superior golem hebrew masters.

How can I fix your kike golem masters shit at my fucking job, if your nigger kike freemason hebrew ZOG overlords who own the businesses, refuse to pay me even a basic living wage to buy the fucking tools to fix their kike nigger golem shit for them you stupid fucking brain dead retarded FBI golem ass clowns....

Here I know you mormon FBI retards are dumb so I will help you out....
Imagine if the Sig you carry as an FBI agent cost you 4 months salary....but only because the jews you protect with that Sig, stole all of the money out of your paycheck....
SHALOM Mormon retarded FBi agents
PS suck the fattest wet fart out of my puckered asshole
All of you
Yes you reading this
Suck my brown nigger kike pink white mans asshole

>>513337462
Smirnov got pricey when they started adding shitty flavors and sororitutes starting drinking that stuff like bottled water. Suddenly they were making money.

Why should I drink at all?

>>513330705 (OP)
let me guess.. even alcohol is expensive there?
lmao. what a fucking scam

>>513330705 (OP)
>go to a liquor store
>white claw variety pack is $20
I legitimately don't understand it.

>>513337462
>Basically, vodka is made from rejected potatoes, and that's basically someone else's garbage
I'm perfectly okay with this. I don't really drink vodka that much but that wouldn't put me off

>>513330705 (OP)
Orr... Maybe it's, like, that people just don't enjoy inducing retardation with liquid brain damage anymore?
The fact that anyone has ever enjoyed that shit is mind-blowing to me. Shit's even more retarded than weed.

>>513337529
Purchasing used tools is very cheap if you don't buy from pawnstores. Every junkie is selling their shit or stolen items. Just don't go walking around with some other man's name on it.
But this is obviously a troll/bait post just like the OP.

>>513334830
that's gross bro

>>513337781
The point is that should make the bottle cost about a dollar. The price gouging on alcohol is insane to the point that it would be illegal in most industries but in this case most of it is government related taxes and fees.

>>513331160
Whether I'm sober or not, I'm not happy. Feel like shit either way too.

>>513330705 (OP)
I buy 1.5 Liter arak vat plus 2.5 liter vat moonshine for 20 USD

that's like 200 beers worth of alcohol

>>513337337
There are no 60 year old boomers , nigger

>>513334830
Thank fucking God my sister sobered up. I couldn't stand that smell on her.

Millions of spics deported. Tequila and beer sales drop. Surprised?

>>513330705 (OP)
I could go drink one of the cans of beer in the fridge to make you happy I guess.
>t. zoomer

>>513337691
Yeah, well for me, I drink with a purpose, to go to bed and get some solid sleep. Going out to a bar is a waste of money and I sure as hell don't need a $10,000 DUI bill. I could ask my wife to be the designated driver, but then she NEVER gets to catch a buzz, and that isn't fair. So, a small bit of vodka is what I do. Not enough to have to wake up and take a piss during the night.

Side note, if you have teenagers in the house, allow them to partake in alcohol once in a while. It's not a big deal. My daughter was having some of MY vodka unbeknownst to me, and trying to hide it by adding water to the jug to cover her tracks. After a few weeks of this, I began to wonder why I was getting so habituated to alcohol and I had to drink more to get the same effect. Well, she was diluting MY booze, and it probably went to about 75% water, 25% vodka in the bottle. I told her IDGAF if she has a drink. It is part of our culture and even Jesus turned water into wine, which suggests alcohol consumption is endorsed by God.

At any rate, I might as well catch a buzz and come back to this thread in 10 minutes to see what people say about this.

>>513337529
I feel your pain, and would like to tell you Ford Motor Company gives its skilled tradesmen a $1500 a year tool allowance. Get into a union shop, and some of your problems are solved.

>>513336592
first rehab was half-alcoholics half-heroin/meth. second rehab was half-alcoholics half-fent/meth. fentanyl really fucking came in quick

>>513338508
Aint no unions in the south
Just the "Hallelujah" of living below the poverty line while doing all of the work, and the shekel movers live like kings and do no labor....

Reminds me of Freemasonry in that regard.
Masons claim to be brick layers, yet the vast majority with their clean hands and pristine aprons and white gloves, they never put down even a single brick....
....ironic...

>>513336829
>Pot is better.

If you're a loser and/or a nigger.

>>513330705 (OP)

Charanda's are dirty cheap like 1$ le litré

>>513332519
Ha, gross.
First there will be chicken shit, then there will be chicken death because chickens need sunlight for life (and eggs), and then there will be rats.
You do you though.

>>513337292
most of the major cities. Half the people I know quit drinking even in the music scene. The only ones who still drink weekly are fuckups. I do live in a large left wing city though

>>513330705 (OP)
my consumption is way down but it's 100% due to costs

there's no such thing as a cheap pint anymore

i also don't drink less craft for the same reason -- it's not competitive

I drink, few drinks sometimes for a few days, then nothing for several days.
Alcohol makes me healthier, but only quality stuff. Half the booze takes shortcuts and gives headaches even in small amounts. This is not the alcohol but additives ( which are not on label) and fusil oils.
Good stuff doesn't do that unless you get dehydrated or drink enough to pickle your brain.
Good stuff uses traditional fermentation without crap additives. But determining good stuff takes work because alcohol additives are off label, and some junk is mid or high priced, and some good stuff only mid priced. You can't go just by price.

I am fit in good shape. Someone in different shape or genetics may process differently.

People that don't drink are actualy less healthy than those that drink lightly.
At least white men.
Drinking lightly reduces heart attacks and clears plaques from arteries in healthy fit people.
It helps with metabolizing and clearing certain things in the system dissolving while intoxicated, then clearing out while sober.
Drinking too much or frequently reverses this and causes damage and delayed metabolization.

But alcohol is currently cheap. While the rest of my groceries have skyrocketed, with beef double what it was during covid, alcohol is the same price or even less.
I don't drink out though, everyone has raised prices on everything consumed on location by a lot.

>>513337032
the recipes arent changing, at least for macro.
craft on the other hand, is getting more potent, and hops, being a cousin (so to speak) of cannabis, is actually adding to both the psychoactive experience of drinking the beer, and the results of drinking it, as it also augments digestion a little bit.
easier to get heartburn and headaches with ipas, even if they are relatively low alcohol (5-7 ABV).

been slugging hazies left and right, and the heartburn and whatnot went away over time. you just have to get used to the hops, especially the double/triple dry hopped, and cryo stuff. all the terpenes are way more concentrated.

>>513330705 (OP)
>>513330891
Americans can't afford to go to bars.
Alcohol from a store isn't much more expensive than it was a pre-COVID. I'm having a beer right now.
But this is taking the edge off and relaxing to some music. Not the same as going out socializing.
Americans don't want to pay $8.00 + tip for a beer at a bar. Certainly not as a regular thing.
Toss in the #metoo movement and everyone recording everything to post online, guys don't want to be caught fumbling any kind of approach with women.
Millennials are old enough now they're starting to reduce alcohol consumption because the hangovers are lasting longer and it's harder to keep the weight off.
Simultaneously, a good chunk of gen-Z never got to experience bars pre-COVID. They never had a chance to even get into the habit.
Also, hookup culture has moved away from the bars. Younger people seem like they're hooking up via apps, discord channels, etc etc. The biggest allure of bars was meeting someone to hook up with or date. Now they're all basically getting to know each other online, then just meeting up for whatever.

>>513330705 (OP)
It's also dropping in Europe though.
It has more to do with the fact that Zoomers don't have friends and don't go out as often as older generations.

>>513331252
YES!!!!!!!!
Been saying this for a while.
Boomers rugged the younger generations on bar culture.
You basically have to live in a city to reliably go out drinking once you're beyond the whole "early 20's go out as a group and one person DD's" phase. You can't be a regular at the bars solo unless you can walk or take cheap public transit to one.
But for boomers, DUIs were less socially frowned upon and legally a slap on the wrist. Today they ruin your life.
That's why there are so many random bars out in the middle of nowhere, and why boomers felt there was no downside to living in a suburb. Boomers used to think nothing of driving to and from bars whenever they wanted to go out drinking. Even millennials did this to some extent in the 2000's.
But now, you basically can't go out unless you're walking distance. Which is the root of the "muh walkable cities" that pol always gripes about. People want a third place, they want to be able to go out and socialize.
I'm not saying you should drink and drive. But boomers had it where a DUI was like a speeding ticket and cops only pulled them over if they were clearly a problem. Now cops deliberately seek it out and getting caught means $10k out of your pocket plus probably losing your job, and not being able to leave your house without help for the better part of a year.

>>513332614
Been wondering about this desu. It seemed like beer culture was at an ATH. Then suddenly there's nothing available except the turbo-local shit micro breweries and like five or ten decent craft beers, but they're not as good as I remember.

I have had at least 2 24oz tallboys for the last 10 years every night after a hard days work. I used to have 6packs of 7% abv IPA’s but it had me growing tits. The kicker is that 10 years ago that 6 pack was $9 and now it costs me the same amount for 2 tallboys of PBR. Fucking insane, but oh well. I have bloodwork done every year and it always comes back healthy. I go to the gym 3x per week and spend weekends fishing and drinking on my boat. Some people are literally built different.
>t. 210lb 6’4” anglo living in Hawaii

>>513330705 (OP)
no one can afford anything anymore
guys don't admit it because they will be seen as losers, either won't get a girl or will embarrass his wife
and girls don't admit it too because they don't want to be seen inferior among her group
reality is, most people are broke now

>>513334495
Weed seems way worse than alcohol socially. I know so many smart people who turned into hermits that didn't do anything with their lives because they just get stoned nonstop.
Alcohol is higher volatility - losing your shit when the booze gets bad can mean burning your relationships, ruining your life. But generally people drinking are extroverted and making social connections, getting laid, developing relationships, going out and meeting people in general.

>>513331003
I had a friend like that in high school.

>>513336830
Even if you don't party in HS, you party in college. Drinking and partying is probably the main driver of kids wanting to go to college out of high school. So it becomes normalized and a big part of their social life.
For those not going to school, more people are never going to be thrusted into that kind of environment.

>>513337462
It's basically this. Bars are too expensive to go to regularly now for most people.
Booze at home is still affordable, but the appeal of drinking for most people is going out.

>>513330705 (OP)
Nightclub culture is rapidly dying, and bar activities in the US are dropping by substantial amounts. Without incentives like free drinks or perks for repeat customers, plenty of people just stopped going. Since you can't easily hook up with the first drunk 6/10 you meet at a bar because everybody's guard is up thanks to #MeToo, as well as the fact that every single Cold Approach is received as "Creepy" now for people under the age of 40, and also the fact that dating apps have ultimately massacred any form of romantic/sexual interaction that doesn't get filtered explicitly through a dating app, you have a dramatic decrease in men going to any of these environments. Lack of men in these spaces means lack of people buying drinks for strangers to grab their interest, and instead only drinking for themselves and within their own interest range. All of these spaces normally relied on constant parties and big events to fill the space and keep drinks flying off the shelves, but since people aren't filling these spaces every weekend like they used to, the bottles are lasting on the shelves much longer than they used to, which is shown to all adjacent industry elements as "Lower Consumption".

It's really all tied to Tinder, Bumble, and all of these shitty dating apps. Until they're all wiped out, you're going to see these cascading effects routinely getting worse in countless industries ad nauseam.

Young people do not consume whatsoever because they didn't grew up with Hollywood and TV ads so they don't have any myths about alcohol in their minds, they drink once, feel like shit and move on for life.

>>513331003
Must be nice to not start drinking at 13

>>513343473
>>513343747
i agree about the prices, but only half agree on the dui/dd scenario. they do ruin your life nowadays, but if you are responsible dui's are always the way too drunk to drive guy's problem. im the DD usually, but i can pound my brews and still be trusted because i dont get wasted.

the whole people on their phones and will record you fumbling your icebreaker/pick-up line thing is a non worry or red herring, in my experience. maybe it depends on the place, but i live between urban and suburban, a few rural bar settings, nobody records things just to ruin you on tiktok.

>>513331003
first bacardi bottle bought at local paki with friends aged at 9 to 11 lmao
I am a zoomer tho I barely drink one glass a week now

>>513330705 (OP)
No, Americans are doing drugs instead, 80% of opioid users are Americans.

>>513334996
i know you can escape the shakes. dont relapse, i hate being sober too, but hurting yourself further is a non-starter.
if we were near each other id bond with you bro. some day you will be able to have a few again in social situations, dont believe the people that say "oh well, you can never go back to drinking at all, youll just fall right back in"
if you know what youre up against (miserable alcoholism again), you wont be easy prey for the substance.
>t. used to destroy myself, and not just with alcohol

>>513344535
the metoo shit is overblown.
if you get rejected, just move on, and nobody thinks twice about it.
im serious, dont buy into the propaganda that your life will be ruined for trying.

>>513330705 (OP)
Good

>>513331113
>There was a whole generational movement
no there wasnt you faggot. Maybe in your delusional mind. We were getting plastered and clapping cheeks. I still am- but now Zoomer QT cheeks. All over the world too, mind you. I'm going to have a seltzer right now to spite you

Alcohol isn't super expensive unless you're getting it from a bar. Alcohol consumption is low because zoomers are less interested in drinking in the first place.

>>513345434
this.
the NA stuff and the craze surrounding it is more likely to be a thing because X'ers kept getting dui's.
millennials still drink normally, from what ive seen.

>>513330705 (OP)
Sucks that people are broke but it's good they were forced to cut out alcohol. Shit is poison. But rather than financial restrictions, it is bigger than that. Zooms saw the damage and how bloated previous generations of alcoholics became. How broken and pathethic they are. Said whatever that is, no thanks. This is addition by subtraction. Unfortunately socializing, flirting, dating and monogamous relationships are down across the board. Other byproducts of these current times.

>>513331113
>literal NA micro brews became a thing.
why would somebody want to drink that nasty shit without the fun of being drunk?

>>513330705 (OP)
Beer made with hops is one of the things that turned boomer men into over emotional man babies due to the potent levels of phytoestrogens. Real men drink hard liquor.

any alcohol bros tried just straight up food grade ethanol in water or soda?

if i get drunk, i want to just add that shit like its a supplement to what i already drink like a coffee

>>513344883
you might not feel wasted but you can still blow way above legal. when I used to drink I took a little breathalyzer with me and I would almost always feel just fine even when blowing nearly double the limit. not a problem in my area where cops barely exist but if you live in a state with shit like checkpoints or few backroads to avoid cops, I wouldn't chance it
>>513345154
depends entirely on where you live

>>513347000
in my experience, three things: dui, pregnancy, or alcoholism.
ive never had any NA stuff, so i cant say why they want to continue after the first time, but i assume theyd be awful, flavor wise.

Getting an STD was what got me to quit drinking.

>>513330705 (OP)
i am poor, if i could afford alchihaul, i would.
being a poor neet is pain, pain is pan, pan is bread.

>>513347577
fair enough about the tolerance masking your actual BAV.
im near san fran, ca. and almost never see cops. maybe im just lucky, but i never get wasted anymore anyways, so im probably gonna be okay.
i bought a chink brand breathalyzer off of amazon one time, but it wasnt very reliable. maybe i should get a good one and try to test myself again once i arrive back at home from a bar night.
is the metoo stuff really heavy where you are? ill take a region, if you dont want to dox yourself entirely.

>>513334830
>I used to work with dead people a lot, I could smell that smell down to their bones, even inside their bones. Down in their cancellous and marrow.

the fuck are you talking about

>>513337824
cap, alchohol only destroys that which you haven't strengthened.

dead braincells?
that just means you never used your brain.
notice that most heavy drinkers have a big stomach, because all they ever do is eat, not think.

>>513330705 (OP)
People can afford alcohol, but zoomers don't have a drinking culture because booze fucks with their meds.

>>513347958
buy fruit juice and bread yeast and make prison wine, alcohol doesn't have to be bought from a shop. If you want to get big brained then do it with honey and cloves to make delicious mead.
>ancestors drank mead, good for health and medicinal with the right herbs
>bottle shop never stocks mead, only goy class beers, wines and spirits.
how odd.

>>513330705 (OP)
You literally have to drive to do anything in America. Zoomers were raised to be good children so they're more inclined to not rack up DUIs and murder innocent families through drunk driving like the boomers did.

>>513331113
>generational movement
>muh eye pee ayys muh micro brews
Maybe amongst faggots like you.
>>513347000
Fags like himn drink it because they're poser faggots trying to pose as cool bar people without actualyl being cook bar peoplez because they're sociopathic monsters who are fucking useless at anything other than putting on a mask and posing.

He gives me the same vibes reading his post as I got from those weird skinnyfat kids who would hang out posing with skateboards and scooters at the skatepark, but NEVER actually rode them around or did a single trick.

>>513348272
i bought fruit juice and have actual yeast for making wine
it didn't come out as i expected.

i'm thinking of buying actual fruits/berries/grapes and manually crushing and making it the old way.

>>513334996
This has worked for me.
The Freedom Model (Original!Main Text).pdf
https://files.catbox.moe/atkcjz.pdf

>>513348404
>broke neet
Good luck getting an attractive white woman to stomp your fruit barefoot for you.

>>513348553
good luck to any attractive white woman getting a taste of my wine once i'm done.

>>513331308
Tequila is fucking gross. Try rum.

>>513330705 (OP)
Nah. It's just zoomed and half of millennial don't want it.
I have 1 bottle of wine i the house and I've had it for over 6 months.
No plan to open it any time soon.

>>513330705 (OP)
Nobody's pointed out the real answer. It's because everyone's on Ozempic and Mounjaro and that shit stops you drinking immediately.

>>513344883
>>513347577
>you might not feel wasted but you can still blow way above legal
This.
Most of it's people who drink a lot drive all the time and nothing happens. But they've been driving for a long time where if they were tested, they'd be way over the limit. The limit is basically two drinks by modern alcohol standards. One and a half if you order something like a double IPA.
Average person with a DUI drives 80 times drunk before getting caught. No idea where that comes from but I heard it once and believe it.

Disclaimer: I have a DUI obviously from a few years ago. Rough patch after 2020 and still wasn't used to living in a place where I have to drive to drink outside of my house. 1st DUI is ~10k + a nightmare of bs and stays on your record affecting everything. People are massive hypocrites about it as well. If you get a DUI, suddenly half of everyone you know acts like you're not allowed to ever drink again. The other half quietly admit to you they have multiple of them, especially the older people.
The real killer is in my state you can get a DUI for any amount of alcohol, and a second one is a felony that comes with a minimum jail sentence. So get one and that's it. You're not allowed to drink anymore without everyone (even people you know who drive 10x as shitfaced as you did once) acts like you're a pariah.

The point is the entire dynamic of it is completely different from how boomers had it.

>>513348404
when you get a feel for the process you can chill the bottle to deactivate the yeast and retain some of the sweetness, or else it will keep eating the sugars until it kills itself at the abv it dies at or runs out of sugar. A workaround for this is to just mix in more fruit juice at the end after bottling, it also works as a good primer for carbonisation if that is how you like your drink, or else bring to a low heat before boiling temp to kill the yeast but retain the alcohol.
Your trad way is perfectly fine, it's just more work. Hope it turns out well for you! I'm currently working on my 30 liters of beer, I should be through it just in time for making some mead over the summer.

>>513330705 (OP)
It’s my fault. I just stopped drinking, sorry guys. I am into gacha now.

>>513349166
i'll try it out.

>>513347998
>is the metoo stuff really heavy where you are
I still live near portland oregon so yeah. a couple of weeks ago I was out huffing and puffing my way up a trail, and passed a couple of women who both had their phones out and pointed at me. like that's going to do any good in an area with fuckall reception. but that's the general vibe around these parts. there aren't many women around here worth approaching anyway. who knows, maybe if I move to colorado as I'm tentatively planning to, it'll be less shit, but I doubt it

>>513351432
ugh, thats fucking weird. women, and more broadly, people there are broken. i read some stuff about a concert in portland earlier today that had me shaking my head. totally anti-social people.
i cant wait for Jefferson to get incorporated into the union so we can all move there and escape the shitlibs.

>>513330705 (OP)
>3rd world country switches from alcohol and cocaine to cheap drug
Such many cases.

>>513330705 (OP)
>>513330705 (OP) (OP)
>3rd world country switches from alcohol and cocaine to cheap drug
Many such cases.

>>513330705 (OP)
Im 22 and I think I've consumed maybe 5 liters of alcohol. i just dont really have a need to drink it. If I want to forget something or whatever, I'll take my SSRIs

>>513330705 (OP)
>alcohol makes you fat
>zoomer girls learned from internet that alcohol makes you fat
>zoomer boys also learn alcohol ruins metabolism and kills muscle gain
>no one drinks anymore

>>513330705 (OP)
It's a problem with the american dollar not alcohol

>>513331022
It's engagement baiting. Most threads here are that and only that.

Alcohol has mostly lost it's favor I honestly think because millennials managed to be such incredible faggots about it that for zoomers not drinking is kind of like their version of rebellion. When youve grown up watching bearded retards with horn rimmed glasses talking about how "expressive" generic IPAs are as your exposure to alcohol it probably seems very gay

>>513330705 (OP)
Lately I've been drinking an entire 750ml bottle of vodka in one evening. I've been drinking heavily on and off for about 15 years. How fucked am I? I feel fine except for some short term memory issues.

>>513358785
Still in your 30's?
I'd definitely cut back soon, before you hit your 40's and your metabolism completely changes. Otherwise you might end up cutting 30 years off your life for the joy of longer black outs and 3 day hangovers.

>>513330891
>$20 for the 1.5L bottle.
That is impossible.
Also there is not alcohol bottle of 1.5 L

>>513348044
Talking about working with dead people and being able to smell the alcoholic smell all the way down to their rotted mushy cancellous, which is all yellow, fatty, and mushy from alcohol consumption. A healthy young person will have hard cancellous and good firm muscle (like a good steak), past 50 bone starts getting a bit mushy (especially in women, women’s bones are very fragile) and the muscle tends to be stringy (like over tenderized pork), but alcoholics don’t have healthy bones or muscle tissue regardless of age and it becomes more pronounced over time.

>>513361189
>Also there is not alcohol bottle of 1.5 L
It’s called a handle.

>>513330705 (OP)
Nah, alcohol and smoking just doesn't happen anymore. Zoomers don't have sex, don't drink, don't smoke. But ironically gym activity is through the roof.
>gym attendance and membership numbers have generally increased compared to pre-pandemic levels, with some studies indicating nearly double the usage. Gen Z is notably driving this trend, with a significant rise in gym visits and memberships
It's really quite interesting.

>>513355857
retard

>>513358785
See
>>513361390
>>513334830
Can’t even imagine what it’s doing to your brain.
Don’t get me wrong, I drink, but I limit it to 2 beers a day max and maintain a low tolerance due to physical fitness and low bf%. You need to get in better shape dude.

>>513341413
Chickens shit in the crawlspace is NOT MY PROBLEM thats up to the landlord to deal with.
I've been using my hot water heater to degauss my garloids.

>>513361416
Those are 1.75 L
A real alcoholic would know that.

>>513358785
You're just a dead man walking. Enjoy your strokes dumb shit.

>>513361539
Ironically my father drank like that for about 20 years, quit one day, and is still extremely healthy.
I don’t know why but some people can just handle it. Not me, I literally get respiratory infections if I drink too much.

>>513361642
>>513361539
My ancestors are mostly Irish.

>>513361805
Ok, and I’m my father’s son and I can’t handle that. Just because your ancestors may have doesn’t mean you can.
You should stop because your brain is short circuiting and your muscle tissue is tenderized to the point of weakness.

>>513361925
You're right, thanks man. I don't need the liquid Jew.

>>513361512
Sure, but the smell of shit and then dead chickens and then rats WILL BE YOUR PROBLEM.
I look forward to reading about it.
Kek

>>513361519
>blended and packaged in Sierra Leone

What kind of retard drinks nigger booze

>>513343473
>Americans don't want to pay $8.00 + tip for a beer at a bar. Certainly not as a regular thing.
This. GF has complained for a month or more that
>we don't go out as much
Lady, every time we go out to the bars it costs me $100+tip. AND I have to drive us home. So, despite me being an introvert, I have to be uncomfortable and overstimulated the entire night beyond guarding your drink and watching your back the whole time. I have to stay sober enough to get us both home safely in spite of increased violent crime due to "immigration". Literally the last time we went downtown there was a shooting no more than a block from us that resulted in fatality. Usual suspects of course. Goddamnit. I never used to be racist by I fucking hate Chicago nigs. At least back in the day the Mafia came up to my town to lay low and not cause trouble.

Only stupid goyim would buy what they can easily make as home.

>>513330705 (OP)
Because science has proved that it's bad for you. You don't have hundreds of religions guessing (most saying that it's good btw puritans were a historically recent phenomenon)

>>513331456
>many social places shut down and never came back
This. Lost my business because of COVID lockdowns. A business that relied on social interaction. Almost made it through it all but too little too late. Rampant fraud, regional/national corps taking in millions in PPE, ended us. If I had 6 more months I would still be in business and thriving. Fuck the plandemic.

>>513362727
The Bible says multiple times in both old and new testament not to be drunk with wine. It's not a new concept by any means.

>>513331552
This is true. To an extent. Before "modern days" if you wanted to know who your real friends were you gave up drinking. Now zoomers and early Gen A have realized that only degenerates and preds rely on booze culture to fuel their own self esteem.
>if you don't drink and you still have a solid network of friends then they're true friends
>if you quit drinking and none of your friends want to hang out with you then they're not true friends
That's as basic as it goes.

>>513363194
The bible says many times to drink. And there are plenty of religions where people drink. Any amount of alcohol is harmful, not just getting drunk.

>>513331003
First and last time I ever got sloshed was when I was 19. Passed out on a staircase, friend dragged me onto an air mattress. That was in 2010, I never got close to that wasted ever again.

>>513362676
>Only stupid goyim would buy what they can easily make as home.
This

>>513330705 (OP)
It doesn't mean the economy doesn't blow but not my problem and can't be me. For starters I don't routinely buy alcohol at all. I also
>don't have rotten crotch fruit dragging me down
>never buy anything on credit
>didn't go to (((COLLEGE))) and thus owe nothing on that
>don't drive, so none of the expenses based on that
>don't rent anymore, I own my house in full; no mortgage
>don't buy software or entertainment; no goyflix or any streaming services... not that I watch new content anyway, but certainly won't pay for it if I do
>live in a small/cheap city in the middle of nowhere
>pretty much never go out to eat or DoorDash (ISHYGDDT), preferring to cook or otherwise buy cheap produce/snacks
>haven't gotten married (yet) so I'm not alimony-raped
I seem to have avoided every Jewish trap. Neat. I just sock away every dollar from my fairly easy job and I'm fairly entertained. It'll be a long time til they fuck up things long enough to affect me. If you're the opposite of 2 or more of the above and aren't middle-high class or better; sorry, you're fucked and it'll only get worse. It sucks that you have to be a freak to live now but that's the cage they've built.

>Not making your own
So easy, so cheap, don't understand why more people don't do it.

>>513361519
I haven’t gotten once since college and that was 20 years ago.
I don’t drink anymore because it’s retarded and I have kids now.
Nobody needs frank the tank coming out.

>>513334516
Magnesium deficiency causes the shaking and is caused by alcohol consumption. Take a magnesium tab with every meal until you start having watery shits and you will get better.
I could drink a half a handle a night and not get hung over thanks to that trick.

Nobody can afford groceries and housing, what makes you think they can afford alcohol? Trump the pedophile rapist owes everyone a $5000 DOGE cheque. There's a literal bounty on his head and nobody's doing shit. Everyone's just waiting for scraps from a pedophile rapist instead of seizing the means of production and the banks.